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2X Stout - Southern Tier Brewing Company

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390 Reviews
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Reviews: 390
Hads: 2,052
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 10.55%
Wants: 58
Gots: 300 | FT: 3
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Southern Tier Brewing Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Morey on 12-18-2011

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Photo of Edward19
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at the Limp Lizard in Liverpool, NY. The beer had a great head and awesome mouthfeel. I would definitley get this beer again. I will say as the beer warmed up the flavor was much better. So i would recommend drinking this at room temperature. (253 characters)

Photo of PaulyB83
3.44/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A- Dark coffee

S- Sweet coffee

T- Burnt coffee with edge of sweetness

M- Milky, lactose

O- Not very impressed with this one, expected more from what the aroma gave me. Didn't care for the over powering burnt coffee taste. All other aspects of this were good though. (270 characters)

Photo of BeerGog89
3.45/5  rDev -9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Age: 03/19/12
First Impression: Bitter sweet aroma upon opening of bottle.

Appearance: Dark black body with a light mocha head, body allows no light through. 4.0, head was small but had a nice fluffy air to it.

Smell: same bitter sweet aroma as upon opening smells of brown sugar. Not as strong as I personally prefer but still not bad.

Taste: Not bad...slightly watery but the flavor is very much there. More sweet than bitter. Beautiful combination of the sweet and the bitter. Great blend of hops and malts.

Mouthfeel: Perfect amount of carbonation for the flavor, not too heavy of a feel,just enough of a presence to be a stout...about mid range I would say...not to strong not too weak...

Overall: This is a fairly good stout...for those who don't like it too strong or too weak this is a beer for all. Finds a perfect middle ground among stouts. I will definitely be having this beer again and will recommend it strongly to friends. (945 characters)

Photo of breakingbland
3.47/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

This beer pours with a one-finger head that dissipated fairly quickly. The color is a virtually opaque brown. The aroma was not outstanding: some toasty notes but not as marked as expected. The taste did not disappoint in delivering a rich, toasty chocolate deepness. This beer has a strong malty sweet character with an underplayed hoppiness that accentuates toward the end. The characteristics of the sweetness and hopiness are characteristic of this style. But the sweetness may be overplayed. The carbonation was at a medium level, and the body was full -- almost syrupy. Overall, I would have this beer again, even though I prefer a somewhat less sweet version of this style. (680 characters)

Photo of JWU
3.47/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle poured into a snifter

A- looks like coffee, with a fizzy an head that dissipates quickly. No lacing.

S- I pickup a lot of the lactose on the smell, with a mild mocha character.

T- Starts with a hit of lactose sweetness, with a bit of a coffee bitterness. There's a hop bite mid sip as well. Transitions into a mild mocha flavor before a big lactose/sugary sweetness on the finish.

M- Thin for what a double stout should be, with a medium carbonation. oddly dry and sweet at the same time on the finish.

O- I love Southern Tier, but this isn't their finest effort.
Needs more roasty-ness and a heavier dose of dark chocolate for my liking. (657 characters)

Photo of greenmtn1111
3.48/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 2/13/2013. Poured into a glass goblet.

Flat black color with nice, dark-tan foamy head. Ok retention and pretty good lacing on the glass. There’s not much in the aroma, save for a little maltiness and some sweet lactose. The beer is quite sweet with bitter malts and bittersweet chocolate as well. It has a very nice roasty flavor that pairs well with the sweetness from the lactose. The best part is it’s mouthfeel - nice and thick on the palate, deliciously creamy and smooth. At the end the hops become more evident and they complement the sweetness with a nice bitterness. There’s not a lot of depth or “oomph” in the flavors, but it’s a very drinkable milk stout. (689 characters)

Photo of sommersb
3.48/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Tasted On: 03-20-2013
Freshness: Not indicated
Packaging: 12 oz. brown bottle, pry-cap
Glassware: Tulip pint
Purchased: Single from Frugal MacDoogal, Nashville

A: Black and opaque color, with a finger's worth of tan head. Retention of the head is fair and lacing is good.

