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Old Man (Winter Ale) - Southern Tier Brewing Company

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Old Man (Winter Ale)Old Man (Winter Ale)

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BA SCORE
83
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1,165 Ratings
THE BROS
84
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Ratings: 1,165
Reviews: 516
rAvg: 3.69
pDev: 13.01%
Wants: 32
Gots: 38 | FT: 0
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Southern Tier Brewing Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Jason on 12-17-2003)
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Clydesdale

District of Columbia

4.03/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a bronze-orange color. The off-white head is moderately large, with a frothy, creamy, whipped texture. Retention is solid, with a bit of sudsy lacing left along the glass.

S: A moderately firm caramel malt background is accompanied by fairly zesty citric hop aromas recalling orange oil and fruit pith. Some floral hints and mild yeasty tanginess.

T: A firm caramel malt backbone provides some medium sweetness. Fruity hints, again mostly of citrus (oranges), along with a floral bitterness. A bit of piney flavor is also present.

M: A creamy, soft mouthfeel, alongside a moderately full body. A measured, slightly alcoholic dryness into the finish.

D: This is a tasty, well-rounded winter ale from Southern Tier. Balance is very nice, although it seems to tiptoe around the line between very good and something more. Still, worth trying this winter.

Serving type: bottle

12-09-2009 04:25:43 | More by Clydesdale
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david18

New York

3.68/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Southern Tier calls this a winter ale and Beer Advocate calls it an old ale. I think the old ale is a better characterization, which for me, is a good thing. Not too much on the spices but great malt flavor with good hops and general beer intensity. Will get this again if I see it.

Serving type: on-tap

12-08-2009 22:39:43 | More by david18
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fropones

Illinois

2.93/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A - A nice copper brown with about 3 fingers of crème head that dissipates with some lacing.

S - Very hop forward aroma for an old ale. A little more than I would like. Some citrus fruit, currant, a hint of molasses.

T - Flavor again, is pretty hop forward. A good malt profile in back, maybe a hint of raisins. Some caramel malt shining through as well. All in all, this tastes more like a well balanced APA than an old ale. I find the hop bitterness too overpowering for the style and am having trouble enjoying it thoroughly, since I wasn't expecting or hoping for it being this hoppy.

M - Nice medium-full body and creamy. Low carbonation.

D - Drinks fine for an APA, but I was hoping for an old ale, and as such, it's quite sub par. The alcohol is decently masked, which keeps this score from being too low.

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2009 05:07:50 | More by fropones
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HitokiriNate85

Pennsylvania

3.85/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Very dark orange with red highlights. Off white head that's already sticking to the walls. Very clean. Really light carbonation with just a couple lazy streams evident.

S - Lots of pine and citric hops. There's malt in the background, but it kind of smells like something burned. It might honestly just be that there's a lot more piney hops than I expected.

T - Now the nose is starting to make sense. Lots of hops, but with more than enough malt to provide a big base for it. Caramel, brown sugar, and something that reminds me of a flavor that's common in some darker lagers, but I can't really think of a proper descriptor. The hops match the nose with citrus and pine flavors. Bitterness is moderate. Overall, fairly complex and nicely balanced.

MF - Not very carbonated, but there's still enough there to keep things moving nicely. Very full and...soft. It works really well.

D - This is a difficult call for me because I have no prior experience with old ales. It's really not far off from an IPA, except that it has a much bigger, complex malt bill. It's a winter seasonal and supposed to be more substantial, I think, and considering that I think it's still fairly easy to drink.

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2009 04:18:29 | More by HitokiriNate85
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Brenden

Ohio

4.03/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ever since the crashes, I take awesome notes. Trust me.

This brew is a deep medium brown with some clarity, pouring a thick and sticky white head that retains well and leaves lacing in a ring first, then a cascading sheet all the way down to the bottom of the glass.
The nose has a lot more hops aroma than I expected. Piny first, followed by a steady malt with an undertone of sweetness and just a touch of citrus lingering.
The sweetness that lingers very subtle I think would be stronger if not for the hops, which give both a bitter citrus rind flavor as well as pine. I can nearly taste the resin. Malts add a little sturdiness, character and balance with a touch of sweetness. There's an earthy, grassy note in a lingering dry finish with just a tinge of alcohol.
Thick and sturdy in the mouthfeel, this one's got a full body with a crisp nip and light to moderate carbonation.
I do wonder if I'd get a little more sweetness if I let it sit for a while, but it's a tasty one and fits the bill.

