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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

Zoetzuur Flemish AleZoetzuur Flemish Ale

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BA SCORE
88
very good

272 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 272
Reviews: 188
rAvg: 3.93
pDev: 13.74%


Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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CPeterson

Minnesota

3.84/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A - - A hazy, opaque rusty brew pours to a single finger head that settles to leave small gobs of lacing.

S - - Earthy wooden tones, acid, cherry notes accompanied by a hint of funk.

T - - A mild sourness is quickly balanced by the wood and cherry sweetness. Touches of pepper and a hint of clove on the finish.

M - - Soft carbonation, medium bodied, almost a little thin. Leaves a residual schmuck in your chops that isn't unpleasant but given the sourness level I wouldn't have expected.

O - - A nicely balanced and minor twist on a classic style, but not altogether mind blowing. Worth a try, I'd pick it up again for a refresher.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2014 02:19:27 | More by CPeterson
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Jonada

New Jersey

3.7/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

750ml bottle with no freshness date poured into a wine glass

Appearance: Pours a red brown color typical to the style. Standard pour yielded 2 fingers of a light beige head with moderate spotty lacing. Body is dark but relatively clear with moderate visible carbonation.

Smell: Balsamic vinegar, sweet cherry juice, light funkiness, apple and a slight lactic character. There's a sugary candy character to the aroma as well, almost like cherry pixie sticks.

Taste: Sweet and sour cherry, vinegar, oak, darker fruit, decent amount of maltiness. Sourness is on the low end.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with medium soft carbonation. Reasonably high drinkability.

Overall: Not extremely memorable, but still a good beer. Not sure that I would get this again, but would recommend as a good beginner beer for someone new to sours.

Serving type: bottle

01-02-2014 01:51:17 | More by Jonada
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Zraly

Virginia

4.01/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours brown with tinges of ruby and purple. Smells fruity and sour like lemon yogurt. Used a Teku glass for sampling.

Sour cherry note predominates. The sourness is a bit on the mild side but it makes for a very friendly beer. Hints of clove and black pepper linger toward the finish. Given the sweet and sour nature, this finishes quite dry. Medium-light in body. Carbonation could be a touch more heightened to liven up the mouthfeel a bit more. But as it stands, it is a nice food beer. We enjoyed vegetarian stir-fry noodles and it complimented but cut through the soy flavor nicely.

Serving type: bottle

07-21-2013 22:34:02 | More by Zraly
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spoony

Colorado

3.54/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

From a 750 ml bottle into a tulip glass.

A-The brew is a medium, nutty brown with ruby-red highlights. It is more clear than many oud bruins or Flemish reds. The two-finger-tall light-tan head drops quickly and leaves a little ring of lace. I cannot see any carbonation.

S-The smell is full of juicy cherry. I mean, it smells like real cherries, which is good, I guess, but it also gives it a sort-of stale aroma. There is also a bit of vanilla and a woody, lactic funkiness. There is not a lot of acid or vinous smell here and fruity sweetness dominates.

T-The taste, like the smell, is full of sweet, juicy cherry. There is more acid noticeable on the palate, but the acid doesn't really add complexity or balance the cherry flavors; rather, it just bites on the throat. There is also a touch of malty prune and raisin, and a drying woody flavor on the finish.

M-The feel is pretty standard for the style with lower carbonation levels, light to medium heft, and a drying finish.

O-This beer gets props for tasting like real cherry juice, but I'm not sure that real cherry juice flavor makes for a good beer in this instance. As noted above, it tastes more like a out-of-date kid's juice box than a Flanders Red Ale. A little more useful acidity might have helped here.

Serving type: bottle

06-21-2013 14:50:18 | More by spoony
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GJ40

North Carolina

4.11/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled from a 750ml bottle. Nice appearance with a reddish brown color and a moderate beige head. Lively. Aroma has fruit and a hint of the sour/tart/funk to come. The sour/tart/funky flavor is balanced and well behaved yet complex and inspiring. I really enjoyed it from start to finish.

