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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

318 Ratings
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Ratings: 318
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 13.3%
Wants: 29
Gots: 25 | FT: 1
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004

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Photo of dcook11
5/5  rDev +27.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

A- Cranberry hue with ample carbonation and a gorgoues white head.

S- Apple, cranberry, cherry. Very juice like.

T- Cranberry and cherry dominant. Very pleasent.

M- Light bodied.

O- This is one of my favorite beers of all time. Perfection in a glass. This is a 5 for me. I was suprised though at the lack of sourness this beer had. Note: This cork is very difficult to get off!

Photo of BBeerL
4.85/5  rDev +24%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the most complete Flanders Red Ales I have had the pleasure of trying. In my experience arfter a bottle of some red ales my mouth is left a sour puckering mess. Not with this guy. It has a full rich body( for a flanders) to go with the dry sour taste. I truely loved this beer.

Photo of mj001jk
4.82/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy amber with reddish tones. Thick and creamy head of foam which persists, leaving an aromatic carpet of foam which jumps with citrus, cherries and bourbon. The hops cut the crisp maltiness with its subtle character and it is all freshness, very vibrant and joyful. I am really getting into the nose here...give me a minute or three...

Perfect carbonation and mouthfeel, a vibrant yet substantial character which slowly releases sweetness and dried fruit as it subsides. Dried apricot, sour cherries and ripe apples dominate the finish. The sourness accentuates but doesn't overpower, just like the champagne-like dryness; it is a tightrope act of finesse and balance, much appreciated by a novice to the world of sour beers. This one takes the cake for me.

I ended up pouring some into my 5gl batch of Kriek fermenting away in the bathroom. It is going to end up quite the potpourri.

Photo of twiggamortis420
4.79/5  rDev +22.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark copper color with a fine-bubbled, fluffy light tan head. Very good retention and lacing.

Smell is perfectly funky and wild with equal parts rotting wood and sour berry tartness. Raspberry puree with maybe a bit of blackberry and cherry notes. Not much malt or hops on the nose, but that is ok with me for this style. This beer smells delicious, a joy to sniff!

Mouth puckering sour tartness takes the lead by a slim margin over the brettomyces funk and cedar plank flavors. Some lighter berry notes come through with some strawberries and sour cherries. Earthy in it's own way with some of the caramely malt sweetness making an appearance as it warms a bit. Wonderful sour beer, one of my favorites.

Photo of DeanMoriarty
4.67/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 750ml corked bottle (first rubber cork i've ever seen in a beer) into an Allagash branded 40cl tulip.

A: Nice amber red, pours a decent head that sticks around for a few sips then dissipates leaving solid lacing from start to finish. Real small amount of sediment in the bottom of my glass.

S: Sweet vinegar with some cherry and wood in there too. I also get a little funky liquor and distinct pinot noir smell at the end that is real nice.

T: Dry and sweet, and that pinot smell reflects it's flavor as well - absolutely delicious! The sour comes through with some peppery woodiness that balances the overall flavor perfectly.

M: Silky smooth, good carbonation with small bubbles that roll across the palate nicely.

D: Real easy to drink. I wish I had bought two of these.

Photo of Risser09
4.67/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Great beer shared by Hopdog? at Phatz' sour beer tasting

Appearance: This ale pours a hazy brown and gold color with a tan head and copious amounts of lacing. Very nice for this style.

Smell: I must say that these aromas were unique for a flanders red ale. I picked up sweet corn, cotton candy, bubble gum and old raspberries. Brett is also noticable with its distinct sour funkiness.

Taste: Begins tart wth an obvious sour cherry flavor and follows with a raspberry/malt middle. Plenty of sugar and spice and everything nice. The finish is a blend of coconut and oak in a long, drawn out profile.

Mouthfeel: Carbonated lightly, apparent alcohol brings on a burn. This beer was creamy for a flanders red.

Drinkability: I found this beer to be nice and spicy. It left me with a good impression of flavor, sourness and overall drinkability. It hit a lot of bases to become a versatile beer for me. I would seek this out and purchase it.