S: Aromas have chocolate malts and a light coffee-like roasted smell. Some earthy hops as well.

T: Tastes of bittersweet chocolate and roasted coffee grains. Also has some woody/earthy hop bitterness. It's not as sweet as other milk stouts, which kind of surprises me since everyone says how sweet ST beers are. Has some alcohol warmth.

M: Carbonation is on the low end and the body is medium. I don't get the creaminess you'd expect from a milk stout. Finishes dry and has chocolate aftertastes as well as bitterness of toasted grain.

O: Overall a good beer, but seems to miss the marks of a sweet/milk stout. Seems closer to an American stout or perhaps an RIS to me. (946 characters)

Photo of RWLawman
3.48/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Thin, almost non-existent head. Black as night in terms of color.

S - Mostly chocolate with some hints of coffee and roast.

T - I tasted more roasted malts and bitter chocolate than anything. There was some sweetness in there, but I didn't pick up on it as much as others have in previous reviews. Still a tasty stout, though. The hops are definitely present in this one, and I think their bitterness may have overpowered the sweet aspect a little.

M - Pretty smooth, for the most part. Filling as well. I think that this aspect of this beer would improve hand-over-fist in a nitro-tap.

O - When I drink a milk stout, I expect creaminess, sweet, and a lot of chocolate. This one didn't deliver quite as much on the creamy side as I would've liked. Left hand milk stout, to me, is the comparative piece for a solid milk stout, and I think this beer falls short of LHMS. Still a well-done stout though, and I highly recommend it. (935 characters)

Photo of Pahn
3.48/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into Duvel tulip.

Appearance: Free pour yields a 3/4 inch frothy light tan head that dissipates quickly, leaving a tight semicircle of lacing. Pours black with brown highlights. Leaves several thin lacing arches.

Smell: Not much aroma. Some malty sweetness, maybe some vaguely Willamette-esque hops. With time, a nice sweet coffee note emerges. Remains too muted, but the character of the aroma is nice.

Taste: Sweet up front with some roasted malt, then a long roasted malt aftertaste follows the dry finish. Further sips reveal some coffee and cola flavors up front, with the malty sweetness blended with husky roasted malt staying strong. Dry, roasted malt dominated finish remains satisfying.

Repeated the phrase 'roasted malt' four times in the last paragraph--appropriately, really, since that's the main story here.

Mouthfeel: Full side of medium bodied. Moderate carbonation. Great dry finish as mentioned above (keeps the beer at a 3.0). Lactose seems to only be adding sweetness; this beer could use some more body and creaminess. Bit watery. Especially disappointing for a style defined by its creamy mouthfeel.

Overall: Honestly, the dry finish, inoffensive sweetness, and prominent roasted malt flavor makes this a satisfying stout fix. It's nothing spectacular, but if someone showed up at a party with a 6pack, I'd be happy to have one. (1,370 characters)

Photo of angrybabboon
3.49/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Consumed 2/20/13

Appearance: Dark, dark brown - clarity around the edges - tiny, borderline nonexistent head - manages to leave some spots of lacing, though

Smell: Roasty sugar - caramel, sugar, and lactose sugar - roasty coffee (with cream) - dark chocolate and milk chocolate - typical Southern Tier level of sweetness, but it seems to work here - some lightly burnt, chocolate malts

Taste: Somewhat like a milky mocha - roasty coffee, with some light roasty bitterness - sweet, with caramel, sugar, and lactose sugar - somewhat creamy (the lactose) - some dark chocolate, but mostly milk chocolate - some dark fruit as well

Mouthfeel: Medium body, minimal carbonation, smooth, sweet finish

Overall: Very good, could use a better name

This is a good milk stout. Nothing about it screams "2X" in any way, but I guess I felt the same way about Southern Tier 2XIPA. It's sweet, which should be expected, and the 12oz format works for this reason. Worth a try. (964 characters)

Photo of Andrew61923
3.49/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into my Ballast Point shaker pint after a long day. A buddy was telling me how much he enjoyed this, so I'm looking forward to giving it a shot.

