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2X Stout - Southern Tier Brewing Company

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389 Reviews
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Reviews: 389
Hads: 2,049
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 10.55%
Wants: 57
Gots: 297 | FT: 3
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Southern Tier Brewing Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Morey on 12-18-2011

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Photo of jtierney89
1.65/5  rDev -56.5%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a deep deep ruby color with a very tiny thin coffee colored head. Smells mostly of charcoal and leather with hints of roasted barley. Taste is about the same with a medium body, some chocolate and coffee notes but they're barely detectable. Very disappointing to be honest. Drinkable but forgetable. No lactose like sweetness is to speak of. Southern tier makes some amazing stouts, wonder why this one didnt live up?

Some detectable alcohol on the swallow. Wouldnt know it was a milk stout at all by tasting it. (519 characters)

Photo of pants678
2.11/5  rDev -44.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Black with a thin off-white head.

Very slightly milky nose.

Chocolate hardly comes through and the hops are too prevalent. Narwhal gets by with meaner hops because it's rich, this is far from. Even when the lactose kicks in it's still a tame bore of a stout.

Too carbonated for the style. Stain is mild. (306 characters)

Photo of corby112
2.26/5  rDev -40.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Draft at The Pour House in Westmont, NJ.

Pours pitch black and completely opaque with a half finger light beige head that quickly settles into a thin, lasting ring.  Sporadic spots of lacing left behind.

Roasted malt aroma that smells slightly burnt.  I was expecting it to be sweeter smelling but its almost acrid. Lots of dark chocolate along with some roasted coffee. Some lactic cream and sweeter chcolate but the robust roastiness overpowers things.

Tastes very similar to the aroma.  Thinner than expected with lots of overly roasted burnt malt flavor.  Overpowering dark chocolate along with burnt coffee and smoke with hardly any sweetness for balance.  Very faint lactic cream presence with a touch of  lighter, sweeter chcolate but again the overly roasted dark chocolate notes overpower everything.  Lingering dry acrid finish.  Pretty disappointing coming from a brewery that usually nails dessert beers. (930 characters)

Photo of Rifugium
2.53/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

First had: on tap at Teresa's, Wayne, PA

I find Southern Tier beers to be very hit or miss, and this one is definitely a miss. Poured a dark mostly-black color with a thin, wispy off-white head that dissipated almost completely; no real lacing to speak of. Not much on the aroma, some roasty malts, touch of cocoa. Taste was really very bland and one-dimensional, with simple dark roasted malts, and distant notes of cocoa and mild hops; tannin astringency abounds; dry finish with no flavor lingering. Thin and watery, light-bodied for the style, and really nothing here that would inspire me to order the beer again. (619 characters)

Photo of ZachKelly
2.57/5  rDev -32.2%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

This was far too sweet for me, but pretty typical of the style. Not a big fan of Milk Stouts. This one was had too thin of a mouthfeel and the aroma was almost non existent. (173 characters)

Photo of Edwaka01
2.58/5  rDev -31.9%
look: 5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from bottle into nonic pint

A - Coffee black, 2 finger dark khaki head receded quickly leaving thin layer of tiny bubbles on top.

S - Woof. Sour. I know it's a milk stout, but too much lactose sourness for me. Hints of coffee and chocolate behind that forward sourness.

T - Still a bit sour, but not as intense as the aroma. Malty with a bit of cocoa, and WHAM, hit in the teeth with a lead pipe. Metallic finish is bold. Not sure what's going on here.

M - Nice full bodied beer, really smooth, but metal finish ruins all mouth experiences for me. Rated a 4 to not let taste take away from body.

