Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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88
very good

309 Ratings
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Ratings: 309
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 13.55%
Wants: 27
Gots: 23 | FT: 1
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De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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Photo of AmitC
4/5  rDev +2.3%

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4/5  rDev +2.3%

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4/5  rDev +2.3%

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4/5  rDev +2.3%

Photo of Monkeyknife
3.99/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle a deep mahogany color with one finger of rich tan head. Sheets of sticky lacing left behind.

Aroma of canned cherries and sweet caramel malts.

The taste of canned cherries upfront followed by rich caramel malts and light vinegar notes.

Medium bodied and smooth with a lighter carbonation.

A solid Flanders Red from De Proef Brouwerij.

Photo of TheNapkin
3.98/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Amber, almost a light soda color. Very thin head, visible effervescence, dark sedimentation that sifts to the bottom of the glass.

S: Sour raspberries, whiffs of cider, sniff of red grapes. Sort of like Lindemann Framboise's lighter brother (smell is not nearly as intensely jammy as Lindemann's Framboise). Slightly metallic, coppery smell if you're not careful and pour too big a head.

T: Same as the smell, but just a notch sweeter. It should be noted that even though the beer tastes sour, vaguely lambic-like, and has strong raspberry notes, it doesn't deliver the overwhelming sugar bomb that certain fruit-fortified lambics do. This beer serves as a nice substitute for those who find these lambics thick, cloying and hardly satisfying when you want a beer that tastes like a beer (it's also cheaper than a lot of lambics too; bargain, Win!). If you want a beer masquerading as a soda, reach for a Lindemann's; if you want a beer that tastes like a beer, has hints of fruit, and moderate sourness, get this De Proef. It has a nice dryness on the front of the tongue and the back and would pair nicely with foods you'd normally drink a dry white wine with.

M: Light and bubbly on the tongue. A real treat.

D: In terms of De Proef beers, the funk element here is hardly detectable, which makes the beer very drinkable. Good balance of sourness and the malts.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.98/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a murky brown with a 3 inch foamy beige head that settles to a craggy cap on top of the beer. A foamy latticework of lace coats the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt/grain, earthy yeast, funk, and some sour cherry aromas. Taste is of sour cherry and mild Brett funk up front with some earthy grain flavors on the finish. This beer lives up to its name and is indeed sweet and sour at the same time. There is a lower level of carbonation with only a slight crispness. Overall, this is a good beer that is quite tasty and easy to drink.

Photo of Donnie2112
3.98/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

poured into a Corsendonk glass

brownish red, offwhite puffy head, solid retention, solid lacing

Aromas of vinegar, very much that wild smell. This beer has certainly seen some brettanomyces

The flavors are largely vinegar without a lot else going on, they aren't overpowering so though and there are just little hints of wheat and cherry

Not a whole lot of malt and body for a beer of this alcohol content, it's very nice though, poppy carbonation and a good solid feel to it.

I could see this being a very drinkable Flanders red, it doesn't insist upon itself the way some do, but it's the real deal, lots of sourness and interesting undertones, could see this becoming a regular drinker.

Photo of Pencible
3.98/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured a cloudy reddish mahogany with fluffy light tan head.
S: It smelled like rich sour cherry with some vinegar and oak, and a little metallic and candi sugar.
T: It tasted like smooth sweet cherry and brown sugar, with earthy oak and tart vinegar and a bit of candi sugar. It had a mellow sweet and sour aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. Too thin.
D: This was a nice Flanders red. The sourness was very balanced with sweetness. The body was a bit weak, but there was no alcohol noticeable, so it was very easy to drink. Probably best fresh, because the cherry character will likely fade with age. Recommended.

Photo of emerge077
3.95/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Map Room...

A hazy, ruddy red tone, with off-white foam that has a lively sizzle. Lacing spiderwebs cling to the glass for the duration. Active carbonation gives the sense that this ale is completely alive, and the wild whiff of Brett confirms this.

Horsey Brett aroma slightly magnifies toward the end of the glass. It's not heavy or unpleasant, but musky and woody. Berry and iron notes figure in to a lesser extent.

Tartness is there but it's at a low level. Not as one-dimensional sweet/sour as some other Flanders Reds can be. Sour twang is felt briefly at the back of the mouth, and gets the salivary glands working. It's not quite lactic, but certainly wild, like a yogurt culture. Metallic iron/copper note appears in the first few sips, but thankfully subsides. Overall it's fairly bright, with the prerequisite tartness, and vague sweet upturn. What's unique about it is the showcase of wild yeast/bacteria, which feeds the drinker's curiosity.

