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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

Zoetzuur Flemish AleZoetzuur Flemish Ale

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BA SCORE
88
very good

274 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 274
Reviews: 188
rAvg: 3.93
pDev: 13.74%


Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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SolomonGrundy

California

3.8/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Just by looking a quickly smelling, I think this might be solid gold right here...

The basics: $10.99/750ml bottle and 7% ABV...OK on both...

I dug the Van Twee so let's see where this bottle carries us...

In a great mood today as the busiest season for us tax types has finally come to a virtual end...It's all downhill from here...

Nice orange-red-amber, kinda cloudy, kinda not, if you get the meaning...Well carbonated. Sopay head that settles into a nice creamy half finger of persistence. Great lacing...

Aroma is so interesting...It's like sunshine bouncing off cherries in early Summer...It's crisp, clean, floral and fruity. Not overpowering and only the slightest hint of funk...The latter quality could be a bad sign as the funk usually lets us know it's well made...

Whoa, this is a bizarre drink...The carbonation is almost too much. It kills the initial sourness a bit. Nicely sour, but not puckeringly so...The cherry notes are kinda lost amid the whole crazy flavor profile...If you burp you certainly notice the cherry flavor, but in the drink it's washed away by so much else. I get some sour cherry once the fizz dies down, a hint of funk. The Brettanomyces is hardly apparent in here...They must have tossed it in as an afterthought...The touch of sweetness is very nice as it helps balance the whole out. The beer is very refreshing, but the flavor profile seems a tad confused to me...Like the brewers weren't sure what to do with the whole thing. It's still works out well, though, as the flavors open up as it warms. Finish carries a nice sweetness and a slight bitterness. Overall not as impressive as the Van Twee, but still good. I'd track it down at this price point as it's unique and refreshing.

What I like most: The unique flavor profile.

What I like least: The price and partly confused flavors profile.

Verdict: Good and unique beer that's worth the price.

Serving type: bottle

04-17-2011 23:27:16 | More by SolomonGrundy
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albern

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer is growing on me a bit as it warms. This is a beer that definitely has to settle and can't be too chilled. It pours a very nice brown and ruby color with lots of really nice lace, creamy head, with some retention. The nose isn't particularly pronounced but it is slightly vinegary, vinous, cherry toned, with some sweet malts noticeable. The nose is good, but slightly understated.

The taste is a little tougher to measure. The beer falls somewhere between the sweetness of a Duchesse and the tartness of a Rodenbach, but not quite as good as either. The beer is tilted towards the sweetish side, but has a tartness, some cherry mouthpuckering, and lots of Belgian yeastiness to complement the sweetness. The beer definitely gets more balanced as it warms. Too chilled, and the tartness is just not felt. The beer is complex, has plenty of unique yeast qualities that bring out the sourishness in the otherwise fairly sweet malts. The cherry flavors are also quite complex and run the gamut from mouthpuckering tartness, to slightly sour, to marachino like in their sweetness. There's lots going on in this beer, lots to like, but I prefer a Duchesse or a Rodenbach just a bit more. The Flemish Red style is a real treat. L'Chaim.

Serving type: bottle

04-09-2011 00:45:25 | More by albern
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Tilley4

Tennessee

3.83/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this one into my new Losy Abbey tulip....

Aromas of cherries and leather and oak along with some funk as well... Unusual aromas... Not as tart smelling as others of the style... There's a sweetness here that has me interested...

Very vinous aspects in the flavors... Slightly tart with some sweetness... I'm getting cherries here as well along with hints of vinegar and an earthiness that tones the sharper flavors down some...

Pretty good Flemish here... I didn't find this amazing but I can see myself grabbing this one again...

Serving type: bottle

03-23-2011 17:24:16 | More by Tilley4
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Geuzedad

Arizona

4.1/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this up at Grape and Gourmet. Poured a nice reddish brown into my tulip with a 1 finger thick fizzy head and lots of lacing retention.

Smell was a definite Flemish Red. Lots of barnyard funk with cherries, vinegar, and a hint of spice.

Taste was definitely a tart sour with a hint of sweet in the middle and a sour finish but not what I expected.

Mouthfeel was medium with slight carbonation noted. Overall not bad.

I split this with GalenGeueze. We decided this was worth a repurchase but as it was a 750 ml bottle, it not something we would want to drink alone as it was more of a dessert style and not a session beer.

