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Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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88
very good

161 Ratings
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Ratings: 161
Reviews: 132
rAvg: 3.96
pDev: 8.08%
Wants: 8
Gots: 20 | FT: 1
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Dark Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: memyselfandi on 08-01-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.68/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed on 11/21/2009. Bottle. Pours a deep brown with a small tan head. Aroma of sweet cherry, roasted malt, prunes, chocolate. Flavor of prunes with a sweet cherry finish. No chocolatey or roasty notes (as the description suggests) but still pretty tasty. Sort of similar to Three Philosophers but more cherry and more prunes. Overall, interesting beer.

Photo of John_M
4.03/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Max's today.

The beer pours a fairly dark brown color with very good head retention and lots of sticky lacing all around. Don't get a whole lot on the nose, but there's some noticeable chocolate, cherries and funk (horse sweat and the like). Flavors replicate the nose pretty closely, with a nice interplay of sour and moderate sweetness. The funk comes through on the palate as well. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and fairly soft, with the carbonation dialed down nicely in this this beer. Drinkability is good, with the alcohol and sour well integrated into the beer.

Very nice. Not entirely my cup of tea, but this was pretty tasty, nonetheless.

Photo of snaotheus
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle poured into belgian style glass (whatever the St. Bernardus glass is called)

Pours dark brown with strong steady carbonation, a fairly tall ring of head and an interesting web-like layer of head over the top. Looks almost filmy. Smells raisin-y and plummy, lots of dark fruit and sweetness.

Taste is slightly thin, surprisingly tart, seems like some brett, noticeable fruitiness. Cherry definitely comes out in the flavor.

Mouthfeel is thin but very effervescent.

Photo of ibbjamin
3.77/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

De Proef (Belgium) collaboration with Bell's Brewery (Michigan). Paid $17.99 for a 750ml bottle from Perry's Liquor in Livermore, CA. Bottle is corked (plastic) and caged. I pour into a large snifter to review.

A very dense, large and light beige head appears, even after a gentle pour. Black in color and seemingly well carbonated. Thick lacing is left as the large head dissipates very slowly. A nice, frothy layer of retention is left behind.

Complex and refreshing Belgian styled nose. Sour cherries, oak, mild Belgian yeast, plum, white grape, brett funk and pear are all recognized. Aroma is quite pleasant and actually rather subtle. Some vinous qualities, I'm guessing from the nose this will be dry and mildly astringent.

It has porter qualities to it a la roasted malts and coffee. These interplay with the funky brett and sour cherry tones and leave me wondering what they were going for here. A confused American Porter and Belgian Wild/Sour blend. Tastes as if two different beers were poured together more than brewed together. The taste is bigger than then the nose suggested and much different. The alcohol is very well contained. As it warms, the porter qualities fade and it becomes a drinkable, B level, creamy Belgian Dark Ale.

Full bodied and creamy, it did take on a velvety smooth mouthfeel that the Belgian brewers have perfected over the years. Slightly dry with a medium crisp, medium length finish.

A unique effort that I am glad I tried, but I don't forsee me forking out the cash to buy another bottle anytime soon.

Photo of jjanega08
3.93/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

A= pours a dark brown color. Could be perceived as black but it's just a dark brown. When held to the light you notice a lot of really really deep amber highlights in it. The head is just like a coca cola head same color and texture. The retention is a little better though. The head rises to just one and a half fingers and falls to a half finger which lasts throughout the drink. Some pretty decent lacing on it as well.

S= Quite spicy. The first thing I notice is some sort of cinnamon like spice. There is some cherry odor coming from it a little deeper. Maybe a little bit of a tartness coming from the cherries. I also notice a small amount of darker sweeter malts. Not really roasty just sweet smelling malts.

T= The taste is very unique. It hit you with some cherry flavor that comes in just slightly tart on the tip of your tongue. Interesting because usually you taste the tartness all over your mouth but this is literally just the tip like you lick a 9 volt battery only not nearly as powerful. The carbonation is so high that he flavors I pick up in the middle of the tongue are quickly lifted and not easily detectable. What I am able to detect is some dark fruits typical of belgian abbey ales. The finish is cherry again only this time much more of a candy cherry flavor and not tart at all.

M= As i mentioned the bubbles are too much. As I let it sit is mellows out a little. The finish is super duper dry.

D= Pretty good beer. I enjoyed this quite a bit. THe bubbles were too much at first but mellowed out enough to make it more enjoyable after time. Great mix of fruit and tart.

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.5/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, corked & caged, $14.99 from the Andersons store in NW Columbus. I bought it the day it went on the shelves, and haven't seen any more since (I think it sold out that day).

