Weizen Doppelbock - Capital Brewery

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BA SCORE
87
very good

48 Ratings
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Ratings: 48
Reviews: 38
rAvg: 3.9
pDev: 13.08%
Wants: 4
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Capital Brewery visit their website
Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Summer

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-15-2002)
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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a pilsner glass. 8.0% ABV, 1470 on the neck.

A - A thick three-finger, bone-colored head rises from a moderate pour to lower slowly while leaving a nice veil of lace on the glass. The color is between a standard bock and a weiss. Hazed over and amber golden with straw yellow highlights.

S - Even with the twist of the cap, it's got a strong banana-weiss nose from the yeast. Hints of clove, clay, and white pepper come from the yeast esters as well. Wheat is secondary but still strong and the maltiness falls to the background, barely even present beside the banana. Good, but two much weiss, not enough bock.

T - The blend of strong bock malts and the German yeast strain doesn't really impress. While it's good, it feels like a forced mash-up of strong banana and hints of yeast, clove, and clay with a lightly toasted amber malt backing. I'll give it that the alcohol doesn't show through at all though.

M - Moderate carbonation provides a tickle to the finish while the body is medium and fairly smooth. A little crisp to the finish, the banana and spice lingers while the softness pulls through.

D - I'm constantly burping up banana Runts! Besides that (and I love banana Runts, don't get me wrong) its decent. The dopplebock is lost though. It just seems like a strong weissbier.

Photo of Duff27
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of tavernjef
4.38/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Hazy, cloudy dark gold with a peachy tone in color, thin white head of tight foam, faded fast, leaves some stringy lace. Smell is faintly sweet, a bit of wheat, lemon, orange, and peach with a light touch of spice. Taste is great of lemon and orange and incredibly thick and chewy, excellent sweet tartness and citrusy sourness, solid sweet wheat, but all mellowed down and easy to handle. Feel is pretty full and has a very nice creamy smoothness with a slight tart hold in the middle and then has this strange little sourness left on the lips like I had just bit into a orange with the peel still on. This is awesome stuff, I think I'll have another.

Photo of ZAP
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Another dandy from Capital...cloudy orange color....nose is typical weizen...I get heavy cloves and banana's....low carbonation....a bit syrupy...slick...sweet flavor...bananna's...also I get some cinaman...some might find this a little oversweet, but I like it...not in aventius's class but worth seeking out...

Update-2003 version...more of a sweet/sour flavor...very yeasty....interesting but considerably different in flavor than Aventinus..one six-packk is enough of this for one year...

Photo of barnzy78
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.73/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: A 12 fl.oz. long neck brown bottle. No useful information like a freshness date or strength listed, but there is a “health warning” that is utter bollocks & cash refund information that I notice as I toss the empty bottle into the Ocean from my Beach Front Apartment – go figure what’s of more use to me. A twist off cap helps to ruin the lifelines on my pale palms, that’ll fool the Fortune Teller; maybe I’ll have 6 Children now instead of 2!

Appearance: Poured with a rather gelatinous appearance & low carbonation, a small ¼” off-white head formed like a delayed fizz from a dissolving tablet in water. The head quickly fades to a broken covering with no lacing whatsoever. A turbid cloudy orange body has a Weizen look about it, but sadly, the beer looks flat & tired.

Nose: Wh-Y-easty smells are strong & definitely advertise the first half of the beers titled style, but I am not so sure about the latter. A slightly acetic hint hides at the back end of the aromas.

Taste: A very “spiky” beer, by that I mean that the flavors come in spikes rather than a transient series of smooth curves. Wheat, Malts & Yeast introduce a citrus flavored acetic acid towards the end. A slightly cloying Banana-sweetness festers around the latter quarter & threatens to remove the acidic aspects, but like the end of infinity, never quite gets there.

Mouthfeel: Solid feel to this beer, even with the lack of carbonation. It fails the smoothness test though, its spiky, sharp flavor change profile make this a hard beer to settle down with.

Drinkability: The lack of synergy between the component flavors makes this tough to drink in quantity. As for its Drinkability in relation to the sample size I have, it is quite good. Maybe 3.5 is fair.

Overall: A really good Weizen, which has all of the necessary characteristics required for such a beer. But I just wish that they were more smoothly linked together, rather than just a random collection. Disjointed at times, it lacks a synergy for me, I have not had too many Weizen Doppelbocks, but I just feel that this beer could be better. Strange – what exactly makes this a Weizen Doppelbock as opposed to a Weizen I wonder? – I am not sure whether it is my untrained palate, or my naïve lack of experience in Doppelbock matters, which results in this failure of distinction. Tastes like other Teutonic Weizens to me.

>Bum's Homework
– List 5 Differences between a Weizen & a Weizen-Doppelbock.

Thanks to BigHuge for the Detention & Extra Homework.