Serving type: bottle

03-19-2011 14:51:23 | More by Geuzedad
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WestValleyIPA

California

4.03/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Zatec fluted glass. Pours a very hazy, amber/cherry cola color with some nice sudsy off white head, about a finger. Very nice lacing and some good retention. Smells very barrely/funky. Some cherry and dried fruit coming through. A little of that sweet Belgian sugar scent and a light spicy yeast smell. Flavor is very soft for a sour. Sweet upfront, middling tartness. Cherries throughout. Definitely on the sweeter side of things. Nice consistent creamy little bubbles. Gonna be a stretch to finish this whole bottle, but all in all, a good brew.

Serving type: bottle

03-06-2011 03:19:26 | More by WestValleyIPA
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harrymel

Washington

2.48/5  rDev -36.9%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Unknown age on the bottle, but it was in the discount bin, which means it was at least one year on the shelves...

Poured to NB globe.

A: Pours a hazy mahogany ale with little to no head formation despite turbulent pour. Affluent peanut colored film is broken sans evident carbonation.

S: Raisins, prunes,,,,dark fruits dominate the nose. Quite difficult for me to discern. As advertised, sweet and sour. Very reserved as far as flemish ale's go.

T: More tart than I had anticipated. This is quite nice. However, the fruits continue to limit the appreciable flemish qualities one would anticipate. As the ale resonates, I start to sense the cherries typical of the style.

M: medium bodied, low carbonation.

D: Having a hard time enjoying this one. It's tolerable, but I wish the bottle wasn't 750ml's. ended up pouring half out.

Serving type: bottle

02-06-2011 07:13:39 | More by harrymel
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CampusCrew

Florida

3.8/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

appearance: garnet with lots of stick lacing, decent head rentetion for the style

aromas: subtle cherries and wild yeast

taste: well the flavors are subtle to compared to others ion catergory. cherry, like vinegar, not over powering sour by any means, off aftertaste

mouthfeel: light to medium bodied

drinkability: decent by also one of the worst Ive had in the style

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2011 02:07:23 | More by CampusCrew
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gueuzeonhigh

Maine

4.33/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

It is indeed a Flanders Red Ale. Pours a red-brown dark transmitting muted tones though the clear walls of the glass.
A tight knit head lacing the glass holds itself in vogue as the body retreats back to the surface.

The nose releases wafts of citrus, wild cherry and bitter hops with an umbra of malt or sweetness.

Flavor is a wonderful combination of tart green apple flavor with a sweet cherry or even citrus. There is enough effervescence to the beer to accompany the flavor's sweet-sour that adds or almost animates the flavor.

The mouthfeel is cordial-- everything about this beer seems to be in balance-- flavor, flavor characteristics, finish, effervescence and alcohol content.

Drinkability is superior. Alcohol is low enough to make a pint or two per sitting quite possible w/o deleterious effects. The flavor is such that it produces an interest to beckon my drinking the beer and tipping the bottle with some disdain realizing it was empty.

This wonderful Flemish Ale could become a regular in my beer cellar.

Serving type: bottle

01-25-2011 00:01:45 | More by gueuzeonhigh
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Donnie2112

Alaska

3.98/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

poured into a Corsendonk glass

brownish red, offwhite puffy head, solid retention, solid lacing

Aromas of vinegar, very much that wild smell. This beer has certainly seen some brettanomyces

The flavors are largely vinegar without a lot else going on, they aren't overpowering so though and there are just little hints of wheat and cherry

Not a whole lot of malt and body for a beer of this alcohol content, it's very nice though, poppy carbonation and a good solid feel to it.

I could see this being a very drinkable Flanders red, it doesn't insist upon itself the way some do, but it's the real deal, lots of sourness and interesting undertones, could see this becoming a regular drinker.

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2011 11:32:39 | More by Donnie2112
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tempest

Pennsylvania

4.15/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Split a large bottle at The Farmhouse. Wow, I think this is the best Flemish Red I've had. It lacks the sickly-sweet hit, like in Duchess, and instead has an almost dry fruit punch taste with apples and berries. Of course, the beer is dominated by by sour brett character with an Orval-like catty flavor over sweaty funk and lemon peel.

Serving type: bottle

01-17-2011 16:12:52 | More by tempest
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pdoran10

Minnesota

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours out a slightly translucent medium brown color into a pint glass (no awesome glassware at my mom's). Maybe a fourth of finger of off white head that leaves very impressive lacing.

Smell is pronounced, but not sharp vinegar sour, a hint of mustiness. some cherry sweetness. Very pleasant and a unique sour profile.

