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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

294 Ratings
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Ratings: 294
Reviews: 191
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 13.78%
Wants: 27
Gots: 21 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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Photo of bobhits
1.89/5  rDev -51.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 1.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Avoiding the complex review. This is unique as hell to be a flanders red. I get dark cherries, apples, and cider backed by an over carbonated carbonation burst. It doesn't sounds good, but to be honest it's rather refreshing and fruit in a pretty good way. Just don't expect puckering sour or over the top vinegar notes like some of the better flanders do.

I feel less good at this beer review stuff seeing as how the bottle tells me it was made with cherries. Oh well. Spices are subtle but there.

This is an ok beer, and given the reasonable price I don't knock it, but it doesn't really meet the style expectations and it is ok not great. 13 bucks for this bottle, not awful given it is a sour.

My final score adjust slightly for the style where this is just below average and I had to score it as such. Still I enjoyed it but who doesn't enjoy a beer that isn't awful?
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Edit

As I drink more the sweetness is over the top and the aroma just doesn't entice me. It has some good flavors and I recommend a SMALL tasting of this one.

Edit 2.

This is going down the drain. It has some nice flavors mixed in with just not good ones. It honestly is impossible to get past 10 oz of this which means a full 16 oz pour is going down the drain. I'd worry about an old bottle but this style shouldn't be hurt by some age. Sorry but apples and cherry a great ideas in a sour, but it has to be sour. This isn't sour. It isn't good.

bobhits, Apr 24, 2013
Photo of jmhart
1.9/5  rDev -51.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Picked this up at Hop City based on the recommendation of many BAs.

750mL poured into a snifter shared with Mrandypandy.

A- Poured a deep mahogany, but showed some brilliant, red delicious hints when held up to the light. Not much carbonation, but that's standard.

S- Some definite acetic notes, apples, and grapes. Not the greatest sour smell, but it shows promise.

T- Apple juice. Tastes like all natural unfiltered apple juice. The kind you get at a farmer's market where they grind the apples right in front of you. Overly sweet with no sour notes at all. Really disappointing.

M- Medium bodied with not much carbonation. It's got a decent mouth feel...but so does unfiltered apple juice.

D- my tasting partner silently decided to abstain from the rest of this bottle, and I ended up pouring out my last glass. It was just not good.

jmhart, Aug 08, 2010
Photo of siddhartha
2/5  rDev -49%

siddhartha, Apr 28, 2012
Photo of AndyEdgar
2.25/5  rDev -42.6%

AndyEdgar, Jun 16, 2014
Photo of dbalsock
2.4/5  rDev -38.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Poured a tan brown color with a good white head. Didn't look too active on the carbonation side of things, however.

Smell: Light chocolate taffy, vinegar, basement and the old rotting wood pile that was behing the house I grew up in. Interesting, but not good.

Taste: Raisins and vinegar come through heavily on this, which is more consistent with my experience of a flemish red ale, but again moldy basement was very present as well.

Mouthfeel: Sourish and puckering, but also a little too sharp in the back of the throat. Usually I like sour beers, but this had another sharp feeling too it that was too much for me.

Drinkability: I found this very hard to drink, but it wasn't a drain pour. Compared to any other flanders red, it's a little harder to suck down and doesn't quite match up. However, I would be willing to give this another go sometime in the future.

dbalsock, Apr 01, 2007
Photo of Crosling
2.45/5  rDev -37.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark copper, old currency color with a large white head aloft. Moderate Flemish Sour aroma, with mild apple aromatics and sugary fruit. Not really any oak or sour yeast chartacter, although it does smell slightly musty. Really mild overall, lacking character and depth and possessingly a mildly tart apple flavor. On the finish, however, is a very sugary, sweetened fruitiness, that begins after the swallow and is very sweet and cinnamon like. It’s very sweet overall, presumably sweetened. This is a very poor example of a Flemish Sour in my opinion. Almost laughably bad and the sweetness lingers.

Crosling, Apr 24, 2006
Photo of harrymel
2.48/5  rDev -36.7%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Unknown age on the bottle, but it was in the discount bin, which means it was at least one year on the shelves...

Poured to NB globe.

A: Pours a hazy mahogany ale with little to no head formation despite turbulent pour. Affluent peanut colored film is broken sans evident carbonation.

S: Raisins, prunes,,,,dark fruits dominate the nose. Quite difficult for me to discern. As advertised, sweet and sour. Very reserved as far as flemish ale's go.

