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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Demon Fish) - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Demon Fish)De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Demon Fish)

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Reviews: 40
Hads: 53
rAvg: 3.61
pDev: 17.73%
Wants: 4
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Todd on 03-01-2005

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Photo of rmolledo
4.2/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

*aged bottle*

A: poured into an appropriate glass. nice hazy straw colored with a small white head. beautiful lacing.

S: spicy and fruity. malt and cheese like hop aroma.

T: malty, musty, fruity and phenolic. not as sour as I anticipated (this is my first wild ale). I get a candy sugar flavor in there somewhere. pretty tasty all in all. very dry finish.

MF: moderately high carbonation with a crisp dry finish.

D: I give this a great drinkability because I just about lost it when I read this was 9%. I was thinking like 4 or something. Very good strong sour ale. (570 characters)

Photo of kbutler1
1.84/5  rDev -49%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Bottle. Pours a straw yellow/gold with a 1-2 finger head. Aroma is more funk than sour with notes of fruit. Has a belgian smell to it. The taste is funk, alcohol, spice, then funk again. Slight bitterness to it. Not as crisp and dry as the style should be IMO. Too much alcohol taste and not even balance here. Mouthfeel is light/medium. Not as carbonated as the style I think should be. Maybe with time this would even out. (424 characters)

Photo of joe1510
4/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml

This was sent my way recently as an extra courtesy of the generous OldStyleCubFan, he also has good taste in baseball, thanks Todd! Demon Fish sports a tarnished copper body but takes on a straw golden appearance when backlit. There's a decent amount of haziness but this bottle just got in my possession a couple days ago so it's to be expected. The perfectly white head grew to two fingers easily and crackled down to a cap that looks like mold with clumps here and skimming there. Thin sheet lacing gets left behind after each drink.

Right off the bat there's a quick hit of diaper funkiness but it settles into pig farm, which really both smell similar now that I think about it. Musty attic plays a big role in the aroma as well. Cereal graininess is way, way in back if I dig deep enough. A touch of decomposing fruit makes its presence known too but the diaper/farm funkiness steals the show. This beer changes amazingly with each swirl of the glass, each and every time it's funky though.

The flavor takes a detour from the path the nose led me down. There's a quick hit of the aforementioned funk but it fades as nice notes of lemon and wildflower take hold. The wildflower is jammed in here by the fistful with that dusty, summer field quality I so thoroughly enjoy. There's a touch of maltiness on the finish that's somewhere in between cereal graininess and light caramel. This one drinks pretty easy. I thought it might be more of a chore with all the funk in the nose.

De Proef nailed the mouthfeel on this beer. It has that great Belgian airy quality that creates a light, frothy feel to the beer. Actually as this sits a minute the mouthfeel dies down upfront but the rest remains frothy. The finish is slightly dry with a touch of bitterness.

The mouthfeel really boosts the drinkability of this beer with the light airiness and although the funk would usually make me drink a little slower the quickly moving lemon adds some refreshment.

Demon Fish is another good brew in the Flemish Primitive series. The guys at De Proef really know how to make a good beer when they put their minds to it. This one is certainly worth a shot if you see it on the shelves. Thanks for the bottle, Todd! (2,216 characters)

Photo of jampics2
2.98/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle @ Buckeye Sour Tasting 2009. Wasn't a sour at all, but one of the many nice wild ales that were available. Overall, my least favorite of the 3 we tried - the Surly Bird, Pinhead, and this - the Demon Fish. Subtle differences added up and the Surly Bird was the best of the bunch!

A = Straw colored, nice amount of carbonation.

S = Smells like light malt and a serious case of the funks. Musty, horsehair, and a bit of stale hops.

T = Bretty and bold, but doesn't come together as well as the Surly Bird or even the Pinhead. A citrus taste up front then slammed by brett. A break from the funk yeilds a clean cereal grain taste, but it is dominated by some funky hangings-on.

M = Not good but not bad. Seemed perhaps a bit light in visco. for the style.

D = Suffers from the fact that it's not very interesting. Wouldn't want another, though I'm happy to have tried it (and only paid for a 4oz sample pour). (918 characters)

Photo of jjanega08
3.21/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A= pours a hazy straw color with a nice creamy frothy two finger head. Great retention and lacing on it.
S= a little lemon and orange citrus to it with small amount of funk and a tickly of sour.
T= interesting boozy, yeasty, fruity sort of taste. Not sour at all. Tastes like slightly spoiled oranges and funkyness. Interesting indeed.
M= a little dry finish and smooth.
D= average. Quite funky and fruity. Not my fav and I will prolly not have it again. (454 characters)

Photo of popery
3.93/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bring on the funk. This beer has more funk than it knows what to do with. On top of that, it's sweetly funky, like a horse pooped in a glass of lemonade, and I mean that in the best possible way. Of course, dung in lemonade can only be so good, but I digress.