Serving type: bottle

12-07-2009 17:54:21 | More by Brenden
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homebrewhawk

Kansas

3.73/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle served in a shaker pint. Pours a clear dark amber with a finger of off white head. Caramel malt and plenty of piney hops in the aroma. Solid malt base with a little sweetness that is offset with a good amount of hop bitterness. Fairly dry finish. Medium bodied. A little bigger than a lot of the winter ales that you see. This style seems pretty common lately for winter ales, but this one stands out.

Serving type: bottle

12-07-2009 02:31:05 | More by homebrewhawk
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FickleBeast

New Jersey

4.28/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pint glass

Pours clear amber with a generous finger of fluffy head that leaves lots of lacing on the sides of the glass

Smell is surprisingly hoppy - quite refreshing actually. Citrus and peachy aroma. I didn't realize this was an Old Ale until I started to type this review.

Taste is also headlined by the hops. There is a solid, sweet malt backbone, but no malty flavors assert themselves. You could have called this an IPA and I would have believed it. Bitterness is substantial, yet not overwhelming.

The mouthfeel has a nice viscosity and hop oil consistency, the carbonation is low and stays out of the way.

Overall this is a very drinkable beer. A pleasant surprise in the mixed pack of winter beers that I picked up!

Serving type: bottle

12-06-2009 01:36:24 | More by FickleBeast
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Brad007

Vermont

3.98/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark red color with a two-finger head into my fluted tulip. Good presentation so far. Leaves lacing on edges of glass.

Aroma is full of grassy hops with a hint of malt underneath. Certainly is hop-orientated here.

Taste is once again full of grassy hops with mildly-sweet malt and a touch of alcohol underneath. Slightly chewy.

Mouthfeel is full of lingering grassy hops and sweet malt along with alcohol warmth. Carbonation feels just right.

A decent example of the style that focuses more on hops than expected. Could have more body but otherwise, good.

Serving type: bottle

12-05-2009 00:42:48 | More by Brad007
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billab914

Virginia

3.9/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Southern Tier tulip glass. Poured a dark amber and slightly orange in color. Head settled to a thin ring after pouring with very nice lacing as I drank it.

Aroma is sweet with some notes of caramel malts and some other fruit flavors in there. Taste is surprisingly hoppy, I get a lot of the citrusness, and some pine from the hops. There is some sweet maltiness going on as well but this is definitely a hoppy beer.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and moderate carbonation. Drinkability is very good, I really like this one and could drink a few of these easily. I'm not a big fan of the heavily spiced winter ales and this one being a nice hoppy slightly darker ale is really enjoyable for me.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2009 01:59:57 | More by billab914
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brownbeer

Missouri

3.53/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear bronze color.

More hop forward on the nose than expected. Smells like a piney christmas tree dipped in caramel malt.

The taste is also leaning heavily toward the hops, with pepper and pine, and a malty strong ale backing.

Pretty middle of the road for me. Hop it and they shall come.

Serving type: bottle

12-03-2009 03:08:04 | More by brownbeer
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Viggo

Ontario (Canada)

3.5/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle, picked up in Buffalo.

Pours a mostly clear dark amber/orange, thin off white head forms, settles to a thin ring around the glass and a wispy layer, a few streaks of lace are left on the glass.

Smell is weird, big roasted barley aroma, some caramel, brown sugar, a bit of chocolate, nutty, very malty but has this weird piney hop aroma underneath that throws me off a bit, quite rich though.

Taste is similar, sweet up front, caramel, nuts, brown sugar, with a heavy roasted middle, very grainy and sweet sweet through the middle, pine hops, a bit herbal in the finish, kind of an anomaly.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium carbonation. Goes down pretty easy and isn't overly sweet. Pretty interesting but that pine character is a little strange.

