Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Reviews: 193
Hads: 331
Avg: 3.94
pDev: 17.26%
Wants: 30
Gots: 29 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.98/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a murky brown with a 3 inch foamy beige head that settles to a craggy cap on top of the beer. A foamy latticework of lace coats the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt/grain, earthy yeast, funk, and some sour cherry aromas. Taste is of sour cherry and mild Brett funk up front with some earthy grain flavors on the finish. This beer lives up to its name and is indeed sweet and sour at the same time. There is a lower level of carbonation with only a slight crispness. Overall, this is a good beer that is quite tasty and easy to drink.

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Photo of mlazzaro
3.56/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Hazed rose hued body with fluffy white head. Decent head retention. Somewhat larger sized bubbles here and there and very bizarre looking lacing. Yeast at bottom of bottle. Light on carbonation. Smells like cherries (sweet). Slight lactic yeast/bacteria to the smell. Mild aroma.

Flavor is very fruity. Cherry juice is still a touch sweet. Tastes very young. It does have a sourness to it, distinctly Brett. flavors. Super mild though. Malt character is light, what is there is caramelized malts. Bitterness is suiting to the rest of the beer. As advertized sweet and sour flavor. Mouthfeel is mild on acidity and light-medium bodied.

I was a little disappointed at first because I like outrageously sour beers. This is way drinkable, just very tame for my palate. Might be a good beer for folks gettin' their toes wet with sour beers.

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Photo of vobr0002
3.73/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- reddish brown with good head that fades quickly.

S- sour cherry, Brett funkyness, some sweetness.

T- cherry fruit flavor, little bit of sourness, getting a slight amount of sweet.

M- lighter feel with a medium amount of carbonation.

O- its a decent beer but I like a bit more sour.

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Photo of TVolt1
3.74/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: reddish brown with small amount of white head.

S: Great cherry wine smell. Very sweet and sour and excited to try it.

T: OK taste. Little funky tasting with a cherry flavor. Wanted it a little crisper and sour.

M: OK medium mouth feel but not as bubbly/crisp as I would like

O: overall, I have had better but not terrible.

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Photo of DavoleBomb
3.68/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a tulip. 2012 vintage. Lovin' the classy synthetic cork.

4.5 A: Hazed plum color. Three fingers of pillowy pinkish tinted white head. Retention is very good and tons of lacing is left.

4.0 S: Holy shit! This is now the second beer I've had that smells just like Pez candy. The other one was a winter warmer. There's some funk underneath, but this is dominated by the Pez. No need to describe this any further.

3.5 T: While the nose was straigh up Pez, the taste is like Pez flavored beeer. Pez dominates giving a pleasant fruity, sugary sweetness. There's much more funk than in the nose. Barnyard notes with apple and apple orchard funk. Definitely more sweet than sour. There's just a touch of acetic with more lactic acid presenting. In any case, not bad.

3.5 M: Lighter to lighter medium body. Carbonation level is fine, but it's not as spritzy or as creamy as I'd like.

3.5 D: Decent beer. Nothing to write home about though. It costs about as much as Rodenbach, though, so I don't see a reason to buy this one again.

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Photo of cocoapuph
3.53/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had a hard time uncorking this one... poured a rich ruby red-copper color with a thick head. Smelled of tart cherries and grapes. A hint of raisin and sugar sweetness comes through. Almost sunblock smelling too.

Tasted of tart cherries and a bit of metallic flavors. A little nit of coconut and vinegar come through as well. Mouth feel was tangy and smooth.

Decent but definitely had better. May drink again if given a bottle.

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.29/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A - A murky brown body with a ruby tint. The head fades quickly, leaving a bubbly ring of lace and a weather forecast hurricane pattern in the middle of the beer.

S - Tangy, sweet and acidic. Some cherry cough syrup nuances and a good bit of fruit skin and yeast aromas. A mild waft of sweet fall spices.

T - Very tart and tangy up front, with a sturdy metallic bite. Deep yeast complexity and sour cherry/tart fruit skin. Sweet on the lips after the sip. Woody dry flavors and earth notes. Dry biscuity alcohol in the backend.

M - Medium bodied with an intriguing feel. Yeasty beer, champagne like effervescence and wine like dryness. The yeast profile makes this one, drying and cleansing.

O - Superb, a yeast lovers beer. Balanced, sweet and sour as the name says.

