Witte Noire - De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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44 Ratings
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Ratings: 44
Reviews: 25
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 8.4%
Wants: 1
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot) visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Witbier |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: WalrusJockey on 12-06-2009

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Ratings: 44 | Reviews: 25
Reviews by Spineypanda:
Photo of Spineypanda
3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nice dark amber, with a good but somewhat rocky head.
Smells of alcohol to me, just really bites the nose.
Taste is interesting, has a good amount of almost mocha and raisins. The alcohol bite is there in the taste too... not sure if maybe I got a bad bottle? Either way it tastes okay.

I probably would not buy this again, but it was enjoyable.

More User Reviews:
Photo of Mora2000
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to blutt59 for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a hazy brown-red color with a white head. The aroma is caramel and dark fruit. For the flavor I get some caramel, toffee, chocolate, dark fruit, wheat and alcohol. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Photo of Brutaltruth
4.21/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Enjoyed from the big bottle in a Delirium Tremens snifter, this one pours a thick mahogany brown with a thin tan head that quickly dissipates to a very thin layer and very light lacing. Nose of chocolate and banana, fresh bread, and some tart pie cherries. Flavors are very complex. Banana and chocolate to the back, sweet malts mingle to the sides with a fresh sweet bread like character. Some tart cherry flavors come through on the aftertaste with a light does of fig and delicious Belgian yeasty goodness with a light peppery spice. Excellent hybrid from an excellent brewer.

Photo of Bung
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml. A very dark brown pour, just a thin layer of light tan head, but it retains pretty well. There was no pop when I got this opened, so I was a little worried.

Aroma, heavy bread and fruitcake. Caramel, a little booze.

Taste, some malt and spice almost more like rye than wheat. Bannana, some molasses and cocoa. There are some other light red fruits, strawberry, cherry, very small orange/citrus as well.

Enough carbonation to keep it lively in the mouth. Solid medium body, not as warming as I expected.

A pretty interesting brew. Definetely more bock like.

Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750mL bottle to wine glass, caged synthetic cork reads 'WN0109' after uncorking. $17. Indicated on the bottle as an Amber Wheat Ale, Special Reserve from the Brewmaster's Collection.

A: Witte Noire pours with a 1 and a half finger, medium brown creamy head that is fairly fast to diminish. Lasting film. The body is a very dark shade of amber-brown with transparency only along the edges. Lightly particulate. Good lacing initially, but stickiness is lacking, resulting in a glass scantily clad with erratic strings of lace.

S: Malt head, featuring aromas of grains (wheat) plus light chocolate. Between toasted and roasted. There is a piney/woodsy scent that nearly goes by unnoticed. Pleasant yeast aromas start with leather and ease into dough. Refined nose.

T: Light dark fruit flavors of plum and cherry that are more than likely derived from yeast esters. Maybe a hint of strawberry. At just 7.5% ABV, the alcohol is perhaps a touch too noticeable, which starts at the belly and works its way up.

M: The mouthfeel extends the flavor duration. The wheat component of the grain bill has a profound impact on the mouthfeel. The body is extra full, creamy, and extremely smooth and supple. Effervesence is gentle yet ample enough not to be disappointing, even though I was looking for more crispness at the end, not the astringent finish I experienced.

D: Overall, a very quality brew. But what was intriguing to me at first, ultimately became tiresome towards the end of the bottle. Perfect to share casually among friends.

Photo of mwilbur
3.83/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from 750 mL bottle into shaker pint glass.
A: Pours a very dark brownish-red (more red with backlighting) with 1-2 inch bubbly darker tan head.
S: Carbonated caramel malt and soft wheat at the forefront.
T: Soft melon (must be the yeast The Prof uses since I find this note in several of his beers), caramel, light roast coffee, and in the background I find the wheat.
M: Light-medium body. Mild carbonated fizz with a creamy feel. Briefly lingers on the palate.
D: Certainly an interested brew and not your typical wit...pretty sure I haven't had an imperial amber wheat ale before. A solid beer with good drinkability. Not sure I'd go too far out of my way to seek it out though.

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle without a freshness date. Pours an opaque brown color with a frothy tan foam. Retention is average, but leaves sheets of lace on the glass while descending.

Nose is fruity with a zesty aspect that is reminiscent of lemon peel or maybe grains of paradise. Dark malts smell of cocoa powder and even get a little nutty. Interesting...and smells pretty good.

Light and airy on the palate with lots of roast and chocolate malts. Yeast provides plenty of fruity esters and some bread dough. Hops are plenty notable, especially for a wheat beer...adds another layer of flavor. Wheat tang softens the mouthfeel, but it comes across as a little thin. ABV is well hidden, never would have guessed 7.5%. A lighter brew than one would think, but I am ok with that in this instance. Kinda like an amped up weizenbock with plentiful spicing.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.55/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Snagged a bottle of this for 5 bucks from the House of 1,000 beers discount shelf. More than likely it's over 2 years old.