Photo of sablephish
4.65/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had a recent session at Brouwers in Seattle, on my way to hop selection in Yakima . . .
I started with this bottle as a palate warmer upper (firing up the senses). I was extraordinarily impressed. I'd liken myself as to being a duchesse kind of guy, verses Rodenbach (both ends of the spectrum . . . sweet - - > sour. But this was perfectly in the middle, with extraordinary dark fruit notes in the aroma that were very sweet, and yet the good old brett flavour of sultry sourness in flavour. This was a wonderful pairing of aroma and flavour. Of course the mouthfeel was clean and crisp, a perfectly refreshing flemish red, no tnearly the mouthblasters that I'm used to.
A perfect paring with pears, dark blue cheese, and madjool dates, not all that particular order . . . if only brouwers would cater to my own selfish appetizing needs on the next run.

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.65/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, corked and caged, bought for $12.99 at Rozi's in Cleveland last week. For whatever reason I've never seen this on shelves before, surprising given there are already so many reviews. I grabbed it without a second thought, as De Proefbrouwerij makes quality wild ales.

This beer has a glorious appearance, reddish orange and clear with a slight chill haze, thick rocky poofs of off-white foam. This is the perfect Flanders Red visual. The aroma is really strong with brettanomyces, sharp and funky, leather and dark fruit like plums and cherries. Nice subtle malts, earthy and authentically Belgian.

This beer just doesn't disappoint by any measure. Damn, it tastes delicious and perfect. Makes you wonder why people rave over legitimately good American wild ales while never mentioning Belgian greats beyond Cantillon. Cherry/plum alcohol, nice sweet counterplay, the sour doesn't reach bracing levels but is rather well balanced by the sweet malt and sugar. Tart, refreshing, addictive. Soft body, silky-like with just enough carbonation, very good.

Photo of yemenmocha
4.65/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours somewhere between an iced tea brown and ruby red, depending on width of glass and the angle. Very appealing. Nose is thick and dollop-like, reminding me of an old-fashioned root beer float in childhood.

Nose is an explosion of ripe fruits such as apricot, green apples, honeydew, and canteloupe. There's a hint of yeastiness or fresh bread in there too.

On the palate the body is noticeably thick and creamy, with flavours of mixed fruits that challenge you for identification. Sometimes grape, sometimes black cherry, sometimes apple. Interesting thing is that the nose suggests one set of fruits, but oddly enough on the palate another set of fruits make an appearance.

Very easy drinking with a soft, medium length finish.

This Flemish Ale is a pleasant surprise.

Photo of mwilbur
4.6/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured from 750 mL bottle into tulip.
A: Pours a nice red with hint of brown around the edges. Cloudy with backlighting. Nice 1/2 inch white head with good retention and excellent sticky lacing (clings to the glass forever).
S: Perfectly balanced sweet and sour notes. Cherry, sour lemon, brettanomyces and other yeast.
T: Sweet cherry, sour lemon, fresh yeast, creamy milk, apple cider vinegar, soft oak, and other fruit notes. Again, perfectly balanced sweet and sour.
M: Soft and silky smooth upfront. Transitions to a sour bite which lingers and gradually diminishes.
D: Oh, sweet nectar of the gods. The definition of drinkability. Complex enough to keep your interest through the entire bottle and yet light enough (ABV 7%) to make it sessionable. Another simply wonderful brew from The Prof.

Photo of OStrungT
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

This beer pours a slightly cloudy brown color with a thick off white head. The head fades very slowly, leaving massive laces. After 30 minutes, whe head still remains.

This beer has a very pleasent aroma. It smells of cherries. It smells sweet and slightly tart. It has a slight spicy aroma also. A little citrus is present. It has a very slight earthy yeast aroma.

This beer is slightly sour, but surprizingly smooth. It has hints of cherries. It is very sweet, but not overbearing. Slight citrus flavor is detectable. It has a slight woody taste to it also.

This beer is very smooth. It leaves a sour cherry aftertaste. This beer is well carbonated.

I think this beer would make an excelent session beer. It is very easy to drink. I think I will have to go back and buy many more.

Photo of Phatz
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

I am not sure if it was hopdog, egajdzis or weeare138 who brought the Zoetzuur; they arrived together. Regardless, *huge* thanks.
This is actually not the typical Flanders Red, I love it is a bit more sour, which I love even more. The Lambic like sour nature with the wild yeasts and funk is a dream.

Appearance: poured out a beautiful dark caramel color with some golden copper highlights on the edges. Fantastic white foam head and very heavy lacing painting the Walls of my glass.

