De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins) - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins)De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins)

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Reviews: 140
Hads: 176
rAvg: 4.18
pDev: 10.53%
Wants: 25
Gots: 8 | FT: 1
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Patrick999 on 09-06-2008

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Photo of JAXSON
3.7/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2009 rate.

750ml bottle. Very torn on this one. On one hand, it has a lot of qualities I really seek and and admire -- well-integrated brett, wild, barnyard qualities, very pleasantly tart, sour, and funky, and a great tropical fruit presence. On the other hand, it verges on being disgusting in that it is not lacking in the pig manure and cat urine quality. I think an additional six months might clarify this issue. Really good, would be my assessment, could be wonderful if the yeast character changes a bit for the better in the bottle. The ultimate goal here would be to have the beer's rating rises to the level where Tertons would be willing to drink it (though it remains to be seen whether it is limited enough for that to happen). (742 characters)

Photo of chainsfan1
4.17/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

C: Low carbonation with a gold color and little to no head retention.

S: Sweet pineapple and pear

T: Front- over powered by the nose.
Middle- was very musty.
End- very pineapple and pear.

M: Front- smooth with no carbonation
Middle- Huge overpowering musty taste that hits the sides of the tongue but quickly leaves and is replaced by fruity candy sugar.
End- Pineapple and pear without a yeasty taste that honestly I was waiting for.

D: This is one beer that was fun to drink. I shared it with some friends and we all had a different experience with it! That to me is what it is all about. Drinking a brew and talking it over with some beer nerds. The fact that we all had different opinions about this one means that I want it again. So I recommend this to anyone that wants to experience something different. (819 characters)

Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.47/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured into a tulip glass from a 750ml bottle.
12-27-2010

A - Pours a slightly flat hazy orange liquid with some nice golden hints. There is almost no head at all. (3.5)

S - Aroma of ripe peaches, white grapes and nice vinous notes. Slight vinegar tartness is present. There are some soft bread notes on the back of the nose as well as some nice yeast phenols. The funk in this beer is pretty nice as well with slight husk notes and a bit of a musty farmhouse smell. (4.0)

T & M - The flavor is not as tart as expected based on the aroma but there is that slight vinous character, especially with some white wine note. Slight fruit juice sweetens particularly some apple, pear and some peach as well. This is a very delicious brew. The bread notes come in along with the fruit and balances the sweetness. The funk is also quite good and not too overwhelming or dry. The yeast notes play perfectly with the fruit sweetness the vinous tart notes to create a very well balanced Belgian Ale. You just have to love the way they use the Brett in this brew. Then what takes this beer near perfection is how the hop character is reminiscent of an American IPA with a slight peachy and tropical hop character. The body is nice and light and not overly dry. The carbonation is on the lower end of the spectrum but there is enough to add some crispness to the beer. The finish is great with some great balance of flavors. (4.5) (5.0)

D - Beer is delicious and I would have this readily available in my fridge if possible. Im actually glad I got more than 1 bottle of this. ABV is well hidden. (5.0) (1,591 characters)

Photo of Shaw
3.59/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A light amber in color with a sticky white head that reduces to a fine layer in my tulip glass.

Very complex aroma that reminds me of Christmas spice, with notes of banana.

Very earthy flavor, most likely from the complex yeasts used in this beer. Dry, with just a hint of malt sweetness and no real hop bitterness. High alcohol level is well hidden.

Oily mouthfeel.

Overall this is a very interesting example of the style. Quite different from the top rated ones, like Duvel, but worth trying for those fans of wild yeasts. (528 characters)

Photo of akorsak
2.68/5  rDev -35.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A corked (synthetic cork) and caged 750 mL bottle shared with ksak and janlud.

A: The ale has a brownish-orange auburn color, darker and opaque, with only a faint wisp of white head. No lacing with this one.

S: The ale has a dense, smokey fruit aroma that justs time spent in a whisky barrel. A few candied fruits are lingering around but they struggle against the sickly fullness. I'm not taking this as a good sign. As my notes say, infected or bleh.

T: The rich flavors, almost smokey, continue into the body. The denseness takes a while to reveal the pineapple flavors. They're there, just not very impressive. Brettanomyces? Where? Nothing doing on that front. I'm gonna chalk it up to a bad bottle and leave it there.

