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Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)

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very good

162 Ratings

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Ratings: 162
Reviews: 133
rAvg: 3.96
pDev: 8.08%
Wants: 8
Gots: 20 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website

Style | ABV
Belgian Dark Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: memyselfandi on 08-01-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.
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Ratings: 162 | Reviews: 133
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4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

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3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

Photo of PeterIngemi
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750 ml into a duvel glass

A: pours a deep dark murky brown with two and a half fingers of browned head that sticks around for a bit.... Leavs tons of sticky lacing as it recedes, wouldve given the appearance a 4.5 but the head was pushing obnoxious.

S: sour cherry juice and earthy tart Brett funk right up
Front, this brew smells a lot more sour then I expected, which is not a bad thing. I also get a lift roasted note along with coffe
And chocolate from the Malts, smells interestingly delicious.

T: this has an interesting flavor profile, I deffinatly get the sour cheery and earthly brett up front but then in the backbone I get an interesting smoke note that blends into dark fruit, plums, slight prune, along with notes of chocaye and coffee, it makes sense that this is a mash up of a porter and a Dubbel... I also get notes of banna and apple mixed in there as well, and there is deffinatly a vinous character from the Brett, this is a very complex brew.

M: medium bodied with medium carbonation and a creamy porter like mouthfeel.

O: this is a very complex beer, it is a slightly sour cherry chocolate porter with dubbel like quad and Belgian sugar and yeast notes. Very complex, deffinatly an interesting
And different brew.

Photo of ummswimmin
3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes (late-June tasting), just too busy to get in until today.

On the pour, this beer had tons of head that stuck around for a while. The foam led to somre really lumpy lacing. This beer is super dark. It was technically brown, which you only get while holding it up to the light or get down to the bottom of the glass.

It has a very sour nose. You pick up a ton of cherry. The flavor is very over-whelming.

The beer feels like a porter.

This was a very complicated beer. A little pricey, but well worth it if you can afford it.

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.62/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Review from 9/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a dark, dark red amber with a slight tan head and lacing. Aroma of cherries and spice with a bit of sour. Starts with light cherry sour, light malt, a moderate vinous flavor that carries through to a somewhat cherry sour, smooth finish. A somewhat astringent bitterness at the finish. Complex and well integrated, with a distinct wine-like component. Faint brett flavor that is satisfactory, but reasserts itself on warming. Moderate body. Nicely made, but finish isn't all that attractive to me. Pricey too.

Photo of womencantsail
2.98/5  rDev -24.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A dark amber color with a little extra dose of brown. Sort of oxidized at this point, but nice cherry and caramel aromas. A bit of brown sugar and toffee, maybe a slight roast. Too much cardboard for my tastes, though. The flavor is similarly old and oxidized. Prunes, plums, and cherries give a decent fruit character and there is a lot of sugary sweetness to it as well. Still can’t quite escape the cardboard.

Photo of Gushue3
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

Photo of beermanbrian
3.75/5  rDev -5.3%

Photo of MatthewWilde
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sample: 1 bottle 2009 (aged 3 years)

A: Almost completely dark with a deep ruby edge halo, pours a sturdy light brown head that is quite intrepid, moderate internal carbonation, unknown translucency

S: A very complex nose, heavy cherries and dried fruits, some vanilla and sugar cane, even some espresso elements rounded off with a touch of alcohol, quite fragrant

T: A flavor as complex and delicious as the nose, dried fruits, cherries, espresso, malt, chocolate, a bit of funk, almost tastes exactly like a chocolate covered cherry, no alcohol, very flavorful

M: Incredibly smooth, melts in the mouth, perfectly balanced, drinkable, easy on the palate, light fruity aftertaste, not drying in the slightest

O: Nice to look at, fragrant, flavorful, smooth, and complex, one of the better beers I've experienced, definitely worth a try (may have already peaked but still pretty amazing)

Photo of kojevergas
3.1/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 9.4 fl oz brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap over a cork served into a Guinness goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are very high; I think this is my first beer from Bell's Brewery. Cork is labelled "Bell 01". No best before date is visible. A so called "mash-up" of a porter and dubbel according to the label.

Served refrigerator cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a half finger head of nice cream, decent thickness, and average retention considering the ABV. Colour is a weak light solid black. No yeast particles are visible due to its opaque nontransparency.

Sm: Very yeasty, with sour cherry, bacteria, cream, hints of porter-esque chocolate, and subtle fruit esters: grapefruit and apple (of all things). A moderate strength aroma. Complex, but strange. I wouldn't call it appealing or unappealing.

T: Some sour cherry and yeast are the first things I notice. The portery notes - weak chocolate and cream - collide with the rest of the beer, unsettling the balance. I like the cherry. The hop fruit esters hardly come through at all even when I search for them. Some candied sugar. Biscuity malt. Dark malts. The cherry juice on the finish is nice. A strange taste all around. Full bodied. No alcohol comes through. It's pleasant but far from refreshing. I like it, but I'm not looking forward to downing a whole bottle of it. It isn't unique or special.

Mf: Some cream. Smooth and wet. Too thick. Adequately carbonated. Suits the flavours decently.

Dr: Drinkable to an extent - you wouldn't want a full bottle to yourself because it's neither particularly high in quality nor particularly refreshing. I like that they're experimenting, but this needs work. I wouldn't recommend this to friends, nor would I get it again. Extremely pricey for the limited quality. Hides it ABV well. A disappointment coming from brewers that are so respected. I hope Bell's other offerings are better.

Gets a bit better as it warms.

Drank fine out of me goblet. Perhaps a tulip or snifter is best.

I guess it'd age okay. It's not at a good starting point as is.


