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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

289 Ratings
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Ratings: 289
Reviews: 191
rAvg: 3.93
pDev: 13.74%
Wants: 27
Gots: 22 | FT: 0
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De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004)
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fairdinkum2

Georgia

3.8/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a large bottle in to a tulip glass. This Flemish ale is a very murky brown, almost muddy appearance with some particulates evident in the bottom of the glass. What little head quickly disappeared. No lacing to speak of.

Smells pretty typical of the style, sour cherries and apples.

Taste is a litlle disappointing. Doesn't have the tang of a Rodenbach or quite the pucker of La Folie. Has some cherry and sour fruit notes, but overall the taste profile is just a little flat. Low carbonation, so this is pretty easy to put away, but I probably would look at other choices.

Serving type: bottle

03-27-2010 22:18:26 | More by fairdinkum2
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mj001jk

California

4.83/5  rDev +22.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy amber with reddish tones. Thick and creamy head of foam which persists, leaving an aromatic carpet of foam which jumps with citrus, cherries and bourbon. The hops cut the crisp maltiness with its subtle character and it is all freshness, very vibrant and joyful. I am really getting into the nose here...give me a minute or three...

Perfect carbonation and mouthfeel, a vibrant yet substantial character which slowly releases sweetness and dried fruit as it subsides. Dried apricot, sour cherries and ripe apples dominate the finish. The sourness accentuates but doesn't overpower, just like the champagne-like dryness; it is a tightrope act of finesse and balance, much appreciated by a novice to the world of sour beers. This one takes the cake for me.

I ended up pouring some into my 5gl batch of Kriek fermenting away in the bathroom. It is going to end up quite the potpourri.

Serving type: bottle

03-25-2010 04:25:33 | More by mj001jk
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mwilbur

Minnesota

4.6/5  rDev +17%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured from 750 mL bottle into tulip.
A: Pours a nice red with hint of brown around the edges. Cloudy with backlighting. Nice 1/2 inch white head with good retention and excellent sticky lacing (clings to the glass forever).
S: Perfectly balanced sweet and sour notes. Cherry, sour lemon, brettanomyces and other yeast.
T: Sweet cherry, sour lemon, fresh yeast, creamy milk, apple cider vinegar, soft oak, and other fruit notes. Again, perfectly balanced sweet and sour.
M: Soft and silky smooth upfront. Transitions to a sour bite which lingers and gradually diminishes.
D: Oh, sweet nectar of the gods. The definition of drinkability. Complex enough to keep your interest through the entire bottle and yet light enough (ABV 7%) to make it sessionable. Another simply wonderful brew from The Prof.

Serving type: bottle

03-17-2010 04:17:55 | More by mwilbur
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Huhzubendah

District of Columbia

3.58/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Split a 750ml with my wife.

A: Beautiful ruby color with a whipped meringue head that lingers for several minutes, leaving big lacing. Awesome appearance!

S: Sweet cherries and wild yeast, definitely in that order

T: SWEET! sour. This is beer is much sweeter than it is sour. I was really expecting and hoping for a better balance between the two. Sweet cherries and cherry juice dominate the flavors, so much so that I feel I may be missing out on other complexities in this beer. There is only a hint of sourness, along with a yeasty, bread-like quality. The flavor is tasty and done well, but heavily favoring sweet cherry.

M: Sweet and smooth. Average feel.

D: I couldn't even finish my glass. The sweetness becomes very cloying, and quickly.

Serving type: bottle

03-15-2010 03:54:35 | More by Huhzubendah
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froghop

Washington

3.68/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

pours a cloudy brown with a red tint, a small off-white head, and some lacing.

smell is of sour malt, wild yeast, a touch of caramel, and spice.

taste is sour, wild yeast, fruit, and some caramel, ends nicely tart, and dry.

overall a nice red ale, maybe more of a sour ale.

Serving type: bottle

02-22-2010 00:18:15 | More by froghop
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TurdFurgison

Ohio

4.63/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, corked and caged, bought for $12.99 at Rozi's in Cleveland last week. For whatever reason I've never seen this on shelves before, surprising given there are already so many reviews. I grabbed it without a second thought, as De Proefbrouwerij makes quality wild ales.

