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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Zoetzuur Flemish AleZoetzuur Flemish Ale

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193 Reviews
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Reviews: 193
Hads: 335
Avg: 3.94
pDev: 17.26%
Wants: 30
Gots: 30 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Flanders Red Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: marburg on 11-15-2004

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Reviews: 193 | Hads: 335
Photo of koopa
4.13/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle purchased at Buyrite Liquors in South Plainfield NJ.

Appearance: When held up to the light the body is an attractive blood orange with pure orange corners. Nice 2.5 finger head of slightly off white head. Great retention and lacing everywhere.

Smell: Overripe tangerines and blood oranges meet bret yeast. Its bold and powerful but not my cup of tea.

Taste: This is NOT a good example of a Flanders Red by any stretch of the imagination. However, this FR meets Wild Ale cluster F@ck is mighty tasty. The Bret. yeast is really stealing the show. The initial taste is a touch sweet but the finish is pure dryness.

Mouthfeel: Quite creamy and well carbonated. Medium bodied.

Drinkablility: Good for being such a bret. driven brew.

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Photo of yemenmocha
4.65/5  rDev +18%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours somewhere between an iced tea brown and ruby red, depending on width of glass and the angle. Very appealing. Nose is thick and dollop-like, reminding me of an old-fashioned root beer float in childhood.

Nose is an explosion of ripe fruits such as apricot, green apples, honeydew, and canteloupe. There's a hint of yeastiness or fresh bread in there too.

On the palate the body is noticeably thick and creamy, with flavours of mixed fruits that challenge you for identification. Sometimes grape, sometimes black cherry, sometimes apple. Interesting thing is that the nose suggests one set of fruits, but oddly enough on the palate another set of fruits make an appearance.

Very easy drinking with a soft, medium length finish.

This Flemish Ale is a pleasant surprise.

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Photo of harrymel
2.42/5  rDev -38.6%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Unknown age on the bottle, but it was in the discount bin, which means it was at least one year on the shelves...

Poured to NB globe.

A: Pours a hazy mahogany ale with little to no head formation despite turbulent pour. Affluent peanut colored film is broken sans evident carbonation.

S: Raisins, prunes,,,,dark fruits dominate the nose. Quite difficult for me to discern. As advertised, sweet and sour. Very reserved as far as flemish ale's go.

T: More tart than I had anticipated. This is quite nice. However, the fruits continue to limit the appreciable flemish qualities one would anticipate. As the ale resonates, I start to sense the cherries typical of the style.

M: medium bodied, low carbonation.

D: Having a hard time enjoying this one. It's tolerable, but I wish the bottle wasn't 750ml's. ended up pouring half out.

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Photo of GCBrewingCo
4.2/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer poured into the chalice light amber with an off-white low persistent head which lasted to lace the glass.

The aroma was tart and acidic with a bit of a lactic nature. Behind the acidity lurked a light caramel presence. The aroma was estery with a light cherry fruity nature and an earthy and slightly citrus light hop presence.

The flavor was very lightly tart and tangy with a bready nature and some Brett presence. The flavor was a nice balance of malt presence and acidity with a lightly earthy and again slightly citric character. A bit of oak was notable.

The finish was dry with lasting pleasant tarness and citric character into the aftertaste. The body was medium with a moderate carbonation. The tartness was well restrained in the flavor making a very interesting combination of flavors which were easy to consume.

750 ml bottle.

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Photo of allengarvin
4.33/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Duvel glass, this has a rusty brown color, with a persistent and thick inch-tall head. Fruity, very tart aroma, with a nice musty-cellar earthiness. Wow, a lot more brett-like character comes through in the flavor than I expected, or is usual for the style, and less sourness. There's a nice cheesy leather flavor up front, with a sour cherry fruitiness winding things up. There's even some drying bitterness in the middle that makes things rather interesting. Very curious, unique, and quite tasty!

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Photo of Mitchster
4.49/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

$9.99 for a 750ml bottle, corked and caged. Mixed fermentation "sweet and sour". 7% ABV.