O - I won't buy this one again. I head good things, so maybe this was a bad bottle? If I run into it at a bar I may ask for a swig to give it another chance, and if someone has a free one for me I'd give it an honest mulligan but boy was this glass bad. (861 characters)

Photo of ThisWangsChung
2.61/5  rDev -31.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Re-review. 12 oz bottle into a teku.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown color. The head is a finger high and tan in shade. Steady to fade away, its retention isn't the best. Tiny bits of lacing stick to the glass. (3.5)

Smell: Somewhat indistinct. While I pick up some lactose notes, they're pretty light - as are the chocolate and roast notes. There are some additional fruit esters that add a little bit to it, if nothing else. This one isn't swaying me one way or the other. (3)

Taste: This one tastes odd, kind of like how I remembered. It starts off with some lactose sweetness, before transitioning into an underwhelming mixture of piny hops, caramel, and generic charred bitterness. No chocolate, no coffee, no roasted bread, just a whole bunch of char. And as it warms up, the generic char becomes worse. This is one of the few stouts that (to me) tastes like it has too much crystal malt. As we know, my opinion of crystal malt is that I don't like it too much in an IPA or pale ale, but in a stout/porter/brown ale, I'm perfectly fine with it. Here, though, it's annoying. And frankly, ruins the beer. (2.25)

Mouthfeel: The feel manages to be both sweet AND thin - by the way, that's not a good combo. A touch of astringency and a slightly larger touch of bitterness helps it go down somewhat easily, if nothing else. Carbonation is moderate to slightly low. (2.75)

Overall: I still don't like this one very much. It simply has too much burnished caramel and not enough roast. All in all, a rare blemish on Southern Tier's otherwise rock-solid regular lineup. (2.5)

2.61/5: 2x crystal malt isn't a good thing (1,625 characters)

Photo of deaconoflove
2.63/5  rDev -30.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Nice very dark, with minimal head. Looks good.
Not much aroma other than chocolate milk. Very milky aroma.
Taste is a very bland chocolate milk, heavy on the milk. It seems like mild muddle of milk and chocolate. It brings back (very bad) memories of afternoon milk snack in elementary school in the late 50's. (Qualifier: I don't like or drink milk unless it has cereal in it.) This beer isn't bad, but it comes close enough for me. I'll pass. (444 characters)

Photo of Guden
2.68/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A- black and opaque with a small tan head that stays around.

S- Sweet milk chocolate, coffee and a touch of earth. There's also a but of resins hop aroma that doesn't fit.

T/M- very smooth and creamy but the favors don't work. Moderately roasty flavors on the front end lead to a middle which is a confused mess of extreme sweetness and moderately strong bitterness, with the bitterness winning out and lasting long after the finish.

O/D- this is the type of beer where one aspect ruins all the positives. The hop bitterness of this is not only out of style but it's off putting and clashes with the sweet, chocolate and toast characteristics. Not something Id get again. (674 characters)

Photo of aranheaney
2.68/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Purchased at Wegmans in Henrietta, poured from a 12 oz bottle into a DFH snifter

A-the best of the categories for this total miss from a really good Western NY Brewery

S-off, just off

T-again, don't know if my taster was off, but this is a mess

M-again yuck

O-total bad, maybe it was me, but complete abberration (317 characters)

Photo of VelvetExtract
2.73/5  rDev -28%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A-Pours quite dark but not very thick in body. Moderate light penetration. Head is smaller and bubbly but is quite light in color. Small head retains well and does a pretty good job painting the glass with lace.

S-Interesting aroma. Not very heavy but it brings for aromas of lactose and some smokiness. Sweeter chocolate and subtle coffee. Light hops. Definitely milky.

T-Flavor has a strange, lingering, coppery-metallic twang that almost takes over the entire flavor. Made me wince a bit. Sweetness and lactose behind the off-putting metallic flavor. Really not digging the flavor here. Tastes like its been sitting in a can for 2 years. Maybe its the lactose? Who knows.

M-Medium body. Moderate carbonation. Lighter than expected.