The label lists some good info about the collaboration and the ingredients: Sour dark cherries from Michigan, Belgian candi sugar, New Zealand Nelson Sauvin hops, bottling sugar from MI sugar beets. More: "Broadly a cherry-infused mash-up of the porter and dubbel styles, brewed to an original gravity of 1.072 and fermented with several strains of yeast".

The beer is dark brown and opaque, big poofy tan foam, almost a solid layer of froth. The first whiff brings to mind a Flanders Bruin style of beer, sour and tart with some light funk. The taste is spectacular, so much more than any old Belgian dark ale. Mouth puckering cherries and brett, chocolate malts, so delicious, just damn. Exceptionally drinkable sour style beer, the flavor keeps drawing me to the glass.

This is addictive, I wish I'd bought a few bottles. The price tag held me back, but if I'd known how good it would be...

Photo of Beerenauslese
4.5/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark blackish brown with a nice ample tan head that stays awhile, with lots of lacing.

Smells of sweet chocolate and sour cherries. I am thinking of a chocolate cherry torte. Or as the label says, envision a cherry filled Belgian chocolate.

Tastes of sour cherries, roasted malt, milk chocolate, and light coffee. A bit of ginger. Not sweet, just a little sour, very nicely balanced. A little hops on the finish.

Mouthfeel is full and light. Highly carbonated, it bursts in the mouth. Very palate cleansing, and finishes a little dry, like a good champagne.

This is a very drinkable brew, especially if you like a direct taste sensation of chocolate and cherries in a beer. With the strong carbonation, it is light and very refreshing. It strikes me as a dark lambic and I am liking that a lot.

Photo of gford217
4.01/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle.

Pours a dark, murky brown with a thick, creamy tan head that shows excellent retention and lacing.

Lots of sweetness in the aroma with sweet cherries, chocolate and candi sugar. There is a hint of funk and tartness as well but it's not the first thing I get in the aroma.

The taste is more of the same though the cherries are more on the tart side but still with the chocolate-dipped character and an underlying sugary malt backbone. The finish is slightly dry and lightly funky though it's still sweeter than I was expecting.

The mouthfeel is very lively with lots of carbonation and light to medium bodied overall. Maybe it's the carbonation that makes it seem lighter. The brett is very subtle overall and it's not that funky.

This is a very solid Belgian dark that is more chocolate-covered cherries than it is bretty funk. I personally think that's a plus, but I bet the brett will make this more interesting over time. Not sure if it will be better, but I'll cellar a couple to find out.

Photo of rtepiak
4.47/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

quite a unique culmination of flavors. pour is quite a murky near opaque brown. a nose of some really musky yeast... like a pair of new leather shoes. buckwheat, chocolate, smokey wood and dark fruit... cherry and fig mostly. palate is cocoa bean, buckwheat, mild sour... that or smokiness and cherry tart. chocolate malt also. chrysanthemum and something of a bitterness of a bark in a yin tonic. really a fantastic opportunity to drink. very special beer. game meat beer. with warmth comes a lot of chocolate malt and lots of blackberry.

Photo of sinstaineddemon
4.02/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - has the typical porter look, dark mahogany brown with a couple of fingers of dark tan head

S - dark cherries and chocolate aromas are prevalent, the aroma isnt terribly complex, but does seem rather inviting

T - that taste is rather unique, it really tastes like a Flanders Red/Porter combo, that coffee/chocolate flavor profile form the porter, and the cherry juice adds some great candied cherry flavors

M&D - medium bodied, with some candy like sweetness, that can be a bit sickly sweet at times, though to me was easy to drink, a nice brewery collab

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.81/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a tulip)
A- A jet black body supports a thick tan head that has a nice sticky lace that remains on the glass. The head last and last turning into a billow cloud in the middle of the glass.
S- The smell is a fragrant pig farm with some earthy hints in the background.
T- The barnyard flavor blends with some dark roasted malt and a chocolate flavor in the background. There is a slight tartness in the finish with a cherry note and a very faint lemon tartness. As the beer warms the tartness grows along with the roasted flavor.
M- This beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with a tight fizz when warms but no alcohol heat.
D- The tartness and mellow roasted malts have a hint of fruit but everything is a bit odd all mixed together. I love De Prof and this series but I was a bit underwhelmed by this beer.

Photo of MrHungryMonkey
4.1/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Nose is slightly chocolaty, oddly funky, softly sour, with solid earthy base. Some spicy phenolic aromas. Some fresh bread. At it warms the cherry comes out stronger. Smells good.