First thing i get from the taste is a surprising amount of sweet candy breaded malt up front, (think Belgian golden ale malt profile). Finish of the beer is balanced out mostly by a unique sour slightly lemon cherry bite. Malt sweetness is a bit heavier than many other flanders reds here. Not a fan of that. A bit of cherry lingers on the tongue.

Very drinkable flanders red despite the sweetness detracting a bit for myself. Cherry juice really rounds this beer out well. Could have many more glasses.

Serving type: bottle

01-16-2011 12:30:01 | More by pdoran10
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jrallen34

Illinois

4.18/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750ml corked bottle, poured into my Narke glass...A dirty medium copper, hints of amber. A huge creamy light tan head. A big lasting cap, great retention, awesome lacing...Nice aroma, brett, cherries, yeast, very musky like a saison. A hint of vinegar on the very finish. A touch of to much brett, but pretty nice and balanced overall...The taste flips the aroma as the front is musky brett with a slight cherry finish. Not as balanced as the nose, or as enjoyable. The finish is really awesome though, surprised how fruity the cherry note is...Feel is perfectly carbonated with a great finish.

This isn't a flanders red to me, but a really nice brett wild ale. I recommend this.

Serving type: bottle

01-15-2011 03:21:20 | More by jrallen34
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jlindros

Massachusetts

4.1/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a murky light brown and rosy hue beer, with a light fizzy head with a bit of lacing.

Nose of sour fruits, plum, some cherries, a bit of funk, a little bit of malt vinegar.

Taste is pretty good too, sour cherries, a bit of malt vinegar, fairly tart with oak and lacto acidic flavors. Finishes with a long tart acidic vinegar and sour cherry.

Mouth is medium to lighter bodied, plenty of carbonation.

Drink is pretty good, sour/tart flavors hit hard but not overwhelming, some vinegar and acidic flavors, but overall pretty drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

12-22-2010 02:08:23 | More by jlindros
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cbutova

Massachusetts

4.22/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Atremains for sharing this one. Always nice to try a new Flanders/funky beer.

A- Murky dark red with a light pink, creamy head with good retention. Tons of creamy lace coats the whole glass.

S- Tons of cherry up front, sweet overall feel and just a bit of tart. An amazing barnyard fence/pasture/hay/funk mixed with oak. Very nice. Reminds me of hanging around a farm as a child.

T- Ripe cherries with lots of sweets. Some zest and a good bit of oak. Cork/Brett/funk/barnyard shows up with slight raisin and spice, complex.

MF- Creamy with silky smooth carbonation. Goes down very easily. Lighter end with slight tart.

DB- Sweet but it doesn't bother me at all here. The smell is absolutely fantastic. Complex with nice cherry.

Serving type: bottle

12-20-2010 04:04:33 | More by cbutova
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Chico1985

Massachusetts

4.1/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml shared by atremains. Thanks Dan!

Pours hazy maroon with an off-white head. Retains at a finger easily leaving some nice lacing.

Brett is really great in the scent, funky barnyardy cherries are huge. A pleasure to smell this one.

Follows the nose pretty closely except the brett is a bit weaker, it does come through more as it warms. Cherries, funk, vinegar, a little earthy. Good for sure but a little one-dimensional. The name translates to "sweetsour" I believe and it is exactly that, a good balance of sweet and sour.

Very smooth, light, drinkable. Carbonation is spot on. I'm pretty unfamiliar with this style but this felt pretty solid.

Serving type: bottle

12-19-2010 16:33:21 | More by Chico1985
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atremains

Massachusetts

4.5/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark red with a light eggnog colored head. Reduces to a thick pacing. Very full.
Cherry funk and a ton of citrus zest. Apple
Taste goes cherry-sour/funk-malt-cherry. Big cherry taste. Very smooth. The sour become more intense over time.
Very drinkable sour. Great balance

Serving type: bottle

12-19-2010 03:24:02 | More by atremains
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LtCracker20

Connecticut

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Portsmouth tulip.

A- Pours a solid brownish/red with no clarity. Thin 1 finger head that recedes quickly to a cap that shows good retention.

S- Sour cherries first, followed by an artificial grape sweetness.

T- Very earthy. Good sourness, cherries and other fruitiness, but that fake grape flavor is still there, but it does lessen as you drink it.

MF/D- Moderater body with decent carbonation. Drinkability is good, but would be better if it wasn't for that damn grape soda flavor. Nice dryness in the finish.