T: More tart than I had anticipated. This is quite nice. However, the fruits continue to limit the appreciable flemish qualities one would anticipate. As the ale resonates, I start to sense the cherries typical of the style.

M: medium bodied, low carbonation.

D: Having a hard time enjoying this one. It's tolerable, but I wish the bottle wasn't 750ml's. ended up pouring half out.

harrymel, Feb 06, 2011
Photo of crobinso
2.5/5  rDev -36.2%

crobinso, Jul 06, 2013
Photo of SeattleAdam
2.6/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A- Finger of off white head. Red at bottom of glass and gets lighter towards the top. The rocky head dissipates just a bit and clears way for bubbles.

S- Grape soda, rasberry jam, sour, fruity lambic.

T- Hoppy burn but sour. Hits back of tounge and washes/settles to the front. Kind of a backwards effect! Very fizzy and grape. This beer will hit your nose as much as your mouth. Tastes like acidic, citrus fruit juices after brushing your teeth. Very interesting but not too pleasant.

M- I think this is a little too carbonated...to the point of fizzy. This settles in the weirdest, backwards way. Thin mouth feel.

D- I don't think I will be purchasing this again. It's drinkable in the sense that you can't taste any booze at all but it's not drinkable in the sense that it's fizzy and too acidic.

SeattleAdam, Apr 30, 2009
Photo of Ogre
2.75/5  rDev -29.8%

Ogre, Nov 03, 2012
Photo of goochpunch
2.79/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours out a hazy rusty red. Cherry smell is pretty big up front. Faint tart smell in the background, but cherry pushes it out. Taste is interesting. Not your typical Flemish red. Has a pretty big hit of brett along with the usual tartness. The cherry is a little much. Kind of sweet too. Fairly heavy body with some stinging carbonation (although low carbonation; weird). I think I'd like this a whole lot more if it weren't for the cherry.

goochpunch, May 12, 2013
Photo of Beaver13
2.83/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

750 ml bottle. Pours hazy reddish amber with a smallish creamy white head that goes to a thin film and leaves some lacing.

The aroma is tart sour cherries and some funky yeast with a little wood.

The flavor is sweet sugary cherries with a little sour tartness. There are some acidic cardboard notes and a bit of an odd finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, it's almost good. Too sweet with odd off-notes.

Beaver13, Feb 11, 2013
Photo of JDV
2.83/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Shared at tasting with Fly, Dewbrewer, Humulone_Red and others. Thanks guys!
Rich amber colored pour with a small beige head. Smell is lightly sour with cherry, mildish funky feet like aroma, and hints of cheese. Mild tartness and a subtle cheese like flavor in the finish, I thought. Very dry overall and with light sweetness. Went very well with the bleu cheese. Nice beer, and I'm starting to get more interested in the style. Thanks for sharing this one Alan!

JDV, Mar 15, 2008
Photo of Aggy360
2.83/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy reddish brown with nice beige head. Leaves a light web-like lace on the glass

A: Slightly sour aroma. Sweet peaches and some bacteria (Lacto & Brett, I believe).

T: Tart. Sweet malts, and it seem like there is some wheaty flavors. Very mild sour cherries and some peaches.

M: Medium light body. Dry finish.

O: A well balenced Fanders Red. Easy drinker for the style, there are other sour ales that will blow it away on the pucker rating. As the beer warms more complexities come through. I would recommend this to someone who has not tried a sour ale, before introducing them to more "in-your-face" sour beers.

Aggy360, Jan 09, 2010
Photo of ktrillionaire
2.88/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

G – Tulip

A – Hazy red-brown, somewhat drab with a decent head from a hard pour and a wee bit of lacing.

S – For the style, only moderately sour; it smells like apple cider, white grape juice and also a bit like pink wine.

T – If it’s cold, it’s fairly unspectacular; if it warms up, it takes on a bit more liveliness. It is, regardless, disappointing. It has a wine quality to it, it is vaguely sour and fruity, it has a wheaty element, and other than that I should mention that I am not terribly impressed. It also has a red wine aftertaste, like Cabernet perhaps. The problem is that it has a very muted and mild taste, relative to the already subtle nose, and relative to the style especially. To be an optimist, I would say it is very chuggable; not necessarily what I am looking for in a Flanders Red. I would say stick with widely available sours like Petrus' Aged Pale or Oud Bruin, or Verhaeghe's Vichtenaar or Duchesse.