This beer has a glorious appearance, reddish orange and clear with a slight chill haze, thick rocky poofs of off-white foam. This is the perfect Flanders Red visual. The aroma is really strong with brettanomyces, sharp and funky, leather and dark fruit like plums and cherries. Nice subtle malts, earthy and authentically Belgian.

This beer just doesn't disappoint by any measure. Damn, it tastes delicious and perfect. Makes you wonder why people rave over legitimately good American wild ales while never mentioning Belgian greats beyond Cantillon. Cherry/plum alcohol, nice sweet counterplay, the sour doesn't reach bracing levels but is rather well balanced by the sweet malt and sugar. Tart, refreshing, addictive. Soft body, silky-like with just enough carbonation, very good.

Serving type: bottle

02-20-2010 02:09:41 | More by TurdFurgison
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ktrillionaire

Florida

2.88/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

G – Tulip

A – Hazy red-brown, somewhat drab with a decent head from a hard pour and a wee bit of lacing.

S – For the style, only moderately sour; it smells like apple cider, white grape juice and also a bit like pink wine.

T – If it’s cold, it’s fairly unspectacular; if it warms up, it takes on a bit more liveliness. It is, regardless, disappointing. It has a wine quality to it, it is vaguely sour and fruity, it has a wheaty element, and other than that I should mention that I am not terribly impressed. It also has a red wine aftertaste, like Cabernet perhaps. The problem is that it has a very muted and mild taste, relative to the already subtle nose, and relative to the style especially. To be an optimist, I would say it is very chuggable; not necessarily what I am looking for in a Flanders Red. I would say stick with widely available sours like Petrus' Aged Pale or Oud Bruin, or Verhaeghe's Vichtenaar or Duchesse.

M – The feel is ok, but not great; somewhat thin, under-carbonated, and with a drying finish.

D – Overall, this beer is a weak example of one of the greatest styles of beer in the world.

Serving type: bottle

02-13-2010 22:58:55 | More by ktrillionaire
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lonestar4lunch

Texas

4.45/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Been really getting into sour ales and took a shot with this one. Got home and saw it got great reviews so really looking forward to this one.
This one pours a beautiful dark red with a nice head that slowly settles to lacing around the top. The aroma is strong of dark cherries, tartness and some metallic notes.
The taste really starts off with the sweet cherries than quickly moves to a sour apple tartness that overtakes the tongue. The more this warms up the more the sour really mellows and becomes very enjoyable. Carbonation is perfect and the complete sip from beginning to end is very smooth, very drinkable for the style.
I really enjoyed this bottle and will for sure be picking up a couple more to share with others. Very good example of the style and already having a few other sour ales this would be a great one to begin your introduction.

Serving type: bottle

02-03-2010 02:13:09 | More by lonestar4lunch
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DoubleJ

California

2.9/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Let's go sweet and sour tonight. On to the beer:

Poured into an oversized wine glass, this beer features a clouded light brown/tanned color. Average head retention, with polka-dot lacing sticking to the glass initially. The beer has both that sweet and sour aroma. Strawberries and caramel is the best way to put it. The grain is a little bit musty.

Very mild flavor. The flavor intensity on this one is very low to my surprise. There is a touch of that vinegary sour flavor, but it's not going to make you think it's salad dressing. Very lighty tart. A little sweet. Faint strawberry, hint of those caramel chews. Watermelon is hinted as well. I wish the flavor were more intense. Well, at loeast it feels like a Flanders Red...it has a good body, firm bubbles....no overcarbonation or thin feel. The aftertaste seems musty, and doesn't amount to anything exciting. It's drinkable, but not interesting...but I got 750 ml to drink, so away I go...

Why are you still reading this? Give this a pass.

Serving type: bottle

01-15-2010 06:18:51 | More by DoubleJ
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Aggy360

Alaska

2.83/5  rDev -28%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy reddish brown with nice beige head. Leaves a light web-like lace on the glass

A: Slightly sour aroma. Sweet peaches and some bacteria (Lacto & Brett, I believe).

