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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

292 Ratings
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Ratings: 292
Reviews: 191
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 13.78%
Wants: 27
Gots: 21 | FT: 0
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De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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Slatetank

Pennsylvania

4.4/5  rDev +12.2%

Thanks to mughugger for sharing this w/ BitterBeerFace, HombreWing and me. Poured chilled into a Gouden Caroulus goblet

A - Deep amber w/ full white head of about an inch. There is a slight haze on this ale, probably from temperature

S - Cherry and raspberries w/ tropical accents like mango and pineapple. the medley of sweet and sour aromas is great. It has more sour notes when swirled, but has a nice nose

M - This is excellent feel-wise. This ale is not so sour that it makes you pucker, just enough to add depth and give the fruity sweetness contrast. It is highly effervescent and feels light but bursts w/ energetic presence

T - The main flavor is similar to strawberry w/ an earthy note and slight brett w/ subtle citrus and herbal tinges. The grain and yeast combine to give a nice underlying spice taste but the sweetness is relaxed and the flavors are layered w/ complexity

D - This is just out of this world drinkable for a 7% ale. The representation of the style is great I would drink this any chance I can get it is refreshing and has depth not something you can find often like the best of both worlds

06-20-2008 17:34:51 | More by Slatetank
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womencantsail

California

4.38/5  rDev +11.7%

A: The pour is a hazy amber-ish color with a nice khaki colored head.

S: Plenty of sour cherries right off the bat. A bit of vinegar, some lactic notes, and a hint of malt sweetness as well.

T: A really solid acidity to the flavor which keeps this beer really "bright" and easy to drink. Good cherry notes along with a bit of sweetness that goes well with the sourness. Not too much oak, but a decent dryness and tannic component.

M: The body is medium with a very lively carbonation and a dry finish.

D: I haven't been all that crazy about a lot of the De Proef beers, but this one was very nice. I'll have to see how the bottles in my cellar hold up.

07-16-2010 08:17:07 | More by womencantsail
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teromous

Virginia

4.38/5  rDev +11.7%

A: It pours a light tan, the color of tea. It's hazy in the glass and has a thin bubbly head.

S: It has a very strong sour smell to it. I pick up a little hint of alcohol smell. There is a hint of cherry smell to it...reminds me a lot of cherry lip balm. I get some slight earthy barn-like smells too.

T: It has an initial sourness but it fades into a malty back-flavor. The malt really stands up to the sourness and it doesn't leave my mouth puckering at all. The aftertaste is fruity, and reminiscent of fresh plums.

M: As I mentioned in the taste portion, it's not puckering at all. The mouthfeel is perfect. It has just the right amount of sourness to bitterness ratio to balance it out. It's great!

O: Overall this was a really great beer. I expected that it would be really sour and it wasn't. This is the perfect beer for people to try who want to enjoy a slightly sour beer without it being overwhelming.

07-05-2011 01:10:04 | More by teromous
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superspak

Michigan

4.38/5  rDev +11.7%

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours hazy reddish brown color with a nice 1-2 finger dense khaki head with great retention that reduces to a nice cap that lasts. Some nice soapy lacing on the glass as well. Aromas of big tart cherry, cherry skin, apple, cranberry, earthiness, funk, grass, oak, light acidity, and yeast spices. Nice and well balanced aromas with good complexity. Taste of tart cherry, cherry skin, apple, cranberry, pepper, earth, grass, light vinegar, oak, and yeast spices. Light tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of tart cherry, apple, cranberry, pepper, and yeast spices on the finish for a bit. Nice tart and sweet flavor balance and complexity; with cherry sweetness being more prominent. Medium carbonation and body; with a fairly slick and syrupy mouthfeel as expected. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming after the finish. Very smooth to drink but is a bit of a sipper. Overall this is a fantastic, very pleasant, and enjoyable Flanders red ale. Nice complexity and balance; and very smooth to drink. I had no trouble finishing the 750.