I like a good funky beer. I've been slowly stockpiling Avery 15, my previous holder of the funk crown. I wouldn't say that Demon Fish necessarily tops the Avery in pure funk, but it is more difficult to drink due to the funk. I got through about two thirds of the bottle and had to call it quits. My stomach was fomenting a mutiny. I'd bump down the drinkability further, but I don't think that de Proef' even expects anyone to finish a 750ml solo. To be fair, I attempted to share the bottle with a few other people. Only one out of three soldiered through their initial pour.

The flavor is sweet apples and lemons. There is some hop character in there, but it certainly wasn't at the forefront of my mind while I was drinking. The beer brings little tartness, so look elsewhere pucker-fiends. The feel was fairly smooth. I'd really like to give this beer a higher score for sheer audacity and funk, but I need to leave some room for other de Proef' offerings because I'm confident that I'll need it. (1,264 characters)

Photo of chiral3
3.62/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I was pleasantly surprised by this beer. The bottle I obtained had no date, but the label was an image of some evil anthropomorphized bird with what appears to be another bird's carcass in the lower left.

Poured a dense straw-colored hue with a nice white head (maybe a finger's worth). Viscous enough that the floc and chunk remained suspended for the most part.

Farm, albeit dry farm and not wet. Horse. In my opinion it was not too sour. Rather, it impressed me as a solid Trippel that used a different yeast. The yeast was both at the forward and backward of the swallow; bookends containing a bright and clean malt. Again, solid beer. (641 characters)

Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.21/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle sampled on 09/26/08 at Night of the Funk (labeled as Reinaaert). Pours a cloudy gold with a white head. Aroma of yeast, citrus, and funk. Flavor is somewhat indescript. Some funky melon, milk cheese, and other sweet fruits. Decent beer.
6/4/6/4/14 (3.4/5) (262 characters)

Photo of magictrokini
2.52/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Reinart Flemish Wild Ale in bottle. Aroma and appearance are good. Nice golden pour with good carbonation and a nice head. A sweet nose with a hint of sourness. Starts off like a slightly bitter tripel, good sweetness, some spice, with a good malt flavor. Then it turned to ass in my mouth. Vomit-like sourness destroyed this beer for me. I like Flemish sours, but this was unbearable. Maybe the bottle needed more aging. (421 characters)

Photo of beerthulhu
4.32/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Huge chunks of floaties dance against a beautiful hazy orange colored body topped off with a big rocky white head.

S: a big sour lemony/banana aroma with some sour fruitiness, oranges, and some barnyard funk (hay).

T: The initial flavor yielded sour tart oranges, ending cleanly and quickly. There is a sour fruitiness of apples and oranges with a barnyard funkiness from the brett. There were noticeable medicinal alcohol notes as well some wild flower spicings. The brett truly takes center stage here flavor wise and finishes with a light acidity.

M: medium, fizzy carbonation with a sour bitterness of oranges and strong alcohol fusels on the back of the tongue.

D: Very nice experience and not for the faint of heart or for those unfamiliar to style. It is the incredible wild yeast strain (brett) that will keep you coming back for more alluring you for the next sip. Intriguing to say the least. (913 characters)

Photo of tai4ji2x
3.24/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

750ml, no discernible date or batch labeling. poured into tulip.

very clear, golden straw color. lots of head that stays around, becomes rocky. great lacing.

FUNKY barn aroma and horse blanket plus fresh, wet hay. frankly, i've NEVER more appropriately used the words "funky", "barn" and "farmhouse" to describe the aroma. it really got to the point where i almost smelled, well... manure!! not necessarily in an entirely bad way... but i'm saying this to give you a sense of just HOW strongly "on-the-farm" the aroma gets here... coupled with the phenolic note, plus only hints of yeast and dough, this is NOT for the novice drinker!

taste has malty note behind all the barnyard. champagne fruitiness peeks in for a moment, but soon returns to the stinky barn, wet old horse blanket, rotten apples, plus more phenols, bordering on medicinal. moderate to gentle bitterness with hay-like character to the hops.

not too thin, some smoothness. lively but gentle carbonation.

whoa... this is too much for me, i think. hard for me to really finish it. actually had to mentally block out all the funky farm smells and flavors in order to even pick out any other nuances - a difficult task.

also difficult to categorize for style. (1,229 characters)

Photo of JDV
2.63/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottle shared at tasting. Thanks!
Gold with a light white head. Smell is bright, funky, dusty and spiced yeast. Taste is somewhat bland, dusty and light funk. Almost numbing clove like effect on the mouth. Thin, and quite dry. Faint sweetness and lightly funky with not much flavor. Fizzy mouthfeel. (299 characters)