A: Very dark, almost black with just a bit of brown tinge on the edges of the glass. Very light tan head, just over one finger after a fairly aggressive pour. A great start...looks damn good.

S: Booze. A little malt. A pretty muted nose and not really what I was expecting. Disappointing.

T: Sweet up front with a good amount of cocoa in there. Odd metallic aftertaste that I'm not a big fan of. Not as much booze as I expected after the smell. Thankfully the metallic taste fades as the beer warms up and there's a heightening of the lactose sugar over time. In other words, let it warm up a bit.

M: Good amount of carbonation and pretty smooth at the end. Very creamy feel...nice.

O: I had high expectations for this after my friend's recommendation. Though I wasn't turned off by it, the beer didn't quite do it for me as much as I'd hoped it would. B-/C+. (1,016 characters)

Photo of guityler83
3.49/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

A: Motor oil black with no head. No light shines through when held up to a light. swirling the beer in a tulip glass results in a small amount of cocoa colored lacing.

S: Milk chocolate with some burnt, roastyness. solvent-like alcohol notes in the background. sweetness too.

T: Chocoolate Milk in beer form is my first impression. The lactose adds a vanilla like sweetness to the dark chocolate/roasted malts that makes the whole thing meld beautifully. As it warms up, the flavors get more complex and the bitterness is more apparent yet still a bootnote.

M: Slick and oily with a big chewy body. a chalkyness lingers after a few sips. low carbination

O: In a word full of great stouts 2X falls somewhere in the middle. (727 characters)

Photo of Karibourgeois
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%

Black pour with a tan one-finger head. Aroma of sweet chocolate and roasted malt. Creamy and sweet flavor with a light roasted malt, vanilla and milk chocolate flavors upfront. Also has a slight bitter coffee/espresso flavor on the backend. Medium bodied. (255 characters)

Photo of Hojaminbag
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Souther Tier 2X Stout is thick and dark looking, with a slim brown head. The head retention is pretty good, but there isn't really any lacing left behind.

The aroma has a sweet, creamy scent to it, as well as black malt and anise.

The flavor has a lot of black patent malt and a touch of roast. Baker's chocolate comes through as well. The creamy-milk-like flavor is pronounced and it's probably the defining characteristic of the the beer. There is also a good dose of anise, which I typically don't love, but I will admit it works in this one. Pretty boozy.

Full, adequately carbonated, but pretty hot.

2X sout is an OK milk stout, but it's too big and too hot for me, especially considering the actual ABV isn't huge. I tend to think of milk stouts as being smooth and light on the alcohol flavors, which I like. I'm guessing that just isn't what Southern Tier was going for here, and it reminds of one of their big flavored stouts without a ton of sweetness. It's worth a try if you're interested in a big milk stout (which Southern Tier does a lot of, and does them pretty well). (1,088 characters)

Photo of RandomExile
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: opaque, pure black, very little head
S: roasted coffee, savory, toffee
T: roasted coffee, toffee, bacon, savory, citrus hints
M: full-bodied, smooth
O: Not a beer you should finish with, by any stretch, but if you want to begin your evening, or perhaps even have only a single beer, this is a warm, encompassing beer you will not regret. (340 characters)

Photo of stckhndlr
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Very dark almost black. Held to the light it reveals a dark ruby color. Not much head that is to be expected from a milk stout.

S- light milk chocolate notes and a rounded caramel flavor.

T- a bitter sweetness of chocolate. It has a great roasted malt finish. Just enough bitterness to really round out the flavor. Even hints of coffee in at the very end of the finish.

M- surprising amount of body for a milk stout. Actually has a medium bod with a good creamy feel.

O- overall this turned out to be an enjoyable beer. Made for a good better than average beer that I will be happy to order again. (603 characters)

Photo of facundoCNB
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - dark brown with a nice amount of fizzy brown head

S - sweet, malty, oats, chocolate

T - smokey, oats, oak flavor, floral hops, sweet malt

M - smooth and creamy, goes down nice and easy but leaves a sweet grape-ish taste afterwards

O - overall this is a decent stout. not too heavy but heavy enough! (306 characters)

Photo of Jeffo
3.52/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Got this at Premiere Gourmet in Amherst, NY.