A - Ugh it's another rubber cap. This could be good or bad. I believe this is the first time I ever pulled a cork and didn't hear a pop. It just slid out like a slug. At least when I poured it I got a layer of foam that seems to stick around for a bit. Color us is a very dark ruby brown, clear but almost porter like.

S - Smells of mild cherries, some sherry, raisin/plum, and some vinegar apple kind. Not a bad smelling dopplebock.

T - Its pretty good it's a standard approach to a dark wheat beer (dopplebock). Starts of mildly sour with some cherry notes then goes for the raisin and finishes with a sour sort of wheat twang that gives it a mildly dry finish. With a wet cardboard like body it seems this beer did not get better with age.

M - Light to medium it hides the ABV well.

Overall I kind of wish this was a collaboration since the regular versions of these beers tend to be sort of average. I blame it on the rubber cork.

Photo of roblowther
4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml corked and caged, poured into a chalice. It's (no surprise here) noire with a thin tan head that quickly leaves the beer looking like a stout in the wrong glass. Smells of cocoa, raisins, and crusty bread. The taste is coffee, bread, and a hint of cinnamon and nutmeg. There is a vague wheat-ness (it's close enough to a word) about the mouthfeel, which is soft and substantial without being heavy. Drinkability is fantastic for a dark beer like this. The flavor is actually very mellow, not too challenging but not too roasted either. I have no idea what this beer is besides good.

Photo of WalrusJockey
4.05/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

According to the bottle: "Imperial Amber Wheat Ale."

Looks more like an RIS than like a Wit. Taste is the middle between the two, with the heavy, roasted malts driving the spice to the background, but the spices are still there. Unlike an RIS, this seems like it would be wonderful with a nice garlicky Caesar salad. Lots of beers, especially thicker beers, are described as "creamy," but with all the wheat, this beer has a texture very much like slightly frothed cream; going down it is much easier, though. I paid 11$ for a 750ml bottle of this, I'm not sure how soon I'll be searching for another bottle. The RIS roast flavors and the heavy body make this a fairly slow drinker, but it was actually much easier drinking than a real RIS.

It's hard to review this "to type," since this seems like it might be the only beer of its type. It was good, though. Clearly made for a goal, not for a gimmick.

Photo of magnj
3.46/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Murky amber and brown body with an off white head which is fluffy with poor retention.

S - Hugely Aromatic with dark fruits, especially grape. Rich malts, no hops.

T - Just like it smells, dark fruits like grapes and plum. Seems like a Dubbel but not as spicy but rather clean. Confusing.

M/D - Very average body, easy to drink but kind of one dimensional for me.

Photo of MrHungryMonkey
3.87/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Nose is softly zesty wheaty with a citric flair, smells powdery dry. Smells pretty good.

Pours translucent walnut brown with yellow highlights and a massive head. Looks good.

Deep rich malt, bright sour/tartness and citric fruit, spicy wheatiness and mild spicy alcohol. Soft nutty mouthcoating. Mild sweetness up front with moderate dryness in finish. Tastes good. Feels good. Pretty good drinkability.

Malty and rich, delicately wheaty, pleasantly spicy.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Witte Noire

LOOK: Pours a dark amber with an off white soapy foam and leaves behind a solid sheet of lace.

SMELL: Chocolates and raisin comes through initially with a waft of alcohol. Belgian yeast and a touch of mineral.

TASTE: Once again powdery chocolate upfront, mild tart and fruity Belgian yeast character. Nutty with big time caramelized malt and molasses flavor. Light peppery spice. A touch of fresh cherry acidity. Fig and plum are also present. Towards the end of the bottle it was like some chocolate syrup candy drink. I like this ale, it has character and ample complexity.

FEEL: Full bodied, smooth, creamy with a chocolate toffee flavor lingering in the finish. This beer is rich.

OVERALL: What do you get when you mix dark roasted malts, wheat, semi wild Belgian yeast and careful crafting? You get this gem. The best way I can describe this beer would be a cross between an authentic German Doppelbock and a rustic Belgian Saison.

Photo of froghop
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours a semi-clear dark brown with a red tint, a small tan head, and good lacing.

smell is of malt, some wheat, a touch of caramel, a little cocoa, and a little dark fruit.

taste is smooth, cocoa, some wheat, malt, and a touch of caramel, end on the dry side.

Photo of harrymel
3.6/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Looks like it was bottled 01/2011. But it's smudged.

A: pours a dark Graham brown with excellent clarity. Single finger caramel head falls over a few minutes to a sheet of the same. No lace.

S: Green apple, caramel, allspice, brown sugar. Banana yeast. Sweet smells.

T: bitter but sweet and buttery. Cool eggy tones and some alcohol punch. Nice flavors. Some wheat sweetness.

M: thin with moderate carb. Dry finish.

O: okay. Above average.

Photo of ATPete
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

corked/caged 750ml bottle

Pours a dark murky brown color, with a small head. Big nose of burnt grain, charred wheat, spice, dark fruit notes and a unique yeast character. Very roasty and lighter in body than expected, well hidden ABV and very drinkable, another unique creation from Dirk at De Proef. Definitely more like a stout than a wit or even double wit. A must try for fans of something different.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Congregation Ale House in Pasadena, CA.

