Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Zoetzuur Flemish AleZoetzuur Flemish Ale

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Reviews: 193
Hads: 331
Avg: 3.94
pDev: 17.26%
Wants: 30
Gots: 29 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004

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Photo of stumac
4.33/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Quote of the night:

"You just can't beat a Thai prostitute at Connect Four." my buddy Rob

this brew pours a murky amber color with a decent off white head. great lacing all down my glass. the nose is sour, cherries, subtle malt. the taste is sour! fruits, complete tartness, cherries. full bodied, low carbo, sweet finish

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Photo of BeerZack
4.15/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark caramel or mahogany color with nice foamy covering that laces well.

Smells sweet and tart with alcohol notes. Very fruity fresh tart cherries, raspberries, cranberry, breadiness, a bit of funk and some alcohol.

Sweet and fruity up front with a good bit of tartness and some hints of vinegar that leads to funky earthy yeastiness on the dryish puckering finish.

Somewhat acidic, light carbonation, but not flat feeling, kinda creamy.

Very drinkable for the stlye.

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Photo of Darkale
4.25/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Odd to see myself drinking a Flanders Red Ale; when I first got into good beer, I thought beers like this were little more than carbonated vinegar, but I find myself enjoying this brew quite a bit.

The beer is a beautiful murky deep reddish-butterscotch orange, with a thin layer of tan head and spotty lacing.

Aroma is musty, sour, but only a hint of vinegar, just a tad sharp and acidic.

I can taste sour apple, more vinegar, but a round creamy background keeps it in check. Excellent mouthfeel - creamy and sweet against the sour.

A fun beer to drink -- interesting and different. Perhaps not as radically funky and sour as some are used to, but a good introduction to sour beers for the relatively uninitiated, and a pleasant sipper for an evening.

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Photo of roadhouse
4.03/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750 ml bottle shared with my girlfriend into a tulip glass.

Appears a dark reddish brown, more red-orange behind some light with a two inch off-white head. Leaves lots of lace on the glass.

Aroma is initial a bit sweet with lots of tart cherries. Some subtle bubble gum esters and a bit of woodiness. Sourness is pretty subtle and not overly vinegary like some.

Taste its more of the cherries, a bit of bubble gum esters still present along with a general fruitiness. Gets more tart through the swallow but never gets to be sour. Finishes lightly woody and dry.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, smooth and well rounded. A bit slick.

Pretty good overall but not nearly as good as Rodenbach Grand Cru. Quite enjoyable and not too sour. A good intro to funky beers.

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Photo of BradLikesBrew
4/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: Hazy orange/brown body with a cream colored head.

s: Big sour cherry notes.

t: A surprise here: the aroma is cherry, but the flavor is sour apple and peach, odd. More sweet than sour, but still plenty of mouth-puckering goodness to provide some "balance."

m: A wonderful, lightly astringent pucker.

d: I've said it before, I'll say it again: I love sour beers.

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Photo of DefenCorps
3.71/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

25.4oz bottle picked up at the Village Pump in College Park a while back. Into my trusty Duvel tulip

A: The first pour is a gorgeous clear crimson with a dense beige head with excellent retention that leaves some lacing as it slowly recedes

S: Sweet and fruity (cherries) with a good deal of bready notes. Doesn't smell very sour at all. Oak is subtle. Not very complex.

T: Light bodied, this beer starts off with fruity with cherries and red plums before developing a mild acetic sourness. Oak is present with a definite woody presence. The finish is a mixture of dry and sweet.

M: Carbonation is great and the mildly tart finish make for a very refreshing beer. Unfortunately, it's a little watery on the finish.

D: This is fairly drinkable and I'm enjoying this.

Notes: This is a good beer in its own right but in the past two weeks, I've had decidedly better beers, the Ommengang Rouge and Rodenbach Grand Cru. This doesn't stack up too well against them, though.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.04/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ml bottle $9.99. Nice red color with almost no head. It smells great, cherries, sour some muddy vinegar. The taste is indeed sweet-sour but leans toward neither side. It is just barely sweet and barely sour, good balance. Nice cherry note, reminds me a tad of Jolly Pumpkin biere de mars. This was money well spent.

Update 12/2012

Grainy flavor, iron and blood, sort of ugly smell. Not sure if this changed in recipe since I had it several years back but this bottle sucked bad.

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Photo of rye726
4.4/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Nice reddish brown color with a creamy tan head. The nose has tart fruits, ripe berries and musky barnyard wood. The taste is similar. Perhaps not as potent as other red's, but has a nice balance between sweet malts, tart citrus and oaky funk. Crisp body suits ale well. A superb brew and my new favorite from DeProef.

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Photo of SurlyDuff
4.34/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Caged&Corked 750 with a real solid pop.

First pour was a bit cold, but I warmed the glass in my hands.

Rich redddish brown and a bit watery when poured. Monster beige head thanks to a bad pour.

Musty wood, vinegar apples and underripe fruit, most notably cherries and pear. Good earthy spice. If anything, just a tad bit too vinegar.