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Photo of kzoobrew
3.03/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Cherry stained amber colored body. A one finger white head sits atop momentarily. The head recedes rather quickly. There is a somewhat surprising amount of lacing left with such a modest head.

Sweet cherry juice overpowering upfront. A sour fruit aroma attempts to temper the sweetness just behind. The aroma is very candy like. Warmth brings forward more brett characteristics which were very subtle when cold. The bit of funk still does little to improve the candied aroma upfront.

Sweet cherry juice upfront becomes a bit more tart as it moves towards the back of the palate. The upfront flavor is again far too candylike. The flavor is most intense on the back of the palate. A combination of leathery, dusty funk and cranberry lingers.

Light bodied, moderate carbonation. The sweetness lingers and keeps the finish from becoming dry.

A rather underwhelming beer. The sweetness is a bit too much, very artificial flavor. Small servings are suggested with this beer. A little goes a long way.

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Photo of WynnO
3.36/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

All in all, a good Flemish Red.

The color is beautiful, yet the head seemed a bit weak.

On the down side, I detected a slight disagreeable component in the smell, almost certainly caused by the cherry juice. This beer's flavor is a bit weaker than other personal favorites (Duchesse and Rodenbach), but there is no doubt of it being a straight-ahead Flemish Red.

I would have no hesitation with buying another bottle.

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Photo of dcook11
5/5  rDev +26.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

A- Cranberry hue with ample carbonation and a gorgoues white head.

S- Apple, cranberry, cherry. Very juice like.

T- Cranberry and cherry dominant. Very pleasent.

M- Light bodied.

O- This is one of my favorite beers of all time. Perfection in a glass. This is a 5 for me. I was suprised though at the lack of sourness this beer had. Note: This cork is very difficult to get off!

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.34/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

De Proef Zoetzuur Flemish Ale
(according to the bottle, brewed with Kriek juice)

Pours a nice ruby color, off white head and nice lacing. Aroma of berries, so quite fruity and slight hint of funk. In the taste, a nice tart sourness, mild acidity, sugary malt, and a hint of cherry juice. Very well balanced with a perfect mix of sweet, sour, malt, and fruit. Ever so slight touch of red wine vinegar. Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied and drying. Overall, one of the best examples of the Flanders style, and the fruit is downplayed and left in the background where it belongs. Well done.

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Photo of BrauKilR
4/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Aroma: The funk of lambic complexity, with its notes of rhubarb and oak, leaning in this case toward vinegar/acetic. Dark cherry and malt sweetness. Vanilla. Oak. Spiciness which dissipates relatively quickly with time. No diacetyl. No hops.

Appearance: Clear, medium amber with an off-white, creamy head that persists as a creamy film and laces the glass – a Mort Subite goblet for this tasting. I expect this head may last till morning if I left it.

Flavor: Prominent – though short of bold -- fruit flavors of plum and cherry, toasty-bready malt sweetness, all accompanied by a complimentary sourness/tartness. Hints of vanilla which I presume to echo its time in oak. Bitterness is low and there is no hop flavor. Yeast character is expressed in the spicy, “Belgian” –type phenolics and dark fruit character. The long finish is sweet and tart with a red wine-like character, yet less astringent.

Mouthfeel: Medium leaning toward medium-full bodied. Chewy, creamy texture with a mild, tingly astringency. Mild carbonation to lift it, followed by a noticeable but unobtrusive alcohol warming on the way down.

Overall: A slightly fuller bodied, less spritzy-assertive version of Flanders Red than Duchesse De Bourgogne, which I consider the cranberry soda of the beer world. Very drinkable, but not quite as sour as I anticipated, which is not a knock; this is well within style. I do live very close to the Jolly Pumpkin, however, and anticipate more than a complimentary sourness in sour ales as a result. This might be a good launching point for anyone wanting to be introduced to the sour ale category.

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Photo of WickedSluggy
4.17/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice garnet color is dark enough to make clarity difficult to determine. A thin pale foam layer remains to form sparce lacing.

Aroma is a combination of that familiar bretty, winey beauquet along with the unmistakable aroma of sour cherries.

Flavor is drier than I expected. Not extreamly sour either but a nice refreshing combination of the two base flavors - Quite refreshing very drinkable with a supple mouthfeel that invites another retained swishing mouthful.