M and D: I lack the conviction to continue... (773 characters)

Photo of prototypic
4.42/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This Signature Ale release pours a bright copper color. A moderate amount of haze clouds the scene. It looks a little red when held to light. An impressive, off-white head tops it off. It's easily two and a half fingers in depth. Retention was very good, and a sticky, thick web of lace trailed down the glass.

The nose is extremely impressive. It's very fruity and a little sweet initially. Pineapple is the centerpiece. Apple, pear, and a little lemon round it out. Musk and funk are certainly noted. The presence of Brett can't be denied. While it's easily noted, it's not an overly strong funky scent. That's a positive. It blends in nicely. It smells a little spicy on the tail, but that aspect is subtle. Alcohol is masked extremely well. At the end of the day, it smells very deep and complex and...delicious.

The flavor is very impressive. It kicks with a strong fruit flavor. Pineapple is easily strongest, and resonates throughout. Apple, pear, and lemon all follow. It tastes a little sweet and sugary, but it's far from overbearing. Due to the Brett presence, it's musky and funky. Those flavors add a ton of depth and complement the other flavors extremely well. I'm pleased to report that the funky flavor is moderate, rather than overwhelming. In a word...delicious. Clove and pepper spices add more depth and flavor. There's even a lively Noble hop flavor that's a nice touch. And Let us not forget the very flavorful Belgian yeast. Alcohol is lost in the shuffle. It finishes a little tangy with a funky twist.

The body here is light, leaning medium. It's too thin. It somehow manages to be smooth, but it would benefit from more body. Carbonation is also a little too buzzy. Drinkability, on the other hand, is extremely high. This is damn tasty stuff that's difficult to sip. It's too tasty. A 750 you ask? It might not be enough.

This collaborative effort by De Proefbrouwerij and Jason Perkins of Allagash is fantastic. There's very little to criticize negatively. The flavor itself is very deep and satisfying. I guess the body feels a little too thin, but that hardly ruins it. All other cylinders are firing nicely. I don't know how many of these bottles are left out there, but do yourself a favor and find one. Honestly, I enjoyed this one every bit as much as the collaboration with Tomme Arthur. Find a bottle. (2,342 characters)

Photo of rfgetz
4.42/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky orangy brown with nice poof of cream colored head. Good retention and sticky lacing. Smell is of earthy funk backed by fresh grain, bread, touches of pear and apple. Taste a blend of fresh grains, musty earth, notes of semi-sharp cheese, backed by a sweet bready taste and hints of the pear and apple. Medium bodied, grainyness to it. A wonderful beer drinking experience, the scent makes you think complete funk while the taste is nothing but original and unique. Highly recomended. (497 characters)

Photo of zeff80
4.39/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured out a cloudy/murky brown color with a tan, foamy head of thick foam. It left some soapy residue on the glass.

S - It smelled of spice and some barnyard funk. There were also fruity notes of pear and apple.

T - This one had a good funky taste with sweet maltiness - a graham cracker like flavor. Pear and apple flavors came through nicely, too.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium-bodied ale with a dry finish.

D - This is a really great tasting beer. Very unique beer. It has aged well. (510 characters)

Photo of scootny
4.35/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

An exquisite beer of delicate construction. A musty orange color and an off white head of slight stature but a tenacious covering. Smell is musty with a deep fruitiness that has an apple and pear signature and Bret based barnyard funk. Taste has a sharpness like good cheddar that borders on lactic. Apples, pears and white raisins flow into a light tartness. Hops in the finish has a horse blanket carriage. Feel is creamy and lightly carbonated. Drinkability is starts out good and gets better as you go. (506 characters)

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.97/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received this in trade a long time ago from Stopbarking.. Barks is a truly great trader.... Thanks Daniel.. Our's was epic!!

lightly hazed orange brew.. good head and lacing....

nose shows a bunch of brett with fruity esters.... pretty dusty and a fair amount of apricot..

even after all this time.. it is quite a bit sweeter than expected. sweet red apple... and shades of deep funk.. certainly more Brett than sour.. but everything that I hope for is there..

