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Old Man (Winter Ale) - Southern Tier Brewing Company

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Old Man (Winter Ale)Old Man (Winter Ale)

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BA SCORE
83
good

1,193 Ratings
THE BROS
84
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Ratings: 1,193
Reviews: 518
rAvg: 3.69
pDev: 12.74%
Wants: 33
Gots: 46 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Southern Tier Brewing Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Jason on 12-17-2003)
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Photo of jonziefle
3.85/5  rDev +4.3%

Apperance: Poured a nice moderate amber color. Perfectly clear and minimal head.

Smell: A very light smell, characterizes by mild hops with a hint of fruit.

Taste/Mouthfeel: Tastes of citrus hops, with more sweetness than bitterness from the hops. Not as "spiced" tasting as many holiday beers. Very smooth. Taste is bordering on being too light.

Drinkability: Very good. A very smooth beer, that doesn't leave much lingering behind. You can't taste the 8% alcohol at all. Easily drinkable even when not looking for a winter/holiday beer.

jonziefle, Dec 05, 2008
Photo of MMAJYK
3.7/5  rDev +0.3%

From my notebook.

A- Darker colored copper in color. Brilliantly transparent and no trace of head.

S- Slightly musty, some caramel and earthy hops.

T- Lightly malty with mediocre hop bite. Finish is dry, but leaves a little bit of a sweet aftertaste, somehow. Not sure how that works...

M- Light in the mouth and low carbonation.

D- I could drink this one more than one at a time. However, the 8% ABV would catch up to you eventually.

MMAJYK, Dec 01, 2008
Photo of CortexBomb
2.4/5  rDev -35%

I'm reviewing this based on the style listing here, which frankly annoys me. This is more of an APA or an IPA...it has no old ale characteristics that I can discern.

Pour is amber, nice looking brew. Mild head. Nose is citrus twang and malts. Fairly classic pale.

The flavour on this is two major things: ruby red grapefruit and casual caramel malts. The grapefruit is not particularly aggressive and fades off the palette pretty quickly though.

The bottom line: This would be an across the board average beer if it was listed as an APA or IPA, as an old ale though? Overhopped, undermalted, and extremely shallow. Pick this up if you're looking for something mildly hoppy for the winter, but avoid if you actually want an old ale.

CortexBomb, Dec 01, 2008
Photo of Kraken
3.73/5  rDev +1.1%

Reviewed from notes.

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a standard beer mug. Firm pour yields one inch of off white head that fades quickly. Nice lace. Pours a moderately dark copper amber.

Nose- Citric hops, lemon zest and grapefruit. Plenty of caramel and toffee notes.

Palate- A well hopped winter warmer. Light lemon zest, plenty of toffee and caramel notes. Some what thin. Immensely bitter and long finish. Very pleasant.

Mouthfeel- a bit thin with very active carbonation.

Drinkability- Very Good.

Kraken, Nov 30, 2008
Photo of oriolesfan4
3.74/5  rDev +1.4%

When I saw this beer was 8% ABV I didn't believe it.. when having it for dinner today I could have sworn that it couldn't be more than 5%. This thing is too drinkable for that high of an ABV... but hey this is a damn good beer. Great mouthfeel and finish, nice hoppy flavors to it. Goes down nice and easy and I almost drank it too quickly to enjoy it. A nice winter seasonal here from Southern Tier.

oriolesfan4, Nov 29, 2008
Photo of IronCitySteve
3.63/5  rDev -1.6%

A: Pours a burnt orangish red color. Not quite copper, but close. A decent foam head that eventually disappears. Blotchy lacing that lasts the whole drink.

S: Lots of hops and barley. Lots of citrus with just a small sprinkling of malt.

T: Lots of citrus hop flavoring, with some caramel, toffee and bread. The hop flavoring definitely is the more predominant.

M: A slick oily mouthfeel.

D: A good Ale with a high ABV. Not a good session beer. Would be worth cellaring.