Photo of cokes
4.33/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Throws a dusty brown-peach glass with a thinnish tan head, with fair retention.
Bombards the nose with banana bread notes. Clove spiciness lurks as well.
Flavor starts with some sour apple notes. Switches to a banana sweetness. Spices rush in next. Vanilla, clove and maybe ginger. Malts then assert themselves with sweet,lush carmel hues. Finishes yeasty sour and somewhat alcoholic.
Fairly thick bodied. A summertime sipper. And a very unique and tasty one at that.

Photo of whartontallboy
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of blackie
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: a deep, murky amber beer supports a tan head with average retention

s: wheaty body with a spicy snap under sweet caramelized sugars, heavy yeast profile features really nice clove aromas and ripe banana, richly sweet breads and cookies, pungent and complex

m: carbonation light to medium and a touch prickly, medium bodied with a slight slickness

t: sweet wheat and caramelized malt form a rich base, lots of ripe banana and clove, sugar cookie, grassy hops with a spicy-sweet finish, great

d: easy for the abv, a very enjoyable weizenbock

from dirtylou, thanks for the whale mane!

Photo of morimech
3.73/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cloudy amber color with a large head that had very good retention before settling to a thick cap. Moderate amount of lacing is left on the glass. Aroma of banana and cloves. No sign of alcohol. Flavor is like a strong weizen beer just as expected. More spicey than fruity but there is some bitter orange pith that lingers in the aftertaste. There is a little tartness as well that I find distracting and not complimentary. This may be due to age as I am sure this bottle is several months old. No sign of alcohol in the flavor. Solid body with nice carbonation. Does not really make the flavors pop though. A solid weizenbock that I need to try fresher if it is brewed again.

Photo of UncleJimbo
3.55/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz, brown bottle, twist off cap, no date.

This doppelbock poured a hazy, orangish-amber color with some white foam (with coaxing) that dissipated rapidly. The smell was sweet and malty and fruity with some wheat, yeast, and alcohol present. The taste was sweet and malty with a touch of caramel or toffee but also tangy and fruity with a bit of hops only in the finish. There were also phenolic and soapy flavors, as well as alcohol. The mouthfeel was smooth with an almost viscous feeling, but the body was medium and the carbonation very low. It was slightly warming. This was a decent beer that grew on me as I drank it (definitely more flavorful as it warmed up).

Thanks to feloniousmonk for this interesting offering.

Photo of jsh420
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of ADR
4.05/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Hazy, orangey color, spidery head settles into patches of light foam. Sweet syrup aroma. Full bodied impression. Pepppery taste at first with denser fruit malts that combine with the spice. Continues in body until swallow, almost like a sweet gravy. More strident lemon notes than Aventinus. Fits Dopplebock category in its coating properties, slight alcohol warmth, and strong malt properties. Not complex, what you taste initially is what persists. A little too cloying for me to give a high drinkability score. Interesting brew.

Photo of seeswo
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of BeerLover99
3.78/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: cloudy deep amber/orange hue body, 1 finger head, great lacing

S: big date/fig/fruit scent, malt

T: sweet fruit front, big firm malt

M: medium body, smooth, fair carbonation, semi-dry finish

D: WOW! Capital should change their name to the capitol of American bocks. They really know how to sock it to your taste buds. A sipper to be sure, alcohol well-hidden. Delicious velvet beer.

Photo of richkrull
4.45/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured a hazy orange-copper color with just a little bit of head on it. Nice aroma - sweet, citrus notes. Taste is very good. Heavy citrus with a bit of an aftertaste. Very light mouthfeel considering this is 8%. No alcohol taste at all. This beer is very drinkable despite the above average ABV. I'll definitely be looking for this again.

Photo of marc77
3.33/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Turbid light copper hue. Thin, but persistent ivory white head leaves sparse lace. Pronounced clove phenol melds with upfront bready sweetness to lend a dominant sweet herb impression in aroma. Yeast must and tropical, fruity esters couple to lend a secondary, but perceptibly overripe banana note. Enticing, but not quite balanced aromawise. Brusque snap of grainy wheat tartness incipient in flavor is ensued by a permeating melange of light toffee and sugary, clove studded banana pudding. Bready base malt notes eek in mid palate along with paltry, token hop bitterness, and manage to partially offset the chunky sweetness. Yeast must persists as a constant undertone. Firmly viscous and proteinaceous in mouthfeel, with a detracting, beefy, syrupy quality that precludes perfection. Finishes with a surge of tartness and browned butter that fades promptly. A strange, enjoyable brew. The residual sweetness weighs heavily on the palate and is a bit cumbersome, though. It reminescent of a 50 / 50 mix of their Blonde Doppelbock and Tucher Hefeweizen. Doesn't quite work. A hellesweizendoppelbock? Some chocolate notes would've been nice.

Photo of ssimpson89
4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of brewcrew76
4.15/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Slightly hazy orange, amber with a thin white head that sticks around.