T: Tart. Sweet malts, and it seem like there is some wheaty flavors. Very mild sour cherries and some peaches.

M: Medium light body. Dry finish.

O: A well balenced Fanders Red. Easy drinker for the style, there are other sour ales that will blow it away on the pucker rating. As the beer warms more complexities come through. I would recommend this to someone who has not tried a sour ale, before introducing them to more "in-your-face" sour beers.

Serving type: bottle

01-09-2010 08:07:14 | More by Aggy360
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meeekyh

Colorado

3.53/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml bottle into a fin du monde glass.

Really nice head and amber-ruby color. Lacing abounds as the head dissipates.

The smell is tangy cherry and apricot and funk.

Tangy, tangy. I have not tried this style before but it reminds me of a lambic with its tartness and acid tang. There is a bit of sweetness and tart cherry seems to predominate the palate.

Mouthfeel is thin and light. Finish is dry.

I would say not the most drinkable thing out there due to the acidic nature and dryness in the finish.

Not too bad. I expect it reflects the style and that I will be trying more of the same as the chance arises.

Serving type: bottle

01-05-2010 05:17:10 | More by meeekyh
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snaotheus

Washington

4.33/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle split into pint glasses. Got it at Binny's in Orland Park

Pours a dark reddish brown with a fast fading beige head. Cloudy beer, slight lacing. Smells very sour, mostly cherries.

Taste is sweet-tart, cherry and strawberry, very pleasant.

Mouthfeel is light and smooth. Very drinkable as a sour ale. I like it.

Serving type: bottle

12-28-2009 03:28:13 | More by snaotheus
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wspscott

Kentucky

4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml in Duvel tulip

A: Dark reddish brown color with a little bit of haze, pours with a huge fluffy white head that drops quickly, but leaves a ton of lace.
S: Relatively muted when cold, just a hint of sweet/sour notes. As it warms, there are hints of fruits (cherries) and wood.
T: Tart and sour, but a lot of sweetness underneath. Lots of cherries, both sour and sweet. As it warms it gets a little astrigent, but not in a bad way.
M: On the mouth filling side vs. the over-attenuated side (Duvel). Highly carbed, but not crisp, comes across as thin and "rich" at the same time. Even as it warms, it still has a "creaminess" to it, but doesn't come across as heavy.
D: My first sip was awesome, the next weren't so awe-inspiring, but this is a great beer. I am having no problem finishing this 750, not sure I would reach for another right now, but I would happily drink this again. Well worth seeking out, highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

12-12-2009 22:34:44 | More by wspscott
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Onibubba

Kentucky

3.83/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

No noticable sound as the cork is pulled. Tawny port color, slight beige head. Good retention, but nothing sticky. Initial aroma is all sweet tart sour. This dies down a bit once the beer has had a chance to relax. Taste is most similar to Victinaar, but nowhere near as rich. This is more earthy. I pick up more raisons than tart apple or cherry. Slight funkiness, slight sour edge.

Not my favorite of the style, but this beer does become more appealing as it warms. The complexities make themselves more appearant. That also makes this beer more of a sipper than its counterparts.

All in all, a good beer, but not a repeat purchase for me, and not a substitute for my poor missing Rodenbach.

Serving type: bottle

12-09-2009 22:55:59 | More by Onibubba
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dza360

Kansas

4.53/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a muddy opaque copper, thin white head lingers throughout the glass.

Smell immediately leaves a sour and musty funk impression which leaves my mouth watering. Beyond the initial funk is some earthy and metallic notes.

The beer tastes outstanding... having tried 3 or 4 different takes on the style this one stands out as the most balanced I have come across. The sour is present for sure, but it has so much more to offer compared to the other examples of the style I have tried. Their is a distinct dryness coupled with a green apple bite like you might find in a white wine. Nothing is overbearing and I am just enjoying the bottle more and more as it warms. The carbonation is moderate to low and just fine for this brew.

I would rate the drink ability high for this style because of the great balance achieved. With other sours I have had a hard time finishing a bottle, but this one keeps me wanting more.

