The Moan and Dove
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United Kingdom (England)
2.46/5 rDev -46.4%
I did deliberate as to write this review (or non review as it happens) but decided to in the event that anyone else from England decided to pop by without a passport !!!
We called by on a Saturday night around 8pm and the place was deserted (hence my low atmosphere rating)
I went to the bar to order with my friend and was ID'd.
For the first time ever on a trip to the states I didnt have my passport on me (ok - my mistake I realise ... ), but did have my UK picture driving licence which clearly displays my date of birth.
Now lets put things in perspective, I'm in my mid 30's and look mid 30's!
The girl behind the bar refused to accept my UK pitcure driving licence as valid ID (It's a plastic card with hologram etc and actually looks a lot more secure and un-fakable than my friends MASS state driving licence)
I asked her straight out, do i not look 30+?
yes she replied you do, but its company policy to ask everyone for ID.
Ok - I get that 'jobsworth hat etc', however I had visited the sister pub, the Dirty Truth the previous evening and was NOT asked for ID !!!
No surprise there were only 3 or 4 other people in there !!!
Wasted 20 minutes of our time seeking this bar out and headed straight back to the people's pint!
03-20-2011 15:15:28 | More by Ruds
3.18/5 rDev -30.7%
Atmosphere was great, I thought -- lots of wood paneling, dimly lit, small, intimate place where it be great to bring a couple friends for some good conversation. Exactly the type of place I'd want to be in when it's cold and windy outside...
...Especially with the quality and selection of beers. Totally outsanding, both drafts and bottles. Good balance of local stuff and non-Mass beers, especially west coast stuff. Beer menu is well-curated with brief descriptions of styles for the uninitiated or for whoever needs a refresher. This is a serious place for beer.
All this makes for a great little tavern that would be a regular spot -- however, I had such an absolutely horrible experience with the service and that has unfortunately tainted my impression of the place and has definitely damaged my desire to go back.
Bartender, a pretty young guy, very aggressively asked me for an ID. I still haven't gotten a MA ID since moving up here, so I produced my Ohio driver's license. He then asked for anything else with my name on it, and I produced my debit card.
At this point I was thinking, fair enough, this is a college town and a small place like this can't take any chances. I'm not baby-faced by any means, but I'm 25 and I understand the need to check ID. Happens all the time.
I thought that'd be enough, though. The guy, again very aggressively, starts quizzing me on my social security #, date of birth, ASTROLOGICAL SIGN, even. I produced this information with no problems. He then asks me to sign my name three times on a piece of paper so he can verify that my signature matches the one on my ID and debit card. I don't want to play a psychiatrist, but there was a level of contempt that he seemed to have that seemed to stem from his feeling that I *must* be underage and therefore a liar.
At this point, I was ready to go, it almost didn't seem worth it. I've been an avid craft beer enthusiast since becoming of age and I've never encountered any security routine like this. I had some great beer in my fridge at home and that seemed like the best place to be, at that point.
As it turned out, my fiancee, who is older than me (and doesn't drink beer) forgot to bring her ID, and understandably no one without one is allowed in the place. So after the whole ordeal, the bartender told us that she couldn't be there anyways.
I'm sad the guy had to be such a hard-ass about it. There's a civility and courtesy that should be practiced, and it's too bad that was lacking.
That said, the place is pretty awesome for beer/atmosphere and I'm sure I just had a bad apple. Next time I'll bring my birth certificate and college transcripts just to be sure though.
02-05-2009 04:02:22 | More by markcl
3.33/5 rDev -27.5%
I must have stepped into some alternate universe. I've been to this place twice, based on reviews I've read here and in beer publications. Both times I found the selection good, and interesting, but not fantastic, the number of taps not being high. Neither time was there anything on cask.