Serving type: bottle

06-16-2013 03:58:04 | More by GJ40
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metter98

New York

3.95/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is hazy light reddish brown in color and has a light amount of carbonation. It poured with a finger high beige head that died down but consistently left a thin head covering the surface and lots of lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of sourness and cherries are present in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has a mixture of light sourness from the brett and hints of sweetness from the cherries.
M: It feels a bit more than light-bodied and is mostly tart on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer isn't very sour so it would make for a good beer for someone to try that is trying the style for the first time. There's just enough cherries and sweetness to prevent this from being very sour.

Serving type: bottle

05-31-2013 22:26:52 | More by metter98
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nataku00

California

2.98/5  rDev -24.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Bottle poured into a tulip glass (probably 2 years old). Beer pours murky reddish brown with minimal head as a thin collar around the edges. Looks like a decent amount of very tiny bubbles streaming up from the bottom from what is visible at the edge of the glass.

Nose is acetic acid, generic red berry, red apple. Actually smells like apple juice with a little balsamic vinegar mixed in.

Taste is is like apple juice tinged with vinegar and oak. If I didn't think this was beer, I'd guess it was stale apple juice.

Lighter side of medium body with some creamy mouthfeel due to the good amount of tiny carbonation. A strange beer that I doubt I would try again as there are many better Flanders red available compared to this.

Serving type: bottle

05-27-2013 21:37:10 | More by nataku00
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

4.24/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Like mu shu pork dishes, De Proef's rendition of sweet Kriek and and sour Lambic brings the intertwine of sweet and spice together in harmonious fashion.

And with the cherry fruits front and center, the beer's hue takes on the color of cherry in a deep honey-amber tone. A creamy blanket of cottony froth coats the ale and laces with intricate patterns while trailing with sturdy retention.

And again in aroma, the scent of cherries are prevalent- both sour and sweet versions show with the intensity found in fresh baked cherry pies. Complex earthen notes waft over the nose with sea air, wet hay, and a mild wood spice twang.

Once again, its fruit-forward taste is reminiscent of "Sour Patch" candies and reduced cherries- both tart and black. Saved by the musty underpinnings of brine, dried limes, light leather, weathered cedar and hay all provide a depth of mature tastes that balance the fruit to perfection. Spicy late, the ale is mildly peppery, acidic, and somewhat medicinal for a counter to the tart sweetness that commands the early palate.

Medium-light in body, the sour ale is malty and moderately creamy until the acidic sharpness cuts right through the malts and favor a wine-like finish with a balsamic pang. Its alcohol is hardly detectable while the sourness provides the dryness that's experienced in its conclusion.

The beer isn't as sweet as the more popular cherry sour ales but isn't as dry as the more authentic Kriek Ales. Its medium intensity and medium weight makes it ideally suited for like-minded cuisine- like Mu Shu Pork?

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2013 05:24:25 | More by BEERchitect
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goochpunch

Texas

2.79/5  rDev -29%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours out a hazy rusty red. Cherry smell is pretty big up front. Faint tart smell in the background, but cherry pushes it out. Taste is interesting. Not your typical Flemish red. Has a pretty big hit of brett along with the usual tartness. The cherry is a little much. Kind of sweet too. Fairly heavy body with some stinging carbonation (although low carbonation; weird). I think I'd like this a whole lot more if it weren't for the cherry.

Serving type: bottle

05-12-2013 01:48:21 | More by goochpunch
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bobhits

Kentucky

1.89/5  rDev -51.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 1.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Avoiding the complex review. This is unique as hell to be a flanders red. I get dark cherries, apples, and cider backed by an over carbonated carbonation burst. It doesn't sounds good, but to be honest it's rather refreshing and fruit in a pretty good way. Just don't expect puckering sour or over the top vinegar notes like some of the better flanders do.

I feel less good at this beer review stuff seeing as how the bottle tells me it was made with cherries. Oh well. Spices are subtle but there.

This is an ok beer, and given the reasonable price I don't knock it, but it doesn't really meet the style expectations and it is ok not great. 13 bucks for this bottle, not awful given it is a sour.

My final score adjust slightly for the style where this is just below average and I had to score it as such. Still I enjoyed it but who doesn't enjoy a beer that isn't awful?
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Edit

As I drink more the sweetness is over the top and the aroma just doesn't entice me. It has some good flavors and I recommend a SMALL tasting of this one.