Incredibly drinkable woody and earthy tartness. THe vinegar is subsided in the taste. Good brett presence gives it a rather saison bandaidy flavor. Good smooth creamy soft body. A fine flanders!

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Photo of bkett01
4.15/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours with a quarter inch cream/white head over a dark ruby red ale. Appearance is very enticing and it is well carbonated. The smell is tart with with cherries and a mild funk in the nose.

First taste is very lively with a big sour cherry-fig start that finishes mildly sweet on the tongue. Tough to touch on all the flavors in this but I'm also getting other dark fruits with no bitterness.

At 7% this is very drinkable, at least until you can't take the sour flavors anymore. Great example of the style, and one I'd recommend giving a try.

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Photo of czfreeman
4.5/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I was very excited to try this beer. I had been meaning to pick one up for a long time, drank it with one of my best friends last night..what a great biere!
This tart cherry treat pours out a deep copper penny-reddish color, capped by a nice two finger light red-tan head. Leaves lovely amounts of sticky lacing arount the chalice. Perfect intitial presentation of a Flanders Red.
Aromas explode into a face-full of cherries,Granny Smith apples,sweet-n-sour black cherries,Brett yeast, lactic acidity, musty oaks, muscadines. WoW!
De Proef translates into "tasting" in Flemish and this beer lives up to the brewmasters moniker and raises it to new standards. Flavors pop..vibrant tart cherries, pomegranite, green apples, something like unsweetened welches grape juice balanced by a perfected amount of yeast smoothness. The prevaling tartness, married with funky yeastiness makes it hard to sip on this glass of mouth-watering goodness. Damn this is a fine Bier!
Mouthfeel was smooth, tart yet balanced. drinkablity is limited only by the amount of liquid in the bottle, when its gone, you just want more.

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Photo of giblet
4.05/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

i had a hard time figuring out the label. i did not have a hard time drinking the beer. poured a nicely into the glass with about three inches of head that settled to about one and a half inches. steady carbonation. nice sweet-sour aroma. nice sour flavor of sour sweet apple. nice tingle in the mouth. good lace in the glass. this is a downright tasty brew.

suckem up and movem out.


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Photo of dedrinker
4.26/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Kind of a murky rust color with a thin cream colored head that clings to the glass on its way down. Aromas of sour cherry and horse blanket with a little sweetness. The flavor is quite similar with an underlying sweetness that is balanced against the sour, acidic quality. Medium bodied with a fine, slightly sharp carbonation that quickly mellows before becoming prickly. An acidic and metallic finish that is somewhat refreshing. Well done.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.38/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to mughugger for sharing this w/ BitterBeerFace, HombreWing and me. Poured chilled into a Gouden Caroulus goblet

A - Deep amber w/ full white head of about an inch. There is a slight haze on this ale, probably from temperature

S - Cherry and raspberries w/ tropical accents like mango and pineapple. the medley of sweet and sour aromas is great. It has more sour notes when swirled, but has a nice nose

M - This is excellent feel-wise. This ale is not so sour that it makes you pucker, just enough to add depth and give the fruity sweetness contrast. It is highly effervescent and feels light but bursts w/ energetic presence

T - The main flavor is similar to strawberry w/ an earthy note and slight brett w/ subtle citrus and herbal tinges. The grain and yeast combine to give a nice underlying spice taste but the sweetness is relaxed and the flavors are layered w/ complexity

D - This is just out of this world drinkable for a 7% ale. The representation of the style is great I would drink this any chance I can get it is refreshing and has depth not something you can find often like the best of both worlds

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Photo of Georgiabeer
4.38/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Brick Store Pub. Pours a beautiful slightly hazy burnt orange leaning toward a chestnut color. Very nice head that is cream colored with tight beading. The smell is slightly sweet up front followed by a gentle lactic quality. Funk at the end with horseblanket and ripe cheese aromas. The taste is very nicely balanced with sweet/tart flavors as well as some nice spice/pepper, and some restrained fruit- pear mostly. Some slight funk grows as the beer warms as well. The mouthfeel is very smooth and quite creamy. Great beer. Not quite as tart as some in the style, but this is more than made up for by a nice restrained herbal funkiness on the finish. Best beer of theirs that I've tried in awhile.

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Photo of rxdrewthejew
4.5/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at La Trappe in San Francisco.

A: Mellow red color, not a dark amber red, more of a burgundy. Head was reddish-tan and nice and fluffy.

S: Smells of sourness, mostly cherries, with a bit of funk.

T: Opens pretty sweet, cherry and fruity sugar, but then the sourness hits. Not overly sour, to be honest, but enough to make it clear that it's a sour beer. A bit of earthiness and a very dry finish.

MF: Pretty smooth, only just a bit of carbonation, but that's ok by me. The sourness and dry finish give it a nice feel and make it a good sipping beer. Not much warming and the alcohol didn't really hit that hard. Fairly light beer overall.

D: A really good sour offering, though I don't have much to compare it too. The only other in this style I've had is NB's La Folie, and this beer was much less sour and more drinkable. Light and smooth, I could easily have had another glass or two. Great stuff.

