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Attempted RedRum - New England Brewing Co.

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Attempted RedRumAttempted RedRum

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31 Reviews
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Reviews: 31
Hads: 170
Avg: 4.03
pDev: 39.45%
Wants: 120
Gots: 43 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
New England Brewing Co. visit their website
Connecticut, United States

Style | ABV
American Barleywine |  13.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: davey101 on 03-22-2013

Premeditated Murder Barley Wine aged in rum barrels. You'll want to enjoy it forever, and ever, and ever.
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Reviews: 31 | Hads: 170
Photo of sulldaddy
4.5/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Sampling a 375 ml bottle at cellar temperature. THis is a 2013 bottle number 329 of 850 and poured into a snifter.
The beer is a bright copper to chestnut color with a creamy beige colored head of only minimal densely packed foam that rests on the edges of the glass. there is some suspended sediment in the glass and a lot of debris in the bottom of the bottle.

Aroma is rich with malt notes of toffee and some vanilla. I do get some boozy alcohol as well, which reminds me this is a 13% beer.
First sip reveals a velvety smooth texture and fine spacious carbonation. Very nice physical properties.
Flavor is similar to the nose, lots of malt, brown sugar, toffee and some vanilla. I also get a little dark fruit and the finish is a little booze flavor but surprisingly not a lot of warmth. Quite a nice beer that I enjoy and Im glad I have another bottle in the cellar.
Well done NEBCO!

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Photo of philbe311
4.19/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2014 Edition (1264/1400)... A standard pour yields a fingers worth of lush khaki colored froth that displays minimal retention... Once receded there is an uneven splotchy veil of lacing with a thin collar... A few carbonation bubbles can be seen bursting through the surface... The color is a medium to dark flat brown that allows some light to leak in around the edges... A light to moderate bit of carbonation streaks can be seen towards the top of the glass... The aroma is huge and be detected without bring one's nose anywhere near the glass... Brown sugar... Dark fruits... Warm dark breads... Toffee... Butterscotch... A touch of tobacco... A light spiced rum character adds some nice complexity... Good depth and complexity... Full bodied... Ultra sleek... Ultra smooth... Sticky... Chewy... A wee bit of carbonation... All the expected characters are present on the palate... The ebb and flow creating layer upon layer of complexity... The warmth of the rum barrels rises on the finish... Quite sophisticated... A definite sipper of a barrel aged barley wine... A bit less than the sum of its parts... Certainly worth a try if you're able to procure a bottle... Very very good, but a bit shy of world class... The rum isn't overpowering, but the barrel aging doesn't quite work in perfect tandem with the beer itself... Still a rather satisfying brew with lots of redeeming qualities... A few small tweaks or some more time in the bottle could co a long way...

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Photo of Mikefriedman90
5/5  rDev +24.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of my favorite beers to date. Strong beer but very drinkable and tasty. Dark brown pour with a nice carbonation and not too much head. Bottle #306/850. Malty rum flavor is a home run. Thanks Eric, this and the Gandhi bot are my two favorites !

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Photo of PicoPapa
4.21/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

375mL bottle. Bottle #814/1400. Pours a murky dark brownish black with very little head. Some lacing. Not much of a nose. The aroma is rum, dark fruits, and toffee. The taste is a big swig of rum upfront followed by toffee, malts, caramel, vanilla and some earth. Toffee and more rum flavor towards the finish. Very boozey, as expected. Lightly carbonated. More vanilla flavor as it warms. I missed out on this beer last year so I'm glad I got a chance to buy it this year. I really dig Premeditated Murder and this is a good twist on the beer. Overall, really good Barleywine that I look forward to trying with some age on it.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
3.88/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A : Pours a crimson color with good carbonation leaving a small tannish colored head.

S : Smells of big rum, caramel, toffee and dark fruits, very similar to rum cake or a fruit cake dipped in rum

T: An inital rum sweetness and presence , like liquid candy with dark fruits. A hint of spice and vanilla are present. The finish is sweet, a bit sticky with a nice little booze bite.

M: Creamy, sweet and decadent with loads of rum and candy sweetness, borderline to much at times. Medium/medium full body.

O: Pretty good overall. A little less time in the rum barrel but perhaps that was the saving grace for the beer since the base was not so impressive.

