Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Reviews: 194
Hads: 327
rAvg: 3.95
pDev: 10.63%
Wants: 30
Gots: 27 | FT: 1
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004

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Reviews: 194 | Hads: 327
Photo of sokol_1993
3.59/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

- Red-brown color, some head
- Tartness, and somehow I smelled paté inside...
- Tartness on the tongue, and then some taste of paté... But then more tartness kick in, and some alcohol.
- Not as good as Rodenbach, interesting nevertheless. (241 characters)

Photo of xmorgan
4.1/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

750ml Bottle form Bev-Mo.

Poured into chalice, 1 inch white head, that does not completly go away. Leaves some foamy lacing. Color is Brownish red, more brown then red. The head remains similar to a stout, in the sense that it's color and ability to hang around.

Has a lambic-like acidic fruit nose.

the taste is much more complex then the nose.

It is sour and fruity, with a not to dry after taste. If you aerate the beer in your mouth, it really releases the CO2.

It would do well as a beer to server with medium to strong cheese.

I would buy it again, to share. I polished the 750 myself and was not sorry. (616 characters)

Photo of rxdrewthejew
4.5/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at La Trappe in San Francisco.

A: Mellow red color, not a dark amber red, more of a burgundy. Head was reddish-tan and nice and fluffy.

S: Smells of sourness, mostly cherries, with a bit of funk.

T: Opens pretty sweet, cherry and fruity sugar, but then the sourness hits. Not overly sour, to be honest, but enough to make it clear that it's a sour beer. A bit of earthiness and a very dry finish.

MF: Pretty smooth, only just a bit of carbonation, but that's ok by me. The sourness and dry finish give it a nice feel and make it a good sipping beer. Not much warming and the alcohol didn't really hit that hard. Fairly light beer overall.

D: A really good sour offering, though I don't have much to compare it too. The only other in this style I've had is NB's La Folie, and this beer was much less sour and more drinkable. Light and smooth, I could easily have had another glass or two. Great stuff. (913 characters)

Photo of CPeterson
3.83/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A - - A hazy, opaque rusty brew pours to a single finger head that settles to leave small gobs of lacing.

S - - Earthy wooden tones, acid, cherry notes accompanied by a hint of funk.

T - - A mild sourness is quickly balanced by the wood and cherry sweetness. Touches of pepper and a hint of clove on the finish.

M - - Soft carbonation, medium bodied, almost a little thin. Leaves a residual schmuck in your chops that isn't unpleasant but given the sourness level I wouldn't have expected.

O - - A nicely balanced and minor twist on a classic style, but not altogether mind blowing. Worth a try, I'd pick it up again for a refresher. (638 characters)

Photo of imasloth
4.2/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Bright red with a large, quickly dissipating white head. Barely a peep when we pulled the cork but carbonation was certainly there. fine, but quickly disappearing lacing.

S- Tart, with even a Sweet-Tart characteristic, and cherries, the tart kind. A bit vinous.

T- Cherries (sweet) and alcohol to start. Then the sour kicks in a rules the day. Maybe a hint of green apple. Dry. Very interesting flavor profiles, with perhaps even a milky aftertaste. I'm into it.

M- Smooth and medium-bodied, with a wine-like taste on swallow. Some dryness in afterfeel.

O- I really like this one. I'm new to the style so maybe that's part of it, but I'm pleased. (653 characters)

Photo of bowersdm
3.07/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

750mL faux-corked and caged bottle, a portion of which was poured into a 22oz brandy snifter.

A - pours the color of tea with some reddish hues. it's hard to describe it because I'm not big into art. i'll go with ruby/brown. a head that was just barely bigger than 0cm formed. not enough to determine the color effectively.

S - strawberry banana yogurt, lactic acid, sour cherries, strawberries, leather, musty attic

T - when i first tried this beer, I though it was sweet and sour at the same time, which would seem to go against the style. (I thought my palate was messing with me.) After looking through a few reviews I realized that it is indeed sweet and sour, so here goes: tart lactic acid (subtle) and fruit (cherries, strawberries, grapes, cranberries) that starts out sweet but then starts to go sour. the finish is of...hops? at least, it's a slightly citrus-zest like finish, so I'm going to guess hops. there was a musty attic/leather flavor throughout, but it became more prominent in the finish. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but this beer seems more like an oud Bruin than a Red Ale.

