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Mill Street Franconian Bock - Mill Street Brew Pub

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BA SCORE
79
okay

28 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 28
Reviews: 20
rAvg: 3.36
pDev: 11.31%
Wants: 0
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Mill Street Brew Pub visit their website
Ontario, Canada

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.70% ABV

Availability: Spring

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: biegaman on 04-22-2011)
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Reviews by TheHammer:
Photo of TheHammer
2.75/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: How can something that has that much carbonation in the body, not produce even a half finger of head? There's no head at all! Thankfully the body is a deep chestnut brown with ample carbonation.

Smell: Malt and dates. That's pretty much it, there just isn't a lot of complexity and warming didn't really help it out. Lacking in potency means a low score for this one.

Taste: Pretty much the same way it smells, a massive dose of molasses malt that is pulled back by a fig and date sort of taste and maybe a slight taste of bitter chocolate at the end. I wouldn't call it bad or good.

Mouthfeel: Good carbonation but the alcohol isn't well disguised and gives it a bit of a solvent feeling. It has a bit of an almost creamy element, but the complete lack of head makes it seem a bit out of place.

Drinkability: Nothing offensive, but nothing special. It comes off at the heavier end of medium bodied, which is really what it should be. Really only fit for the Fireplace.

Final Thoughts: I got this in a Mill St. Seasonal sampler and this beer is what made me pick it up, and the ESB nearly made me want to say forget it. However after trying them, the ESB came out ahead and this didn't fare so well. I wouldn't say there's anything here that I'd really be keen on giving another go. Pass

TheHammer, Jan 16, 2012
More User Reviews:
Photo of beerhunter13
3.5/5  rDev +4.2%

beerhunter13, Apr 09, 2012
Photo of Sammy
3.6/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Not quite the style, but an enjoyable sweet German style beer. Sugar, medium mouthfeel, light brown colour. Virtually no head. Neutral, malty aroma. A tad of raisin and grape,caramel in the middle, booze in the finish. Very light on hops. Above average carbonation, with a little mineral Perrier feel and taste to it.

Sammy, Dec 21, 2011
Photo of joemcgrath27
3.1/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - clear ruby copper with a short head that dissipated fairly quickly leaving not much
S - dominated by syrupy sweet and bloodlike aromas, cherries and a hint of booziness
T - overly sugary sweet, a mineral quality, some fruitiness, but the the sweetness is generally overdone
M - medium body, a little on the flat side, the sweetness leaves a film on the teeth, a little alcohol heat to finish
O - overall disappointing, big props to Mill Street for continuing to experiment with new styles, this one just doesn't match up to quality doppelbocks

joemcgrath27, Feb 29, 2012
Photo of jbonapar
2.48/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Reviewing this according to style.

Poured a light honey amber with a thin head. Very minimal malt aroma with a subtle spicy bitterness

Medium/light body with a lager like flavor as well as some slightly pungent hops. Very dull for a doppelbock, very light. More consistent with a german lager than a dopplebock as far as I am concerned. Some weird flavor in there as well. I notice someone else said metallic and I would certainly agree.

Mouthfeel: Light.

Overall, very very disappointed in this beer. A beer with a fancy name for the massess. Its not that its bad, its actually easy to drink but its not anything close to a bock or a dopplebock.

jbonapar, Jan 14, 2012
Photo of Phyl21ca
3/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle: Poured a medium amber color bock with a medium size foamy head with OK retention and not much lacing. Aroma of sweet malt with caramel notes. Taste is not overly complex with some caramelized malt notes with light touch of toffee. Body is a bit light for style with good carbonation. Not bad but lacking taste or complexity.

Phyl21ca, Mar 21, 2012
Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.13/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle date of 12511??? Served at 50F in to Tulip glass.

A - Medium brown/ruby colour; translucent. One finger of bubbly off white head.

S - The initial nose is an off-putting acidic/tart aroma that disappeared after a few seconds. Bready malts, chocolate, caramel, raisins. After the initial aroma, the nose was actually inviting.

T - Sweet bready malts with caramel and a light chocolate flavour. Brown sugar and raisins in the background. The sweetness is cut by the ABV, creating a good balance. Fairly easy drinking considering the ABV. After a while a distracting acidic taste showed up, similar to the initial nose. Still a decent enough beer overall, but not memorable.

M - Light to medium body, sightly creamy. Moderate to high carbonation. Could be improved with more body and less carbonation.

TheSevenDuffs, Jan 09, 2012
Photo of spinrsx
3.53/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz Bottle

Appearance - Copper colour with a large size frothy beige coloured head. There is an average amount of carbonation and there is some good lacing on the sides of the glass. The head lasted for 4 minutes before it was gone.