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Photo of MNishCT77
4.29/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

375 mL bottle acquired on trade from my CT brethren (thanks, Greg Radawich!), 2012 vintage & #, 610/850, poured into my FFF Teku glass, drank 9/28/13 over an hours (nice sipping distractor reward for transferring my English barleywine into secondary and assembling a new bed):

A: 2/3 - dark red-brown depending on the lighting, minimal clarity, pours thickly into a subtle glass lacing (to be expected for its high ABVer)

S: 10/12 - rich malt character, alcohol (rum in particular)...as outstanding as it is, I was expecting something a little more intense and in-your-face

T: 18/20 - on the anterior tongue, the rich malt and rum complexity is intense but silky smooth; in the middle of the mouth, the flavors continue to envelope with an intense malt complexity (figs and caramel especially) and alcohol notes; rum-notes continuing to linger 10-15 seconds past the swallow

M: 5/5 - high bodied but silky smooth; appropriate carbonation; booze coats the tongue like a parka

O: 9/10 - I have never tasted the base beer (Premeditated Murder) but, I'd imagine, the rum-barrel aging only improves on it; as great of a beer this is, I must admit that I was expecting something more...world-class? Maybe along the lines of FW's Parabola or (what I'd imagine) GI's King Henry, which isn't really fair to NEBCO; anyway, this is highly recommend if you can get your hands on it in CT or via trade

TOTAL = 46/50

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Photo of unclejazz
4.19/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Re-reviewed, original review within a few months of b1 release. Revisiting this 1st batch and glad to say there is no infection in this bottle! Definitely barrel notes to this one, best part is the nose. Mostly oak notes in the first few sips, hard to find the rum, but more butterscotch as it warms. Smoother that when it was fresh. Glad I held on to this one and shared it with good people.

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Photo of jaasen64
4.21/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

375ml bottle poured into Gandhi-Bot snifter. Thanks Dino for the bottle. Bottle #376 out of 850.

A- Pours a dark slightly reddish brown, not much head forms except some white bubbles that recede fairly fast leaving just a ring along the edges, nice consistent carbonation, thin layered lacing.

S- Rum, figs, a hint of butterscotch and caramel, oak, a bit of booze but very well hidden considering the abv. Fairly aromatic and very well balanced.

T- Figs, rum, butterscotch, oak, a bit of warming alcohol, finishes with butterscotch, nicely integrated rum, and a hint of rubbing alcohol (especially when you take a bigger sip). Nice integration of flavors with a balanced approach, overall very tasty and the alcohol is fairly well hidden for the abv.

M- Smooth, not a ton of carbonation but fitting for the style, alcohol burns the tongue just a little bit, finishes fairly smooth for the abv.

O- This was a very good rum barrel-aged barleywine and I'm glad I did not get one of the supposedly infected bottles. I wouldn't say it was the best barleywine I've had but it was very well done integrating the rum nicely with the base flavors while still keep it fairly smooth not too boozey for a massive 13%. I definitely recommend checking this out, but based on the other reviews you may want to use a little bit of caution and hope you don't get an infected bottle.

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Photo of thebigredone
1.83/5  rDev -54.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

Damn, of the two bottles I traded for the first was one of the bad bottles.

Tastes of metal and chemicals with a finish of what I imagine an electrical fire to taste like. Just awful.

Now I have to decide whether to drink or trade off the other bottle (fortunately they're not numbered sequentially).

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Photo of Cvescalante
4.76/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

After having Premeditated Murder, I'm so excited to try this one!

Murky reddish brown color (brownish red?) Nice lacing, very thick, head is minimal though.

So much going on in the nose that it was confusing at first! Lots of toffee, caramel, vanilla, super fruity, a little boozy heat.

Same kind of depth when tasting this one. Just so much going on! Marshmellow, vanilla, toffee, caramel, sweet, ripe, tropical fruit, fig newtons, rum.. It's quite an experience!

This beer is so full bodied, so thick, creamy and smooth as can be. Coats your mouth leaving all those great flavors lingering with you after each sip.

I can't believe I got lucky enough to try this one, and to have one of the good bottles out there! With such mixed reviews, I gotta say that I'd have a hard time believing that someone who rated this poorly had the same beer that I got to experience. This is, without a doubt, one of the most flavorful, complex beers I've yet to try, and it's made a lasting impression that sets the bar for excellence. Absolutely incredible.