From a bottle into a snifter
Date of Birth: 6 March 2012
Double Milk Stout

APPEARANCE: Pours out clear brown and makes only a miniscule light tan head that turns into a faint wisp and ring rather fast. Clear black body and no carbonation evident. A ring and light wisp remain until the end and lots of dots of lacing stick to the sides of the glass.

SMELL: Roasted malts, espresso and roasted coffee beans, and lots of vanilla sweet cream on the nose. Caramel notes and some lactose sugar for sure. Decent, but a little sweet cream heavy.

TASTE: Roasted malts, caramel sweetness, and some espresso coffee flavors up front, with flavors of sweet vanilla cream at the swallow. Medium but lingering aftertaste of espresso, lactose sweetness, vanilla, and bitter, roasted coffee beans. Flavorful and nice.

PALATE: Slightly fuller body and medium levels of carbonation. Enough weight on this one. Creamy on the palate, goes down smooth and finishes quite mouth-coating. Coats the roof of your mouth. Pretty big and creamy feel on this one.

OVERALL: A solid beer, but I wouldn't consider this anything special, especially after trying Southern Tier's imperial stout lineup. Good beer with some nice flavor, but I'd reach for their bigger stouts ten times out of ten. (1,316 characters)

Photo of Treyliff
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Pours nearly pitch black with a small fizzy dark tan head that quickly dissapears completely, leaving no lace or retention.

S- sugary sweet chocolate syrup, light roasted character, touch of coffe, lightly herbal and woodsy

T- roasted malty notes give way to a sweet & sugary chocolate flavor, some herbal hop notes on tepee finish with just a touch of coffee on a sweet finish

M- medium-bodied, slightly chewy mouthfeel with low carbonation and a creamy finish, alcohol warmth on the end

O- this one was pretty pretty good, but hard to live up to their blackwater series beers. Worth a try, but probably won't buy again. (630 characters)

Photo of Morey
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle with "12/12/11" stamped towards the bottom of the bottle. 5 days old! This is a Double Milk Stout brewed with lactose sugars.

Poured black in color. You can see some brown towards the top of the beer if you hold it up to a bright enough light. Head is cream colored and stood about a finger or so tall following a medium pour. Has settled to nothing more than a ring of foam around the inside of the glass.

Pretty tame nose on this one. A little bit of sweetness and and roasted malts, but it's pretty darn clean.

Taste is smooth and creamy up front. The sweetness shows itself next, accompanied by some mild roasty notes and a subtle bitterness. The sweet flavor from the lactose lingers on in the finish.

Medium bodied (but the mouthfeel seems to fade on the back end) with a fairly low carbonation.

A good Milk Stout overall, but the sweetness is a bit much after a while.

Morey's Bottom Line: Good, but I had higher hopes for this one. Pretty tame, and just a little too sweet. I couldn't drink too many in a row. (1,035 characters)

Photo of DefenCorps
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle, $1.99 from the Village Pump. Bottled 8th Feb 2012.

Pouring a very dark brown/almost black with dark brown highlights, there's a dense, light brown head with rather excellent retention and lacing. The nose has a pretty nice lactose character to go with ~50% cocoa milk chocolate, cappuccino and some caramel and brown sugar. A little toffee is perceptible as well. A touch of earthy hops rounds out the nose.

The palate opens with an enjoyable, creamy, chocolate flavor that's surprisingly bold. The sweetness of the malt bill makes this taste closer to a 35-40% cocoa chocolate compared to the nose. Some sweet coffee flavor is present as well. All told, a little sweeter than it needs to be with the caramel/sugar notes dominating the lactose flavor, that's also present. A very smooth roasted malt flavor is present, lending a mild bitterness in an attempt to balance the sweetness. Lactose lingers on the finish, leaving sweetness, a little bitterness and some coffee. Medium in body with a moderate carbonation, this feels quite nice on the palate. Ultimately, it could use a little bit more roasted malt flavor to balance the sweetness. Recommended. (1,164 characters)

Photo of artoolemomo
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours up a good amount of head which looks to have really good retention. The head is a creamy, medium beige while the body is an opaque, dark chocolate black. Some lacing, which tends toward sheeting, has already been left.