M – The feel is ok, but not great; somewhat thin, under-carbonated, and with a drying finish.

D – Overall, this beer is a weak example of one of the greatest styles of beer in the world.

ktrillionaire, Feb 13, 2010
Photo of DoubleJ
2.9/5  rDev -26%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Let's go sweet and sour tonight. On to the beer:

Poured into an oversized wine glass, this beer features a clouded light brown/tanned color. Average head retention, with polka-dot lacing sticking to the glass initially. The beer has both that sweet and sour aroma. Strawberries and caramel is the best way to put it. The grain is a little bit musty.

Very mild flavor. The flavor intensity on this one is very low to my surprise. There is a touch of that vinegary sour flavor, but it's not going to make you think it's salad dressing. Very lighty tart. A little sweet. Faint strawberry, hint of those caramel chews. Watermelon is hinted as well. I wish the flavor were more intense. Well, at loeast it feels like a Flanders Red...it has a good body, firm bubbles....no overcarbonation or thin feel. The aftertaste seems musty, and doesn't amount to anything exciting. It's drinkable, but not interesting...but I got 750 ml to drink, so away I go...

Why are you still reading this? Give this a pass.

DoubleJ, Jan 15, 2010
Photo of nataku00
2.98/5  rDev -24%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Bottle poured into a tulip glass (probably 2 years old). Beer pours murky reddish brown with minimal head as a thin collar around the edges. Looks like a decent amount of very tiny bubbles streaming up from the bottom from what is visible at the edge of the glass.

Nose is acetic acid, generic red berry, red apple. Actually smells like apple juice with a little balsamic vinegar mixed in.

Taste is is like apple juice tinged with vinegar and oak. If I didn't think this was beer, I'd guess it was stale apple juice.

Lighter side of medium body with some creamy mouthfeel due to the good amount of tiny carbonation. A strange beer that I doubt I would try again as there are many better Flanders red available compared to this.

nataku00, May 27, 2013
Photo of pperez38
3/5  rDev -23.5%

pperez38, Jan 31, 2012
Photo of JustinQ
3/5  rDev -23.5%

JustinQ, Aug 02, 2012
Photo of Douglas14
3/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours out a dark amber color withblittle to no head. The smell is very interesting. It has a slight lactic and acetic sourness along with a meat-like quality. Partially good partially bad. On the palate it is much better. There is a slight residual sweetness to acompany the sourness that is very nice. A downside is the same aroma comes back up through the back of my nose, bringing with it the meat quality. The beer grows on me though as I drink more of it.

Douglas14, Sep 15, 2010
Photo of nrs207
3/5  rDev -23.5%

nrs207, Aug 16, 2013
Photo of FilumDee
3/5  rDev -23.5%

FilumDee, Apr 19, 2014
Photo of heytomcat
3/5  rDev -23.5%

heytomcat, Aug 06, 2014
Photo of micstache
3/5  rDev -23.5%

micstache, Dec 23, 2011
Photo of bowersdm
3.03/5  rDev -22.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

750mL faux-corked and caged bottle, a portion of which was poured into a 22oz brandy snifter.

A - pours the color of tea with some reddish hues. it's hard to describe it because I'm not big into art. i'll go with ruby/brown. a head that was just barely bigger than 0cm formed. not enough to determine the color effectively.

S - strawberry banana yogurt, lactic acid, sour cherries, strawberries, leather, musty attic

T - when i first tried this beer, I though it was sweet and sour at the same time, which would seem to go against the style. (I thought my palate was messing with me.) After looking through a few reviews I realized that it is indeed sweet and sour, so here goes: tart lactic acid (subtle) and fruit (cherries, strawberries, grapes, cranberries) that starts out sweet but then starts to go sour. the finish is of...hops? at least, it's a slightly citrus-zest like finish, so I'm going to guess hops. there was a musty attic/leather flavor throughout, but it became more prominent in the finish. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but this beer seems more like an oud Bruin than a Red Ale.

M - pretty thin body. adequately carbonated. it was like drinking flat seltzer water

D - definitely not worth the $10.99 per bottle considered that Duchesse de Bourgogne was the same price. I feel constantly let down by this style because Duchesse was the first one that I tried and I'm always expecting that level of acetic acid character. This isn't your typical Flanders Red because it's sweet, while also being sour. If you're interested in the style, try this, but otherwise, don't waste your money. Buy some Duchesse de Bourgogne instead.

bowersdm, Mar 28, 2009
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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 294 ratings.