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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

306 Ratings
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Ratings: 306
Reviews: 192
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 13.55%
Wants: 27
Gots: 21 | FT: 1
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De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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Photo of Risser09
4.68/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Great beer shared by Hopdog? at Phatz' sour beer tasting

Appearance: This ale pours a hazy brown and gold color with a tan head and copious amounts of lacing. Very nice for this style.

Smell: I must say that these aromas were unique for a flanders red ale. I picked up sweet corn, cotton candy, bubble gum and old raspberries. Brett is also noticable with its distinct sour funkiness.

Taste: Begins tart wth an obvious sour cherry flavor and follows with a raspberry/malt middle. Plenty of sugar and spice and everything nice. The finish is a blend of coconut and oak in a long, drawn out profile.

Mouthfeel: Carbonated lightly, apparent alcohol brings on a burn. This beer was creamy for a flanders red.

Drinkability: I found this beer to be nice and spicy. It left me with a good impression of flavor, sourness and overall drinkability. It hit a lot of bases to become a versatile beer for me. I would seek this out and purchase it.

Photo of yemenmocha
4.65/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours somewhere between an iced tea brown and ruby red, depending on width of glass and the angle. Very appealing. Nose is thick and dollop-like, reminding me of an old-fashioned root beer float in childhood.

Nose is an explosion of ripe fruits such as apricot, green apples, honeydew, and canteloupe. There's a hint of yeastiness or fresh bread in there too.

On the palate the body is noticeably thick and creamy, with flavours of mixed fruits that challenge you for identification. Sometimes grape, sometimes black cherry, sometimes apple. Interesting thing is that the nose suggests one set of fruits, but oddly enough on the palate another set of fruits make an appearance.

Very easy drinking with a soft, medium length finish.

This Flemish Ale is a pleasant surprise.

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.63/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, corked and caged, bought for $12.99 at Rozi's in Cleveland last week. For whatever reason I've never seen this on shelves before, surprising given there are already so many reviews. I grabbed it without a second thought, as De Proefbrouwerij makes quality wild ales.

This beer has a glorious appearance, reddish orange and clear with a slight chill haze, thick rocky poofs of off-white foam. This is the perfect Flanders Red visual. The aroma is really strong with brettanomyces, sharp and funky, leather and dark fruit like plums and cherries. Nice subtle malts, earthy and authentically Belgian.

This beer just doesn't disappoint by any measure. Damn, it tastes delicious and perfect. Makes you wonder why people rave over legitimately good American wild ales while never mentioning Belgian greats beyond Cantillon. Cherry/plum alcohol, nice sweet counterplay, the sour doesn't reach bracing levels but is rather well balanced by the sweet malt and sugar. Tart, refreshing, addictive. Soft body, silky-like with just enough carbonation, very good.

Photo of mwilbur
4.6/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured from 750 mL bottle into tulip.
A: Pours a nice red with hint of brown around the edges. Cloudy with backlighting. Nice 1/2 inch white head with good retention and excellent sticky lacing (clings to the glass forever).
S: Perfectly balanced sweet and sour notes. Cherry, sour lemon, brettanomyces and other yeast.
T: Sweet cherry, sour lemon, fresh yeast, creamy milk, apple cider vinegar, soft oak, and other fruit notes. Again, perfectly balanced sweet and sour.
M: Soft and silky smooth upfront. Transitions to a sour bite which lingers and gradually diminishes.
D: Oh, sweet nectar of the gods. The definition of drinkability. Complex enough to keep your interest through the entire bottle and yet light enough (ABV 7%) to make it sessionable. Another simply wonderful brew from The Prof.

Photo of OStrungT
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

This beer pours a slightly cloudy brown color with a thick off white head. The head fades very slowly, leaving massive laces. After 30 minutes, whe head still remains.

This beer has a very pleasent aroma. It smells of cherries. It smells sweet and slightly tart. It has a slight spicy aroma also. A little citrus is present. It has a very slight earthy yeast aroma.

This beer is slightly sour, but surprizingly smooth. It has hints of cherries. It is very sweet, but not overbearing. Slight citrus flavor is detectable. It has a slight woody taste to it also.

This beer is very smooth. It leaves a sour cherry aftertaste. This beer is well carbonated.

I think this beer would make an excelent session beer. It is very easy to drink. I think I will have to go back and buy many more.

Photo of Phatz
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

I am not sure if it was hopdog, egajdzis or weeare138 who brought the Zoetzuur; they arrived together. Regardless, *huge* thanks.
This is actually not the typical Flanders Red, I love it is a bit more sour, which I love even more. The Lambic like sour nature with the wild yeasts and funk is a dream.