04-18-2012 03:37:06 | More by superspak
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BretSikkink

Mexico

4.38/5  rDev +11.7%

Red orange in color, a bit darker than that really, lighter around the edges though. Super sticky head, off white in color, and thick. Massive, 3-D lacing. This is a beauty no matter what style.

Funky Brett yeast dominates the nose, while also giving off plenty of cherry bitterness. A little too much towards the funk on this one, but still really nice. Same again in the mouth: too much of the barnyard, musty flavor while not giving the cherries a chance to shine. Probably some oak aging going on, this one retains a nice woody character.

Sweet, sour, oaky, delicious. Highly recommended.

04-21-2008 00:08:50 | More by BretSikkink
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rye726

Colorado

4.38/5  rDev +11.7%

Nice reddish brown color with a creamy tan head. The nose has tart fruits, ripe berries and musky barnyard wood. The taste is similar. Perhaps not as potent as other red's, but has a nice balance between sweet malts, tart citrus and oaky funk. Crisp body suits ale well. A superb brew and my new favorite from DeProef.

08-27-2008 02:29:54 | More by rye726
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

4.38/5  rDev +11.7%

Glowing firelight red-orange with bright Sunkist edges. Or maybe... polished copper kettle reflecting the last rays of a tropical sunset. This is my favorite beer color of all-time, hands down. The sticky, meringue-like crown holds up its end with no trouble at all, laying down scads of thick lace as it slowly melts. It doesn't get any better than this.

The nose is much more Brettanomyces-intensive than your average Flanders red ale. Of course, knowing De Proefbrouwerij, I didn't expect anything close to an average Flanders red. The barnyard funkiness doesn't quite cover up the scent of sour Belgian black cherry juice. I love what Brettanomyces does to beer, but it needs to be scaled back a little more in this case, so that center stage can be reserved for the cherries.

I feel the same way about the flavor profile, but to a lesser extent. Pungent funk rules early, there's no question about that. If one allows the beer to soak into the tongue, however, the tangy fruitiness of the black cherries rushes in at the midway point and dominates at the finish (as much as any flavor can dominate in a Brett-fermented beer).

I couldn't find out if Zoetzuur ever spent time in oak barrels. My guess is unquestionably 'yes'. There's a wonderful woodiness throughout the flavor arc, especially on the incredibly drying back end. I haven't even mentioned the hops yet. Who the hell puts East Kent Goldings and Tomahawk (Columbus) in a Flanders red? Nice idea, but I'm having a hard time appreciating them.

Perhaps the best part about this incredibly complex ale is a characteristic indicated by its name. Zoetzuur translates as 'sweet-sour'... and that is exactly what it is. The black cherry juice (and what tastes and feels like a generous amount of malt) adds more sweetness than is typical for the style. That sweetness is a fascinating foil for the puckery sour tanginess that lovers of this sort of beer crave.

The mouthfeel needs just a little more of that Belgian magic known as uplifting carbonation. With more mouthfilling volume, it would easily earn the next highest score. I'm splitting hairs here, but I remember Rodenbach Grand Cru as being superior when it comes to this characteristic.

Zoetzuur Flemish Ale is yet another outstanding creation from one of my favorite Belgian brewers. It's a near perfect melding of the Flanders red and wild ale styles that fans of each should love for its sheer inventiveness. Not to mention its lip smacking deliciousness. Extract the cork and let the sweet-sour mouth party begin!