Pours out to a moderately cloudy dark brown, forming a modest off-yellow head with good retention and lacing. Carbonation is medium, not effervescent like alot of belgians can get when naturally fermented in the bottle. The aroma is mouth watering...at first black walnuts, then sour cherries, then distant malt vinegar and basement must and dust. Definitely Brett in there with the barnyard funk going on. The mouthfeel is moderately dry with a medium body Taste is tart and fruity, with a touch of bitterness akin to a sour cherry, with some metals in the finish, like someone left a penny in the bottle. There is some definite oakines and tannic woodiness throughout and leaves the taste of wood in the mouth for the aftertaste. Alcohol is imperceptable in taste or nose.

I wish this were a tad sweeter. The tartness is wonderful but needs to be balanced by more sweetness. I'd still have to go with Rodenbach, Duchesse, or Goudenband over this, but it's still a very enjoyable brew.

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Photo of Metalmonk
4.4/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a big billowy head, off-white and remarkably creamy. The liquid is indeed quite red, a fiery, rusty, burnt red. Slashes and splats of lace all around the glass.

Wonderful aroma, sure to tickle the nose hairs of any Belgian enthusiast. Yeast is fruity and slightly funky, a little bit musty, and overall the vibe of cellar-stored crates of various fruits prevails (apples, grapes, cherries).

Intensely fruity and reasonably funky on the tongue. Fruits so far mentioned are joined by an almost melon-like uniqueness (muskmelon, honeydew). Kind of a woody exterior too, like old, musty wood, which adds some complexity and earthiness, and mellows the other flavors. It doesn't seem to have all that much depth at first, but with each sip a new facet emerges. I also dig that this isn't one-dimensionally sour, the way some of these kinds of beers tend to be.

Body is fairly crisp; finishes dry, when a slight and manageable pucker reminds you what sort of Belgian you're drinking. A little lighter in body than expected, but that only increases its accessibility.

Ridiculously easy to drink, especially at 7%. DeProef continues to be my favorite Belgian brewery at the moment. Their list of amazing beers is something else, and I'm not even considering the people they contract-brew for.

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Photo of Beaver13
2.88/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

750 ml bottle. Pours hazy reddish amber with a smallish creamy white head that goes to a thin film and leaves some lacing.

The aroma is tart sour cherries and some funky yeast with a little wood.

The flavor is sweet sugary cherries with a little sour tartness. There are some acidic cardboard notes and a bit of an odd finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, it's almost good. Too sweet with odd off-notes.

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Photo of donkeyrunner
4.11/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Dark burgundy with a large of white head. Great retention, lasts longer than most of this style.

Smells primarily of cherry juice with a dessert-like cinnamon brown sugar edge. Hints of MaCintosh apple peel.

Tastes like cherry juice up front with a hint of darker fruit in back. Grape? Black cherry? Something like that. "Fluffy mouthfeel." Brown sugar and bruised apple.

Not as funky as I'd like in a red. The malt possesses great depth and character but needs more funky foil.

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Photo of Crosling
2.48/5  rDev -37.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark copper, old currency color with a large white head aloft. Moderate Flemish Sour aroma, with mild apple aromatics and sugary fruit. Not really any oak or sour yeast chartacter, although it does smell slightly musty. Really mild overall, lacking character and depth and possessingly a mildly tart apple flavor. On the finish, however, is a very sugary, sweetened fruitiness, that begins after the swallow and is very sweet and cinnamon like. It’s very sweet overall, presumably sweetened. This is a very poor example of a Flemish Sour in my opinion. Almost laughably bad and the sweetness lingers.

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Photo of OtherShoe2
4/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours medium brown with reddish hues and a foamy white head. Some spotty lacing.

Nice sour cherry and tart malt notes.

Sour fruit in the mouth, with some stone fruit pit bitterness coming up from the rear. Nice malt and fruit balance, with a little malty/bitter give and take at the end. Nice beer.

Medium bodied, nice mouthfeel.

Overall, solid version f the style. A welcoming volume with the bomber providing plenty to appreciate. Try this.

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Photo of BretSikkink
4.36/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Red orange in color, a bit darker than that really, lighter around the edges though. Super sticky head, off white in color, and thick. Massive, 3-D lacing. This is a beauty no matter what style.

Funky Brett yeast dominates the nose, while also giving off plenty of cherry bitterness. A little too much towards the funk on this one, but still really nice. Same again in the mouth: too much of the barnyard, musty flavor while not giving the cherries a chance to shine. Probably some oak aging going on, this one retains a nice woody character.