Easily drinkable & refreshing by the sip or gulp.

I've tried a 750 of this before, and wasn't too impressed. The tap version has redeemed it enough for me to give it another shot. The bottle had an off-putting plastic band-aid quality in the taste, that was really off and out of place.

Photo of metter98
3.95/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is hazy light reddish brown in color and has a light amount of carbonation. It poured with a finger high beige head that died down but consistently left a thin head covering the surface and lots of lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of sourness and cherries are present in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has a mixture of light sourness from the brett and hints of sweetness from the cherries.
M: It feels a bit more than light-bodied and is mostly tart on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer isn't very sour so it would make for a good beer for someone to try that is trying the style for the first time. There's just enough cherries and sweetness to prevent this from being very sour.

Photo of zaphodchak
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark amber body with 2 finger off-white head that laces like a champ.

Nose is very faint-- tart/vegetal, but faintly metallic... not too objectionable, but still.

Taste is interesting; sweet at first growing sour towards the middle. Faint bell pepper. There's kind of a sticky aftertaste (slightly sweet and sour), but this is not too objectionable.

Mouthfeel is creamy enough to undercut what would otherwise be a bitter lemonade taste. Nice.

Overall, a good example of a style for the Flemish sour. Not as sour as Dutchess or Monk's Cafe, nor as vegetal as Bourgogne de Flandres: a very effective compromise

Photo of Rastacouere
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dirty red-brown. Long lasting off-white to light tan cover. Intense brettanomyces nose, explosive cherries, atomic woodiness. Very big and directly to the point aroma. Sweaty, horsey, leafy. This has all the school elements of a good funky flemish sour. On the palate, the brett is as dominating, but the integration is not as efficient. Initially, tart cherries, strawberries and the likes have claims over the earthiness and genuinely evolve into a drying stone-like dryness full of green grapes, but then it hits a wall and every flavor escapes reality. At the same time than the short-flavored nature kicks in, those prickly big bubbles do a last effort to taunt you and expands into a big foam that has nothing worth keeping in your mouth any longer. Solid beer just because it’s a flemish sour, but just above average compared to other contenders in terms of palate. Spectacular beefy aroma on the other hand.

Photo of MaxOhle
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%

Photo of illidurit
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pour: 750 mL bottle to La Chouffe tulip. Rusty brown color, sort of like raspberry preserves. One finger of beige head fizzes to a fluffy halo and leaves some nice lacing.

Nose: Brown sugar sweetness peeks through a shroud of tart cherries and fruitcake. There's a very slight earthiness too.

Mouth: If the aroma translated exactly over to the flavor this beer would be world class, but it doesn't quite. Seems a little thin and fizzy on the palate, leading to unsupported flavors. What I can taste is lightly tart with black cherries and a trademark bretty earthiness in the finish. What's missing is the malt/ester sweetness dueling with the vinegary sharpness that I get from Duchesse or La Folie when I consider the stylistic pinnacle. Not bad but definitely a tier below the best.

Photo of mychalg9
3.85/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of CPeterson
3.84/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A - - A hazy, opaque rusty brew pours to a single finger head that settles to leave small gobs of lacing.

S - - Earthy wooden tones, acid, cherry notes accompanied by a hint of funk.

T - - A mild sourness is quickly balanced by the wood and cherry sweetness. Touches of pepper and a hint of clove on the finish.

M - - Soft carbonation, medium bodied, almost a little thin. Leaves a residual schmuck in your chops that isn't unpleasant but given the sourness level I wouldn't have expected.

O - - A nicely balanced and minor twist on a classic style, but not altogether mind blowing. Worth a try, I'd pick it up again for a refresher.

Photo of cjgator3
3.83/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle

A- Corked and caged bottle poured into a large tulip glass. Pours a dark brownish amber color with a light tan colored head that leaves a ring of lace around the glass.

S- The aroma is very sweet and fruity with a lot of sour cherries, grapes and some oak.

T- The taste is a nice mixture of sweet and sour with some cherries, oak and a dry finish. The taste can be a little on the sweet side for me.

M- The mouthfeel is light bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation.