Both times the service barely existed. Young (I'm over 50) slacker guys. The first time, he's chatting with an attractive young woman, obviously a higher priority than a couple of thirsty geezers, but c'mon, the place is supposed to be legendary! The second time, the bartender did not bother to walk over, or even shout over to the booth my friend and I were in. Both times, we had to get up and ask for service.
I'll stick with the Amherst Brewing Company when I'm in the area.
12-28-2007 22:53:52 | More by ImperialGuy
3.43/5 rDev -25.3%
Everyone raves about this place? It's small has no air conditioning and has no food (that is if you don't count the big barrel of stale unshelled peanuts. Not a lot of beers on tap (the place is not big enough for more taps). What was good was the ecclectic selection of hard to find beers. I had been looking all over for Stone Brewings Imperial Stout. I had to buy the whole 22 oz bottle but it was very good.
Beer geeks will appreciate the knowledgable staff and the fact that they use the proper glasses when pouring Belgians.
That being said. I will have to try this place again maybe in the early fall or early spring. The selection warrents a second shot.
07-18-2003 13:07:08 | More by ybnorml
3.7/5 rDev -19.4%
So I stopped by here after going to Amherst Brewing and People's Pint. After driving through some farms (I knew this was in a rural area), I pulled up behind the gas station next door. Interesting location for sure...
I was served a Founder's Breakfast Stout, my only beer, in a half pint glass. It was served at proper temperature, and apparently I got the last one of the keg, so it was free. Can't argue with that.
The bartenders were polite, but not particularly helpful. I guess it is a local's place, so I won't dock them here. They did get me a free Breakfast Stout...
The selection of beers is where I was disappointed. Sure, the selection wasn't bad. I struggled to find something I haven't had and sounded interesting in an area I don't even live, though. I decided on a beer that I have at home. Maybe I'm spoiled with Brick Store Pub in Atlanta, but I was expecting more - maybe some of the Cisco sours, a Lost Abbey beer or two, something local and interesting (BBC sours I've heard about?). They did have a decent lambic selection in bottles, but I was by myself so didn't go that way. I had tried them all anyways. Oh yeah, and no cask.
I really don't understand everyone's obsession with this place. It's rather expensive, the beer selection is mediocre by a beer bar's standards, and mostly everyone was drinking beer out of a huge stein (I realize it's because of some sort of club). This place could be great - I'm sure they have the means to get some great beer, but they just don't.
11-29-2010 13:57:56 | More by coreyfmcdonald
3.85/5 rDev -16.1%
Went here a few days ago. Great little bar that doesn't serve food but you can bring in your own. Great for picky eaters. Great tap list of rare imports and craft beers. Big bottle list that you can conquer over a few years. It's a nice place to bring a friend for drinks.
06-19-2014 01:02:19 | More by SpicyGose
3.88/5 rDev -15.5%
I've been here several times, but never reviewed it. It's a great place with an incredible selection of beers. Cask, on tap, and more bottles than I care to think about. Different selections every time I go in. There is also a decent selection of top shelf scotch and other liquors. This is a great place for a beer lover, no doubt about it.
The service has always been decent. No food is served, but there are peanuts by the door.
The atmosphere is okay. There is a little odd vibe from time to time that detracts a little from the atmosphere in my humble opinion. Food or air conditioning would be huge assets for this place in my opinion.
Worth checking out for the beer selection alone..
07-21-2006 23:32:43 | More by gotbeer
4.06/5 rDev -11.5%
Ummm.... this place was rated the number one place to get a beer on BA in 2006? Really?