O/D- God, the metallic taste won't leave. My palate refuses to adjust to it. Really surprised to dislike this beer as much as I do. I love their 2X IPA, but this 2X bothers me. Makes me glad to have only purchased a single. I rarely, rarely drain-pour, but this one is close. (1,014 characters)

Photo of BB1313
2.75/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle poured into a snifter. Pours dark black with brown hues; head doesn't really stick around and there's not too much lacing and retention to speak of. The aromas are kind of fain and subtle. There are hints of milk chocolate and malts, but once again it's not pungent. I'm actually even less impressed with the flavors. Something is off. This one leaves a very bitter and unpleasant after taste. Metallic notes? I was expecting this one to be sweeter, but it's not. There's a nice roastiness and a touch of smoke. There's just something off with the flavors, and I can't put my finger on it. Mouthfeel is alright, light-medium bodied, lots of carbonation. Not the tastiest stout I've ever had.

Overall, the flavors didn't do it for me. I guess I expected a little more from Southern Tier. I'll pass on this one in the future. (836 characters)

Photo of IdrinkGas
2.83/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

From a 12oz bottle into a snifter.
Typical pitch black with a small, clingy off white head.
Some roasted barley, lactose sugar and a little hops.
Sweet malt, some roast, lactose, burnt coffee and a slight metallic after taste. Just seems overly sweet like the other Southern Tier stouts. The flavors don't mesh well for me.
Creamy mouthfeel with adequate carbonation.
Wishing I would have tried this before buying a six pack. (428 characters)

Photo of kbutler1
2.86/5  rDev -24.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Bottle. Poured into a tulip glass a dark brown color with a thick light tan head. Slight roast and chocolate in the nose but nothing over the top like some of their other beers. Medium, velvety mouthfeel. Slight roast with a dark chocolate sweetness. Almost has a little smokiness to it as well. Ends with a lingering bitterness and leather taste. Overall, not as good as I expected from them. (393 characters)

Photo of Fadefury
2.9/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A - Dark black color with the standard white head

S - Roasted chocolate with the hints of cappuccino

T - Chocolate is up front, but the bitterness of the high alcohol takes too much away from the sweetness and silky texture that should be there in any milk stout

M - Very thick, high carbonation for a milk stout

O - Overall, I wouldn't really consider this a "milk stout", or what I think of when I hear the name. The bitterness takes away from the silky smooth texture and taste I love about milk stouts. (511 characters)

Photo of justintcoons
2.92/5  rDev -23%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured into an imperial pint glass.

A: Pours a transparent black with red highlights. Has less than 1 finger of white head that dissipates quickly and thin webbed lacing.

N: Coffee & cream along with milk chocolate and marshmallow.

T: Cola and watered down chocolate upfront. Some bitterness comes through mid-palate with cocoa nibs and a splash of black coffee. Finishes bitter with charred earth along with hints of lactose. There are some subtle hints on lemon citrus in there throughout.

M: Light-medium bodied, semi-creamy, smooth and dry.

O: This is actually kind of bitter for a cream stout. There is a good roasty quality to it along with some light tones of milk. Not bad. (686 characters)

Photo of ranger7
2.96/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Bought from Central Market in a Pick 6.
Poured from bottle into a pint glass.
(Review from notes)

A - Black and thick - no light can shine through this darkness. Tan head, which is small, but it hangs around.

S - Malt, cream, and a strong hint of alcohol.

T - Roasted malt, no sweetness. Bitter finish. Weird for a milk stout.

M - Not smooth, which is surprising - there is a fair amount of carbonation. Medium thickness.

Summary - Ok, they mislabeled this, right? It's a stout, not a milk stout. No sweetness, no milk or cream, it's not smooth and malty like a chocolate malt. Wow, my first taste of Southern Tier, and I'm super disappointed. (648 characters)

Photo of eric5bellies
2.98/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Drank from my Chimay Chalice

A - Pours a deep ebony colour with a tanned head that reduces quickly

S - Not much other than some dark malts

T - Very smooth flavours of chocolate and coffee. The booze is well hidden, slight bitterness on the finish.

M - Light to medium body and low carbonation

O - An enjoyable stout without being wow (338 characters)

Photo of righthereisay
3.03/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Purchased a single. I like a few other of the Southern Tier darks, so wanted to give this one a try.