10-15-2007 22:20:45 | More by BuckeyeNation
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russpowell

Oklahoma

4.35/5  rDev +11%

750 ml bottle, no dating, sampled in a Vondel snifter (my favorite glass when I don't have the exact match for Belgian beer sampling)

Pours an effervescent caramel/orange with 3 fingers of fluffy sand colored head. Good lacing & superior head retention, keeps 1/2" of head all the way down

S: Tart. sour & oaky smells up front& not much else

T: Slight sourness, tartness & sour cherries up front. Woody dryness with then permeates this. Some real tart raspberry is there as well. Finishes bone dry, tart & with big time sour cherry & a little bit of almond

MF: Puckery & DRY! Minimal carbonation, perfect for the style

Drinkability suffers a bit, due to the dryness & sourness, but a good example of a genre I'm not in love with. But the beerworld is a better place for such oddities

05-19-2007 01:36:47 | More by russpowell
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stumac

Texas

4.35/5  rDev +11%

Quote of the night:

"You just can't beat a Thai prostitute at Connect Four." my buddy Rob

this brew pours a murky amber color with a decent off white head. great lacing all down my glass. the nose is sour, cherries, subtle malt. the taste is sour! fruits, complete tartness, cherries. full bodied, low carbo, sweet finish

10-31-2008 18:36:03 | More by stumac
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SurlyDuff

Oregon

4.35/5  rDev +11%

Caged&Corked 750 with a real solid pop.

First pour was a bit cold, but I warmed the glass in my hands.

Rich redddish brown and a bit watery when poured. Monster beige head thanks to a bad pour.

Musty wood, vinegar apples and underripe fruit, most notably cherries and pear. Good earthy spice. If anything, just a tad bit too vinegar.

Incredibly drinkable woody and earthy tartness. THe vinegar is subsided in the taste. Good brett presence gives it a rather saison bandaidy flavor. Good smooth creamy soft body. A fine flanders!

08-19-2008 16:20:08 | More by SurlyDuff
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allengarvin

Texas

4.35/5  rDev +11%

Poured into a Duvel glass, this has a rusty brown color, with a persistent and thick inch-tall head. Fruity, very tart aroma, with a nice musty-cellar earthiness. Wow, a lot more brett-like character comes through in the flavor than I expected, or is usual for the style, and less sourness. There's a nice cheesy leather flavor up front, with a sour cherry fruitiness winding things up. There's even some drying bitterness in the middle that makes things rather interesting. Very curious, unique, and quite tasty!

12-20-2008 18:25:08 | More by allengarvin
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dstc

Florida

4.33/5  rDev +10.5%

Pours a cloudy, ruby brown color with a light tan head. Head falls to a very minimal one. Thinnest of lace.

Nice smell of sour cherries yet has a bit of a sweet aroma as well.

Nice funky farmhouse taste. Tastes of cherries and has a nice sourness to it. Sweet malts are there as well and no real noticeable hops.

Medium bodied in the mouth with mild carbonation.

Awesome, easy drinking beer. Love the sweet/sour quality of the brew. Real nice.

05-05-2010 01:17:44 | More by dstc
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SkeeterHawk

Texas

4.33/5  rDev +10.5%

This beer is really aromatic with some pronounced wood. This beer is definitely a Red with a pronounced sourness to it. There is a really defined Brett character to this one like a lot of homebrews have. The flavor is exquisite with its sweet and sour, cherry and berry medley with a little dryness in the flavor to linger for some time in the finish. There is a little bit of alcohol noticeable late in the finish, but it is quite deceptive at 7%. As the beer warms a little, you get a good bit of citrus coming out. This is a nice beer, and one that I would definitely like to drink again.

10-03-2006 04:15:46 | More by SkeeterHawk
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snaotheus

Washington

4.33/5  rDev +10.5%

750ml bottle split into pint glasses. Got it at Binny's in Orland Park

Pours a dark reddish brown with a fast fading beige head. Cloudy beer, slight lacing. Smells very sour, mostly cherries.

Taste is sweet-tart, cherry and strawberry, very pleasant.

Mouthfeel is light and smooth. Very drinkable as a sour ale. I like it.