Can't say enough about how much I admire this brew from a fine brewery. De Proef has been a great find for me so far and this brew is at the top of the list.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2009 05:46:54 | More by dza360
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davexisxrabid

California

4.13/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into my Bruery tulip. Nice copper/amber color, cloudy when held up to the light. Nice fluffy inch tall head, lots of lacing, good retention.

Aroma is typically sour, lemon rind, sweet and sour sauce aroma.

Light wheat bread taste at first, then hits with a sour twist. There seems to be a citrus hop bitterness in there as well. Not too tart and a slightly sweet flavor finishes up at the end.

Light to medium bodied. Well carbonated but not overdone. The lingering sweet and sour flavor is interesting; doesn't seem sour enough to give you heartburn or anything.

Good flavor all around and a nice presentation. A nice flemish ale that I would have again if the opportunity presented itself.

Serving type: bottle

11-24-2009 05:05:10 | More by davexisxrabid
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Billolick

New York

4.22/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Large bottle, typical Belgian broad shouldered bottle. Pours tequilla sunrise red, the head is soft, fluffy head a dull shade of medium khaki, that leaves thick sheeting and reveals an earthy nose, with some funky components. This a spiced up and warming brew. Spices seem to be in the neighborhood of mild holiday. Tasty and complex, with notes of ripe cherries and other fruits as it warms and opens up. Delicious brew. Interesting and different. Eclectic Belgian lovers will surely enjoy this one

Serving type: bottle

11-20-2009 04:29:12 | More by Billolick
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rtepiak

Poland

4.28/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

a nice balanced flemish red with a mild sour and a unique mild bitter earthy finish of tobacco and fruit. not as dark as most but still not to off the wall. really nice head. nose of floral cherry and a some alcohol. not too yeasty. earthiness is almost a mildly burnt clove that blend wonderfully with the oak and cherry and soft sweet. not metallic in mineral nature. very nice. very good example of the style.

Serving type: bottle

11-08-2009 06:20:02 | More by rtepiak
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Mitchster

Michigan

4.47/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

$9.99 for a 750ml bottle, corked and caged. Mixed fermentation "sweet and sour". 7% ABV.

Pours out to a moderately cloudy dark brown, forming a modest off-yellow head with good retention and lacing. Carbonation is medium, not effervescent like alot of belgians can get when naturally fermented in the bottle. The aroma is mouth watering...at first black walnuts, then sour cherries, then distant malt vinegar and basement must and dust. Definitely Brett in there with the barnyard funk going on. The mouthfeel is moderately dry with a medium body Taste is tart and fruity, with a touch of bitterness akin to a sour cherry, with some metals in the finish, like someone left a penny in the bottle. There is some definite oakines and tannic woodiness throughout and leaves the taste of wood in the mouth for the aftertaste. Alcohol is imperceptable in taste or nose.

I wish this were a tad sweeter. The tartness is wonderful but needs to be balanced by more sweetness. I'd still have to go with Rodenbach, Duchesse, or Goudenband over this, but it's still a very enjoyable brew.

Serving type: bottle

09-02-2009 21:34:15 | More by Mitchster
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madtowndmb1

Wisconsin

3.35/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This poured the classic mahogany color with almost no head and a little fizz rising up. The smell was nice, mildly fruity with a dry hint in there. The taste was lacking in my opinion. Not much depth, the up front kriek was there from them adding "cherry juice", but no dryness to back it up. It was drinkable but I probably wouldn't go after it again. Monk's Cafe is a decent amount better as an entry in to the style for some.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2009 00:04:33 | More by madtowndmb1
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socalde

California

4.45/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a bottle of this at Stone Sour Fest '09. I would highly recommend this beer to friends and connoisseurs alike.

A- Cloudy, dark tan in color. No residual head, but poured a beautiful white marshmallow.

S- Slightly tart smelling, obvious acidity with notes of fruit (cranberry?). It has a some other notes that I couldn't quite identify, giving the beer a kind of mysterious quality.

T- Very tart and a tantalizing punch of sour. However, nothing overpowers. This beer had an earthy feel and taste to it, with light but noticeable hop bitterness and a subtle fruity characteristic, something like the cranberries I detected in the nose. A very tasty beer indeed!