Poured very black color with a nice frothy head.

Smells of cocoa and sweetness.

Overall, it was cocoa, sweetness, and little body. No alcohol taste at all. Carbonation minimal and a little minor bitterness at the end. Not complex at all. Not one of my favorite Southern Tiers. Considering I enjoy milk stouts, I was just not impressed. (440 characters)

Photo of cbutova
3.1/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Saw this for the first time recently, have always enjoyed Southern Tier for the most part.

A- Poured into a tulip with a pitch black body. Mocha tan head forms to about two fingers with low-end retention. Big bubbly cloud and ring leave a few spots of lace.

S- Dark cocoa powder, cereal grains and roasted malts up front with dark fruit in the background.

T- A bit more straightfoward here. Roast dark chocolate and cereal grains are dominant with slight dark fruit. Something going on that reminds me of oxidation but also overly roasted burnt ash, it gets distracting. Slight earthy hops.

MF- Creamy moderately thick body with a high carbonation level for a 7.5% stout. Finishes with some roast and hop bitterness.

The nose had me excited but the flavor has a kind of burnt hoppy oxidized feel that just doesn't blend out to well. (837 characters)

Photo of JK4Stout
3.12/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

A: Not too shabby. decent head, but not enough to send me into orbit. Great color. Makes me think of easter morning, but someone melted my chocolate bunny and put it in a tulip glass.

S: Meh...expected a bit more. Almost smells unfinished or just weak. I don't claim to know much about much, but I have drank my fair share of stouts...weak scent.

T: Average. Terrapin makes a way better product here. I was really excited to try this...even left a bottle of Chimay Blue chilling, but just didn't do it for me. Just not thick enough to justify the title.

M: Again average in every sense.

O: Try it if you like, but you've been warned. (637 characters)

Photo of BMMillsy
3.17/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Pours deep dark black from the bottle with very little head. Smells a bit of wet dog and a little roasty chocolate. Meh. Flavor follows with some mild chocolate and only a hint of roast. Slightly disappointed here. Syrupy stout with one dimensional mild chocolate flavor. Decent, but I'll stick to Mokah and Choklat. (316 characters)

Photo of Richardbeerlover
3.19/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Pours pitch black with a half inch light brown head. Smells slightly sweet. Tastes very slightly sweet with nice mouthfeel. Tasted like your typical stout. Nice and fairly thick and creamy. Was expecting a more softer taste and feel what with the lactose sugar advertising. Overall a nice beer. (294 characters)

Photo of Jeffsta1
3.2/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Tasting this transports me back to childhood, visiting my grandparents in Buffalo, tasting my grand-dad's Genesee Cream Ale. A fond memory but honestly, not very good beer.

Pretty, dark color. Fine tan head.
Bouquet of an American lager hints at disappointment to come.
Moderate mouthfeel, would expect more richness from the color.
Flavor has some bitterness, cocoa. Improves a bit in the glass.
But honestly: meh. With a name like 2x stout I expected something more Imperial.
Decent finish, reasonable intensity. (515 characters)

Photo of busterthecat
3.2/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle dated 12/12/11 poured into SA perfect pint glass. Served at 50 degrees and allowed to warm a bit.

A- Pours a translucent deep garnet red hue from bottle. A small mocha head forms before quickly reducing to a light ring and island of foam.

S- Pretty light aroma overall. Sweet dark malts and chocolate upfront. Hard to pick out much else.

T- Decent blend of chocolate and sweeter roasted malts. Simple overall. A slight bitterness from the roasted malt and gives the sweetness something to play off.

M- A bit thin for a stout of this size. Should be fuller and creamier for a bigger milk stout. Roast lingers the longest on the palate.

O- A decent offering from Southern Tier. Was hoping for more having tasted several of their other stouts. Perhaps I am judging this brew to harshly. (805 characters)

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2X Stout from Southern Tier Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 389 ratings.