Smell: Sour apple. Apple cider. Applecider vinegar acidity, intense Brettanomyces sour funk, lactic, and fruity. An aged woodiness carries berries and spice and dark vinous flavors in through the nose. Simply irresistibly enticing.

Taste: The sour black cheery pucker and the big Brett flavor dominate the taste though a sweet red fruit juice and adequate malt profile balance a little bit. The lactic acidity keeps my cheeks stinging perfectly. the puck lasts a long time and the vanilla and wood lemon and cheery hang in my mouth ridiculously long after the swallow.

Mouthfeel: Very soft in the mouth with lively fine carbonation.

Drinkability: This one is not too sweet not too sour. It is a delicious easy drinking Red, for a sour fan. A bit unique, and a nice change of pace.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Photo of RBorsato
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Golden copperish red with a nice tan to light tannish brown head, nice active carbonation and some lace. Lightly sour black cherry fruity aromas with a nice touch of musty, earthy, malt character. Sour fruity dark cherry flavors dominate with a light funky Brett finish and a bit of mustiness. Medium-light bodied.

Nicely surprised with it's fruitiness and very light Brett character .. almost a Black Cherry Lambic but not quite as "sparkling".

Per bottle: 7% ABV

Per MJ notes: Crafted in 11-hectolitre batches exclusively for the Michael Jackson Rare Beer Club by the Andelot Proefbrouwerij of Lochristi, Belgium.

Malt: 2-Row Munich, Pilsner, and Cara malt
Hops: Tomahawk & East Kent Goldings
IBU’s: 21
Flavoring: Sweet-and-Sour Black Cherry Juice
Yeast: Mixed Fermentation of Saccharomyces & Brettanomyces. Lactobacillus is naturally produced, fermenting the sugars in the juice.
Original Gravity: 1072 (18 Plato)
Alcohol Volume: 8.5% ABV
Alcohol Weight: 6.7% ABV

(750 ml / 25.4 oz. tall straight brown champagne style bottle, corked, and caged)

Photo of klewis
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A: Pours a light red with a big foamy head. Lots of sustaining foam leaves a thick layer of lacing on the glass.

S: Lots of aromas in here - mostly cherry, but also oak, citrus and a touch of brett.

T: Not as harsh and tart as I expected on the first sip. In fact, the flavor is quite smooth. Much like the smell with a strong fruity character. Mild but prominent flavors of oak and wild yeast funk add some depth.

M: Medium-bodied with moderate carbonation. A mild sourness lingers on the palate for a while.

D: Amazingly easy to drink while still maintaining style-approriate characteristics. The best flemish ale I've had yet.

Photo of marburg
4.57/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

My wife and I picked apples a few weeks ago, and being late in the season with so much rain, the apples were particularly good. Some of the varieties were so deep in color they were a regal burgandy that bordered on pushing into indigo. The apples knocked from the branches were turning this sickly shade of brown. And that's *exactly* the color of this beer -- a deeply muddied red.

Tart, chopped Michigan cherries and soggy sweet wood in the nose. Subtle hints of chocolate and an obvious sour-ish "brettanomyces" kick.

The flavors begin with a certain sweetness -- fruity, plum-like, and a bit thin up front. A drier sourness encompasses the mid-palate, which is efficiently swept away by a lasting finish driven by the flavor of chomped leaves and pine needles. Remarkably farmhouse-like in its narrowly focused bitterness.

A well-rounded, all-encompassing Flemish ale. While in a natural sort of spirit, it's a far cry from the lactic nature of even Rodenbach Grand Cru and an even further stretch to compare this to its sweetened cousins from other brewers. The more restrained acidity is a bit disappointing to me personally, but this is an intriguing beer that's well worth wading through -- it really grew on me through the end of the bottle. I've got a few more bottles, so we'll see what I think of it over time. But for now, chalk this up as a fun, somewhat unconventional success.

Photo of yelterdow
4.53/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From the vaults of the Rare Beer Tour compliments of Michael Jackson. Although this beer is classified in the "retired" category, there are still a few of these around as of December 2005.

I'm tasting this on my 35th birthday, and I look forward to reviewing it.

Served in a Fin Du Monde Belgian tasting tulip at just over fridge temperature. The bottle reads 7% alcohol, not 8.5% as this page suggests.

Appearance- A picture perfect display of color and structure. The beer pours a fantastically clear Flemish red with brown highlights, and the four finger crown billows even better than Rodenbach... and that's saying something. The lacing is sporadic, but it's still clingy and persistent.