M- Consistent mouthfeel, a great example of the Flanders Red style.

D- Very drinkable considering the style.

Serving type: bottle

07-25-2009 22:10:15 | More by socalde
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timtim

District of Columbia

4.03/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

this one seemed to be on the mild side of flanders red, but balance seemed to be the name of the game. gorgeous dark red with a pink tan tint to the head. very good retention and lace. don't normally see that in flemish reds. nose and taste exhibit wood plank, earthy worm casting, dark fruit and a touch of cider. not extreme, but extremely pleasant. silky smooth and yummy. unique and traditional at the same time to me for this style.

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2009 15:25:38 | More by timtim
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twiggamortis420

Texas

4.8/5  rDev +22.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark copper color with a fine-bubbled, fluffy light tan head. Very good retention and lacing.

Smell is perfectly funky and wild with equal parts rotting wood and sour berry tartness. Raspberry puree with maybe a bit of blackberry and cherry notes. Not much malt or hops on the nose, but that is ok with me for this style. This beer smells delicious, a joy to sniff!

Mouth puckering sour tartness takes the lead by a slim margin over the brettomyces funk and cedar plank flavors. Some lighter berry notes come through with some strawberries and sour cherries. Earthy in it's own way with some of the caramely malt sweetness making an appearance as it warms a bit. Wonderful sour beer, one of my favorites.

Serving type: bottle

07-04-2009 14:30:44 | More by twiggamortis420
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TheNapkin

Texas

3.98/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Amber, almost a light soda color. Very thin head, visible effervescence, dark sedimentation that sifts to the bottom of the glass.

S: Sour raspberries, whiffs of cider, sniff of red grapes. Sort of like Lindemann Framboise's lighter brother (smell is not nearly as intensely jammy as Lindemann's Framboise). Slightly metallic, coppery smell if you're not careful and pour too big a head.

T: Same as the smell, but just a notch sweeter. It should be noted that even though the beer tastes sour, vaguely lambic-like, and has strong raspberry notes, it doesn't deliver the overwhelming sugar bomb that certain fruit-fortified lambics do. This beer serves as a nice substitute for those who find these lambics thick, cloying and hardly satisfying when you want a beer that tastes like a beer (it's also cheaper than a lot of lambics too; bargain, Win!). If you want a beer masquerading as a soda, reach for a Lindemann's; if you want a beer that tastes like a beer, has hints of fruit, and moderate sourness, get this De Proef. It has a nice dryness on the front of the tongue and the back and would pair nicely with foods you'd normally drink a dry white wine with.

M: Light and bubbly on the tongue. A real treat.

D: In terms of De Proef beers, the funk element here is hardly detectable, which makes the beer very drinkable. Good balance of sourness and the malts.

Serving type: bottle

06-18-2009 03:48:45 | More by TheNapkin
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Bitterbill

Wyoming

4.3/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of joe1510. Thanks Joe!

A big pop when I removed the faux cork, it pours a clear ruby red with a one finger head of foam and shows a ton of nice lacing.

The smell is fruity sour with big notes of cherries and a very light note of something sweet. Maybe I'll figure that out when I taste it.

The taste starts off tart with the cherries and green apples but quickly is matched head to head with a nice honey like and maybe fruity sweetness. Man, this one is sweet & sour but neither wants to take center stage and for me, that works very damn well for my palate, not so much for what I'd expect for the style. It sure is easy to drink though so I can't complain all that much. Heck, now I'm tasting a bit of funk that I didn't notice when the beer was a bit colder. A plus in my book.

Medium bodied with medium carbonation, it finishes decidedly on the sweet side. Head rention seemed to get better with every pour and the lacing is just outstanding.

Drinkability? No problems with the abv, plenty of flavour, I'll have no problem finishing the last pour from the bottle which, btw, is decidely cloudy now. A very enjoyable brew and I again thank Joe for his generosity and spirit of adventure as I don't think that I'd have ever sought this beer out on my own. When I visit a beer store with a lot of Belgians, I get overwhelmed! ;^)

Serving type: bottle

06-14-2009 16:35:32 | More by Bitterbill
Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 289 ratings.