D- The 750ml bottle of this beer may be a bit too much for me due to the sweetness. However, this is a pretty unique and interesting beer that is definitely worth a try.

Photo of Onibubba
3.83/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

No noticable sound as the cork is pulled. Tawny port color, slight beige head. Good retention, but nothing sticky. Initial aroma is all sweet tart sour. This dies down a bit once the beer has had a chance to relax. Taste is most similar to Victinaar, but nowhere near as rich. This is more earthy. I pick up more raisons than tart apple or cherry. Slight funkiness, slight sour edge.

Not my favorite of the style, but this beer does become more appealing as it warms. The complexities make themselves more appearant. That also makes this beer more of a sipper than its counterparts.

All in all, a good beer, but not a repeat purchase for me, and not a substitute for my poor missing Rodenbach.

Photo of Tilley4
3.83/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this one into my new Losy Abbey tulip....

Aromas of cherries and leather and oak along with some funk as well... Unusual aromas... Not as tart smelling as others of the style... There's a sweetness here that has me interested...

Very vinous aspects in the flavors... Slightly tart with some sweetness... I'm getting cherries here as well along with hints of vinegar and an earthiness that tones the sharper flavors down some...

Pretty good Flemish here... I didn't find this amazing but I can see myself grabbing this one again...

Photo of mjtiernan
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%

Photo of fairdinkum2
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a large bottle in to a tulip glass. This Flemish ale is a very murky brown, almost muddy appearance with some particulates evident in the bottom of the glass. What little head quickly disappeared. No lacing to speak of.

Smells pretty typical of the style, sour cherries and apples.

Taste is a litlle disappointing. Doesn't have the tang of a Rodenbach or quite the pucker of La Folie. Has some cherry and sour fruit notes, but overall the taste profile is just a little flat. Low carbonation, so this is pretty easy to put away, but I probably would look at other choices.

Photo of CampusCrew
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

appearance: garnet with lots of stick lacing, decent head rentetion for the style

aromas: subtle cherries and wild yeast

taste: well the flavors are subtle to compared to others ion catergory. cherry, like vinegar, not over powering sour by any means, off aftertaste

mouthfeel: light to medium bodied

drinkability: decent by also one of the worst Ive had in the style

Photo of SolomonGrundy
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Just by looking a quickly smelling, I think this might be solid gold right here...

The basics: $10.99/750ml bottle and 7% ABV...OK on both...

I dug the Van Twee so let's see where this bottle carries us...

In a great mood today as the busiest season for us tax types has finally come to a virtual end...It's all downhill from here...

Nice orange-red-amber, kinda cloudy, kinda not, if you get the meaning...Well carbonated. Sopay head that settles into a nice creamy half finger of persistence. Great lacing...

Aroma is so interesting...It's like sunshine bouncing off cherries in early Summer...It's crisp, clean, floral and fruity. Not overpowering and only the slightest hint of funk...The latter quality could be a bad sign as the funk usually lets us know it's well made...

Whoa, this is a bizarre drink...The carbonation is almost too much. It kills the initial sourness a bit. Nicely sour, but not puckeringly so...The cherry notes are kinda lost amid the whole crazy flavor profile...If you burp you certainly notice the cherry flavor, but in the drink it's washed away by so much else. I get some sour cherry once the fizz dies down, a hint of funk. The Brettanomyces is hardly apparent in here...They must have tossed it in as an afterthought...The touch of sweetness is very nice as it helps balance the whole out. The beer is very refreshing, but the flavor profile seems a tad confused to me...Like the brewers weren't sure what to do with the whole thing. It's still works out well, though, as the flavors open up as it warms. Finish carries a nice sweetness and a slight bitterness. Overall not as impressive as the Van Twee, but still good. I'd track it down at this price point as it's unique and refreshing.

What I like most: The unique flavor profile.

What I like least: The price and partly confused flavors profile.

Verdict: Good and unique beer that's worth the price.

Photo of philipquarles
3.78/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy dark mahogany with red tinges. A large off-white head gives way to a half-finger of foam and a lot of lacing after a while. That signature Brett smell hits immediately, with all of its usual sour, musty character; the sour cherries only come through afterward, though they are quite strong. The funk dominates the taste as well, with citric sourness and leather both prominent. A hint of chocolaty roasted malt comes next, with the real cherry taste only evident after a few sips. A definite woodiness in the background. Another great beer from the Proefbrouwerij.

Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 309 ratings.