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Photo of gtermi
4.74/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

A: The beer pours a dark burnt caramel red, with a thin white head that quickly fades to nothing but a ring around the glass.

S:Really sweet, with a nice amount of booze. I am getting a fruitiness to this beer too.

T: This is where the beer truly shines to me. First thing I notice is the Sailor Jerry rum flavor with a banana type flavor that lingers after it sits for a bit.

M: The mouth feel is absolutely perfect to me. There is a perfect amount of carbonation with a very slight tingle on the back of the throat. It just goes down so easy.

O: This, to me, is up there on the same level as King Henry. just every aspect of this beer shines in its own way and I can't find one thing about it that I would change. Thanks again Dave for sending me a bottle of this!

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Photo of CuriousMonk
4.36/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

#280 out of #850. Very glad to have landed this brew. Pours a murky amber reddish color with razor thin off-white lacing that barely lasts throughout. Nose of pure rum which overwhelms and side hints of grapefruit and some licorice. This only makes me wish I opened this on a cold and snowy evening but impatience trumps all. Flavors of strong rum, vanilla, coconut, and more booze! Thin mouthfeel. What an interesting and complex beer. Sure glad to have tried this one!

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Photo of yamar68
4.31/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

HUGE thanks to davey101 for this allusive motherfucker! Bottle 98 of 850:

Swampy tobacco brown with a creamy khaki cap that laces perfectly, with slow soft beading beneath.

The nose on this is surprisingly tame. Caramel and toffee with earthy oak notes... hardly any indication of rum, but it smells nice for what it is.

I was a bit hesitant to take my first sip, after reading such mixed reviews. I'm happy to report that if there are indeed bad bottles out there, this surely isn't one of them. Chewy chocolate and molasses, sweet heat from the rum contribution... loads of vanilla... red licorice... plum... leafy tobacco... wave after wave of flavors. You would never guess this is as dynamic as it is judging by the nose alone. Complex. Delicious.

Fuckin... wow. Thanks so much Dave!

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Photo of CharlieMurphy
4.84/5  rDev +20.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Before I delve into this, I just want to say that it took me about 48 hours of going back through this in my mind thinking of how to describe it. Oh yeah, and thanks Dino!

A: Rusty red tinted brown figgg jam <--- Sorry, it's thick! 375 bottle was split 2-ways. Khaki tan head 1/3" with pretty good staying presence.

S: Ho Lee Chit... The depth is endless, it's literally like a bog: Yeah it looks like a respectable, even slightly ominous puddle from a close distance, but step in close and you can sense that there's a whole abysmal world under the tip of this iceberg.... Deep warm molasses and leather, cured with fig newton sealant. I do a double take...

T: Follows the nose and reapplies more coats of fig newton sealant. Then takes that hardwood lacquered up booze-cicle and concentrates everything further as if you wrapped what I've described so far in an entire steer's worth of leather and ran it through an espresso machine. This is literally a new dimension of flavor. Liquefied leather. Candied leather. Supersedes other dimension-pushing beers like CAftW to a dimension beyond it. Alcohol presence is delivered through an arduous gauntlet of flavor obstacles and protected from even being noticed, let alone damaging like a sniper behind enemy lines. Spices from the rum integrate and turnover with the perfectly accented low carbonation on the finish. Oak and rum make up the chassis of this chariot.

M: Again, brawn is delivered with finesse in a most perfect way. No cloy, no uncompanioned bare booziness, nothing but everything you [or at least I] could ever dream of in a strong ale.

O: This was just incredibly impressive. It's a shame there's got to be some bottles that are infected. I'd love more of this and would be even be interested to see how much an infection might possibly detract my impressions of this beer.

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Photo of oregonskibum
1.77/5  rDev -56.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Tasted with premeditated murder about half way through a dinner/tasting. Notes from memory. Bottle 127. Poured into a mini-snifter.

A: murky, dirty dark amber/brown. Red hues in the light.
S: terrible. Plastic and band-aids dominate. None of the typical rum flavors are present. Just a strong chemical flavor. We couldn't agree on what it smelled like, but band-aid worked for me.
T: liquid band-aid. Almost no sign of the base beer. Sure, some caramel notes typical in a barleywine were present, but it was work to get past the strong chemical flavors.
M: nothing memorable noted.
D/O: there were six people present. Between us, we barely were able to get down half of the 375ml bottle. The rest was a drain pour. I don't know how they took premeditated murder, a decent barleywine, and created this beer. It was uniformly agreed to be the worst beer of the night.