Appearance: poured out a beautiful dark caramel color with some golden copper highlights on the edges. Fantastic white foam head and very heavy lacing painting the Walls of my glass.

Smell: Sour apple. Apple cider. Applecider vinegar acidity, intense Brettanomyces sour funk, lactic, and fruity. An aged woodiness carries berries and spice and dark vinous flavors in through the nose. Simply irresistibly enticing.

Taste: The sour black cheery pucker and the big Brett flavor dominate the taste though a sweet red fruit juice and adequate malt profile balance a little bit. The lactic acidity keeps my cheeks stinging perfectly. the puck lasts a long time and the vanilla and wood lemon and cheery hang in my mouth ridiculously long after the swallow.

Mouthfeel: Very soft in the mouth with lively fine carbonation.

Drinkability: This one is not too sweet not too sour. It is a delicious easy drinking Red, for a sour fan. A bit unique, and a nice change of pace.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Photo of RBorsato
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Golden copperish red with a nice tan to light tannish brown head, nice active carbonation and some lace. Lightly sour black cherry fruity aromas with a nice touch of musty, earthy, malt character. Sour fruity dark cherry flavors dominate with a light funky Brett finish and a bit of mustiness. Medium-light bodied.

Nicely surprised with it's fruitiness and very light Brett character .. almost a Black Cherry Lambic but not quite as "sparkling".

Per bottle: 7% ABV

Per MJ notes: Crafted in 11-hectolitre batches exclusively for the Michael Jackson Rare Beer Club by the Andelot Proefbrouwerij of Lochristi, Belgium.

Malt: 2-Row Munich, Pilsner, and Cara malt
Hops: Tomahawk & East Kent Goldings
IBU’s: 21
Flavoring: Sweet-and-Sour Black Cherry Juice
Yeast: Mixed Fermentation of Saccharomyces & Brettanomyces. Lactobacillus is naturally produced, fermenting the sugars in the juice.
Original Gravity: 1072 (18 Plato)
Alcohol Volume: 8.5% ABV
Alcohol Weight: 6.7% ABV

(750 ml / 25.4 oz. tall straight brown champagne style bottle, corked, and caged)

Photo of klewis
4.58/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A: Pours a light red with a big foamy head. Lots of sustaining foam leaves a thick layer of lacing on the glass.

S: Lots of aromas in here - mostly cherry, but also oak, citrus and a touch of brett.

T: Not as harsh and tart as I expected on the first sip. In fact, the flavor is quite smooth. Much like the smell with a strong fruity character. Mild but prominent flavors of oak and wild yeast funk add some depth.

M: Medium-bodied with moderate carbonation. A mild sourness lingers on the palate for a while.

D: Amazingly easy to drink while still maintaining style-approriate characteristics. The best flemish ale I've had yet.

Photo of rxdrewthejew
4.55/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at La Trappe in San Francisco.

A: Mellow red color, not a dark amber red, more of a burgundy. Head was reddish-tan and nice and fluffy.

S: Smells of sourness, mostly cherries, with a bit of funk.

T: Opens pretty sweet, cherry and fruity sugar, but then the sourness hits. Not overly sour, to be honest, but enough to make it clear that it's a sour beer. A bit of earthiness and a very dry finish.

MF: Pretty smooth, only just a bit of carbonation, but that's ok by me. The sourness and dry finish give it a nice feel and make it a good sipping beer. Not much warming and the alcohol didn't really hit that hard. Fairly light beer overall.

D: A really good sour offering, though I don't have much to compare it too. The only other in this style I've had is NB's La Folie, and this beer was much less sour and more drinkable. Light and smooth, I could easily have had another glass or two. Great stuff.

Photo of marburg
4.55/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

My wife and I picked apples a few weeks ago, and being late in the season with so much rain, the apples were particularly good. Some of the varieties were so deep in color they were a regal burgandy that bordered on pushing into indigo. The apples knocked from the branches were turning this sickly shade of brown. And that's *exactly* the color of this beer -- a deeply muddied red.

Tart, chopped Michigan cherries and soggy sweet wood in the nose. Subtle hints of chocolate and an obvious sour-ish "brettanomyces" kick.

The flavors begin with a certain sweetness -- fruity, plum-like, and a bit thin up front. A drier sourness encompasses the mid-palate, which is efficiently swept away by a lasting finish driven by the flavor of chomped leaves and pine needles. Remarkably farmhouse-like in its narrowly focused bitterness.

