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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

306 Ratings
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Ratings: 306
Reviews: 192
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 13.55%
Wants: 27
Gots: 21 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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Photo of DavidST
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle into a goblet, not quite sure the bottled date, there might be a coded bottle date on the bottle (maybe bottled 5/12?).

This pours a hazy, slighty yeast dregs tea brown with a small short lived tan head which doesn't leave a lacing. The smells are slighly funky, a nice mixture of sweet cherries and barnyard funk from brett, a slight vinegar smell. The feel is medium, okay carbonination. The taste is slightly sweet up front followed by a very strong earthy funky brett taste, with a little bit of sourness, more of a sweet and funk than a sweet and sour, nice though.

Photo of jeffjeff1
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My wife picked this up today.

Appearance- dark red color, thick foamy head

Smell- cherry, spice

Taste- cherry, spice

Mouthfeel- light to medium bodied, very nice

Drinkability- pretty good, I like it. I would definitely like to have it again. Very nice

Photo of zaphodchak
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark amber body with 2 finger off-white head that laces like a champ.

Nose is very faint-- tart/vegetal, but faintly metallic... not too objectionable, but still.

Taste is interesting; sweet at first growing sour towards the middle. Faint bell pepper. There's kind of a sticky aftertaste (slightly sweet and sour), but this is not too objectionable.

Mouthfeel is creamy enough to undercut what would otherwise be a bitter lemonade taste. Nice.

Overall, a good example of a style for the Flemish sour. Not as sour as Dutchess or Monk's Cafe, nor as vegetal as Bourgogne de Flandres: a very effective compromise

Photo of czfreeman
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I was very excited to try this beer. I had been meaning to pick one up for a long time, drank it with one of my best friends last night..what a great biere!
This tart cherry treat pours out a deep copper penny-reddish color, capped by a nice two finger light red-tan head. Leaves lovely amounts of sticky lacing arount the chalice. Perfect intitial presentation of a Flanders Red.
Aromas explode into a face-full of cherries,Granny Smith apples,sweet-n-sour black cherries,Brett yeast, lactic acidity, musty oaks, muscadines. WoW!
De Proef translates into "tasting" in Flemish and this beer lives up to the brewmasters moniker and raises it to new standards. Flavors pop..vibrant tart cherries, pomegranite, green apples, something like unsweetened welches grape juice balanced by a perfected amount of yeast smoothness. The prevaling tartness, married with funky yeastiness makes it hard to sip on this glass of mouth-watering goodness. Damn this is a fine Bier!
Mouthfeel was smooth, tart yet balanced. drinkablity is limited only by the amount of liquid in the bottle, when its gone, you just want more.

Photo of halo913
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of Jonada
3.7/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

750ml bottle with no freshness date poured into a wine glass

Appearance: Pours a red brown color typical to the style. Standard pour yielded 2 fingers of a light beige head with moderate spotty lacing. Body is dark but relatively clear with moderate visible carbonation.

Smell: Balsamic vinegar, sweet cherry juice, light funkiness, apple and a slight lactic character. There's a sugary candy character to the aroma as well, almost like cherry pixie sticks.

Taste: Sweet and sour cherry, vinegar, oak, darker fruit, decent amount of maltiness. Sourness is on the low end.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with medium soft carbonation. Reasonably high drinkability.

Overall: Not extremely memorable, but still a good beer. Not sure that I would get this again, but would recommend as a good beginner beer for someone new to sours.

Photo of bishopdc0
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of Zraly
4.01/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours brown with tinges of ruby and purple. Smells fruity and sour like lemon yogurt. Used a Teku glass for sampling.

Sour cherry note predominates. The sourness is a bit on the mild side but it makes for a very friendly beer. Hints of clove and black pepper linger toward the finish. Given the sweet and sour nature, this finishes quite dry. Medium-light in body. Carbonation could be a touch more heightened to liven up the mouthfeel a bit more. But as it stands, it is a nice food beer. We enjoyed vegetarian stir-fry noodles and it complimented but cut through the soy flavor nicely.

Photo of PeteRiz
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of philipquarles
3.78/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy dark mahogany with red tinges. A large off-white head gives way to a half-finger of foam and a lot of lacing after a while. That signature Brett smell hits immediately, with all of its usual sour, musty character; the sour cherries only come through afterward, though they are quite strong. The funk dominates the taste as well, with citric sourness and leather both prominent. A hint of chocolaty roasted malt comes next, with the real cherry taste only evident after a few sips. A definite woodiness in the background. Another great beer from the Proefbrouwerij.

Photo of elec
4/5  rDev +2.3%

Photo of Neffbeer
5/5  rDev +27.9%

Photo of heytomcat
3/5  rDev -23.3%

Photo of ZethOfTheNorth
3.25/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of SurlyDuff
4.35/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Caged&Corked 750 with a real solid pop.