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Photo of kscaldef
1.54/5  rDev -61.8%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.25

A terrible, undrinkable beer. As soon at it comes to your nose, you're assaulted with the sharp smell of antiseptic wipes. The flavor of the beer just brings the medicinal phenols harder. This is an unquestionable drain-pour, how anyone could drink more than a sip of this beer is unfathomable.

Clearly, something is amiss with this beer as the reviews suggest substantial bottle variation. Caveat emptor!

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Bottle 350/850. Had side-by-side with Premeditated Murder. 12oz. bottle into Torst stemware. Shared with schen9303.

Very much like the base beer but without the head. Beer is a cloudy, dark mahogany. Very very heavy. Lacing is thick and layered with good stick. The lack of head really hurts though.

Nose is completely different. Dominated by the rum barrels. Sweet candied brown sugar notes. Some woodiness. Fresh purple and green fruit sweetness. Very aromatic. Real enticing.

Opens sweet rum booziness. Fresh green raisin, pineapple, brown sugar, honey, and molasses. A slight hint of woodiness lingers in the back. Hot. End is rum and molasses sweetness. Finishes brown sugar and more molasses and syrup. Much sweeter than the base with a much bigger malt body and almost no hop presence. I love it!

Feel is almost identical to the base beer. Full bodied with low carbonation. Thick and oily in the mouth and goes down smooth and viscous. Messy finish that is even heavier on the booze with a sticky, filmy aftertaste. Big alcohol bite right at the end. Real solid for the style.

Not all beers benefit from barrel aging but this one certainly has. The rum barrels give the beer more presence and really serve to fade out the (to me) unpleasant hop presence. A very solid beer and I can only seeing this one getting even better with age as it smooths out and reveals even more complexities.

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Photo of cpetrone84
2.6/5  rDev -35.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

pour is hazy dirty dark copper with tan ring. Nose is sweet, coconut and grape, lots of sweetness. Taste has more chocolate malt, sweet grape, fair bit of booze, heat. Body is chalky and thick, under carbonated and slick. Flavors are rough, lots of booze and heat.

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Photo of CharlatanSin
4.43/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

My second bottle. I was enjoying the first one too much to review it. Bottle 186/850.

A: Pours a nice reddish brown. Murky. About a finger of off-white head that lingers and laces.

S: Rum first and foremost. Definitely a hot one. A good amount of wood and vanilla. More sweet caramel as it warms. Brown sugar.

T/M: Boozy, which I like in the style. Distinctive rum flavor. Sweet caramel, vanilla, a little hop bitterness, a little wood astringency. As it warms, more dark fruit -- rum-soaked raisins is a good comparison. Superb balance between sweetness and booziness. Mouthfeel is medium, with low carbonation. Delicious. Really hits you with distinct waves of flavor.

O: Another excellent offering from NEBCO. A small step behind Sucuba and Central Waters BBBW as my absolute favorites, but world-class for sure.

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Photo of Etan
4.2/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

375ml into a wine glass. Bottle #765/850. Thanks Krebsy!

A: Pours a murky burnt amber with a slight orange hue. Nice cap of dark khaki head on top.

S: Floral rum, brown sugar, prominent oak, a bit of spice, mild citric hop note, tannic vanilla and coconut, hot toffee. Sweet and quite smooth - smells divine.

T: Taste brings molasses, heavy rum and wood, mild hop bitterness, caramel, sharp note of alcohol, prune and raisin, dark bread, honey.

M: Thick-bodied with light carbonation.

O: This is a very good barleywine with a lot of rum barrel character. The only noticeable flaw that comes to mind is the heaviness of the booze and oak in the taste, which mellows out a bit as it warms.

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Photo of WillCarrera
2.68/5  rDev -33.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

375 ml bottle, number 637/850, red wax, poured into a snifter.

A- Pours a murky copper color, white head that recedes to a collar.

S- Christ what happened here? Aroma is all plastic, paint, harsh booze mixed with vanilla and caramel. This was highly unpleasant.

T- Similar to the smell, hot, boozy rum flavors, vanilla, caramel, a load of bitter, piney hops (which I don't understand in a barleywine but anyways), finishes with boozy heat, sugar, and more weird chemical flavors.