A well-rounded, all-encompassing Flemish ale. While in a natural sort of spirit, it's a far cry from the lactic nature of even Rodenbach Grand Cru and an even further stretch to compare this to its sweetened cousins from other brewers. The more restrained acidity is a bit disappointing to me personally, but this is an intriguing beer that's well worth wading through -- it really grew on me through the end of the bottle. I've got a few more bottles, so we'll see what I think of it over time. But for now, chalk this up as a fun, somewhat unconventional success.

Photo of dza360
4.53/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a muddy opaque copper, thin white head lingers throughout the glass.

Smell immediately leaves a sour and musty funk impression which leaves my mouth watering. Beyond the initial funk is some earthy and metallic notes.

The beer tastes outstanding... having tried 3 or 4 different takes on the style this one stands out as the most balanced I have come across. The sour is present for sure, but it has so much more to offer compared to the other examples of the style I have tried. Their is a distinct dryness coupled with a green apple bite like you might find in a white wine. Nothing is overbearing and I am just enjoying the bottle more and more as it warms. The carbonation is moderate to low and just fine for this brew.

I would rate the drink ability high for this style because of the great balance achieved. With other sours I have had a hard time finishing a bottle, but this one keeps me wanting more.

Can't say enough about how much I admire this brew from a fine brewery. De Proef has been a great find for me so far and this brew is at the top of the list.

Photo of yelterdow
4.53/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From the vaults of the Rare Beer Tour compliments of Michael Jackson. Although this beer is classified in the "retired" category, there are still a few of these around as of December 2005.

I'm tasting this on my 35th birthday, and I look forward to reviewing it.

Served in a Fin Du Monde Belgian tasting tulip at just over fridge temperature. The bottle reads 7% alcohol, not 8.5% as this page suggests.

Appearance- A picture perfect display of color and structure. The beer pours a fantastically clear Flemish red with brown highlights, and the four finger crown billows even better than Rodenbach... and that's saying something. The lacing is sporadic, but it's still clingy and persistent.

Smell- Wonderfully fragrant, and nose-puckeringly good. This pushes the envelope almost to the Lambic style, with a bold farmy funkiness and horseblanket character that I love so much. As the beer approaches cellar temperature, an underlying sweetness integrates with the sour horsey notes. Fantastic.

Taste- Outstanding delivery of sour cherries, barnyard funk, and overall lip-smacking goodness that rivals Rodenbach Classic... again, the difference is the more prominent notes of horseblanket. Lambic lovers, eat your heart out... if you can find this, buy it.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Sharp but rolling in the mouth, the texture is of the finest carbonation and boosts the sweet and sour character of the beer. Even with the beefed up ABV (7% vs. Rodenbach's 5.1%), this drinks so easy and quenches thirst better than almost anything I've ever had. A most enjoyable and worthwhile beer.

P.S. I suggest taking care not to disturb the yeast sediment at the bottom of the bottle, as I have swirled in the last 2 oz. at the end. Much better without the sludge.

Photo of TheLevi4000
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of Dukeofearl
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle purchased at LaBodega in Riverside, CA for $9.99. I hadn't heard of this beer before I bought it, but when I saw the style, I knew I had to have at least one. FYI, the BA header says this is 8.5% ABV; the bottle says 7%.

Pours a flat reddish brown, quite transparent, with an off-white bubbly head that sits very nicely in my St. Bernardus chalice. Quite attractive.

Aroma- boy, this is why I broadened my beer horizons. Woody, sour cherry, organic aromas, perhaps a touch of lemon citrus zest, but also a sweet hint too. This is a wonderful smell.

Flavor- the first sip was quite a shock. I was prepared for this Duchesse-like sweet-sour dance, but at first, it just rushed down my throat in a tart pucker. My initial reaction was not good. But after a few swallows, the fruitiness really opens up, as partly ripened raspberries fight with black cherries and sour citrus. This is good stuff.

My one reservation about this is that the sourness outweighs the sweetness so it's not as balanced as I would like. But this is really a minor quibble. I really like this beer. (Of course the best part is watching my finacee pucker up after she tried it!).

Highly drinkable. Creaminess in the mouthfeel keeps it from being overpowering. Recommended.

Photo of MrJolly
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of granger10
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Deep ruby, woody, garnet color with a large brilliant white head which unfortunately soon fades to nothing but a skim layer atop the liquid. Lots of spotty lacing around the glass.

Vinous aromas abound. Light cherry skins along with a slightly stinging acidity. Honey and farmhouse funk come side by side.

Taste is dominated by the Belgian yeasty flavors. Some sweeter cream notes are present. The acidity is notes but not stinging whatsoever. I think the creaminess is lining my palate and holding back the stinging sensation. Odd but I like it. There's also notes of tart cherry, light wood flavors, and some sweeter purple grapes.