Smell - Malts, raisins, caramel/butterscotch, corn

Taste & Mouth - The beer has an average amount of carbonation and I can taste raisins, malts, and a butterscotch/caramel flavour. I can also taste a hint of banana and a bit of the alcohol. It ends with a malty dark fruit aftertaste.

Overall – I enjoyed the beer more as is approached room temperature. While the taste isn't anything groundbreaking, it's still an enjoyable and very drinkable beer. I can't see myself buying it again though with some many other great beers in this style available.

spinrsx, Nov 23, 2011
Photo of RedAleMan
3.75/5  rDev +11.6%

RedAleMan, Nov 20, 2011
Photo of liamt07
3.53/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from the brewpub store, 355ml listed at 7% ABV. Into a tulip.

Poured an amber brown, with a crisp white head. Quite solid lacing, with a moderate film of retention. Dark bread, toasty malts, and some toffee on the nose, with a bit of grain. Taste has a rich toffee, grain and breadiness to it. Maybe some dark fruits, along the line of some plums or raisins. A general dry sugary sweetness, without any noticeable alcohol anywhere on the palate. Pretty full feel, and a pretty low carbonation. An OK doppel, but nothing complex or worth coming back to. No real off flavours, but I'm not too intrigued by this either.

liamt07, Jan 03, 2012
Photo of Watershed
3.75/5  rDev +11.6%

Watershed, Jul 11, 2013
Photo of andrenaline
3.63/5  rDev +8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Part of the Mill Street seasonal mixer pack...

A - Pours a crystal clear golden copper colour, finger of head with no retention or lacing.

S - Musty caramel, toffee, roasted almonds and cashews, and a hint of grape juice.

T - Flavours are a tad mild for the style, caramel and toffee dominate, bitter leafy hops come through alongside a touch of abv sweetness.

M - Medium bodied, goes down smooth and finishes wet.

O - An easy drinking doppelbock, and possibly a good sample for those new to the style. It could be a bit more rich on the flavours as it lacks a bit of substance. Worth a try, but don't get your hopes up.

andrenaline, Dec 08, 2011
Photo of GodOfBeer
3.63/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Pours a light, clear amber with a thin white head, not much lacing.

Smells raisiny, sweet, nutty, lagerish.

Tastes of grapes, raisins, dark sugary fruity malts, nutty, caramel, apple, grains. Pretty interesting Doppelbock. Could use a bit more body and hops. Thin mouthfeel.

Overall a fairly good version of the style, not the best ever but still worth a try.

GodOfBeer, Dec 26, 2011
Photo of JZ57
3.5/5  rDev +4.2%

JZ57, Feb 19, 2012
Photo of wordemupg
3.38/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

355ml bottle poured into tulip 9/12/11

A clear dark copper with a few tiny bubbles with just a short lived thumbs width of head that leaves no lace

S smells like a sour caramel apple and some rye bread

T some brown sugar and a little toasty nuts to go along with what I smell, an improvement over the nose and no booze detected

M a little more body then the color would imply, good carbonation and a nutty apple aftertaste

O not the best Bock I've had but nothing to be ashamed of either, room for improvement isn't always a bad thing

this is the one that inspired me to grab the mixed 6-er and lets just say I'm glad I still have a Tankhouse and Coffee Porter left in the fridge to salvage the otherwise underwhelming mixer

wordemupg, Dec 10, 2011
Photo of korguy123
2.93/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz bottle into shaker pint glass.
Thanks to my brother nwfodder for picking this and other goodies up at the brewery.

A- Clear dark amber pour with a two finger soapy off white head. Head drops to a finger width and chunky lacing around the glass.

S- Brown sugar, dates and a slight metallic smell that is a mix between grains and the metallic smell I get from most Belgian Strong Dark Ales. There is a slight grape or pear skin smell that I'm getting up front, it's a little strange.

T- Grains, dark fruits and a touch of that metallic taste. not as sweet as the nose leads on.

M- Light bodied for a Doppelbock, scarce feeling on the carbonation.

O- I like what Mill Street does for the most part but this one threw me off a little. The metallic taste I get drives me nuts. I really wish I knew what it was giving me that taste so I can avoid it altogether.

korguy123, Jan 09, 2012
Photo of mjacquard
3.5/5  rDev +4.2%

mjacquard, Nov 05, 2012
Photo of biegaman
3.6/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Franconian Bock, unintentionally I'm sure, actually shares the same time-tarnished, clay-brown colour that you'd see on the roofs of old churches and houses when driving along the Castle Road in that region of Germany. Lovely. Unfortunately, its head doesn't make much of a roof, and even less so any kind of ornate lacing. But such an immaculate, spotless clarity is especially appreciated given the darker tone.