Smell- Wonderfully fragrant, and nose-puckeringly good. This pushes the envelope almost to the Lambic style, with a bold farmy funkiness and horseblanket character that I love so much. As the beer approaches cellar temperature, an underlying sweetness integrates with the sour horsey notes. Fantastic.

Taste- Outstanding delivery of sour cherries, barnyard funk, and overall lip-smacking goodness that rivals Rodenbach Classic... again, the difference is the more prominent notes of horseblanket. Lambic lovers, eat your heart out... if you can find this, buy it.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Sharp but rolling in the mouth, the texture is of the finest carbonation and boosts the sweet and sour character of the beer. Even with the beefed up ABV (7% vs. Rodenbach's 5.1%), this drinks so easy and quenches thirst better than almost anything I've ever had. A most enjoyable and worthwhile beer.

P.S. I suggest taking care not to disturb the yeast sediment at the bottom of the bottle, as I have swirled in the last 2 oz. at the end. Much better without the sludge.

Photo of TheLevi4000
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of Dukeofearl
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle purchased at LaBodega in Riverside, CA for $9.99. I hadn't heard of this beer before I bought it, but when I saw the style, I knew I had to have at least one. FYI, the BA header says this is 8.5% ABV; the bottle says 7%.

Pours a flat reddish brown, quite transparent, with an off-white bubbly head that sits very nicely in my St. Bernardus chalice. Quite attractive.

Aroma- boy, this is why I broadened my beer horizons. Woody, sour cherry, organic aromas, perhaps a touch of lemon citrus zest, but also a sweet hint too. This is a wonderful smell.

Flavor- the first sip was quite a shock. I was prepared for this Duchesse-like sweet-sour dance, but at first, it just rushed down my throat in a tart pucker. My initial reaction was not good. But after a few swallows, the fruitiness really opens up, as partly ripened raspberries fight with black cherries and sour citrus. This is good stuff.

My one reservation about this is that the sourness outweighs the sweetness so it's not as balanced as I would like. But this is really a minor quibble. I really like this beer. (Of course the best part is watching my finacee pucker up after she tried it!).

Highly drinkable. Creaminess in the mouthfeel keeps it from being overpowering. Recommended.

Photo of MrJolly
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of smakawhat
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a tulip glass.

Deep chili/chipotle pepper red body, not much clarity but you can see just a tad bit of faint carbonation rising. Head is creamy and filled with sheets of a whipped tan light creme like lacing. Three to two fingers tall easily, leaves a thin creamy puck also.

Oh man is this bouquet gorgeous. Sweet and sour cherries. This smells like it comes from a barrel (it doesn't I think), with round vanilla notes and soft creamy milk. Small hints of red hot cinnamon. Just wonderful stuff nearly perfect and gorgeous.

Palate definitely hits at lighter body, but perfectly fine with the malt and flavors to come. First sip fills with Kriek like sweet juiced cherries, giving away to a sour softness. Faint caramel, and a big dry finish. Mineral aftertaste that really lingers, with a light body, almost dry white wine crisp, but not quite brut champagne territory. Sweet and sour balances of cherries, and some milk sweetness, with thick malt body of vanilla sort of missing hinted on the nose.

Overall though it's like a kriek and standard Flanders red ale mixed into one, absolutely great beer love it.

Photo of granger10
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Deep ruby, woody, garnet color with a large brilliant white head which unfortunately soon fades to nothing but a skim layer atop the liquid. Lots of spotty lacing around the glass.

Vinous aromas abound. Light cherry skins along with a slightly stinging acidity. Honey and farmhouse funk come side by side.

Taste is dominated by the Belgian yeasty flavors. Some sweeter cream notes are present. The acidity is notes but not stinging whatsoever. I think the creaminess is lining my palate and holding back the stinging sensation. Odd but I like it. There's also notes of tart cherry, light wood flavors, and some sweeter purple grapes.

Mouthfeel is great to me. I know this isn't as funky as some of the other Flanders Red beers but that's ok. The creamy sweet flavors match up excellent with the Belgian funk. Fairly full bodied with moderate carbonation. It all works nicely.

Alcohol is really inperceptible. This is an easy drinker yet so complex and flavorful that I can't drink it too fast and it continually intrigues me. Definitely get this and try it if you can.

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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
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