Pours very dark brown, clear best I can tell, with a massive head. Looks good.

Nicely tart with good bit of cherry. Soft malt backdrop is bready and chocolaty. Some odd funkiness and dry powdery yeastiness. Mild sweetness. It's wonderfully complex, yet hard to describe. Borrowing from other BA's reviews it is nicely described by musty leather, medicine, and a touch of urine. Tastes good. Feels good. Quite good drinkability.

Photo of ShadesOfGray
4.2/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Collaboration brew...pours extremely heavy and dark. Very frothy deep large tan/brown head. Very long lasting lacing. Smells very sweet of fruits, caramel, coffee. A lot of different fruits come to mind...apple, plum, banana maybe. Strong booze smell surprisingly for 7.5%.
Taste at first tastes like wine. Thick...and then a coffee/slightly bitter aftertaste. A lot of fruits and caramel going on. Very complex...and very tasty. A little slow to drink being so complex and thick, but feels and tastes great on the palate.

Photo of CrellMoset
4.03/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Van Twee, on tap at Beer Run, Charlottesville, VA. Served in a 10 oz. snifter.

Appearance: Arrives a dark but not too dark brown-bodied ale with ruby highlights around the periphery - a gorgeous color really, the appearance of which is accentuated by an obviously Brett-ified head. The half finger of dull tan mass has great retention and leaves sticky, bulky wisps and swaths of lace on the sides of the glass, mimicing the hop protein "successive sip" effect. A fine looking brew.

Aroma: Brett's pretty powerful in this one, contributing a strongly tart, bandaid-y, borderline cheesy smell. The tartness is accentuated by the cherry notes, subtle yet present. Agitation releases a lot from this one, a strongly roasted base, complete with hints of toffee, caramel, faint chocolate, and earth.

Taste: Tart cherries, earthy malts, strong phenols, and plenty of medicinal bretty notes. The malt notes are very deep - complex layers of dirt, chocolate, earthiness, toast, dark toffee, and bread crusts. A few other stray fruit notes round this one out.

Mouthfeel: Subtle, with fine, slow, soft, well-embedded carbonation in a moderately thick but slightly slick body.

Drinkability: A solid and enjoyable brew that I might not have enjoyed nearly as much a year ago. The Brett in this one is pretty strong, and I suppose I should have expected nothing less. And at 7.5% (far less than the 10% Ommegang Adoration I just had), this is one you can have more than one of. And you'll probably want to. Recommended.

Photo of dpnelson1978
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle into Duvel tulip.

$18.99 / ea.

55°F

S: Complex scent. Plum, cherry, roasted barley, coffee, and chocolate all jump out. The longer you smell, the more you detect, but there is much left to discover.

A: Big rocky tan head that leaves heavy lacing and a creamy cover over an opaque brown body.

T: First impression is stout in all its glory, punctuated with a strong dark roasted barley backbone and coffee notes. Then the Belgian takes over with its banana and ripe plum flavors, and finishing off with Michigan cherry. Can definitely pick up the brett on the inhale.

M: Medium body and light carbonation. Not quite smooth, and not quite creamy, this beer delivers something different that I can't quite put my finger on.

D: Very drinkable and amazingly versatile, this beer is sweet enough to be enjoyed as dessert, but not cloying in the least. Would go well with chocolate, cheesecake, and perhaps even a burger.

O: I'm impressed with this collaboration. I'm going to bring some of this home for the Holidays.

Photo of smcolw
3.64/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A beautiful pour of a brown colored beer. Lasting head which leaves good lace.

Barnyard aromas with a distinctly undesirable smell of urine. I found it very distracting. Two others at the bar didn't notice it.

Envision a dry Stout blended with a Framboise. While there is plenty of burnt toast and dark unmalted barley. Lots of raspberry flavor with enough sourness to make it interestingly complicated. Moderate body and carbonation.

Photo of danielharper
4.08/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Dark brown, almost black, with a one-finger brown foamy head that sticks around and leaves significant lacing. Mostly opaque due to color.

S: Very intriguing aroma, with strong notes of sour cherries up front with a Belgian malt underneath. Much tartier than expected on the nose, almost like a Flanders Red.

T: Not sour like the aroma, although a bit aggressive on the tart. Nutty malt flavor with a bit of sour tartness on the aftertaste. A nice yeastiness balances out. Very interesting, but somehow a bit lacking.

M: Thick on the mouthfeel, lots of chewy yeast sediment. Low carbonation with no significant hoppiness.

D: This is a really good beer, but is it really worth the price?