Edit 2.

This is going down the drain. It has some nice flavors mixed in with just not good ones. It honestly is impossible to get past 10 oz of this which means a full 16 oz pour is going down the drain. I'd worry about an old bottle but this style shouldn't be hurt by some age. Sorry but apples and cherry a great ideas in a sour, but it has to be sour. This isn't sour. It isn't good.

Serving type: bottle

04-24-2013 00:11:06 | More by bobhits
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Beaver13

Colorado

2.83/5  rDev -28%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

750 ml bottle. Pours hazy reddish amber with a smallish creamy white head that goes to a thin film and leaves some lacing.

The aroma is tart sour cherries and some funky yeast with a little wood.

The flavor is sweet sugary cherries with a little sour tartness. There are some acidic cardboard notes and a bit of an odd finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, it's almost good. Too sweet with odd off-notes.

Serving type: bottle

02-11-2013 05:30:11 | More by Beaver13
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DavidST

Texas

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle into a goblet, not quite sure the bottled date, there might be a coded bottle date on the bottle (maybe bottled 5/12?).

This pours a hazy, slighty yeast dregs tea brown with a small short lived tan head which doesn't leave a lacing. The smells are slighly funky, a nice mixture of sweet cherries and barnyard funk from brett, a slight vinegar smell. The feel is medium, okay carbonination. The taste is slightly sweet up front followed by a very strong earthy funky brett taste, with a little bit of sourness, more of a sweet and funk than a sweet and sour, nice though.

Serving type: bottle

01-12-2013 04:35:11 | More by DavidST
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draheim

Washington

3.23/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750mL into a tulip. Pours a clear amber w/ a 2-finger head that leaves behind a thin web of lace, moderate carb.

Aroma is tart and fruity. Sour cherries, dry oak.

Taste leads off with a disagreeable grainy quality. Ruh-roh. Crushed aspirin, copper penny. Not nearly as much tartness as the nose implied. Vague sour cherry tempered by sweet fruity malt, but that metallic taste mutes everything else.

Mouthfeel is light, crisp, dry. Soft on the palate, good carbonation.

Overall I just didn't enjoy this very much. The flat medicinal grainy taste ruined it for me.

Serving type: bottle

10-29-2012 05:57:23 | More by draheim
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OtherShoe2

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours medium brown with reddish hues and a foamy white head. Some spotty lacing.

Nice sour cherry and tart malt notes.

Sour fruit in the mouth, with some stone fruit pit bitterness coming up from the rear. Nice malt and fruit balance, with a little malty/bitter give and take at the end. Nice beer.

Medium bodied, nice mouthfeel.

Overall, solid version f the style. A welcoming volume with the bomber providing plenty to appreciate. Try this.

Serving type: bottle

08-25-2012 22:51:01 | More by OtherShoe2
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donkeyrunner

Massachusetts

4.1/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Dark burgundy with a large of white head. Great retention, lasts longer than most of this style.

Smells primarily of cherry juice with a dessert-like cinnamon brown sugar edge. Hints of MaCintosh apple peel.

Tastes like cherry juice up front with a hint of darker fruit in back. Grape? Black cherry? Something like that. "Fluffy mouthfeel." Brown sugar and bruised apple.

Not as funky as I'd like in a red. The malt possesses great depth and character but needs more funky foil.

Serving type: bottle

07-12-2012 23:09:32 | More by donkeyrunner
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imasloth

Texas

4.23/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Bright red with a large, quickly dissipating white head. Barely a peep when we pulled the cork but carbonation was certainly there. fine, but quickly disappearing lacing.

S- Tart, with even a Sweet-Tart characteristic, and cherries, the tart kind. A bit vinous.

T- Cherries (sweet) and alcohol to start. Then the sour kicks in a rules the day. Maybe a hint of green apple. Dry. Very interesting flavor profiles, with perhaps even a milky aftertaste. I'm into it.

M- Smooth and medium-bodied, with a wine-like taste on swallow. Some dryness in afterfeel.