Serving type: bottle

12-03-2009 00:33:43 | More by Viggo
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outdoorbrewer

New Jersey

4/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer poured lively to create a 3/4 inch foamy head that lasted awhile to cover the clear amber liquid of soft carbonation. Complex aroma hints of malty-sweet/spicy some esters as well as alcohol. First sip reveals roasted grains giving way to a nutty caramel flavor as the bitterness flows throughout. This beer has a pleasant aroma and clean taste while having some qualities of a Belgian dubbel. I'll try to age some to see if this winter warmer develops some age related characteristics.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2009 02:13:14 | More by outdoorbrewer
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kegger22

Michigan

3.63/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Old Man was a very deep amber/brown with a decent head that didn't last long. A light citrus for an aroma, I couldn't discern any malt. This was either the lightest or "newest" old ale I have had. It tasted mostly citrus hops, just a little bit of malt and a bitter after taste. The feel was medium bodied with sufficient carbonation. Drinkability only fair. Not bad, but not as bold or malty as the other old beers I have sampled.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2009 22:41:49 | More by kegger22
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CharlatanSin

Connecticut

3.95/5  rDev +7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into my prized Hold Steady pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a clear copper, with lots of tiny bubbles running quickly to the surface. Despite the bubbles, not much head to speak of, though what little there was stuck around and laced nicely.

Smell: The nose is very sweet and malty. There's a definite candy-like quality with this one. Reminded me of twizzlers. No discernible spices, which surprised me, given this is a winter ale.

Taste: Way more hops than I'd expected from the smell. Hops come first, then the sweetness. The sweet notes are even more difficult to pinpoint than in the smell, and they battle it out very nicely with the hops. This epic battle leads to a tremendous aftertaste. I think there's some chocolate in there? Caramel?

Mouthfeel: Good sturdy body, creamy and smooth with a good amount of carbonation. Pleasant.

Drinkability/Overall: Nothing like I had expected from a winter ale. Still, this beer is extremely flavorful and complicated. Seemed like I was picking up different sweet tastes with different sips. I'd have it again, and I'd have it for desert.

Serving type: bottle

11-23-2009 16:07:15 | More by CharlatanSin
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TopherRI

Rhode Island

3.1/5  rDev -16%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I ahve come to expect much more from southern tier. the old man winter ale tasted like nothing more than an ipa with the possibility of some seasonal spices. definitely the least impressive product to bear the souther tier name. I suppose it is difficult to follow the PumKing up with any other seasonal.

Serving type: bottle

11-22-2009 22:15:51 | More by TopherRI
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hdofu

Maryland

3.6/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours light brownish with a thin white head. Taste is malty with a bit of hoppy. Smell is sort of spicy. Mouthfeel is medium, crisp with a bunch of suds. Drinkability is ok, probably not my style but it isn't bad. reminds me a bit too much of lager.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2009 03:12:03 | More by hdofu
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mrmanning

Ontario (Canada)

3.5/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle- Unleashes a deep and murky mahogany from the bottle. Head is limited to about half an inch and steps back to the sidelines. Spicy (nutmeg, cinnamon), malty nose with hints of cognac and wood. Spiced sweet malts blend with woody , earthy flavours, and lead to a slightly bitter and hoppy, warming alcoholic finish. This one is meant for sipping, and as such, is quite enjoyable. Quite good.

Serving type: bottle

11-12-2009 16:26:10 | More by mrmanning
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hosehead83

Ohio

4/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a twelve ounce bottle into a standard pint glass
Dark copper/ruby in color, with a decent head of foam
Aroma-Roasted malt, caramel, some hop notes
Taste-Malt and spices, biscuit, pine and spruce notes-a hop backbone, with a spicy, orange rind bitter finish.
Overall, not a bad winter ale offering

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2009 12:54:38 | More by hosehead83
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david131

California

3.83/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- A clear, crisp, orange liquid with a creamy bone white head that has some decent retention and leaves some nice lacing.

S- Fruity with hints of citrus and melon, soap, and some oats. Pretty unique smelling, especially for the style.

T- Just like the aroma with all the flavors turned up. There is a definite sweetness that helps to hide the alcohol.

M- There is a definite dryness to this at the end. Overall, it is smooth.