The aroma splits the spotlight between pale and dark malts; very sweet, somewhat caramelly notes of cherry skin and red grape on the one end while heavier, slightly chocolaty notes tip the scale at the other. A toasty, melanoidin-rich air supplants the both of them and is misted in a faintly leathery musk. Alcohol esters are curiously absent. It's pleasant, and on the button for the style, but lacks the profundity of the best examples.

This bock would benefit from two things: more malt and more hops. The flavour profile, like that in the aroma, is pleasant and to style, touting a brown sugar-like sweetness, an almost peaty earthiness, dried dark fruits and browned bread crusts, but it lacks the 'umph!' that marks a 'doppel' (double!) bock from a standard one. A little more bitterness, although untypical for the style, would at least give the beer a little more life.

The lack of carbonation I'll attribute to the growler, but the lack of rich, chewy maltiness and melanoidins means the beer gains little traction where it counts most: the mouthfeel. All I'm left with is a vaguely sweet/fruity essence that could be the malts, the yeast or the alcohol (or a combination). But I don't feel like I'm consuming anything all that strong or rich nor that what I'm drinking is anything more than a standard-strength bock. Too thin.

I may have Van Gogh's ear for music, but I like to think I have a pretty good palate for beer and this simply doesn't register to me like a good doppelbock should. While Mill Street has imitated the style superficially, it lacks all the intangibles (and some of the tangibles too); it's like a long, hard hit ball that dies on the warning track. While I'm happy to drink it here in Toronto, I know it wouldn't cut the mustard in the real Franconia.

biegaman, Apr 22, 2011
Photo of beerbuddah
2.65/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

sort of dissapointed with this brew. Not to sort of bold taste you'd expect with that 7.0 ABV. Way too sweet for me, too malty. took over the whole flavour for the beer. didnt enjoy the mouthfeel either. There was no head and the lacing faded almost immediately.

can be summed up in a simple word : meh

beerbuddah, Mar 13, 2012
Photo of tbeckett
3.28/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

From the mixed six at the LCBO.

A - Pours copper, bright, with decent carbonation coming up. A film of white head fades to nothing instantly. No lace and no retention.

S - Earthy, strong caramel, smoke. Very straightforward.

T - Earthy hops with caramel and breadiness. Raisins are there as well. The metallic element is present as many other reviews have noted, but it works.

M - Carbonation is between mils and medium with a medium body that seems a bit thin and a sweet finish.

O/D - Not as rich and satisfying as other Doppelbocks, but it's highly drinkable for the ABV and pretty tasty. The rich caramel is a nice touch and there are a few layers hidden beneath it as well. Not a great Mill Street brew, but a decent offering.

tbeckett, Jan 23, 2012
Photo of ElGallo
3.5/5  rDev +4.2%

ElGallo, Dec 24, 2011
Photo of scott451
3.4/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass. A big three finger off white head on a clear dark amber. The head soon diminishes to a thin layer. Some lacing.

Malty smells. Tastes of sweet malts. Brown sugar. Alcohol creeps up and becomes steadily more apparent.

Creamy mouthfeel. Smooth and well balanced. Nod bad overall. A bit weak in the flavour department. A middle of the road version of what should be a fairly big beer. I would buy this again.

scott451, Jan 03, 2012
Photo of fostachild
4.05/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

from the new season sampler, 7%.

pours super clear amber colour, inch of head fades quickly into some nice lacing.

smell is nice - sweet, malty, fruity, orange peel/citrus.

simply put, it had nice sweet, crisp malty taste with a bitter caramel finish. well carbonated and great drinkability. overall quite impressed with this beer, really enjoyed it.

fostachild, Nov 13, 2011
Photo of slitherySOB
2.93/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a clear copper colour with little if any head at all. Smells a bit, grapey, oddly. Bit of caramel and toffee. Bit of a malty sweet flavour. Some nuttiness as well. Mouthfeel is a tad thin. Definitely one of Mill Street's weaker brews. It doesn't even feel like a true doppelbock. And I'm surprised at the ABV, considering the little alcohol flavour.

slitherySOB, Dec 23, 2011
Photo of bigox420
4/5  rDev +19%

bigox420, Mar 03, 2012
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Mill Street Franconian Bock from Mill Street Brew Pub
79 out of 100 based on 28 ratings.