Sweet, sour, oaky, delicious. Highly recommended.

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Photo of ktrillionaire
2.94/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

G – Tulip

A – Hazy red-brown, somewhat drab with a decent head from a hard pour and a wee bit of lacing.

S – For the style, only moderately sour; it smells like apple cider, white grape juice and also a bit like pink wine.

T – If it’s cold, it’s fairly unspectacular; if it warms up, it takes on a bit more liveliness. It is, regardless, disappointing. It has a wine quality to it, it is vaguely sour and fruity, it has a wheaty element, and other than that I should mention that I am not terribly impressed. It also has a red wine aftertaste, like Cabernet perhaps. The problem is that it has a very muted and mild taste, relative to the already subtle nose, and relative to the style especially. To be an optimist, I would say it is very chuggable; not necessarily what I am looking for in a Flanders Red. I would say stick with widely available sours like Petrus' Aged Pale or Oud Bruin, or Verhaeghe's Vichtenaar or Duchesse.

M – The feel is ok, but not great; somewhat thin, under-carbonated, and with a drying finish.

D – Overall, this beer is a weak example of one of the greatest styles of beer in the world.

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Photo of rye726
4.4/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Nice reddish brown color with a creamy tan head. The nose has tart fruits, ripe berries and musky barnyard wood. The taste is similar. Perhaps not as potent as other red's, but has a nice balance between sweet malts, tart citrus and oaky funk. Crisp body suits ale well. A superb brew and my new favorite from DeProef.

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Photo of CampusCrew
3.83/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

appearance: garnet with lots of stick lacing, decent head rentetion for the style

aromas: subtle cherries and wild yeast

taste: well the flavors are subtle to compared to others ion catergory. cherry, like vinegar, not over powering sour by any means, off aftertaste

mouthfeel: light to medium bodied

drinkability: decent by also one of the worst Ive had in the style

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Photo of JDV
2.86/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Shared at tasting with Fly, Dewbrewer, Humulone_Red and others. Thanks guys!
Rich amber colored pour with a small beige head. Smell is lightly sour with cherry, mildish funky feet like aroma, and hints of cheese. Mild tartness and a subtle cheese like flavor in the finish, I thought. Very dry overall and with light sweetness. Went very well with the bleu cheese. Nice beer, and I'm starting to get more interested in the style. Thanks for sharing this one Alan!

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Photo of Bierguy5
3.7/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at The Map Room in Chicago. Cloudy dark copper, with some red hues. White fluffy head disappears quickly, however it did leave behind some very nice lace.

Sour berry, leathery, earthy and horsey aroma. Pretty complex here.

Not overly sour, but tart. Lots of fruits and berries. A bit of grain following. Sweet, but well balanced. Not much bitterness, just a bit of earthy flavor at the end.

Light to medium body, with a good amount of carbonation. Very easy to drink, but still a bit complex. Nice.

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Photo of Rayek
3.62/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This deep garnet beer was had back to back with Duchesse De Bourgogne. It didn't hold up that well against what I consider to be the benchmark for this style, but is decent in own right.

The cherries in this carry the sweetness burden, along with some raisins and currants. Bitterness is mild and peppery. Overall the flavor comes across a bit thin to me. Like most beers of this style, I'm getting a red wine message that I like quite a bit.

If I hadn't drank this against Duchesse, I probably would have liked it more. Overall it's nice, but not great.

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Photo of snaotheus
4.3/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle split into pint glasses. Got it at Binny's in Orland Park

Pours a dark reddish brown with a fast fading beige head. Cloudy beer, slight lacing. Smells very sour, mostly cherries.

Taste is sweet-tart, cherry and strawberry, very pleasant.

Mouthfeel is light and smooth. Very drinkable as a sour ale. I like it.

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Photo of spoony
3.54/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

From a 750 ml bottle into a tulip glass.

A-The brew is a medium, nutty brown with ruby-red highlights. It is more clear than many oud bruins or Flemish reds. The two-finger-tall light-tan head drops quickly and leaves a little ring of lace. I cannot see any carbonation.