The M&D is yet another fine beer bar located out in the sticks, in the last place you would expect to find it. It's located in a small strip mall, right next to a barbershop, chinese take out restuarant and a gas station. It's also pretty small, consisting of a small bar area to the left when you walk in (probably has 12 or 14 seats), a couple of good size table areas in the middle and then 3 or 4 booths to the right against the wall. I really doubt this place can hold more then 50 or 60 folks at any one time, tops! On the other hand, the place has a very relaxed, low key vibe, with a pretty eclectic selection of music going (loved hearing the ventures while I was there). The beer selection is certainly decent, consisting of around 20 beers on tap, not including a cider and one beer on cask (which this day was the entire butt porter). The selection here is pretty good, but I'd hardly call it mind blowing. They had 5 or 6 Stone beers on tap, and then 4 beers from Bink. They also had the Mongo DIPA from Port, Victory Braumeister pils, smuttynose baltic porter and old brown dog, anchor liberty ale, etc. A nice selection, no doubt, but I can't say it exactly wowed me. Bottle selection was a bit more impressive, with around 160-170 selections. They had some nice stuff, but there was nothing on the list I hadn't seen before or can't get at home. No disrespect, but I was really hoping I might see something at the M&D that I can't get back in Baltimore (they did have the high and mighty twin beast stout, but that's the only thing I saw that I hadn't ever seen or had before).
Service was good. The two young women tending bar were friendly, pleasant and quick. I'm not sure just how much then knew about beer, but it was more then sufficient for my needs.
Prices were high, no two ways about it. 12 ounce pours of anything Belgian were in the $9 or $10 range, and can someone please tell me why arrogant bastard needs to be $6.50 a pint? Generally, most pints were in the $6 range, except for the liberty ale, which for some reason was $4 a pint.
As near as I can tell, they don't serve any food here, but you can order in from any of the surrounding restaurants (accoustics are not good here, so it's not the easiest place to hold a conversation - I think that's what I was told). A number of places do this in the NW, and frankly I thought it a good idea here as well. Otherwise, you can help yourself to free peanuts while sipping on your beer at the bar.
This is definitely a very good place, but it's certainly not the sort of place I'd drive a 100 miles to get to (which I do rather frequently to get to some of the better beer bars in Philly). I don't know. I really had high expectations for this place, and frankly I feel kind of let down. Oh well...
02-28-2010 03:38:31 | More by John_M
4.09/5 rDev -10.9%
Saw that the Moan and Dove was highly rated by fellow beer advocates, so I was very excited to stop by on my recent trip to Wester Mass. Finally made it by on a raining Saturday afternoon. First impressionwas good with the outside painted black and good signage from the road. I was able to find a seat at the bar next to a patron enjoying his hummus, cheese and bread. Service took awhile as only one person working, about 20 minutes later second employee arrived but service remained slow. Was encouraged to sample the cask Tally Ho before purchasing. Enjoyed it along with the Arogant Bastered draft along with the free peanuts. Very surprised that fellow patrons at the bar were not more friendly. Overall I enjoyed the trip and will return asap to sample more beer I can not get here in NC. Would have loved to have been in town for their pub crawl.
04-29-2005 02:41:35 | More by buckiflyer
4.09/5 rDev -10.9%
This place reminds me of those swank little coffee shops in the old days where the young intellectuals would go to talk about society and eclectic topics.
A little dark, but not too dark. It's a rather small place with rather uncomfortable seating, all wood. Right next to the door is a barrel of peanuts where you can just scoop up a bowl full and bring it to your table. They are in shell and must have been brined, but a lot less salty (and much better) than your normal beernuts. Try to avoid the bottom of the barrel. A cliche that is true in this case. No food otherwise, which is a bit of a bummer. I like to eat with my beer.
Staff is very knowledgeable about the beers, but they usually are understaffed and it takes awhile to get served.
Beer selection is awesome! Somewhere around 150 beers in their repetoire. Always new ones to try. The draught range is pretty good (20), though, so it's really a bottle place for the variety. A lot of imports, by far the best selection in beers of anywhere I have seen so far in MA or NY.
A word to the student, this isn't a very cheap place nor are there specials on beers, it's a place to go have one or two interesting offerings while spending a little as well.
01-08-2005 15:22:27 | More by aquatonex
The Moan and Dove in Amherst, MA
100 out of 100 based on 104 ratings.