O- I really like this one. I'm new to the style so maybe that's part of it, but I'm pleased.

Serving type: bottle

06-26-2012 20:52:39 | More by imasloth
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StonedTrippin

Colorado

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

totally different than any other flemish red ive had. pours a little redder than copper, with a touch of haze and a one inch tan head that has nice patchy retention. smells smokey, familiar but i dont know how. also lots of tart cherries in the nose. yeasty too. flavor is so weird, earthy, but its got a beef jerkey sort of flavor that comes from the aroma. hard to describe really, any cherry or brett flavors take a back seat to that beefy meaty smoke flavor. i dont dislike it, but its really different. feel is good, well carbonated with a medium body at the most. a 750ml is a lot of this beer, but it works for me i guess. worth a try for its distinct aromatic and flavor profile, but dont come in expecting a traditional flemish sour.

Serving type: bottle

06-02-2012 18:19:37 | More by StonedTrippin
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chugalug06

Colorado

3.73/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Huge fluffy tan/pinkish head. Brew is wonderful clear red color. Mild lacing.

Awesome huge sour cherry nose. Mild sulfur scent on the back end.

Obviously cherry, but on the lighter side. Not nearly as tart as the nose would lead you to believe... Kinda disappointing. Wet and nicely carbonated.

Not as sour as I hoped... Recommended, but don't go in expecting too much.

Serving type: bottle

04-24-2012 00:09:01 | More by chugalug06
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superspak

Michigan

4.38/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours hazy reddish brown color with a nice 1-2 finger dense khaki head with great retention that reduces to a nice cap that lasts. Some nice soapy lacing on the glass as well. Aromas of big tart cherry, cherry skin, apple, cranberry, earthiness, funk, grass, oak, light acidity, and yeast spices. Nice and well balanced aromas with good complexity. Taste of tart cherry, cherry skin, apple, cranberry, pepper, earth, grass, light vinegar, oak, and yeast spices. Light tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of tart cherry, apple, cranberry, pepper, and yeast spices on the finish for a bit. Nice tart and sweet flavor balance and complexity; with cherry sweetness being more prominent. Medium carbonation and body; with a fairly slick and syrupy mouthfeel as expected. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming after the finish. Very smooth to drink but is a bit of a sipper. Overall this is a fantastic, very pleasant, and enjoyable Flanders red ale. Nice complexity and balance; and very smooth to drink. I had no trouble finishing the 750.

Serving type: bottle

04-18-2012 03:37:06 | More by superspak
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kojevergas

Texas

3.5/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap over a cork served into a Guinness goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high given the style and to an extent the brewery. I know Mikkeller brews at De Proef a lot, and I'm quite fond of his work, but I do think that this brewery might be a bit too scientific and clinical to pull off a proper sour.

Served refrigerator cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of some limited cream, pretty good thickness, and great retention for the above average ABV. Colour is nontransparent non-opaque caramel-red. Generally appealing, but far from ideal for the style. No floating yeast particles are visible - perhaps due to the nontransparency.

Sm: Brett yeast - lending it some complex funkiness, other yeast, some cream, hints of bacteria, and tart fruit. A moderate strength aroma. Both complex and subtle. I'm excited to try it; it's certainly alive. I'm hoping the taste lives up to the promise of the aroma.

T: Pleasant cream opens it up to the nicely brett-laden flavour profile, complete with bacteria, tart cherry, and yeasty notes that manage to add complexity and a light spicy character without feeling overly biscuity. Cream resurges on the climax. The cherry juice might mute the profile a bit; it feels a bit timid. No alcohol comes through - not a bad feat given the 7.00% ABV. Balanced nicely. I'd like it to trust its flavours more and really bring the boldness, but it's pretty mellow - to its detriment. Complex, layered, and subtle. The malts don't come through hardly at all even as an aspect of the foundation, which I think is to its benefit but also lends it a certain emptiness that detracts from the body; consequently it comes off a bit weak and not nearly as full-bodied as I'd like.