M - pretty thin body. adequately carbonated. it was like drinking flat seltzer water

D - definitely not worth the $10.99 per bottle considered that Duchesse de Bourgogne was the same price. I feel constantly let down by this style because Duchesse was the first one that I tried and I'm always expecting that level of acetic acid character. This isn't your typical Flanders Red because it's sweet, while also being sour. If you're interested in the style, try this, but otherwise, don't waste your money. Buy some Duchesse de Bourgogne instead. (1,655 characters)

Photo of wchesak
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into spiegelau tulip glass

A - see through more red than brown amber color, head is khaki with a slight pink tinge, very rocky meringue like head, leaves lots of long trails of lace

S - red wine vinegar soaked cherries, some barnyard like funk in the back, vanilla, cherry cough syrup

T - sweet then sour then sweet then sour - jesus what a transition across the palette - each one is cherry but its different manifestation changes it; more vanilla is seen in this flavor; slight funky/sour aftertaste, bit medicinal

M - smooth, almost velvety, perfect carbonation for the style - plenty of bubbles, even though the pop on the cork was minimal

D - after pouring I knew I was going to really enjoy this beer, had a moment a few years ago when i got big into sours/oud bruins/etc and this beer might have restarted it - will seek out the Cantillons and Drie Fonteinens of the world (892 characters)

Photo of jakon
4.47/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle purchased for $9.99 at Orenco New Seasons.

Pours a reddish hue with a nice pillow of a head. Smells funky with brettanomyces and sour fruit notes. Man, I can tell I'm in for a treat. The taste doesn't disappoint. Mildly sour, with an incredibly complex overall flavor profile. I can pick out cherries and granny smith apples. And the brett. The rest remains a mystery. It finishes clean and dry, and leaves a pleasant aftertaste. This is a well crafted brew that I could drink anytime or anywhere. I could session this, or have it as a dessert, or a nightcap, or even pair it with a whole host of foodstuffs. I just hope there are a few more of these on the shelf. (681 characters)

Photo of TVolt1
3.74/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: reddish brown with small amount of white head.

S: Great cherry wine smell. Very sweet and sour and excited to try it.

T: OK taste. Little funky tasting with a cherry flavor. Wanted it a little crisper and sour.

M: OK medium mouth feel but not as bubbly/crisp as I would like

O: overall, I have had better but not terrible. (329 characters)

Photo of atremains
4.5/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark red with a light eggnog colored head. Reduces to a thick pacing. Very full.
Cherry funk and a ton of citrus zest. Apple
Taste goes cherry-sour/funk-malt-cherry. Big cherry taste. Very smooth. The sour become more intense over time.
Very drinkable sour. Great balance (273 characters)

Photo of WickedSluggy
4.17/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice garnet color is dark enough to make clarity difficult to determine. A thin pale foam layer remains to form sparce lacing.

Aroma is a combination of that familiar bretty, winey beauquet along with the unmistakable aroma of sour cherries.

Flavor is drier than I expected. Not extreamly sour either but a nice refreshing combination of the two base flavors - Quite refreshing very drinkable with a supple mouthfeel that invites another retained swishing mouthful. (467 characters)

Photo of mj001jk
4.82/5  rDev +22%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy amber with reddish tones. Thick and creamy head of foam which persists, leaving an aromatic carpet of foam which jumps with citrus, cherries and bourbon. The hops cut the crisp maltiness with its subtle character and it is all freshness, very vibrant and joyful. I am really getting into the nose here...give me a minute or three...

Perfect carbonation and mouthfeel, a vibrant yet substantial character which slowly releases sweetness and dried fruit as it subsides. Dried apricot, sour cherries and ripe apples dominate the finish. The sourness accentuates but doesn't overpower, just like the champagne-like dryness; it is a tightrope act of finesse and balance, much appreciated by a novice to the world of sour beers. This one takes the cake for me.

I ended up pouring some into my 5gl batch of Kriek fermenting away in the bathroom. It is going to end up quite the potpourri. (897 characters)

Photo of bkett01
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours with a quarter inch cream/white head over a dark ruby red ale. Appearance is very enticing and it is well carbonated. The smell is tart with with cherries and a mild funk in the nose.

First taste is very lively with a big sour cherry-fig start that finishes mildly sweet on the tongue. Tough to touch on all the flavors in this but I'm also getting other dark fruits with no bitterness.

At 7% this is very drinkable, at least until you can't take the sour flavors anymore. Great example of the style, and one I'd recommend giving a try. (546 characters)

Photo of chefkevlar
4.13/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a ruby red color with a thick layer of finely textured peach colored head.