Serving type: bottle

11-26-2010 21:58:07 | More by LtCracker20
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Thorpe429

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed from notes.

Poured into a tulip glass. The color is a red amber with a good light tan head and some lacing. The nose is red wine, tart cherries, mild vinegar, and a bit of funk. The taste adds in a bit of oak and is a bit heavy on the acetic acid. Good puckering feel with some light funk and oak. Drinks quite well; another enjoyable brew from De Proef.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2010 21:59:59 | More by Thorpe429
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jeffjeff1

California

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My wife picked this up today.

Appearance- dark red color, thick foamy head

Smell- cherry, spice

Taste- cherry, spice

Mouthfeel- light to medium bodied, very nice

Drinkability- pretty good, I like it. I would definitely like to have it again. Very nice

Serving type: bottle

10-31-2010 20:50:26 | More by jeffjeff1
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vandemonian

Maryland

3.65/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Zoetzuur has a cloudy red-amber colour and a a huge foamy head that lasts forever. It has a strong smell of sweet cherries and hops.
The strongest taste is the sour cherries and some hops. There is a good balance between the maltiness and the hops though. Fruity alcohol and sourness was evident in the aftertaste. There is very little carbonation so it was a little flat in the mouth. As I drank more of this, the sourness became too strong.

Serving type: bottle

10-23-2010 01:29:19 | More by vandemonian
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Douglas14

California

3/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours out a dark amber color withblittle to no head. The smell is very interesting. It has a slight lactic and acetic sourness along with a meat-like quality. Partially good partially bad. On the palate it is much better. There is a slight residual sweetness to acompany the sourness that is very nice. A downside is the same aroma comes back up through the back of my nose, bringing with it the meat quality. The beer grows on me though as I drink more of it.

Serving type: bottle

09-15-2010 05:32:00 | More by Douglas14
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chefkevlar

South Carolina

4.13/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a ruby red color with a thick layer of finely textured peach colored head.

S: The cherry is present in the aroma, along with hints of honey, spice, and a little bit of belgian funk.

T: The flavor is complex, with a slight tartness to balance out some sweet fruit flavors. Overall the flavor is slightly less bold than I expected, but it is exceptional.

M: Medium to light body with plenty of carbonation and

D: Not something that can be downed quickly but definately a very enjoyable beverage.

Serving type: bottle

09-11-2010 03:21:40 | More by chefkevlar
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ATPete

New Jersey

3.23/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

750ml bottle

Pours a red/brown color with a small off white head. I get alot of strawberry and a port-like sweetness on the nose, a slight acidity and a light sour twang. Round, sweet with a sour/bitter finish, rich cherry candy sweetness. A dessert sipper possibly, a bit too rich for my tastes although the beer is pretty medium in body. I probably wont finish this bottle or the other 5 i somehow came into along the road, another strange brew from De Proef..

Serving type: bottle

08-15-2010 21:56:07 | More by ATPete
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jmhart

Georgia

1.9/5  rDev -51.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Picked this up at Hop City based on the recommendation of many BAs.

750mL poured into a snifter shared with Mrandypandy.

A- Poured a deep mahogany, but showed some brilliant, red delicious hints when held up to the light. Not much carbonation, but that's standard.

S- Some definite acetic notes, apples, and grapes. Not the greatest sour smell, but it shows promise.

T- Apple juice. Tastes like all natural unfiltered apple juice. The kind you get at a farmer's market where they grind the apples right in front of you. Overly sweet with no sour notes at all. Really disappointing.

M- Medium bodied with not much carbonation. It's got a decent mouth feel...but so does unfiltered apple juice.

D- my tasting partner silently decided to abstain from the rest of this bottle, and I ended up pouring out my last glass. It was just not good.

Serving type: bottle

08-08-2010 17:11:40 | More by jmhart
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craytonic

District of Columbia

3.18/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pour is ruby red orange, nice head and lacing that persists. Great looking beer.
Smell: Candy cherries, not particularly funky, tart or sour
Taste: I get sweet black cherries, very fresh tasting, and not much else. Too sweet. I wonder if they have changed from some of the older bottles because I get no funk at all, it tastes pasteurized.
Mouthfeel: Nice lively creamy mouthfeel.
Drinkability: I didn't finish the bottle, this was just a little one dimensional.

Serving type: bottle

08-02-2010 02:46:19 | More by craytonic
Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 274 ratings.