I've been sitting on this for a long time.. and I hoped for more .. but the brett really only showed well on the palate with warmth.. I am pretty damn sure this is the 1st bottling... I need to pick up a couple at Brewforia while the getting is good. Huge thanks again Daniel... We should do it again some time.

3.5/4/4/4/4 (789 characters)

Photo of dciBA
4.33/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured from the 750 into my Allagash chalice. Pours a cloudy deep orange. About one finger of white head kicks it off and stays around for a long time. i smell a little belgian yeast under sour fruit, mostly apple. Quite a bit of funk in there as well. Taste is mostly apple, some fresh cut, with some sour apple in there too. A nice little taste of hops as it goes down. The funkiness in the smell isn't as overpowering in the taste as you would expect. Drinkability is very good, with a nice dry mouthfeel and finish. My only gripe would be the staying power on the palate. You lose the taste quickly and are looking for the next sip right away. (647 characters)

Photo of pmoore311
3.09/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2008 Poured from a cork and caged bottle into a snifter on New Years Eve 2009 as a toast to ring in 2010.

Appearance - pour a beautiful hazy orangish color with a nice white head.

Smell - very funky, I now know what others mean by the term "funk" as this is one of my first experiences with Brettanomyces yeast being this dominant. Other notes of fruits appear behind the overpowering funk. I particularly noticed peach and pear to be the most dominant.

Taste - very funky barnyard, outdoor, hay and leather followed by sour, sour fruits (peach and pear are what I noticed to be most forward), I would say sour grapes too. Very acidic and sour, had a nice pucker factor. Slight hop profile to finish.

Mouthfeel - medium bodied and chewy, seemed to sit on my palette and continue to deliver sourness between sips.

Drinkability - due to the sour nature of this beer I rated average drinkability.


For those that are a fan of Belgian sours and enjoy the flavor the Brett adds I would say this is a very well crafted beer. I for one do not seem to be a fan of the Belgian sour styles as it just does not sit well on my palette. Perhaps I will acquire more of a taste over time, but for now, I will not be seeking out beers within this style.

My marks reflect my impression of the beer and do not reflect the quality in which this beer was crafted. (1,353 characters)

Photo of darklordlager
4.12/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a light pear cider colour, with a light coating of grey-white head. Little odd shaped bubbles.

S: Barrage of funky fruits--peach, apple, pear. Light acidic sourness, barnyard funk and grapes. Pineapple. A BA who doesn't enjoy the funky Belgian genre suggested "applesauce which sat in the fridge for a year, blended with moldy pears." From what I remember, this reminds me a little of Orval.

T: The brett funk dominates the initial flavours, and are hard to distinguish with the first sip. With a few more, the fruits described in the smell really come to life--pear, apple, pineapple. Slight sourness, and barnyard funk. As it warms, the hop character really starts to emerge with the barnyard funk. Chewing aged pellet hops is the best comparison I can draw. As it warms a cider/hop pellet character becomes the most prevalent.

M: Medium mouthfeel, but the sourness mellows it out quite a bit.

D: Very interesting beer--much more funky than I was expecting. I will probably be picking up another one of these. (1,025 characters)

Photo of gford217
4.42/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky golden orange with a small bubbly white head that recedes to a soapy collar and leaves very little lacing.

Aroma is big with lots of sweet and tart light fruits, green apples and pears especially. There is also some lemony sourness and, needless to say, quite a bit of barnyard funk with some earthy, almost leathery character.

The taste is very, very funky up front with the brett really dominating initially. There is some underlying doughy malt and lemon zest with lots of sour apple sweetness. Plenty of fruity esters and even a bit of Belgian yeast spiciness before the big dry funky finish.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with strong carbonation and dry and wine-like in the finish.

This is an excellent beer with a ton of complexity and really shows what brett can do in the hands of master brewers. Well done all the way around. (854 characters)

Photo of ritzkiss
4.69/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

750ml corked and caged had at Cole's in Buffalo with Bobsy (re-reviewing due to site crash).

Pours a very hazy apple strawberry juice color, no seeing through this one and the murk gives the impression that it's thicker than I'm thinking it will be. A finger of head rises up and falls, leaving some light lacing down the glass.

Nose is delicious! Pear and apples juice mingles with a leathery, barnyard funk, hints of graininess - clean and inviting.