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Photo of YankChef
3.42/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750ml bottle poured into a rodenbach glass

Appearance: Hazy darker red with rust like hues, kind of looks like pomegranite juice with pulp if that existed.

Smell: Big time cherry, almost smells like kasteel rouge however there is still a rugged sourness funk that comes along with this style that i do love so much.

Taste: The first thing that hits is a mild sweetness that then fades to a mild sourness. This beer is really timid all around what a dissapointment. The carbonation is also surprisingly low.

Overall: I think that I am drinking this beer past its prime, carbonation is almost nonexistant and there is almost no finish. A shame i was really looking forward to this.

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Photo of BretSikkink
4.36/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Red orange in color, a bit darker than that really, lighter around the edges though. Super sticky head, off white in color, and thick. Massive, 3-D lacing. This is a beauty no matter what style.

Funky Brett yeast dominates the nose, while also giving off plenty of cherry bitterness. A little too much towards the funk on this one, but still really nice. Same again in the mouth: too much of the barnyard, musty flavor while not giving the cherries a chance to shine. Probably some oak aging going on, this one retains a nice woody character.

Sweet, sour, oaky, delicious. Highly recommended.

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Photo of Beerzebub
4.25/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle, served in a big wine glass at 59 F/ 15 C.

Deep orange-red color, thick lumpy light beige head, plenty of sticky finely textured lace.

Pungent smell of tart cherry, sweet ripe apple, sweet and sour strawberry rhubarb pie, honeylike and doughy malts, some restrained bacterial damp earth and even a bit of wet animal, but quite wholesome - like a farm after a rain storm - some Pine-Sol, solvent, and spiciness.

Tastes much less sweet than it smells, and even a bit less sour and a bit less funky, but there is still a lot going on. First fruit, medium tart and mildly sweet, with underlying leafy vegetal bitterness. The leafy bitterness grows and is joined by pronounced ironlike minerality, and the beer becomes almost completely dry. Some mild but complex sharp earthy cheese rind funk is present. Lingering dry leafy mineral bitterness.

Can fizz up too much, but swirled and drunk gently, the texture is full and silky instead of fizzy. The bubbles seem extremely small.

The dryness and leafy vegetal minerally bitterness don't just build character, they also make for quite a refreshing drinkable beer, after acclimatization.

An immensely characterful beer, certainly worth a try.

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Photo of RockyTopHeel
3.62/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazy red-brown with a thin, beige head. Aroma is sweet and sour.

Decent sourness up front, with a sweet, cloying element. I was pretty excited for this beer, and it leaves a bit to be desired. Not enough sour, too sweet, and no real complexity.

I like it fine, but I don't think I'll be making a return trip.

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Photo of mrasskicktastic
4.29/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Hazy pale reddish brown brew. A sizable tan head and a good amounts of lacing.

S - Intense sour cherries, a little malty, a flash of hops as well.

T - Sour cherries, a little malty, aftertaste is slightly bitter with a faint hidden medicinal flavor. Not a terribly intense medicinal flavor.

M - A bit foamy, seems thin, but there is a thickness, maybe from the foam only. Pretty refreshing.

D - It is a refreshing beverage. Strong for a Flanders red. I like the flavor and I love the smell. DEfinitely worth seeking out. This brewery has impressed me. I will definitely look for more beers from them. Although I do love Flanders red ales.

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Photo of JDV
2.86/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Shared at tasting with Fly, Dewbrewer, Humulone_Red and others. Thanks guys!
Rich amber colored pour with a small beige head. Smell is lightly sour with cherry, mildish funky feet like aroma, and hints of cheese. Mild tartness and a subtle cheese like flavor in the finish, I thought. Very dry overall and with light sweetness. Went very well with the bleu cheese. Nice beer, and I'm starting to get more interested in the style. Thanks for sharing this one Alan!

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Photo of watchnerd
4.2/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

750ml bottle.

While not in quite the same league as the Rodenbach Grand Cru, this comes in very close to the Rodenbach Classic.

But there are differences in style, for sure. While the Rodenbachs lean more towards berry-tasting, this baby leans strongly towards the apple end of the spectrum, with strong notes of hard cider, partially fermented green apples, and even a touch of apple vinegar. Also more sour, and less sweet, than the already tart Rodenbachs. But in a good way and very refreshing.

Impressive drinkability: I would never have guessed this is 7% from the taste. I could easily drink a bottle of this a week.

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Photo of BBeerL
4.85/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the most complete Flanders Red Ales I have had the pleasure of trying. In my experience arfter a bottle of some red ales my mouth is left a sour puckering mess. Not with this guy. It has a full rich body( for a flanders) to go with the dry sour taste. I truely loved this beer.

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Photo of brewcrew76
4/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - A mix of tea brown and ruby red with a few fingers of off white head.

S - Brettanomyces barnyard funk that is powerful enough to cover up the sour cherries in the background.

T - Tart cherry, barnyard funk with some woodiness.

M - Light to medium body with good carbonation.

D - The Brett starts heavy but then mellows somewhat. As much as I like brett it overpowers the tart chrry at times.

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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 193 ratings.