12-28-2009 03:28:13 | More by snaotheus
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gueuzeonhigh

Maine

4.33/5  rDev +10.5%

It is indeed a Flanders Red Ale. Pours a red-brown dark transmitting muted tones though the clear walls of the glass.
A tight knit head lacing the glass holds itself in vogue as the body retreats back to the surface.

The nose releases wafts of citrus, wild cherry and bitter hops with an umbra of malt or sweetness.

Flavor is a wonderful combination of tart green apple flavor with a sweet cherry or even citrus. There is enough effervescence to the beer to accompany the flavor's sweet-sour that adds or almost animates the flavor.

The mouthfeel is cordial-- everything about this beer seems to be in balance-- flavor, flavor characteristics, finish, effervescence and alcohol content.

Drinkability is superior. Alcohol is low enough to make a pint or two per sitting quite possible w/o deleterious effects. The flavor is such that it produces an interest to beckon my drinking the beer and tipping the bottle with some disdain realizing it was empty.

This wonderful Flemish Ale could become a regular in my beer cellar.

01-25-2011 00:01:45 | More by gueuzeonhigh
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Stinkypuss

Pennsylvania

4.3/5  rDev +9.7%

De Proef Zoetzuur Flemish Ale
(according to the bottle, brewed with Kriek juice)

Pours a nice ruby color, off white head and nice lacing. Aroma of berries, so quite fruity and slight hint of funk. In the taste, a nice tart sourness, mild acidity, sugary malt, and a hint of cherry juice. Very well balanced with a perfect mix of sweet, sour, malt, and fruit. Ever so slight touch of red wine vinegar. Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied and drying. Overall, one of the best examples of the Flanders style, and the fruit is downplayed and left in the background where it belongs. Well done.

11-14-2011 00:33:45 | More by Stinkypuss
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Bitterbill

Wyoming

4.3/5  rDev +9.7%

Bottle courtesy of joe1510. Thanks Joe!

A big pop when I removed the faux cork, it pours a clear ruby red with a one finger head of foam and shows a ton of nice lacing.

The smell is fruity sour with big notes of cherries and a very light note of something sweet. Maybe I'll figure that out when I taste it.

The taste starts off tart with the cherries and green apples but quickly is matched head to head with a nice honey like and maybe fruity sweetness. Man, this one is sweet & sour but neither wants to take center stage and for me, that works very damn well for my palate, not so much for what I'd expect for the style. It sure is easy to drink though so I can't complain all that much. Heck, now I'm tasting a bit of funk that I didn't notice when the beer was a bit colder. A plus in my book.

Medium bodied with medium carbonation, it finishes decidedly on the sweet side. Head rention seemed to get better with every pour and the lacing is just outstanding.

Drinkability? No problems with the abv, plenty of flavour, I'll have no problem finishing the last pour from the bottle which, btw, is decidely cloudy now. A very enjoyable brew and I again thank Joe for his generosity and spirit of adventure as I don't think that I'd have ever sought this beer out on my own. When I visit a beer store with a lot of Belgians, I get overwhelmed! ;^)

06-14-2009 16:35:32 | More by Bitterbill
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Darkale

Virginia

4.28/5  rDev +9.2%

Odd to see myself drinking a Flanders Red Ale; when I first got into good beer, I thought beers like this were little more than carbonated vinegar, but I find myself enjoying this brew quite a bit.

The beer is a beautiful murky deep reddish-butterscotch orange, with a thin layer of tan head and spotty lacing.

Aroma is musty, sour, but only a hint of vinegar, just a tad sharp and acidic.

I can taste sour apple, more vinegar, but a round creamy background keeps it in check. Excellent mouthfeel - creamy and sweet against the sour.

A fun beer to drink -- interesting and different. Perhaps not as radically funky and sour as some are used to, but a good introduction to sour beers for the relatively uninitiated, and a pleasant sipper for an evening.

10-04-2008 23:12:55 | More by Darkale
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dogfooddog

Panama

4.28/5  rDev +9.2%

750ml served at 50f, pours 40% head into a lambic glass. Nose is the first surprise, most resembles a lambic nose with some malty notes thrown in. So much for the flemish red expectation.