S-The smell is full of juicy cherry. I mean, it smells like real cherries, which is good, I guess, but it also gives it a sort-of stale aroma. There is also a bit of vanilla and a woody, lactic funkiness. There is not a lot of acid or vinous smell here and fruity sweetness dominates.

T-The taste, like the smell, is full of sweet, juicy cherry. There is more acid noticeable on the palate, but the acid doesn't really add complexity or balance the cherry flavors; rather, it just bites on the throat. There is also a touch of malty prune and raisin, and a drying woody flavor on the finish.

M-The feel is pretty standard for the style with lower carbonation levels, light to medium heft, and a drying finish.

O-This beer gets props for tasting like real cherry juice, but I'm not sure that real cherry juice flavor makes for a good beer in this instance. As noted above, it tastes more like a out-of-date kid's juice box than a Flanders Red Ale. A little more useful acidity might have helped here.

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Photo of DogFood11
4.15/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Certainly a sight to see. Corked and cage 750ml bottle poured into a tulip. It forms a meaty off white head that leaves a pretty good cover. Body is a light copper with reddish hue around the edges. Swirling fine carbonation.

Not as tart as some and leans more towards a sweet and sour type brew. The tart portion is up front and eventually gives way to a maltier sweet side. Purple grape skins and a touch of funk round this out. Not alot of oak comes through to me but the aging seems to have mellowed out the usual pucker up type tartness. A jolly rancher type sweet finish.

Notes: I liked this quite a bit. Far from the in your face versions. Maybe even a nice introductory offering. Kept my interest all the way through. Good.

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Photo of GJ40
4.1/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled from a 750ml bottle. Nice appearance with a reddish brown color and a moderate beige head. Lively. Aroma has fruit and a hint of the sour/tart/funk to come. The sour/tart/funky flavor is balanced and well behaved yet complex and inspiring. I really enjoyed it from start to finish.

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Photo of WynnO
3.36/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

All in all, a good Flemish Red.

The color is beautiful, yet the head seemed a bit weak.

On the down side, I detected a slight disagreeable component in the smell, almost certainly caused by the cherry juice. This beer's flavor is a bit weaker than other personal favorites (Duchesse and Rodenbach), but there is no doubt of it being a straight-ahead Flemish Red.

I would have no hesitation with buying another bottle.

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Photo of Chico1985
4.12/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml shared by atremains. Thanks Dan!

Pours hazy maroon with an off-white head. Retains at a finger easily leaving some nice lacing.

Brett is really great in the scent, funky barnyardy cherries are huge. A pleasure to smell this one.

Follows the nose pretty closely except the brett is a bit weaker, it does come through more as it warms. Cherries, funk, vinegar, a little earthy. Good for sure but a little one-dimensional. The name translates to "sweetsour" I believe and it is exactly that, a good balance of sweet and sour.

Very smooth, light, drinkable. Carbonation is spot on. I'm pretty unfamiliar with this style but this felt pretty solid.

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Photo of Phatz
4.58/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

I am not sure if it was hopdog, egajdzis or weeare138 who brought the Zoetzuur; they arrived together. Regardless, *huge* thanks.
This is actually not the typical Flanders Red, I love it is a bit more sour, which I love even more. The Lambic like sour nature with the wild yeasts and funk is a dream.

Appearance: poured out a beautiful dark caramel color with some golden copper highlights on the edges. Fantastic white foam head and very heavy lacing painting the Walls of my glass.

Smell: Sour apple. Apple cider. Applecider vinegar acidity, intense Brettanomyces sour funk, lactic, and fruity. An aged woodiness carries berries and spice and dark vinous flavors in through the nose. Simply irresistibly enticing.

Taste: The sour black cheery pucker and the big Brett flavor dominate the taste though a sweet red fruit juice and adequate malt profile balance a little bit. The lactic acidity keeps my cheeks stinging perfectly. the puck lasts a long time and the vanilla and wood lemon and cheery hang in my mouth ridiculously long after the swallow.

Mouthfeel: Very soft in the mouth with lively fine carbonation.

Drinkability: This one is not too sweet not too sour. It is a delicious easy drinking Red, for a sour fan. A bit unique, and a nice change of pace.

Hope this is helpful.

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Zoetzuur Flemish Ale from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 193 ratings.