D- A very unique beer that is either not an old ale, or just is a strange take on it. It drinks nicely- probably due to the sweetness that compliments the hoppiness nicely.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2009 05:00:30 | More by david131
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thebeerdoctor

Ohio

4.45/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pour into a classic Libby ale glass, this mahogany coloured ale is unique amongst winter/holiday offerings, in that it neither succumbs to a total malt presentation, nor does it go off in the IPA direction of say, winter season offerings from Sierra Nevada or Mendocino Brewing.
What is presented here is a very delicious recipe that keeps you guessing as to which flavor notes you can detect. Deep and smooth, with a very complex finish. An original tasty recipe.

Serving type: bottle

11-05-2009 04:12:33 | More by thebeerdoctor
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Stunner97

New Jersey

3.75/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance- dark brown to copper in color, thick white head foams up quickly, very small amount of bubbles, nice look

Smell- yeast, sugar, malts, caramel, slight spice to it, unique smell a bit,

Taste- alot of malts up front with a firm hop kick on the back end, a bit of cinnamon and spice are definitely noticeable, a very unique flavored beer, the finish is a bit shore but intriguing, has a very nice cinnamon presence to it but something in the flavor profile reminds me of sugar and sweetness I have tasted in certain belgian beers, but still comes through with a uncommon kick of hops to balance it out,

Mouthfeel- medium bodied with a good creaminess to it,

Drinkabilty- I have to say that this flavor and beer did grow on me as I continued drinking it, its a very unique flavor profile for certain, but its very nicely balanced between being very malty and being hop balanced, for a winter beer this is one I kind of liked and would have to visit again, the alcohol is very well hidden to the point of not noticing it at all, an intriguing beer I will try again

Serving type: bottle

11-04-2009 13:05:13 | More by Stunner97
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wyattshotmaker

Ohio

3.9/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

this beer is all over the place but pulls it all together somehow.

poured into a snifter,nice ruby color with a hint of brown.decent lacing.

nose is kinda grainy,slight astringency,citrusy,bit of caramel.slight bit of chocolate,it'd weird but strangely appealing.

bit of caramel,slightly sweet.im just having a hard time pinning down the flavors of this beer.big sweetness upfront with caramel notes,bit of dryness in the middle with some grainy flavor.finishes with some coffee-like acridity.

really an interesting beer. really nice drinkability, moderate carbonation and medium bodied.would pair well with alot of roasted foods.

Serving type: bottle

11-04-2009 04:34:51 | More by wyattshotmaker
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bbeane

Pennsylvania

3.6/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Poured into a snifter... semi agressive pour leaves a very light head that mostly disappears. Beer is a dark brown color, or a brilliant ruby color when held up to light. Appears to be somewhat active... leaves some spotted lacing

S- Not sure I can pinpoint what all I'm smelling, but its good. Smells of hops, citrus, malt, maybe cinnamon

T- Starts out with a balanced malt and hop taste, followed by a more pronounced hop finish. No taste of alcohol

M- Watery, medium bodied, lightly carbonated

D- Drinkable, but definately my favorite winter brew

CHEERS!!

Serving type: bottle

11-03-2009 03:41:20 | More by bbeane
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mikey711

New Jersey

3.6/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Burnt orange with a thin layer of spider webbing foam. Head retention is above average.

S: Malty caramel sweetness and a bit of fruity/floral hops.

T: Much hoppier than most old ales with a smooth caramel and toffee sweet finish

M: Full bodied. Slightly dry, but no booze.

D: I wouldnt call it sessionable, but it is deceptive because the abv is very well hidden

Serving type: bottle

11-02-2009 01:31:26 | More by mikey711
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Risser09

Pennsylvania

3.45/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pilsner - fridge - 2009

Appearance: Transparent copper orange with lots of carbonation. A cream colored, 1" head develops. Great retention and lots of foamy lace.

Smell: Bitter hop aroma and caramel malt. Pine, citrus, toffee that is sweet overall.

Taste: Quite bitter right off the bat more so than other old ales. Piney hop resins are tasty and there is an underlying caramel malt flavor. Rich and sweet in flavor.

Mouthfeel: Very bitter for an old ale with sharp carbonation and a medium body. A little bit of alcohol burn.

Drinkability: Probably the best old ale I've ever had, because of the hop profile. This is a tasty beer that I would go for again.

Serving type: bottle

09-25-2009 12:04:43 | More by Risser09
Old Man (Winter Ale) from Southern Tier Brewing Company
83 out of 100 based on 1,165 ratings.