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Photo of claytong
4.16/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

appearance - beautiful crimson red and a semi off white one inch head off controlled pour which sticks around very well. amazing lacing, covers the top minus a few little circles.

smell - cherries (sweet), vinegar, sugar, perhaps red wine perhaps a wood (very faint)

taste - much of the same. vinegar is not really there except on end. not much sourness going on. in fact its definitely on the sweeter side.

mouthfeel - want a bit more sour in there. great to perfect carbonation. medium to thick body. no cloying. extremely drinkable.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
3.69/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

25oz into Dupont widemouth glass.

Murky, cloudy brown body with just a faint off-white film. Quite still.

Aromas are great - lots of sweetness, with notes of brown sugar, cinnamon, candied cherries, and a fair amount of spice. Decent amount of red wine vinegar in the finish.

Flavors unfortunately end up being a bit of a disappointment after that aroma. Dull, overripened dark fruits - plum primarily. Lots of sweetness from the aroma, and has a fair amount of earth/dirt and funk. Gym sneakers come through as it warms. Could've used a bit more vinegar quality.

Mouthfeel is pretty dull, but not off the mark. No carbonation, and just a slight pull on the palate.

Overall, this one was a bit too sweet for my liking, but is a decent representation of the style.

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Photo of Pencible
3.98/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured a cloudy reddish mahogany with fluffy light tan head.
S: It smelled like rich sour cherry with some vinegar and oak, and a little metallic and candi sugar.
T: It tasted like smooth sweet cherry and brown sugar, with earthy oak and tart vinegar and a bit of candi sugar. It had a mellow sweet and sour aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. Too thin.
D: This was a nice Flanders red. The sourness was very balanced with sweetness. The body was a bit weak, but there was no alcohol noticeable, so it was very easy to drink. Probably best fresh, because the cherry character will likely fade with age. Recommended.

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Photo of teromous
4.34/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A: It pours a light tan, the color of tea. It's hazy in the glass and has a thin bubbly head.

S: It has a very strong sour smell to it. I pick up a little hint of alcohol smell. There is a hint of cherry smell to it...reminds me a lot of cherry lip balm. I get some slight earthy barn-like smells too.

T: It has an initial sourness but it fades into a malty back-flavor. The malt really stands up to the sourness and it doesn't leave my mouth puckering at all. The aftertaste is fruity, and reminiscent of fresh plums.

M: As I mentioned in the taste portion, it's not puckering at all. The mouthfeel is perfect. It has just the right amount of sourness to bitterness ratio to balance it out. It's great!

O: Overall this was a really great beer. I expected that it would be really sour and it wasn't. This is the perfect beer for people to try who want to enjoy a slightly sour beer without it being overwhelming.

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Photo of Viciousknishs
4.42/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- pours a ruddy brown color with a healthy finger and a half of off white head. Retention is decent but recedes into a ring of bubbles.

S- starts out with a great tart acidity with a traditional Flanders vineous note. Sweet dark cherry juice gives a nice juxtaposition to the initial tartness. A thin blanket of funk blends in nicely with a musky earthy note. Finishs with a dry bready malt.

T- Tart up front with a low acidity. The vineous character gives it some traditional flavors. Branching away from tradition a gigantic sweet dark cherry juice explodes on the palate. Finishs with a funky Brett flavor with a earthy character.

MF- slick smooth mouthfeel with a sweettart tart character. Medium body with averge carbonation.

D- very drinkable introductory sour. Yum!

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Photo of zaphodchak
3.88/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark amber body with 2 finger off-white head that laces like a champ.

Nose is very faint-- tart/vegetal, but faintly metallic... not too objectionable, but still.

Taste is interesting; sweet at first growing sour towards the middle. Faint bell pepper. There's kind of a sticky aftertaste (slightly sweet and sour), but this is not too objectionable.

Mouthfeel is creamy enough to undercut what would otherwise be a bitter lemonade taste. Nice.

Overall, a good example of a style for the Flemish sour. Not as sour as Dutchess or Monk's Cafe, nor as vegetal as Bourgogne de Flandres: a very effective compromise

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Photo of Rayek
3.62/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This deep garnet beer was had back to back with Duchesse De Bourgogne. It didn't hold up that well against what I consider to be the benchmark for this style, but is decent in own right.

The cherries in this carry the sweetness burden, along with some raisins and currants. Bitterness is mild and peppery. Overall the flavor comes across a bit thin to me. Like most beers of this style, I'm getting a red wine message that I like quite a bit.

If I hadn't drank this against Duchesse, I probably would have liked it more. Overall it's nice, but not great.

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Photo of SolomonGrundy
3.8/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Just by looking a quickly smelling, I think this might be solid gold right here...