S - Sweet banana, clove, pepper, wheat malt in the background.

T - Strong banana and clove with bready malts. Slightly yeasty with some sweet caramel as it warms.

M - Medium body with a slight slickness and smooth, soft creaminess.

D - The alcohol is hidden. Strong banana and clove but a pretty smooth Weizenbock.

Photo of zeledonia
3.68/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Another one of Capital's many bock variants.

Pours a very hazy orange color, with one finger of off-white head. Decent retention and lacing.

Smell is nice. Quite fruity, with a blast of peaches, that gives way to some pleasant spice and yeasty esters. Lots of good stuff going on in here. It's high, light, and airy, and I like it.

Taste has many of the same characteristics, but in very different balance. Here it's really heavy on the peaches, so much so that I can't taste much else. Lots of dry wheat as well. The spice and lightness that are so good in the nose aren't there, or if they are they're buried under a bushel of ripe peaches.

Mouthfeel is okay, medium-bodied, definitely on the flat side.

Okay, and smells great, but what's with all the peaches. It's seriously fruity, in a way that I find surprising for this style.

Photo of kbutler1
3.9/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. 2010 vintage. Poured into a DFH tulip glass a slightly hazy copper orange color with a 2 finger head of bone white. Nice lace left as the head settles. Banana, caramel, spice, wheat, and slight alochol round out the nose. Medium mouthfeel. Sweet dark fruit start with a caramel raisin taste along with banana and clove. Some orange as peach notes as well. Ever so slight bitterness in the end. Alcohol warms the throat as an afterthought. Pretty decent and easy drinking.

Photo of falloutsnow
4.13/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle from Friar Tuck's in Savoy, IL
No freshness date on bottle, picked up late summer 2011
Poured into a Weihenstephaner weizen glass

Capital's Weizen Doppelbock, currently pat of their Square Series, is a solid version of the style, focusing on balance between light and dark malts along with expected, intensified banana and apple pie spice aromas and flavors. This should be a go-to beer for fans of the style, with its generally well-hidden alcohol and pleasant flavors/aromas.

From the bottle, pours a voluminous head (>3cm) of tiny, soft-looking bubbles, off-white in color. Gradually reduces to a thin cap atop the beer, probably about 0.5cm. Leaves very modest amounts of lacing. Body is a dark copper color, components of brown, orange, and yellow. In light, this is a hazy, dull orange color with yellowish highlights. Sluggish carbonation is visible. Overall, the beer gives the impression that it is a "big" wheat beer: ethanol cuts the head, the carbonation is slower in a thicker body, the color is deep and rich.

Aroma is quite good, full of hearty banana esters, wheat malt and bread crust, a bit of caramel, diacetyl (butterscotch), and very mild nuttiness. Probably one of my favorite aromas in a weizenbock.

Taste opens with bread crust flavors along with some toasted malt components. Sweet and syrupy caramel flavors quickly materialize, as do rich banana esters and pie spices. Continues sliding across the palate giving off bready, syrupy caramel, and banana flavors with a bit of pie spice bite. Slight ethanol flavor in the back of the throat/tongue, only noticeable as beer warms. Aftertaste is of banana esters and some caramelized malts, but also with a bit of cloying sweetness.

Beer is medium to medium-heavy bodied with somewhat low carbonation. Resultant mouthfeel is fairly thick, chewy. Ethanol can be felt in the back of the throat/tongue, ever so slightly.

Photo of FreshmanPour77
3/5  rDev -23.1%

Photo of Mdog
4.08/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Murky, cloudy orange, good head though.

Smell: Yeasty, some bananas, spices.

Taste: Sweet, mild banana bread flavor, a little more lemon flavor than expected.

Drinkability: A nice treat for after dinner, not a session beer.

Finally got to try this one after seeing it on this site for years. It's a pretty good weizenbock but could use a little less lemon and a little more banana. Worth a try.

Photo of WastingFreetime
3.05/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed from session notes.

Pours out an amber color with two fingers of densely-packed foamy head that sticks around for over three minutes but only leaves behind minimal lacing on the glass. Smells like a caramel-coated banana with a side order of assorted fruity esters with just a garnish of clove and spice. Tastes of sweet wheat malt, heavy banana and caramel, but has even less of the spicing than the nose did. Unfortunately, this means that the brew dances back and forth on the cusp of being too sweet for my personal tastes. The finish dries out a little bit with some limited boozey hotness levels, but still remains somewhat sickly sweet overall. Texturally, somewhat thick and sluggishly carbonated.

A pretty average Weizenbock, I've had better and I've had worse than this. What would have made it spectacular would have been a more varied spectrum of hopping to counter all the cloying sweetness and a more assertive sparkling carbonation to help lift the body and break up that same sweetness.

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Weizen Doppelbock from Capital Brewery
87 out of 100 based on 48 ratings.