Mf: Light on the palate, delicate, and silky smooth, with some cream throughout as an undertone. Perfectly carbonated. It's thin, but this strangely works for the beer. That said, it just doesn't have a strong impact on the palate, a characteristic amplified by its weak body.

Dr: Very drinkable, especially for the relatively high ABV. I could easily drink this all night - and would want to, if not for the somewhat limited quality and high price. I had high hopes for this beer and while it didn't meet them, I wouldn't call it a disappointment. I wouldn't purchase it again without some age on it, but I might recommend it to fans of this specific style. As sours go, it's far from exemplary.

Drank fine out of me goblet.

Would pair well with a vinaigrette black olive salad.

High B-

Serving type: bottle

04-10-2012 07:15:52 | More by kojevergas
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UCLABrewN84

California

3.98/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a murky brown with a 3 inch foamy beige head that settles to a craggy cap on top of the beer. A foamy latticework of lace coats the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt/grain, earthy yeast, funk, and some sour cherry aromas. Taste is of sour cherry and mild Brett funk up front with some earthy grain flavors on the finish. This beer lives up to its name and is indeed sweet and sour at the same time. There is a lower level of carbonation with only a slight crispness. Overall, this is a good beer that is quite tasty and easy to drink.

Serving type: bottle

04-04-2012 02:10:52 | More by UCLABrewN84
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mlazzaro

Massachusetts

3.55/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Hazed rose hued body with fluffy white head. Decent head retention. Somewhat larger sized bubbles here and there and very bizarre looking lacing. Yeast at bottom of bottle. Light on carbonation. Smells like cherries (sweet). Slight lactic yeast/bacteria to the smell. Mild aroma.

Flavor is very fruity. Cherry juice is still a touch sweet. Tastes very young. It does have a sourness to it, distinctly Brett. flavors. Super mild though. Malt character is light, what is there is caramelized malts. Bitterness is suiting to the rest of the beer. As advertized sweet and sour flavor. Mouthfeel is mild on acidity and light-medium bodied.

I was a little disappointed at first because I like outrageously sour beers. This is way drinkable, just very tame for my palate. Might be a good beer for folks gettin' their toes wet with sour beers.

Serving type: bottle

03-14-2012 01:18:35 | More by mlazzaro
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vobr0002

Minnesota

3.7/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- reddish brown with good head that fades quickly.

S- sour cherry, Brett funkyness, some sweetness.

T- cherry fruit flavor, little bit of sourness, getting a slight amount of sweet.

M- lighter feel with a medium amount of carbonation.

O- its a decent beer but I like a bit more sour.

Serving type: bottle

03-13-2012 02:51:12 | More by vobr0002
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TVolt1

Minnesota

3.7/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: reddish brown with small amount of white head.

S: Great cherry wine smell. Very sweet and sour and excited to try it.

T: OK taste. Little funky tasting with a cherry flavor. Wanted it a little crisper and sour.

M: OK medium mouth feel but not as bubbly/crisp as I would like

O: overall, I have had better but not terrible.

Serving type: bottle

03-13-2012 02:48:23 | More by TVolt1
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DavoleBomb

Ohio

3.65/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a tulip. 2012 vintage. Lovin' the classy synthetic cork.

4.5 A: Hazed plum color. Three fingers of pillowy pinkish tinted white head. Retention is very good and tons of lacing is left.

4.0 S: Holy shit! This is now the second beer I've had that smells just like Pez candy. The other one was a winter warmer. There's some funk underneath, but this is dominated by the Pez. No need to describe this any further.

3.5 T: While the nose was straigh up Pez, the taste is like Pez flavored beeer. Pez dominates giving a pleasant fruity, sugary sweetness. There's much more funk than in the nose. Barnyard notes with apple and apple orchard funk. Definitely more sweet than sour. There's just a touch of acetic with more lactic acid presenting. In any case, not bad.

3.5 M: Lighter to lighter medium body. Carbonation level is fine, but it's not as spritzy or as creamy as I'd like.

3.5 D: Decent beer. Nothing to write home about though. It costs about as much as Rodenbach, though, so I don't see a reason to buy this one again.

Serving type: bottle

02-27-2012 22:21:39 | More by DavoleBomb
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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 272 ratings.