Photo of gregc
4/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a hazy orange with a 1 finger head. Smells very funky and malty. Aromas of honey, vinegar, barnyard funk, malty and some hops. Taste was almost the same, very funky, malty with some hops coming through in the end. The first one of this series i had and i was pleased with it. Looking forward to having the pig nun, spoon whacker, surly bird and rat rider. Also great artwork on the labels. (396 characters)

Photo of oelergud
3.91/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Corked and caged 1 pint 9.4oz heavy dark brown glass bottle. Medivial strange scene depicting fish and people.
Cloudy straw golden body with a slight orange tint. Huge rocky white head. Great retention and clumpy lace.
Odd yeasty scent. Slightly malty and alcoholic.
Malty yeast flavor. Very unusual and interesting, not like any other beer. Some sweet fruit and nutty bitter hops. The alcohol is much more apparent in the taste than in the smell. Hoppy aftertaste still with lots of yeast.
Medium body with slight coating and abit of residual sugars.
Good drinkability. A different kind of ale to be sure.

-Oelergud (617 characters)

Photo of rajendra82
3.92/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This bomber was picked up from the top shelf of Green's. The label was crazy as usual. The cork was synthetic, and therefore extracted easily. The beer looked quite hazy in the tulip, and the head was a good size. The smell was wilder than I remember the pinhead being. The taste was sweet-sour, spicy, and funky. The Saaz hops that were reportedly present seemed to have died down by the time I got this. The body was medium dense, and quite smooth. I preferred my last foray into this series when the sample was fresher. (522 characters)

Photo of ccrida
4.15/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my De Proef flute, Pig Nun is a brilliant gold with steady streamers and fairly large, rocky white head that leaves chunky foam. Served at cellar temp. I really dig the artwork on the label, as existential as the prof!

Smell is sweet, honey, fruity, dry and grainy, with a definite but not overwhelming tinge of wild ale/barnyard funk. I'm a sucker for floral sweetness, which we have here in spades...I was expecting more funk...

Taste is really pretty good, but more BSPA then wild ale, as there's not as much funk as the other version I've had from this series, the Pig Nun (granted it was two years older). According to Shelton Bros, this one has "50-55 IBU's, roasted malts, and lots of Saaz aroma hops". I don't get a lot of roast, but the punch of the Saaz with the malt sugars reminds me of an imperial pilsner. Comparing it to the Pig Nun I just had, the sweetness is more floral then fruity, although there's still a distinct fruitiness, tangerine, with a sharp, dry finish. Once again, the ABV is totally hidden, aside from some rubbery phenols it's pretty clean.

Mouthfeel is pretty crisp and dry, and fairy light for the strength.

Drinkability is pretty good, another tasty, light, well executed BSPA from De Proef, with just a hint of wildness to keep it interesting...cellar these bad boys and look forward to a real treat! (1,356 characters)

Photo of cjgator3
3.48/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Corked and caged 750ml bottle poured into a large tulip glass. Pours a murky brownish orange color with a nice creamy off-white head that possesses excellent retention and lacing. The aroma is sour with some fruity malts, spices, barnyard funk and yeast. The taste starts off with a nice smooth maltiness that quickly turns sour and finishes with horseblanket and a dose of earthy hops in the very dry finish. Overall, this is another great beer in the "De Proef" series, recommended. (484 characters)

Photo of rallison
4.1/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Purchased from Hi Times 6 months to a year ago, so it's had some time to age and come together.

A: Hazy golden color with a 2 finger head that leaves a fair bit of lacing.

S: Barnyard funk. Brett. Funky. Most people would probably hate the smell of this. But hey, once you get into sour beers...

T: Sour, but not that tart. Decent maltiness in the background. Still, wonderfully funky. Earthy. There is actually some balance from the sweetness here (maybe the 9% helps).

M: Low carbonation. No real alcohol bite. Moderate crispness on the end.

D: Very good.

Recommended. Not the best sour, but still one I definitely enjoyed drinking. Can't wait to try some more of this series (seeing as how this one is one of the lower rated of the series). (750 characters)

Photo of watchnerd
3.97/5  rDev +10%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Demon Fish, 750 ml bottle. Fruity aroma, hot much hopiness evident, but a bit sour, almost like a weak lambic. Needs to warm it up a bit to let it decant. Let it sit for a while if it seems think at first sip. Refreshing, family who don’t normally like beer enjoyed it. (270 characters)

Photo of Dukeofearl
3.7/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle purchased at Hi Time Wine Cellar in Costa Mesa, CA. in late 2007 (September?). Reviewed in January 2008.

This is my 3rd or 4th to pass my lips in this wonderful series from one of my favorite Belgian breweries.

Pours a bright yellow gold with a moderate white head, a steady stream of carbonation allows a thin cover to remain throughout the session. Top-ups bring a nice head back to the party.