IronCitySteve, Nov 28, 2008
Photo of Doomcifer
4/5  rDev +8.4%

Pours a very clear darker shade of amber with a very good head that retains very well and leaves behind good lacing. Smells of citrus hops and some maltiness. Taste is very hoppy. This is not what I ws expecting at all...more like a very good IPA. Very well balanced between the great hop character and the malts. A certain spice element is present in the background but not along the lines of a traditional holiday spice like nutmeg or cinnamon..more like a spiciness from the hops. Good deal of carbonation, drier finish, and pretty crisp. Very drinkable and enjoyable. This belongs in the same vein as SN Celebration Ale. A Holiday IPA....only much better imho.

Doomcifer, Nov 28, 2008
Photo of robbyc1
3.53/5  rDev -4.3%

A: Amber clear with a decent white head, nice lace.

S: Mostly hops, nose of grapefruit, other fruit, and a bit of malt.

T: Big up front hops, a malt then the bitterness comes as a mineral/metallic flavor. It's more like a strong American IPA. No sweetness at the end, malt not enough.

M& D: Good body, easy drinker.

It needs more malt to be an old ale, especially if it's going to be a winter warmer.

December update: I upped my scores here for another go round, liked the hoppiness more, nice dry finish, the floral bouquet of hops are very nice, still light for an old ale but a different hoppy take on one.

robbyc1, Nov 27, 2008
Photo of BWH3
2.58/5  rDev -30.1%

A: Amber with faintly beige head. Retention is good. The amber is more on the brown side and a bit peculiar. Crystal clear. A sticky head on a swirl.

S: Not much. A grainy somewhat malty aroma. Not much hops aroma to speak of.

T: Initially a bit of Marzen malt then the bitterness comes as a mineral/metallic flavor. The grain almost tart astringent flavor fades in at the end. I guess I expected some nutty and sweet or spicy notes that just never surfaced in the nose or on the palate.

M: Somewhat creamy from the head. Good retention. Fairly still.

D: A holiday offering that is just okay.

BWH3, Nov 26, 2008
Photo of BMoney575
2.78/5  rDev -24.7%

Sampled on 11-23-08

Pours a clear deep amber color, with a quickly fading head that leaves creamy rings of lacing.

Smell is malty, with an odd quality I can't place. Maybe a little smoky, and just a slight hint of dark fruit.

Taste is thin and adjuncty. Sweet, with little hop character. At least the booze is well masked.

Mouthfeel is good, thick and creamy.

Drinkability is poor, but at least you'll get a buzz quickly.

Overall, I don't know where the rating comes from. Southern Tier has once again made a steaming failure of a beer.

BMoney575, Nov 24, 2008
Photo of Nickls
3.78/5  rDev +2.4%

A - Poured with a thin white head, and a clear brown/copper hue. No haze here

S - Sweetish malts, and some dark fruit aromas

T - Not as malty as indicated by the aroma, but with some degree of spices and fruitier flavors. Dry finish

M - Medium to thin MF, with tight carbonation. A bit sparklier than I would have expected

D - Definitely drinkable given the ABV. Alcohol is well placed, and the flavors are enough to demand sip after sip.

Overall, this is not that complex, but still very good considering other versions of the style. Great warming factor, which is spot on for this cold evening. Recommended.

Nickls, Nov 24, 2008
Photo of Zraly
3.7/5  rDev +0.3%

Pours copper and off-white head. Nice notes of orange peel and fresh hops.

Smooth and well-balanced, this definitely makes for a nice warmer on a cold night. Sweet, fruity malt nose with a firm hop finish. Mouthfeel is dry in the finish - would actually be nice with a hunk of bread and extra sharp cheddar.

Not pushing the envelop, but representing seasonal (i.e., winter) flavor and style well.

Zraly, Nov 23, 2008
Photo of keepersj12
4.05/5  rDev +9.8%

Very nice for a winter ale. Not as sweet as some and a lot more hop in the finish. Dark pour with a malt aroma. Starts out malty sweet and ends very dry. Full bodied and complex. Quite easy to drink especially with the high ABV. Give it a try before it runs out.

keepersj12, Nov 23, 2008
Photo of hobbes2112
3.4/5  rDev -7.9%

As a winter ale I must admit that I didn't expect such a high hop content. As an "old ale" though this beer was on the mark.