Mouthfeel is great to me. I know this isn't as funky as some of the other Flanders Red beers but that's ok. The creamy sweet flavors match up excellent with the Belgian funk. Fairly full bodied with moderate carbonation. It all works nicely.

Alcohol is really inperceptible. This is an easy drinker yet so complex and flavorful that I can't drink it too fast and it continually intrigues me. Definitely get this and try it if you can.

Photo of krome
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: 750ml tall brown glass long neck bottle sealed with a simple unmarked thumbed cork, steel cage and black metal cap. It does seem like the cork has the code “ZZ54” on it upon closer inspection. Labeled as one of a series of the ‘Brewmaster’s Collection – Special Reserve’.

Appearance: Gorgeous presentation, appealing looks and a classic defined Belgian feel to this one in my Westy Goblet. Deeply polished cherry wood body, chestnut flashes with a garnet hue. Creamy beige head produces a uniform cap and seems to last at ½” forever. Lovely lacing is well supported by the infinitesimally fine conditioning. Supreme looks!

Nose: Mix and match juxtaposed aromas. Sharpness from freshly skinned damson plums blends with a yeasty acidic punch in the middle. Soft malts sit inside rounded dark fruit alcohols, black cherries, citrusy tingles here and there, a defined but clean farmyard feel and a nice earthy musty feel on the back of the throat. All this is spattered with dusty Brett laden cobwebs throughout the nasal structure. Orgasmic odors!

Taste: Lovely farmyard entrance, soft earthy Brett with some musty damp oak wood undertones. Cutting damson plums balance the alcohol, sour traits, but never astringent, always soft. Funky but in a clean cultured way. Dusty body, the dark cherry and plum fruits rise and fall against the sourness as you drink this one. Gentle tip of the hat to most Flemish Reds with some unique Proef characteristics thrown in. Felt cleaner than most though.

Mouthfeel: Has a delicate talcum soft texture, a very light feel but with plenty of support from the finely dissolved soft conditioning which presents a great platform for the Flemish Red characteristics to shine through. Excellent mouth feel from the off.

Drinkability: Utterly Effortless!!! Intensely refreshing, it cuts a wide swathe through thirst. Easily one of the smoothest Flemish Reds, somehow it merges the traditional sour-sharpness with a smooth well-conditioned fruity feel. The farmyard is present but it has been tidied up a little it seems. Technically “cleaner” than most, but still a great example of the style for my money. Very refreshing and highly quaffable. More please!

Overall: A solid Flemish Red.

Highly Recommended!

Photo of brdc
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Larke corked bottle, bought at Coffee Grounds Eau Claire.
It is a dark golden brew with a nice reddish hue, and a foamy, sticky white head with a pinkish tinge.
The very nice aroma starts with framboise, cherries and berries, evolving into a yeast-like smell that although I cannot clearly identify, it usually suggests the sourness of the brew.
On the palate, it is refreshing, quite easy to drink, and it shows depth of flavor. Sweet berries, then sour and puckering, the more sweet fruitiness.
Great summer brew for someone that just loves flanders reds.

Photo of LightnerLiquorKS
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of dprophet
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of czfreeman
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I was very excited to try this beer. I had been meaning to pick one up for a long time, drank it with one of my best friends last night..what a great biere!
This tart cherry treat pours out a deep copper penny-reddish color, capped by a nice two finger light red-tan head. Leaves lovely amounts of sticky lacing arount the chalice. Perfect intitial presentation of a Flanders Red.
Aromas explode into a face-full of cherries,Granny Smith apples,sweet-n-sour black cherries,Brett yeast, lactic acidity, musty oaks, muscadines. WoW!
De Proef translates into "tasting" in Flemish and this beer lives up to the brewmasters moniker and raises it to new standards. Flavors pop..vibrant tart cherries, pomegranite, green apples, something like unsweetened welches grape juice balanced by a perfected amount of yeast smoothness. The prevaling tartness, married with funky yeastiness makes it hard to sip on this glass of mouth-watering goodness. Damn this is a fine Bier!
Mouthfeel was smooth, tart yet balanced. drinkablity is limited only by the amount of liquid in the bottle, when its gone, you just want more.

Photo of Danielbt
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of Sinewave
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%

Photo of atremains
4.5/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark red with a light eggnog colored head. Reduces to a thick pacing. Very full.
Cherry funk and a ton of citrus zest. Apple
Taste goes cherry-sour/funk-malt-cherry. Big cherry taste. Very smooth. The sour become more intense over time.
Very drinkable sour. Great balance

Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 306 ratings.