Nose- Curiously I get more from the standing glass than the bottle. The bottle gives vague notes of chocolate, cocoa, and cream while the glass shows these notes with more definition. Swirling adds a little bit more depth to the aroma, perhaps a little coffee, a stronger chocolate. Fairly subtle overall.

Taste- Starts off with a slight touch of mint that almost tends to anise. Turns to a fairly bitter chocolate that has more defined coffee than is expressed on the nose. Some woody bitterness from the hops which even expresses a little bit of earwax. Not exactly what you want from a milk stout but not too big of a distraction. Definitely needs more lactose and cream. Some sourness from the roasted malts. I wouldn't classify them as flaws but there are really too many notes which don't benefit a milk stout. While it's not a bad beer, it doesn't seem to be one. If I were drinking this blind, I would consider it a coffee/chocolate stout. Almost nothing about it says milk stout to me, other than the nose. Some of the more nagging aspects start mellow to make for a fairly decent stout. Pretty much above average.

Mouthfeel- A little bit more than medium bodied. A little too much carbonation for the style. Some grittiness when I would prefer to be rich and creamy.

Drinkability- As time passes, it becomes more and more drinkable. I could see this being a lot more enjoyable on nitro. 2.50 a bottle is an okay price but not one I would pay again.

Overall- Above average but a little bit of a letdown for me. This is a style I really enjoy and this just didn't represent the style. I would try this if you try it with the knowledge that it won't be milk stout you crave. It's an okay stout but it's not a milk stout. (1,974 characters)

Photo of TheSSG
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a HUGE, dense, tan head with nice lacing. Starts with toasted malt, and moves into a nice floral hop aroma, with a touch of coffee-like acidity/roastedness. Black color. Starts with a DEEP, rich, toasted malt with a touch of acidity. In the middle, it moves into a nice medium bitterness, which turns into a touch of grapefruit hop flavor. Finish brings back the toasted malt.

If this were a bit thicker in the mouthfeel and less hoppy, it would be stunning. (465 characters)

Photo of beesy
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a standard pint glass.

A - poured a dark brown, cola appearance, with a finger of medium brown head that dissipated fairly quickly.

S - a fair amout of smokey/acrid notes with some yeast profiles coming though

T - roast and dark chocolate notes up front with a somewhat fruity yeast profile and a smokey/acrid flavor lingering on my palate. A firm bitterness lingers as well.

M - somewhat thin - not quite enough here to support the flavor

D - somewhat low. Lots of flavors that don't meld together the best paired with too much smoke/acrid flavors.

Overall, not a bad beer, but some room for improvement. Inceasing the mouthfeel, reducing the smoke/acrid notes and upping the lactose would improve this one. I was let down a little, but had high expectations the quality of this would mirror something like Choklat or Mocha, but alas, it does not. (885 characters)

Photo of mdcrouser
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

In truth, this beer has been hiding in the beer fridge since last spring, awaiting a cold winter night like tonight. It pours thick, black, like the sky it reflects, with a thin ring at the edge, much like tonight's crescent moon.

Aromatic like cold black coffee and dark chocolate, roasty and filling the entire nose with big smells. It is not though a head-filler, which I'd expect from a double.

Thick and slightly syrupy, with puffs of smoke, charcoal, chocolate and coffee - the charcoal comes through a little thick though, overwhelming some of the other tasty characteristics.

Percolating and carbonated on the tongue, enough to help round out the roastiness.

It's fine to drink - warming in the winter months. Just not as enjoyable as others I've enjoyably enjoyed in the past. (793 characters)

2X Stout from Southern Tier Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 390 ratings.