Pours a murky dark brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Foamy rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, caramel, yeast, and spices. Taste is of toasted malt, slight caramel, fruits, yeast, and spices on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is drinkable but smells better than it tastes in my opinion.

Photo of ccrida
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was a generic BSDA. A simple, if pleasant flavor dominated by the grape esters. Accentuated by the caramelized sugar notes. Pretty fluffy head. Smooth. Enjoyable, but forgettable. Reminded me a lot of delirium tremens, but with less spiciness, presumably from the lower ABV.

Photo of brewcrew76
3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Brown, amber with a thin fluffy tan heads with a lot of tight little bubbles.

S - Toasted wheat bread, dark fruits, spice and yeasty notes.

T - Toasted wheat bread mixed with other roasted malts, some clove spice, belgian candy sugar and yeast.

M - On the lighter side and creamy with a good amount of carbonation.

D - Missing some of the spices of a traditional wit and I am not sure those would go very well with the roast flavors but otherwise an interesting beer.

Photo of HardTarget
2.98/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Black glass holds almost a finger of dark tan tight head that drops to a thick collar and laces a bit.

Smell: Wheat, dark malt extract, and a mild peppery note. Smells a lot like a German Weizenbock with the black bread aroma.

Taste: Roasted grain is on the edge of burnt, the black bread taste is pretty strong, alcohol comes through a bit. Something just keeps saying "German" to me, having a hard time describing it.

Mouthfeel: Prickly carbonation is almost painful to hold, soaks the chops a bit and leaves a coat.

Overall: Saw this was listed as a Witbier, and am disappointed that this has almost nothing Wit about it. Nothing seriously wrong with the beer beyond a misleading label.

Photo of seedyone
3/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

08/11/11 Company claims: Imperial Amber Wheat Ale Deep amber/chestnut color with an off-white head. Roasty & chocolaty aromas with a hint of spice. Lightly roasty notes on a soft palate. Wheat lightens the body and clove-like spice notes are present on the finish. Exellent with smoked foods.

As for me, I found it to be like a black and tan with a porter and a wheat beer.

Photo of Knapp85
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured out on the darker side. The head was fluffy and fan in color. The lacing a little light on this brew. The smell of the beer was a little roasted but had lots of soft grainy aromas in there as well. The taste of the beer was a little bit like a hefeweizen to start off and rapidly switched over to a dark roasted dryness. The mouthfeel was soft like more witte beers. Overall I liked it, it was an interesting beer in my opinion. I'd enjoy having it again one day.

Photo of SkeeterHawk
4.28/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I am a bit surprised to find that this beer only has like 18 reviews so far. I picked this beer up at the Downtown Spec's in Houston. Let's see what only 18 other people know about.

Appearance: Pours a very dark color that looks like it would probably be a dark garnet when held to the light. There was a small cap of light tan foam on top that was about 1/4" at its height, and fell to a solid layer across the top that stay there. There is some solid lacing left on the glass after drinking.

Aroma: The aroma is really nice, though it is mixed enough to make it hard to pin down. There is a mild wheat and sweetness with a subtle chocolate. I am anxious for this beer to warm up so that I can get more aroma from it.

Taste: The flavor is really balanced toward the sweet with lots of body and chocolate. This beer has a lot going on. Especially with the chocolate notes make this beer come across like some kind of exotic candy or something. The alcohol is well masked and is only come across as warming about half the bottle down. The body is medium with plenty of carbonation so that it goes down smooth and full.

Opinion: I have been really impressed with this beer. Between this one and Dogfish's new one Namaste, I have been really happy with where the witte style is going. I am not a big fan of spicy beers, and the newer versions are depending more on well blended malt and the other characteristics of the beer instead of dumping a bunch of spice and orange peels in there. This is a good beer, and I would definitely recommend it.

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.59/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

a very strange beer indeed, dubbed an imperial amber wheat, there is nothing amber about it. its a chocolate milk colored brew, with a ton of yeast in suspension and an average khaki head. its got notes of holiday spices, fresh baked breakfast rolls, chocolate cereal, and belgian fruity yeast. its complex as anything, but i never really get amber from it. its way darker and richer from the outset, and surprisingly not the least bit sweet either. a furious amount of malt in here, wheaty and thick on the palate, even with pretty good carbonation. chocolate dipped frozen banana and wit yeast come are there, but so is a much more reserved bakers flour complexion, bready and doughy and filling. its a hard beer to explain because it touches to many brewing traditions and styles. its not my favorite brew out there, but its a new interpretation for a belgian brewer, and like most stuff from these guys, is extremely unique. i appreciate the innovation, but im not sure i would choose this again. worth a try though for sure.

Photo of MDDMD
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A-dark brown hazy color with a nice light tan head and some lacing

S-malt, caramel, spices, banana

T-toasted malt, caramel, fruity, hints of spice

F-medium body with moderate carbonation, crisp mouthfeel

O-decent flavor but not all that reminiscent of a witbier

Witte Noire from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
85 out of 100 based on 44 ratings.