Extremely thick head at first, but it settled eventually. Smell is big malty goodness, dark fruits and whatnot. Again, Surprisingly hoppy. Almost big IPA level hoppy on the taste too, super oily and piney. I think the hops take over the malt a little too much for this style. I liked it and am glad I've tried it while on travel but it isn't one of Southern's Tier's stronger offerings in my view.

hobbes2112, Nov 20, 2008
Photo of ommegoose
3.75/5  rDev +1.6%

Pours into a pint glass, a rather clear cherry-wood color. Head retention is not phenomenal, but the lacing is full and a white cap persists on top.

Sticky piney and spicy hops. Citrus. A little syrupy sweetness.

The hop presence is pretty hearty, with a spicy, winter warmer-like profile. Piney, but balanced by a pretty good malty heft. Some grapefruit bite, and additional citrus over time. Finishes spicy and somewhat bitter. Maltiness isn't developed all that well. Some caramel malt, which gets much stronger as the beer warms. Gets a little bread-like. I prefer more malt and less hops in this style, although I could see placing this one in a few different categories.

I would have put the abv at around 6.0-6.5% before I looked it up. Great body. Pretty full and smooth like most ST offerings. They don't overcarbonate their beers.

A solid beer at a fair price. Throwing back two or three is doable. Not sure if I would run out to buy it again. Seems a bit simple right now, maybe better with some age. Drinks best at slightly chilled. It's worth trading a little more heat for the added depth of flavor.

ommegoose, Nov 16, 2008
Photo of corey0212
4.33/5  rDev +17.3%

Pours a clear copper-chestnut color, foamy off-white head fades slowly, if at all...leaves a big collar of various sized bubbles around the inside of the glass, and plenty of clingy lacing hanging around. I get a big hit of pine on the nose, but backed by a serious roasted malt presence, some sugary sweetness...really nice aromas here. Very rich malt flavors, almost a caramelized/scorched quality to the malt, roasty, some bitter piney hops, especially on the finish. I'd call this the light end of full-bodied, with an impressive amount of lingering flavors/bitterness. I know what I'll be drinking this winter!

corey0212, Nov 16, 2008
Photo of alexgash
3.75/5  rDev +1.6%

12 oz. bottle.

Pours a deep chestnut bronze. Clean and clear, with a big, fluffy, thick, light khaki head. Great lacing. Heady hoppy aromas of pine boughs, Scotch tape, mint, and pepper blend with a solid malt mix of caramel, cookie dough, and fruit.

Taste starts with light hop bitterness and toasted malts. Caramel and fruit malt follow, but are slightly eclipsed by sharp, citric, piny, bitter hop notes. Resinous and drying all the way to the finish. Sappy pine hop bitterness lingers with some leftover cookie malt. Not bad. Medium-bodied and almost seems a little thin for the style. Not my favorite ST beer, but not bad.

alexgash, Nov 16, 2008
Photo of tburkhart
4.22/5  rDev +14.4%

Thanks to chefnash51 for this one.

Poured into a standard pint glass.

Pours a deep caramel with creamy head that clings to the glass.

Smells of deep malts, slight hops.

Tastes slightly dry and a bit of burnt caramel.

Holds true to the "Old Ale" style. Pretty good beer.

tburkhart, Nov 14, 2008
Photo of Lexluthor33
3.9/5  rDev +5.7%

Copper color with a frothy head and very good retention.
The aroma of floral hops and malts. The taste started with hops,malts,grapefruit and citrus notes. It had some herbal hints as well.
A feel of a medium body and medium carbonation. The finish was bitter.

Notes: I thought it was a decent beer. There was good balance and the alcohol was well hidden. Not for sessions,but good for the winter time.