S: The cherry is present in the aroma, along with hints of honey, spice, and a little bit of belgian funk.

T: The flavor is complex, with a slight tartness to balance out some sweet fruit flavors. Overall the flavor is slightly less bold than I expected, but it is exceptional.

M: Medium to light body with plenty of carbonation and

D: Not something that can be downed quickly but definately a very enjoyable beverage. (508 characters)

Photo of fairdinkum2
3.79/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a large bottle in to a tulip glass. This Flemish ale is a very murky brown, almost muddy appearance with some particulates evident in the bottom of the glass. What little head quickly disappeared. No lacing to speak of.

Smells pretty typical of the style, sour cherries and apples.

Taste is a litlle disappointing. Doesn't have the tang of a Rodenbach or quite the pucker of La Folie. Has some cherry and sour fruit notes, but overall the taste profile is just a little flat. Low carbonation, so this is pretty easy to put away, but I probably would look at other choices. (586 characters)

Photo of TheNapkin
3.97/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Amber, almost a light soda color. Very thin head, visible effervescence, dark sedimentation that sifts to the bottom of the glass.

S: Sour raspberries, whiffs of cider, sniff of red grapes. Sort of like Lindemann Framboise's lighter brother (smell is not nearly as intensely jammy as Lindemann's Framboise). Slightly metallic, coppery smell if you're not careful and pour too big a head.

T: Same as the smell, but just a notch sweeter. It should be noted that even though the beer tastes sour, vaguely lambic-like, and has strong raspberry notes, it doesn't deliver the overwhelming sugar bomb that certain fruit-fortified lambics do. This beer serves as a nice substitute for those who find these lambics thick, cloying and hardly satisfying when you want a beer that tastes like a beer (it's also cheaper than a lot of lambics too; bargain, Win!). If you want a beer masquerading as a soda, reach for a Lindemann's; if you want a beer that tastes like a beer, has hints of fruit, and moderate sourness, get this De Proef. It has a nice dryness on the front of the tongue and the back and would pair nicely with foods you'd normally drink a dry white wine with.

M: Light and bubbly on the tongue. A real treat.

D: In terms of De Proef beers, the funk element here is hardly detectable, which makes the beer very drinkable. Good balance of sourness and the malts. (1,370 characters)

Photo of SeattleAdam
2.7/5  rDev -31.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A- Finger of off white head. Red at bottom of glass and gets lighter towards the top. The rocky head dissipates just a bit and clears way for bubbles.

S- Grape soda, rasberry jam, sour, fruity lambic.

T- Hoppy burn but sour. Hits back of tounge and washes/settles to the front. Kind of a backwards effect! Very fizzy and grape. This beer will hit your nose as much as your mouth. Tastes like acidic, citrus fruit juices after brushing your teeth. Very interesting but not too pleasant.

M- I think this is a little too carbonated...to the point of fizzy. This settles in the weirdest, backwards way. Thin mouth feel.

D- I don't think I will be purchasing this again. It's drinkable in the sense that you can't taste any booze at all but it's not drinkable in the sense that it's fizzy and too acidic. (803 characters)

Photo of BBeerL
4.85/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the most complete Flanders Red Ales I have had the pleasure of trying. In my experience arfter a bottle of some red ales my mouth is left a sour puckering mess. Not with this guy. It has a full rich body( for a flanders) to go with the dry sour taste. I truely loved this beer. (284 characters)

Photo of BrauKilR
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Aroma: The funk of lambic complexity, with its notes of rhubarb and oak, leaning in this case toward vinegar/acetic. Dark cherry and malt sweetness. Vanilla. Oak. Spiciness which dissipates relatively quickly with time. No diacetyl. No hops.

Appearance: Clear, medium amber with an off-white, creamy head that persists as a creamy film and laces the glass – a Mort Subite goblet for this tasting. I expect this head may last till morning if I left it.

Flavor: Prominent – though short of bold -- fruit flavors of plum and cherry, toasty-bready malt sweetness, all accompanied by a complimentary sourness/tartness. Hints of vanilla which I presume to echo its time in oak. Bitterness is low and there is no hop flavor. Yeast character is expressed in the spicy, “Belgian” –type phenolics and dark fruit character. The long finish is sweet and tart with a red wine-like character, yet less astringent.

Mouthfeel: Medium leaning toward medium-full bodied. Chewy, creamy texture with a mild, tingly astringency. Mild carbonation to lift it, followed by a noticeable but unobtrusive alcohol warming on the way down.