Photo of bonsreeb85
3.76/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

First of all, shot out to Bardwashrind for giving me this bottle for my birthday. Thanks André!

A - can i go higher than 5.0?? massive and dense biege rocky foam cloud that measures about 4 fingers tall and leaves incredible lacing rests on top of this deep dark dirty brown brew.

S - sour apples, balsamic vinegrette, dusty, funky brett and tart cherries.

T - insanely complex, but here it goes: roasted malt, a bit of chocolate and coffee flavors. also tart cherries and a sour and funky thing going on. the cherries and coffee-porter like flavors linger on and on. very interesting

MF - smooth and creamy with moderate size and carbonation.

D - very easy to finish 750ml, not sure I could have more than that though. definately worth a go.

Photo of organicbrewer
3.93/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

a-Dark brown with a huge, tight dark tan head. looks great

s-watermellon. Some cherry, crackers. I can't find any hops. raisin.

t- more watermellon, strange but nice. More cherry than in the aroma. Not too much though. This isn't one of those "FRUIT BEERS", this beer happens to have fruit. Maybe this is too fresh, but I can't find any brett (or at least flavors that I recognize as brett). Guess I'll have to go get another to age.

m- Fairly dry. I don't think this beer would work if it was thick. Nice prickly carbonation. really nice..

d-Great beer. Might be better with some recognizable brett (I keep saying this because the bottle says there is some brett in there).

Photo of femALEist
3.55/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Van Twee Belgian Ale, which is a dark belgian ale brewed with cherry juice and 7.5%. This beer was interesting. It did not blow me away with the first sip, as I was expecting more cherry flavor but the flavor grew bigger and bigger with every sip until I really enjoyed it. It was a bit smokey in flavor and had some notes of sour in the finish; which contrasted nicely once the cherry flavor became abundant. Overall, it was OK. It was good to try but I probably won't buy this one again. Nothing really made it a fantastic beer to buy.

Photo of Maction
3.65/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Into a Bell's tulip at Hopleaf, it's dark mahogany with a dense mocha-colored head.

S: Smells like sweet cherries, linen, mineral spray

T: I first get bitter chocolate, then sour cherries both in the middle and on the finish, yeasty bread, and finally a fairly dry and tart finish. Intriguing characteristics that make we want to take another sip to figure it out.

M: A dry and light mouthfeel.

D: This is a crazy sweet/dry, fruit/bitter, complex brew. I can't tell if it's too complex for me or just a hot mess.

Photo of rye726
4.13/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours dark brown with a raspberry tint and some lace.

Nose has bready malts, ripe pitted fruits, tart cherries, chocolate and a subtle funk.

Taste has wild cherries, sweet malts, cocoa and a hint of funky yeast.

Medium body is nicely carbonated, a bit thin in the finish. Not the same quality as the Allagash or Lost Abbey collaborations. Should develop nicely with age.

Photo of oldhippie247
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark brown with great tan head.

Initial aromas are a nice balance of Brett, sour fruit, and roasted malt.

Aromas follow through on the palate, but perhaps a bit heavy on the Brett. Taste is very similar to the first two De Proef collaborations, with the addition of some darker malt nuances.

Though not blown away, I definitely reccommend this beer. Very rare, so pick it up if you can find it.

Photo of champ103
4.28/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark brown, nearly black. A large beige head rises to over two fingers, and gently recedes to a ring. Rings of sticky spiderweb lace is left behind.
S: Funky barnyard aromas and yeast. Slightly sour and tart fruits. A light sweet cherry aroma with some other dark fruits. I thought there would be a bigger cherry aroma. Still, really good.
T: Funky barnyard flavors and yeast that follow the nose. Lightly tart and sour. Lots of sweet chocolate covered cherries though.
M/D: A full body that is low on the carbonation. Creamy and smooth. Easy to drink. A am not having any problems finishing the bottle.

This is a really good Belgian fruit beer. This is a good desert beer. It tastes like real cherries were used, and not artificial syrup that I loath so much in other beers of the style (I am looking at you Kasteel Rouge). Something I would highly recommend.

Photo of emerge077
3.93/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sustained pop, tried to get the cork to fly, nothing more than a couple feet though. Open bottle had a musty leather aroma with a distinct cherry note.

Amazingly dense ruffled tan foam. Hangs around, leaving globs all around the edges. Body is black with a mahoghany glint.

Faint roast and coffee notes linger in the aftertaste. Cherry tartness in the beginning, all natural from the fruit. Well integrated, supple and mellow. Tasty with a nice lingering black cherry porter impression. Recommend splitting a bottle, but it could be finished solo.

Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 161 ratings.