Lexluthor33, Nov 11, 2008
Photo of wiseguy142
3.6/5  rDev -2.4%

Pours a deep, dark orange with an admirably sticky head and comparable lacing. Aroma is of sweet fruit and light citrus. Pretty mellow but it definitely let's you know that the hops are there. Taste is a step up from the moderate hop character, overflowing with citrus. Like taking a mouthful of fruit salad. No real outstanding bitterness other than a subtle tart finish. Light to medium body, which was unexpected. I didn't know much about old ales when I bought this but the description lead me to the it would be significantly more dextrinous. Overall a very pleasant beer to drink. The alcohol isn't a problem at all; it really feels like a sesions beer and it's loaded with appealing but not an overly unique or delicious hop character.

wiseguy142, Nov 10, 2008
Photo of CrellMoset
3.63/5  rDev -1.6%

Bottle courtesy of proteus93 - thanks!! Poured into an Allagash flute.

Appearance: Pours out a clear, dull orange - sort of the color of bourbon, actually - with a one-and-a-half finger off-white head of average retention. It leaves some nice fingers of lacing, blots and blobs. The head and lacing are really nice, but the color doesn't inspire too much.

Aroma: Big citrus hoppiness up front, a pretty strong punch, a pleasant surprise for the style. A few spicy flourishes as well, and a pleasant biscuity, cracker-like background.

Taste: More big citrus - orange zest, acidic notes, very much like orange juice - with a few spicy phenols that do a decent attempt at melding with the other flavors. A few sticky malt notes, caramel, faint toffee, maybe a few darker notes. Bitterness is faint, a little fainter than I'd like, as well, and almost lends a sort of soapy edge. It is expertly balanced though.

Mouthfeel: Thick, but not too thick, with a crispy, bubbly, uneven mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A good but not great beer from a great brewery. Has that definite orange juice flavor that I don't really care for in my IPAs, much less my old ales, but other than that it's a solid of not outstanding beer. Alcohol's well-hidden, too, and not of an unreasonable level. Give this one a shot, though I can't recommend a sixer.

CrellMoset, Nov 08, 2008
Photo of nasty15108
3.68/5  rDev -0.3%

Poured into a pint glass from a 12oz bottle.

A - Poured a clear brown/copper color with a head of white foam. Good lacing and carbonation.

S - Herbal, floral and with the aroma of citrus and hops.

T - floral with a good amount of citrus flavors. Finishes off bitter and slightly dry.

MF&D - Slick and slightly oily. Not what I would consider a a true Old Ale or Winter Warmer, but good nonetheless.

nasty15108, Nov 08, 2008
Photo of Proteus93
3.58/5  rDev -3%

A: A nice cherry red hue with some brownish qualities to it. A nice looking beer, though I'm a sucker for the reds, I suppose! Good, puffy and creamy head topping it off and leaving plenty of sticky lace behind.

S: Herbal hoppiness, with a little twist of lemon in there. One of those that reminds me of that other green budding plant.

T: A bitter hoppy edge with perhaps a little bit of a medicinal flavour - though this doesn't cause harm. Sweet, thin honey-like flavour. Some slightly burnt caramel flavours perk up post-finish.

M: A bigger body, with an assertive carbonation to give it character.

D: One to finish an evening, I'd say... quite a pungent hop flavour,

Proteus93, Nov 08, 2008
Photo of beernut
3.35/5  rDev -9.2%

Poured into a pint glass. pours a reddish/brown w/a thin white head that quickly evaporates, no lacing at all. Some good carbonation. Aroma is malty, sugar spices with some raisin. Taste is malty heaven with the bitterness of the hop coming to the party. Mouthfeel is crisp, drinkability should be good with this one. Overall, the cold winter nites should be perfect to handle with this beer.

beernut, Nov 07, 2008
Photo of MuenchenerKindl
3.65/5  rDev -1.1%

Poured from a 12 oz bottle to a pint glass the liquid id a dark copper with good carbonation. The head is very small tan and leaves no lace.

The smell is ok mild hops, light spiciness and caramel malt.

The taste follows a nice mild spicy hops and a good caramel malt, with a slight bit of alcohol in the back.

The mouthfeel is goo, nice carbonation and a medium body.

The drinkability is good, not a bad brew and worth a try.

Prosit, MK

MuenchenerKindl, Sep 19, 2008
Old Man (Winter Ale) from Southern Tier Brewing Company
83 out of 100 based on 1,193 ratings.