Overall: A slightly fuller bodied, less spritzy-assertive version of Flanders Red than Duchesse De Bourgogne, which I consider the cranberry soda of the beer world. Very drinkable, but not quite as sour as I anticipated, which is not a knock; this is well within style. I do live very close to the Jolly Pumpkin, however, and anticipate more than a complimentary sourness in sour ales as a result. This might be a good launching point for anyone wanting to be introduced to the sour ale category. (1,623 characters)

Photo of dza360
4.49/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a muddy opaque copper, thin white head lingers throughout the glass.

Smell immediately leaves a sour and musty funk impression which leaves my mouth watering. Beyond the initial funk is some earthy and metallic notes.

The beer tastes outstanding... having tried 3 or 4 different takes on the style this one stands out as the most balanced I have come across. The sour is present for sure, but it has so much more to offer compared to the other examples of the style I have tried. Their is a distinct dryness coupled with a green apple bite like you might find in a white wine. Nothing is overbearing and I am just enjoying the bottle more and more as it warms. The carbonation is moderate to low and just fine for this brew.

I would rate the drink ability high for this style because of the great balance achieved. With other sours I have had a hard time finishing a bottle, but this one keeps me wanting more.

Can't say enough about how much I admire this brew from a fine brewery. De Proef has been a great find for me so far and this brew is at the top of the list. (1,079 characters)

Photo of socalde
4.45/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a bottle of this at Stone Sour Fest '09. I would highly recommend this beer to friends and connoisseurs alike.

A- Cloudy, dark tan in color. No residual head, but poured a beautiful white marshmallow.

S- Slightly tart smelling, obvious acidity with notes of fruit (cranberry?). It has a some other notes that I couldn't quite identify, giving the beer a kind of mysterious quality.

T- Very tart and a tantalizing punch of sour. However, nothing overpowers. This beer had an earthy feel and taste to it, with light but noticeable hop bitterness and a subtle fruity characteristic, something like the cranberries I detected in the nose. A very tasty beer indeed!

M- Consistent mouthfeel, a great example of the Flanders Red style.

D- Very drinkable considering the style. (784 characters)

Photo of sablephish
4.65/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had a recent session at Brouwers in Seattle, on my way to hop selection in Yakima . . .
I started with this bottle as a palate warmer upper (firing up the senses). I was extraordinarily impressed. I'd liken myself as to being a duchesse kind of guy, verses Rodenbach (both ends of the spectrum . . . sweet - - > sour. But this was perfectly in the middle, with extraordinary dark fruit notes in the aroma that were very sweet, and yet the good old brett flavour of sultry sourness in flavour. This was a wonderful pairing of aroma and flavour. Of course the mouthfeel was clean and crisp, a perfectly refreshing flemish red, no tnearly the mouthblasters that I'm used to.
A perfect paring with pears, dark blue cheese, and madjool dates, not all that particular order . . . if only brouwers would cater to my own selfish appetizing needs on the next run. (860 characters)

Photo of samiam32
3.08/5  rDev -22%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

750mL

A: Really looks great with Red notes. The amber color really makes this look appetizing.

S: I'd say "good". Although it reminds me a little of the wine at some Methodist churches I've attended, it does have pleasant cherry/grape/dark fruit aroma.

T: I thought I'd really enjoy this until it got to my mouth. The cherries are pleasant, but not really that spectacular. A bit dull with no pop. In (American) football terms, it was very Ryan Leaf.

M: Little carbonation and has the resemblance of wine. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy wine, but letting it get around my mouth added little to nothing to the experience. It almost tasted better if you just let it go right down and enjoy the aftertaste.

D: My friends tried half the bottle and quit. I'm struggling to finish up here, and thought, "I have some time to go back and write the review." -- Something I don't normally do with the great ones. (904 characters)

Photo of Aggy360
2.88/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy reddish brown with nice beige head. Leaves a light web-like lace on the glass

A: Slightly sour aroma. Sweet peaches and some bacteria (Lacto & Brett, I believe).

T: Tart. Sweet malts, and it seem like there is some wheaty flavors. Very mild sour cherries and some peaches.

M: Medium light body. Dry finish.

O: A well balenced Fanders Red. Easy drinker for the style, there are other sour ales that will blow it away on the pucker rating. As the beer warms more complexities come through. I would recommend this to someone who has not tried a sour ale, before introducing them to more "in-your-face" sour beers. (631 characters)

Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 194 ratings.