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4/5  rDev +1%

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4.5/5  rDev +13.6%

Photo of jsanford
3.53/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle pouted into a Tulip Glass.

A - Pours darkest brown with slightly crimson edges and a creamy, khaki-colored head that settles to a slight haze, leaving behind sheets of sticky lacing.
S - Sweet malt, dark chocolate, and tart cherries. Pretty nice, reminds me of a cherry cordial.
T - Taste is pretty close to the nose, lots of dark malt, coffee, chocolate, and more tart cherries. Very similar to Bells Cherry Stout, which makes sense given the collaboration.
M - Smooth and a touch creamy, with a medium mouthfeel and fairly crisp carbonation.
O - A solid beer, and a nice take on the usual Bells Cherry Stout. I had this on-tap a couple of years ago, and this bottle didn't seem quite as good as it was then. Maybe my taste has just changed a bit.

Photo of Faina
3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

Photo of jophish17
3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

Photo of maximum12
3.4/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to malty for dropping this into our annual in-person exchange of good beer at the Great Taste of the Midwest. Always a good five minutes. 750 ML bottle split into two tulips.

Pours dark brown. Interesting nose. Nice tart cherries welded to sweet fruitness. Belgian yeast, too.

Van Twee brings sour to the table that isn't so evident from the nose. Sweet, sugary, spicy yeast play footsy with cherries that are tart tart tart. The roast tilts are the cherry windmill...o-d-d-l-y. Clashing forcefully. Half a big bomber of this is more than enough.

Weird beer. I'm a huge fan of roast, & love a good fruit beer, but the combination here, with the Belgian characteristics, well, I applaud the unique effort, but just doesn't quite work for me. Pretty good brew.

Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +1%

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4/5  rDev +1%

Photo of drpimento
3.83/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this fresh out of the fridge and a little cold. Got a huge, foamy, very frothy, textured light tan head that slowly settled and an amazing amount of very fine lace that totally enclosed the glass. Color is an almost opaque black brown except in the very thinnest part of the glass it seems to be a clear mahoganey. Flavor's similar in many ways to nose, but not nearly as good. At first it starts out wonderful with tart cherry flavored dark malt, but then there's a metallic flavor and some other off tastes. Body is good and carbonation started out good but then quickly goes kind of flat. Finish is like flavor ( and, I walked away from the beer for a while, which rounded & smoothed it out, plus seems to have eliminated the metallic part), understated, although heavier in bitterness than anything else. Not bad, not a hug fan. Proly good to cook with.

Photo of barleywinefiend
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured a dark brown color with good carbonation and a tannish cap

S: Nice nose of chocolate, cherries and a little spice

T: Dominant chocolate covered cherries, dark fruits, with some light funk, toasted malt, burnt sugar, toffee. Sour cherries and spice with a hint at caramel

M: Big body, creamy mouthfeel with good carbonation.

O: A tasty beer

Photo of Knapp85
3.8/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer poured as a nice reddish brown color with a light tan colored head that fades pretty quickly. The smell of this beer is a little sour on the nose but has other sweet malt aromas in there to kind of balance it out. It definitely smells like a sour brown ale though. The taste of the beer has a nice minimal tart cherry flavor upfront that softens out into a sweet nutty brown ale flavor in the aftertaste. It's got some nice transition to it for sure. The mouthfeel is slick, bubbly and dry. Overall it's a pretty good brew I think and worth trying.

Photo of donkeyrunner
4.3/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A birthday gift from my ladyfriend.

Dark brown with a rocky, clay colored head. Some lacey stragglers left by a swirled, small bubble retention.

Aroma is sweet, tart cherry, brown sugar and tree bark.

Slightly tart cherry slides into dark fruit - (plum? currant? something like that). Brown sugar sweetness complements the tart cherry. Hints of cinnamon.

Earthy and beautifully balanced. A perfect desert beer and a perfect birthday present.

Photo of beerandcycling88
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Review number 100
Poured from a 750 ml bottle into a snifter.

A Pours a dark brown color with a tan head that has excellent retention. This is a nice looking one.

S Complex nose, there is a strong sour cherry note upfront with a funky barnyard brett undertone. Also a hint of malty chocolate. Pretty good nose.

T There is a lot going on here with some sour cherry, followed by funky brett, then chocolate followed by a lingering sourness. Very interesting and quite tasty. A little surprised that the brett is so mild.

M Creamy mouthfeel with good carbonation.

Overall this is a weird but very good beer that dispite all the extreme elements in it is quite mild and a pleasure to spend an evening sipping on. if it wasn't so much I would drink this again in a heartbeat.

Photo of illidurit
3.5/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle shared at the July Santa Cruz tasting. Pours a medium brown color with an ecru head. Aroma of soy, molasses, chalky chocolate, dark fruits. Flavor is cheap chocolate and sweet cherries, light coffee roastiness, low on brett influence, some assorted dark fruit accents, soy sauce. Kind of muddled and sweet. I'd like to revisit this after the brett gets settled in and maybe cleans it up a bit.

Photo of brentk56
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: The coffee colored liquid is topped by a massive beige head that leaves sheets of lacing behind

Smell: Chocolate-covered tart cherries, with a woody, musty character

Taste: Chocolate and brown bread, up front, with a developing sour cherry character that arrives by mid-palate; additional vinous fruit flavors add complexity, after the swallow, providing a plummy aspect

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with low carbonation; somewhat flabby

Overall: For all of the elements that are in this beer, the Brett doesn't provide the anticipated sourness (particularly after some time spent in the cellar) nor do the Nelson Sauvin hops do much (although perhaps some of the vinous character is due to their inclusion); though I expected much more, it still is a decent and interesting brew

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Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
88 out of 100 based on 162 ratings.