This is a delectable nectar indeed. Pear juice, triple-ish like esters, graininess, apples, light citric sourness - all there with a complex bundle of brett that gives off musty, grassy, leather and barnyard. Hints of Saaz and Hallertau in the finish, adds another layer Manages to be both juicy and drying, very drinkable.

This is one awesome beer! Very balanced and drinkable, complex melding of brett into a terrific beer. Would gladly have again! (908 characters)

Photo of bobsy
4.74/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Drank a bottle at Cole's with ritzkiss to celebrate getting a bonus and being on Christmas vacation.

Pours a lovely deep gold with a finger of white head that drops to a thin cap and leaves some nice spots of lace. The funky aroma certainly has the brett first and foremost, but with notes of straw, lemon, apple and tropical fruit. Definitely the sort of beer I could sniff for an age!

Brett, brett, brett in the flavour. Lots of funk... leather, horseblanket, barnyard, straw, cider - its all there. Some tropical fruit, light grain and a subtle sourness underneath. Truly a delightful experience, and on of the better beers I've tasted this year. Medium body with a smooth carbonation.

The price on this bottle was steep, but I'm glad to say it was worth it. A great day south of the border! (797 characters)

Photo of brystmar
3.49/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle --> Maredsous chalice.

Pours a gorgeous gold/coppery color with just under a finger of white head. This is a gorgeous beer, top marks!

Smells bretty with hints of sour fruits and other fruity notes, a touch of malt too. These scents aren't particularly strong either; all in all, pretty average here.

Taste is an improvement over the smell, starting off sour & bretty with strong Granny Smith apple flavors. Lots of sweetness in the aftertaste to contrast the bright sourness up front.

I love the way this beer feels in the mouth -- on the low to medium side for carbonation with a medium-bodied consistency overall. Low on the scale of alcoholic warmth.

This brew is pretty drinkable in a vacuum, but the sourness this beer exhibits limited me to this single bottle. A solid beer overall. (810 characters)

Photo of twiggamortis420
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a slightly hazy, deep gold color with a large-bubbled white head that fades rapidly but leaves some nice lacing on the glass.

Smells sweetly malty (caramel) with that typical brett and bacterial sour nose. Plenty of fruitiness in there - strawberries and cherries. Theres some hints of bubblegum and rubberbands as well, good smelling wild ale.

The brett is already kicking it into full gear even though this bottle is less than a year old. Lots of rubber and rotting wood flavors are complimented by a heavy malty sweetness that reminds me of honey. There is plenty of fruitiness to go around with the raspberry-esque sour and tart notes. Drinkability is pretty high for such a complex beer. It's got a little bit of everything; brett funk, a bit of sourness, fruity yeast esters and a little bit of spicy saaz hops. Well balanced. A really good beer that I think will improve with a couple years in the cellar. (920 characters)

Photo of brownbeer
4.14/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bretty funk on the nose; sweet pineapple, orange skins, a touch of leather.

The band-aid character mingles nicely with sweet, rich malts on the palate. Earthy hops and bright fruit, turns bready toward the finish.

Overall, this is a solid wild ale. Though, it does lack a little of the "wow factor" and could be a bit dryer for me. (333 characters)

Photo of alexgash
4.33/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle, corked and caged.

Hazy, tawny apricot body with a sticky, rocky, dense, eggshell white head. Great lacing too. Funky nose of mandarin oranges, fruit cocktail, pineapple, shortbread cookies, lemon peel, and a heady, earthy brett funk. Nice.

Mild lemony tartness up front. The funky, earthy, peppery, metallic brett notes follow before sugary fruit and cookie malt fill in underneath. Juicy citrus and woody hop bitterness into the finish. Lingering powdered sugar malts and peppery, cheesy brett. Medium-full body with a lively feel that settles into a creamy finish. Keep up the collaboration guys--this is a very nice beer! (642 characters)

Photo of jwinship83
3.72/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml corked and caged bottle poured into my duvel tulip.

A- this one comes out of the bottle a darkish golden yellow colored body with a massive three finger bright white head. a nice wall of lacing left behind as the head slowly fades.

S- belgian yeast, some earthy funkiness, a variety of fruits. green apple, lemon, pear, etc. grainy malts. slightly acidic.