The basics: $10.99/750ml bottle and 7% ABV...OK on both...

I dug the Van Twee so let's see where this bottle carries us...

In a great mood today as the busiest season for us tax types has finally come to a virtual end...It's all downhill from here...

Nice orange-red-amber, kinda cloudy, kinda not, if you get the meaning...Well carbonated. Sopay head that settles into a nice creamy half finger of persistence. Great lacing...

Aroma is so interesting...It's like sunshine bouncing off cherries in early Summer...It's crisp, clean, floral and fruity. Not overpowering and only the slightest hint of funk...The latter quality could be a bad sign as the funk usually lets us know it's well made...

Whoa, this is a bizarre drink...The carbonation is almost too much. It kills the initial sourness a bit. Nicely sour, but not puckeringly so...The cherry notes are kinda lost amid the whole crazy flavor profile...If you burp you certainly notice the cherry flavor, but in the drink it's washed away by so much else. I get some sour cherry once the fizz dies down, a hint of funk. The Brettanomyces is hardly apparent in here...They must have tossed it in as an afterthought...The touch of sweetness is very nice as it helps balance the whole out. The beer is very refreshing, but the flavor profile seems a tad confused to me...Like the brewers weren't sure what to do with the whole thing. It's still works out well, though, as the flavors open up as it warms. Finish carries a nice sweetness and a slight bitterness. Overall not as impressive as the Van Twee, but still good. I'd track it down at this price point as it's unique and refreshing.

What I like most: The unique flavor profile.

What I like least: The price and partly confused flavors profile.

Verdict: Good and unique beer that's worth the price.

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Photo of albern
4/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer is growing on me a bit as it warms. This is a beer that definitely has to settle and can't be too chilled. It pours a very nice brown and ruby color with lots of really nice lace, creamy head, with some retention. The nose isn't particularly pronounced but it is slightly vinegary, vinous, cherry toned, with some sweet malts noticeable. The nose is good, but slightly understated.

The taste is a little tougher to measure. The beer falls somewhere between the sweetness of a Duchesse and the tartness of a Rodenbach, but not quite as good as either. The beer is tilted towards the sweetish side, but has a tartness, some cherry mouthpuckering, and lots of Belgian yeastiness to complement the sweetness. The beer definitely gets more balanced as it warms. Too chilled, and the tartness is just not felt. The beer is complex, has plenty of unique yeast qualities that bring out the sourishness in the otherwise fairly sweet malts. The cherry flavors are also quite complex and run the gamut from mouthpuckering tartness, to slightly sour, to marachino like in their sweetness. There's lots going on in this beer, lots to like, but I prefer a Duchesse or a Rodenbach just a bit more. The Flemish Red style is a real treat. L'Chaim.

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Photo of Tilley4
3.82/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this one into my new Losy Abbey tulip....

Aromas of cherries and leather and oak along with some funk as well... Unusual aromas... Not as tart smelling as others of the style... There's a sweetness here that has me interested...

Very vinous aspects in the flavors... Slightly tart with some sweetness... I'm getting cherries here as well along with hints of vinegar and an earthiness that tones the sharper flavors down some...

Pretty good Flemish here... I didn't find this amazing but I can see myself grabbing this one again...

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Photo of Geuzedad
4.12/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this up at Grape and Gourmet. Poured a nice reddish brown into my tulip with a 1 finger thick fizzy head and lots of lacing retention.

Smell was a definite Flemish Red. Lots of barnyard funk with cherries, vinegar, and a hint of spice.

Taste was definitely a tart sour with a hint of sweet in the middle and a sour finish but not what I expected.

Mouthfeel was medium with slight carbonation noted. Overall not bad.

I split this with GalenGeueze. We decided this was worth a repurchase but as it was a 750 ml bottle, it not something we would want to drink alone as it was more of a dessert style and not a session beer.

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Photo of WestValleyIPA
4.05/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Zatec fluted glass. Pours a very hazy, amber/cherry cola color with some nice sudsy off white head, about a finger. Very nice lacing and some good retention. Smells very barrely/funky. Some cherry and dried fruit coming through. A little of that sweet Belgian sugar scent and a light spicy yeast smell. Flavor is very soft for a sour. Sweet upfront, middling tartness. Cherries throughout. Definitely on the sweeter side of things. Nice consistent creamy little bubbles. Gonna be a stretch to finish this whole bottle, but all in all, a good brew.

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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 193 ratings.