Taste is several different things happening at the same time. Initially is the sourness I would expect from a gueuze, but also there is a strong heavier taste undertone which is woody and almost sweet. The complexity in the taste is amazing, as or more complex than most lambics and any flemish reds I have had.

Later into the bottle the taste alternates between initially sweet and then (a second or less later) sour, I don't think I have ever run into this contrast in a beer before. The alcohol is nicely invisible.

The aftertaste is woody and musty; this may be the least impressive feature of this very impressive beer.

This is a must-try beer if you enjoy lambics (traditional) or flemish sour ales, and worth trying in general for the amazing dance of flavor the brewer has crafted here.

04-06-2006 01:18:23 | More by dogfooddog
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dedrinker

Kansas

4.28/5  rDev +9.2%

Kind of a murky rust color with a thin cream colored head that clings to the glass on its way down. Aromas of sour cherry and horse blanket with a little sweetness. The flavor is quite similar with an underlying sweetness that is balanced against the sour, acidic quality. Medium bodied with a fine, slightly sharp carbonation that quickly mellows before becoming prickly. An acidic and metallic finish that is somewhat refreshing. Well done.

06-22-2008 04:42:57 | More by dedrinker
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wchesak

South Carolina

4.28/5  rDev +9.2%

Poured into spiegelau tulip glass

A - see through more red than brown amber color, head is khaki with a slight pink tinge, very rocky meringue like head, leaves lots of long trails of lace

S - red wine vinegar soaked cherries, some barnyard like funk in the back, vanilla, cherry cough syrup

T - sweet then sour then sweet then sour - jesus what a transition across the palette - each one is cherry but its different manifestation changes it; more vanilla is seen in this flavor; slight funky/sour aftertaste, bit medicinal

M - smooth, almost velvety, perfect carbonation for the style - plenty of bubbles, even though the pop on the cork was minimal

D - after pouring I knew I was going to really enjoy this beer, had a moment a few years ago when i got big into sours/oud bruins/etc and this beer might have restarted it - will seek out the Cantillons and Drie Fonteinens of the world

07-21-2010 01:52:45 | More by wchesak
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paulthebeerguru

Florida

4.28/5  rDev +9.2%

A: pours an opaque pale ruby color. light tan head. outstanding head retention. huge curtain lacing.

S: sour cherries, light citrus, major tartness. a little sugary. light berries as well.

T: very interesting palate. apples, cherries, a light amount of citrus. starts off very sweet, then turns to sours rapidly. light hint of spices. some caramel.

M: solid carbonation level, a little bubbly. wonderful opposite mouthfeels with the sweet and sour tartness. medium bodied.
very smooth and mellow for the style.

03-09-2009 01:24:32 | More by paulthebeerguru
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rtepiak

Poland

4.28/5  rDev +9.2%

a nice balanced flemish red with a mild sour and a unique mild bitter earthy finish of tobacco and fruit. not as dark as most but still not to off the wall. really nice head. nose of floral cherry and a some alcohol. not too yeasty. earthiness is almost a mildly burnt clove that blend wonderfully with the oak and cherry and soft sweet. not metallic in mineral nature. very nice. very good example of the style.

11-08-2009 06:20:02 | More by rtepiak
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Thorpe429

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

Reviewed from notes.

Poured into a tulip glass. The color is a red amber with a good light tan head and some lacing. The nose is red wine, tart cherries, mild vinegar, and a bit of funk. The taste adds in a bit of oak and is a bit heavy on the acetic acid. Good puckering feel with some light funk and oak. Drinks quite well; another enjoyable brew from De Proef.

11-09-2010 21:59:59 | More by Thorpe429
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phattman073

Texas

4.25/5  rDev +8.4%

07-11-2012 22:54:01 | More by phattman073
Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
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