T- the taste follows the smell. funkier than i was expecting adn it comes with a mild green apple like tartness. pretty fruity. lots of pear and lemon.

M- medium bodied with a whole lot of carbonation. fizzy on my tongue.

D- easy to finish and different than i was expecting. id like to get another one to lay down for a while. ill revisit this one eventually. (730 characters)

Photo of coldmeat23
4.35/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

GLASS: Snifter
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 50 degrees
CORK HAS 24/04/12 on it (Best by?)

This looks like apricot nectar in the glass. It's a dark golden color with burnt-orange tints, and a good amount of haziness. The head of eggshell-colored foam is just over two-fingers thick, from an easy to medium pour. It looks dense and creamy. The retention is very good, eventually leaving a thin surface covering with an island of thick foam in the center of the surface. Lacing is just shy of curtain-like and very sticky.

When I popped the cork, I was immediately hit with notes of fresh, golden pineapple. It has now had a few minutes to 'breathe'. Loads of orchard fruits are here now and the pineapple, while still here, has taken a spot in the background. Good notes of apples, pears, peaches and nectarines, among others. The brettanomyces is present, though not dominant. A very nice barnyard funk is here. There is a touch of tanginess to the nose. Mild presence of bananas.

The taste follows the nose, somewhat, with mostly the same fruit notes. These are confined to the interior of the tongue, though. The edges of the tongue get a sharp tanginess, which is really quite nice, and brings balance to the fruitiness of it all. There is a touch of caramel sweetness, down below the surface and the whole thing is covered with mild notes of that funky barnyard.

This has a medium-to-full body, with a nice, medium, almost heavy, level of carbonation. Very smooth, with a medium level of creaminess, which makes this feel very nice, indeed.

While I have no problem drinking this bottle, it's not one that I'd want to drink everyday. for an 'occasion' beer though, this is really good. (1,687 characters)

Photo of Travlr
4.2/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle at Churchkey. Pale cloudy orange with a gigantic head, settles quickly to great lacing. Aroma of orange peel. Taste begins with malt and freshly rising bread then progresses to a bit of sourness and a background fo light spice. Very nice. (252 characters)

Photo of scruffwhor
4.17/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pour reveals a clear golden copper color with very light bubbling. Alas, the head is almost one finger thick, but a lovely bright white. But this smallish head recedes very quickly to nothing . The aroma has exotic fruits with plenty of green apples thanks to our friend Mr. Brett. Tart aroma and equally tart flavor. The taste has some overt dry, white wine notes. Green garpes, unripened GRanny Smith apples, and lots of pilsner malt. The dry hopping gives off a bitter lavender note in the finish. The palate is tart and chalky with lots of fruits and herbs. Great sipping beer and conversation starter at any b eer dinner party. (632 characters)

Photo of IBUnit63
3.95/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This has a little age on it - BBD running around 4/24/2010. Or 2011? Either way...Nice pop of the cork from the C&C 750. Into a Duvel tulip.

Pours a murky honey; slightly treatment plant brown color. Very nice sourdough rye-colored head - at least a full finger of gelatinous, bready goodness. And it sticks around and leaves very good lacing. There's a fair amount of carbonation emerging from the bottom as well.

The Brett is definitely there, as is some deep, dark bourbon funkiness. Pineapple, the label says? Sure, I'll buy it...especially if the pineapple was soaked in a tincture of Maker's and Bacardi. The aging quotient yields ore creamy fruits (apple makes sense). I get a little bit of biscuit and some cherry character too, with a smidge of wheat electricity.

Well, that is comforting as hell. Oily Brett with a little austere funk and almost a Pilsener-ish Saaz hoppiness. Definitely an apple juice feel. Gets tighter and more like balsa wood from an intial creaminess, but not a huge pucker.

This is an enjoyable palate feel but perhaps it's a little all over the place. Some additional Beautiful Chemistry is in order, regardless of how enjoyable this is. The apples get a little heavy after a while and separate the Brett from the body of the beer and the wheat electricity and other flavors.

Goes down smoothly, quickly and leaves a nice funk and alcohol burn with a citric twinge backed by hearty aging and a huge helping of wheat and Pilsener. Heavy straw feel. I enjoyed this. (1,502 characters)

De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
93 out of 100 based on 140 ratings.