Aroma is the wonderful tart/sour wet grass that is so common to the style- very lovely indeed.

Flavor is harsher and sharper than the aroma with a very hard-edged tartness at the end. A very dry ending.

Alcohol burn ending is harsher than I like- I think the earlier versions hid the alcohol better.

Overall, this is still a really good beer, but probably my least favorite of the series. (804 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.11/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a clear, yellow body with a small, unassuming white head.

Smell: Gah! Extremely funky doesn't even begin to describe it. It's like a huge hunk of Stilton wrapped in a horse blanket and smothered in rotten, zombified fruit husks and topped with a drizzle of high-quality honey.

Taste: Light breadiness with a large amount of melted blue cheese, who's flavor grows more and more as time goes on. Sharp, funky flavor like chowing down on a pair of swimming trunks forgotten in a car trunk for a couple weeks in the middle of summer, and though I'd never imagine myself saying this about a beer, here goes: it's painfully cheesy. Vague fruitiness, like molded melon rinds. There's a drying bitterness throughout, particularly on the spicy, sour finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.

Drinkability: These De Proef Flemish Primitive beers really put you to work, don't they? (905 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.31/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

"If it smells like funk it must be us
The funk, funk, funk, fat stinky stanky stuff"

--Black Eyed Peas

Ripe banana with a faint hint of orange peel. Every one of these Flemish Primitive Wild Ales has looked like a dream. Demon Fish is no exception. The alabaster crown is large, bubbly, rocky and is an exceptional lace maker. Thick sheets and chunks are beginning to stick with authority. It looks fabulous now and should look even better once the yeast at the bottom of the bottle is added.

The nose, sorry to say, isn't the usual Brett masterpiece. The classic barnyard, 'horse blanket' funkiness is mixed with something much less pleasant. Underarm sweat mixed with toe jam? I'm getting more and more used to it as I continue to sniff. What that says about me, I don't want to ponder.

Demon Fish is my least favorite beer in this series to date. I think it might have something to do with the malt bill, but I'm confused on that count. De Proef says that roasted malts are used. If so, then why is the beer no darker than medium yellow? I don't taste any roastedness, that's for sure. Gotta be a mistake.

Bitterness is present. Good hop flavor isn't. Man, I wish I knew what this beer contains that the others don't. Spices? Herbs? Some sort of renegade, demon yeast strain? A mutant type of bacteria? Whatever it is, I'm not a fan. I wish I could be more specific, but this sucker has me stumped. A rotten stump? It's somewhat woody, but no, not exactly. It's also much more phenolic (Band Aid-like) than I remember the others being. Rotten banana burps. Yummy.

The mouthfeel is light-medium and is appropriately carbonated. In other words, it's sparkly without being too fizzilicious. The bubbles, that were beginning fade at the end of my first glass, have been revived with a second pour.

So far... Surly Bird takes the gold, Pig Nun gets the silver, Spoon Whacker nabs the bronze and Demon Fish is left in the lurch. I'm all for oddness as long as it's delicious oddness. This one, though, sticks a fin over the line and can't be recommended. Stanky is right. (2,075 characters)

Photo of GClarkage
2.34/5  rDev -35.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

09/05/07- Purchased at Worden's in Missoula, MT.

Presentation- 750ml bottle, both caged and corked. No visable freshness info on the bottle.

Appearance- Somewhat murky orange-golden in color. Pours with a solid 3/4 inch creamy head and leaves behind decent patchwork lacing.

Smell- Odd sugary tropical rotten fruit nose. Very yeasty and a bit funky, but not really in a good way.

Taste- Tastes like someone fed me yeast covered rotten apricots and maybe some moldy papaya as well. Very sugary and somewhat foul tasting.

Mouthfeel- Soft lower carbonation level. Silky and lightly creamy, but the rancid taste really ruins it obviously.

Drinkability- Dumped this one after a few sips. My wife said it reminded her of rat poison. Not quite that bad, but either spoiled or just not my cup of tea. Have the spoon wacker at hand pretty soon to try. (848 characters)

Photo of Derek
4.1/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Hazy straw, white head, some retention, good lace.

S: Barn yard (straw, horse, earth) funk, cheesy, spice, slight sulfery mineral.

T: Phenolic spice, slight tropical fruit, hints of leather & straw, with a light tartness. Alcohol is well-hidden.

M: Light to moderate body is dry, moderate carbonation.

D: Great. It's like an Orval on steroids! (358 characters)

Photo of Sammy
2.98/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Horse turd aroma. Yellow body and big head with significant lace. Funky dimension of drinkable malted apple juice acid. Bold hop is there as well, but bitterness is not the prominent taste in my mouth, Smooth mouthfeel. I suggest strong meat dish. I survived Demon Fish T-shirt.
Beer unique review 2300. (304 characters)

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