M- Medium-bodied, nice carbonation, a bit hot but otherwise good.

O- Along with dreadnaught33 and ahalloin, I'm just confused by this and wonder if there was something wrong with our bottle. This was a terrible beer and I can't think of many positive things to say about it. I am utterly mystified by the other (mostly from Connecticut...) reviews this has been getting.

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Photo of ahalloin
2.54/5  rDev -37%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Poured from a 375ml at a tasting. Bottle provided by dreadnaught33.

Pours a nice looking almost clear ruby highlighted fluid with tight white bubbles.

The smell is somewhat problematic with a high degree of oxidation and plywood smell. Deep caramel malts are present with touches of vanilla and char.

The taste is worse than the smell. Very solventy. I wonder if we got a bad bottle? This beer is extremely hot and full of alcohol.

Buttery and smooth but so much heat.

Overall, I really dislike this beer. Maybe it needs age or maybe we got a bad bottle.

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Photo of Dreadnaught33
3.37/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle thanks to DaveHack, thanks man!

The look is nice, it has a dark crimson like body and ring of white head, some lacing. Nice start.

The smell is very, very strange. It is very plastic-y and then some rum. Yuck. Like fresh paint, ouch. Not appetizing.

Ok, thank god the taste redeems the horrible smell. Tons of nice cedary hoppy rum influence on the base Barleywine, nice American malt base that has a table spice vibe too, almost rye to me as well. The rum works well with the beer, better than I thought it would be.

Feel is decent and thinner than expected, decent carbonation and nice sugary finish.

Overall, decent but WAY overrated. I don't think it's infected, maybe I got a bad bottle?

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Photo of woosterbill
4.92/5  rDev +22.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

375ml bottle, #31/850, poured into a Gandhi-Bot tulip.

A: The waxed cap comes off with almost no hiss, so I'm initially worried about lack of carbonation. Then I notice that it's been filled within a 1/2" or so of the top, so there just wasn't enough headspace for any pressure to build up. Let's see what happens on the pour. Ah, good. All worries are laid to rest as two fingers of rich, creamy tan head develop atop the dark chestnut body and leave tons of dense lace as they recede. Stunning in any case, but particularly so for such a beastly brew. Perfect.

S: Huge, rich rum is dominant, with elements of spice, vanilla, oak, and fruity booze. Lots of sweet toffee, molasses, and marzipan as well. Some citrus and chocolate elements, too. Amazingly complex, and simply amazing.

T: Everything from the nose comes through (which is impressive), with even more smooth integration (which is almost unbelievable). I'm getting spiced rum, sweet toffee, spiced chocolate, and candied raisins - all alternating in waves. The finish highlights the vanilla, chocolate, and lightly smoky characteristics of the oak, with just a hint of hoppy bitterness lingering on the aftertaste. The substantial ABV doesn't show up at all in the flavor, incredibly, but does provide an intense warming - almost burning - sensation in the back of my throat all the way down into my chest. I honestly can't imagine a rum barrel Barleywine tasting any better.

M: Smooth, thick and slick up front, with the substantial carbonation turning it creamy and syrupy thereafter. Wonderful.

O: This is absolutely the best rum-barrel beer I've ever had, and very close to being the best Barleywine of any type I've ever tasted - right up there with Alpine Great, King Henry, and Kuhnhenn BBBW. I'm so glad I have enough of these that a) I can drink more of it, b) I can see how it develops over time, c) I can drink a whole bottle by myself without feeling guilty, and d) I can drink more of it. NB: trading them away is not on the list. Sorry.


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Photo of zipper8650
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Good Beer Sunday #2
snifter, 474/850
A - poured down the middle, little to no head, nice lacing on the side as it drinks down. hazy amber color
S - rum and modeling glue
T - thankfully it tastes a hell of a lot better than it smells. Orange, honey, spiced rum finish. there is definitely a medicinal quality from the rum.
M - great mouthfeel, noticed and appreciated right away, heavy and smooth, really like it
O - its a really interesting nice drinking beer. I am curious what time will do to it. I would not center a trade on it after having it BUT I would definitely be interested in getting more. If this was a shelf beer I would always keep a bottle handy.

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Attempted RedRum from New England Brewing Co.
89 out of 100 based on 31 ratings.