First pour was a bit cold, but I warmed the glass in my hands.

Rich redddish brown and a bit watery when poured. Monster beige head thanks to a bad pour.

Musty wood, vinegar apples and underripe fruit, most notably cherries and pear. Good earthy spice. If anything, just a tad bit too vinegar.

Incredibly drinkable woody and earthy tartness. THe vinegar is subsided in the taste. Good brett presence gives it a rather saison bandaidy flavor. Good smooth creamy soft body. A fine flanders!

Photo of madtowndmb1
3.35/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This poured the classic mahogany color with almost no head and a little fizz rising up. The smell was nice, mildly fruity with a dry hint in there. The taste was lacking in my opinion. Not much depth, the up front kriek was there from them adding "cherry juice", but no dryness to back it up. It was drinkable but I probably wouldn't go after it again. Monk's Cafe is a decent amount better as an entry in to the style for some.

Photo of djeucalyptus
4.13/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours a hazy yet glowing mahogany and cherry juice hue, with caramel and gold highlights. A beautiful fluffy three-finger head of a cherry-tinged off-white sticks around for a good while, eventually leaving some impressive lacing to the bottom of the glass.

Cherries, a bit of funky and spicy yeast, apples, a bit of golden raspberry and muscat grape. a bit more barnyard spice and a bit of fresh oak and earthiness, mixing with some caramelized cherries. smells intoxicating.

Taste follows aroma for the most part, with the brett funk and sour cherry notes showing strongly up front. A citric tartness and vanilla-oak woodiness smooth out the fruit. muscat grapes, a hint of white port, and more wet straw and earthiness. sour, almost unripe acidic raspberry sourness intermingles with more woody drying cherry notes.

mouthfeel is clean, especially given the accompanying funky flavors. a crisp, woody drying throughout with a nice dry tart finish. Silky and smooth, it's a hair lighter than I'd prefer... a bit thicker/fuller/slightly higher carbonation and this would be absolutely perfect.

the smoothness in the mouthfeel creates a pretty palatable brew with good drinkability for the style... but like any Flanders, this one's a sipper. A bit heavy on the funk, but the strength of the cherry notes really wins me over and the perfectly drying body with just a slight warming quality works beautifully. Definitely a must try.

Photo of paulthebeerguru
4.28/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: pours an opaque pale ruby color. light tan head. outstanding head retention. huge curtain lacing.

S: sour cherries, light citrus, major tartness. a little sugary. light berries as well.

T: very interesting palate. apples, cherries, a light amount of citrus. starts off very sweet, then turns to sours rapidly. light hint of spices. some caramel.

M: solid carbonation level, a little bubbly. wonderful opposite mouthfeels with the sweet and sour tartness. medium bodied.
very smooth and mellow for the style.

Photo of bradfordjohnson
4.25/5  rDev +8.7%

Photo of giblet
4.05/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

i had a hard time figuring out the label. i did not have a hard time drinking the beer. poured a nicely into the glass with about three inches of head that settled to about one and a half inches. steady carbonation. nice sweet-sour aroma. nice sour flavor of sour sweet apple. nice tingle in the mouth. good lace in the glass. this is a downright tasty brew.

suckem up and movem out.

giblet

Photo of Goldorak
3.73/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Dark amber brew, with a thin layer of miniscule bubbles woven together to form the head.

Smell: A sweeter shade of horseblanket, it was caramel/candi sugar sweet and reminded me of a Faro.

Taste: Lots of caramel again in the taste, some red fruits as well, with an interesting balance of sweet and sour mnemonic of New Glarus Belgian red. The low carbonation brings out the sweetened malt that bursted with cherries. Very low alcohol. May be a little too cloying for some, I enjoyed it.

Photo of Canti4341
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of SeaAle
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of shbobdb
3.38/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

After experiencing some members of the Flemish Primitive series, I was expecting this beer to be funky-as-hell.

Raised expectations caused the French Revolution.

I guess my problem is that when I think 'Flanders Red' I think of Rodenbach Grand Cru and La Folie -- two incredibly acidic, nail-polish remover-like beers as opposed to the softer offerings such as Monk Cafe and Duchess. This beer definately belongs to the latter catagory.

Why is that bad? Well, the Flanders Red is supposed to be a very quaffable, thirst-quenching style but this beer sits in an awkward sweet-sour area. There is enough malt flavour present to be sweet and not enough acid to create a crisp, clean finish. So, instead you get a wishy-washy undecided ending to the beer that lingers and lingers.

Neither the malt nor the acid managed to really find a quorum and instead the beer sits in an strange limbo between the two. Perhaps if some hops were included to help balance out the fight, or if one side were simply allowed to 'win' that would be OK.

I like sour beers, I like sweet beers . . . but this half-and-half isn't to my liking.

To make matters worse, the mouthfeel is strangely cloying, so I can't really even say this beer is an easy drinker.

Photo of lpotter
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
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