Live Oak Primus Weizenbock - Live Oak Brewing Company

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95
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226 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 226
Reviews: 53
rAvg: 4.27
pDev: 9.84%
Wants: 63
Gots: 28 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Live Oak Brewing Company visit their website
Texas, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.30% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: wagenvolks on 11-24-2008

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Reviews by ExaltedNecrosis:
Photo of ExaltedNecrosis
4.15/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Freetail Brewing in San Antonio, TX.

A - Pours a very cloudy and murky dark amber/brown with a finger of tan head.

S - Lots of banana and dark fruit in the nose along with sweet caramel and clove.

T - Great flavor with banana at the forefront followed by sweet caramel malts, clove, and yeast. There is a slight hint of chocolate as well, though very subtle.

M - Moderate body with moderate carbonation. It's smooth and drinkable, with a surprisingly well hidden alcohol.

O - Yet another great beer from Live Oak. I still prefer the hefe, but this is great nonetheless.

More User Reviews:
Photo of Mora2000
4.2/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Uncle Billy's during a recent trip to Austin.

The beer pours dark brown with a cream colored head. The aroma is strong bananas and wheat. The flavor is bananas, wheat and cloves. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. Nothing too complicated or fancy, just a very well executed weizenbock that has no flaws. One of the best beers of this style I have tried.

Photo of glid02
4.05/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at the Flying Saucer in San Antonio, TX.

Pours a hazy brown color with slightly purple highlights and a one-finger light tan head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of spicy wheat with good amounts of brown-sugar coated fruits - mostly raisins and dates but also with good amounts of banana.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Deep wheat flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by good amounts of brown sugar and nutmeg. Midway through the sip banana flavors enter into things, backed by almost equal amounts of raisins, plums, and dates. The fruit flavors carry through to a crisp ending.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a smooth thickness with grainy carbonation.

Drinkability is good. I didn't have a problem finishing my glass and could have another.

Overall I have to admit I though this beer was a dubbel from the first few sips however as it warms the banana asserts itself a bit more. Worth a shot.

Photo of jbphoto88
4/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had on tap at the flying saucer. This beer is a dark shoe leather color with a surprisingly white head. The body is hazed and clouded and that white head fades quick to thin collar.

Nose is sweet and fruity with a balance of toasted cereal grains. The smell of banana and cloves mix well with the darker roasted scents. Very nice.

Tastes just like it smells. Banana and caramel grains with hints of clove and bubble gum. Darker and richer then expected and very tasty.

Mouthfeel is sharp with a fine carbonation and a medium body. Slightly coating with each sip and a warm clove spice and toast aftertaste. A very fresh brew with a robust flavor and nice layered complexity. A great version of a weizenbock and well worth seeking out.

Photo of LonghornBrewer
4.32/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on Draught at the Dallas Ginger Man.

A: Dark caramel color, with moderate head formation and retention

S: The smell is wonderful. Disclaimer, I'm quite a fan of the Hefe, and this has many of the same characteristics, so I may be biased.

Lots of banana and clove, with a touch of roasted malt letting you know you this isn't, in fact, the hefeweizen, but rather something delicious unto itself.

T: Follows the smell closely- clove, banana, a touch of roasted malt. Honestly, it tastes more like a Hefeweizen than a bock, but when the Hefe it resembles is Live Oak, all is well.

M: Creamy, with slightly above average carbonation.

D: Contrary to some of the other reviews, I found this ale to be extremely drinkable. In fact, I couldn't believe it was over 5% ABV, much less 8%.

Much like the LO Hefe, the flavor of this beer is not one that I grow tired of quickly- you could honestly session it if it wasn't for the higher alcohol content.

I had never heard of this offering prior to last night, but decided to try it based on Live Oak's track record of making great brews- boy am I glad I did! I would highly recommend this offering- especially if you're fond of the Hefeweizen Live Oak makes.

Photo of augustgarage
4.08/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Endless thanks to gawnphishin for the growler fill - this seems a good subject for review #600. Poured into my Aventinus weizen glass.

Dark brown liquid with hints of cordovan - when held to a light, it is revealed as clear with fulvous highlights. Very slight head despite a vigorous pour - more likely a fault of the serving type, though this is still quite fresh.

The second I turned the cap I knew the aroma was a perfect score. Incredible depth of melanoidins, malt, dates and plums along with red banana and a breath of nutmeg-like phenols.

Very bready palate entry, though there is a slight metallic note as well. A fair amount of spice follows, not to mention alcohol. Jammy, bubble-gum, sugar cookie, and prune flavors flicker in and out of view as well. The finish re-iterates all that has come before along with more bread and just a hint of peppercorn. My g/f, detected a touch of vinegar, though I didn't find this...

The ABV seems a little exaggerated; also, this is rather flat, though again, this is more likely the serving type at fault.

Strong, melanoidin-rich, fruity, big wheat beer - perfect to warm you up on a cold night. While imperfect, this is up there with Howling Wolf weizenbock on my list of great domestic examples of the style.

Photo of UGADawgGuy
4.33/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Obtained my second growler of this fine beverage in a local-for-local trade with Phoenix2443. Although I still like Live Oak's stellar hefeweizen better, Primus is an outstanding American-brewed weizenbock in the traditional Bavarian style.

Appearance: Pours a rich, deep, nearly opaque color somewhere between mahogany and black. Even after a few days in transit, a confident pour yields a quickly receding two-finger khaki head. Primus has the look of a classic dark weizenbock along the lines of Schneider Aventinus.

Smell: Wheaty tang, caramelized bananas, brown sugar, and molasses are all there, backed by a faint alcohol astringency. If that funky wheatiness were scaled back just a little, this stuff would have a near-flawless nose. Still, it smells appetizing and true to style.

Taste: Nice. Toast crust, faint brown-sugary sweetness, dry weizen yeast, and a hint of wheaty tang wash over the tongue and down the throat. My only minor quibble here is that the flavors are somewhat fleeting, and that might be due in part to my not having the beer fresh from the tap. It's still pretty awesome.

Mouthfeel: Carbonation is on the light side, again probably due to my not having the beer fresh from the tap. It's still carbonated enough, even after a trip in a growler from Texas to Georgia. Primus doesn't have the brilliant creaminess of Live Oak hefeweizen, which actually DOES hold up in transit. Again, though, Primus is sufficiently carbonated to carry its flavors. No real complaints here.

Drinkability: At 8.00% abv, Primus won't exactly bowl you over with its strength, but it's discernibly "warmer" than many wheat beers. Served at refrigerator temperature, Primus is very refreshing, and its moderate strength and flavor profile make it an excellent choice on a cold, damp night (of which there are many in early spring in north Texas and Georgia).

Highly recommended to any wheat beer fan who can get his hands on it. In my view, Live Oak is the best wheat beer brewery in the United States (with Weyerbacher, New Glarus, and Penn all nipping at Live Oak's heels). Nice work by the guys in Austin.

Photo of tempest
4.05/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Had an 8oz glass at dinner at Lambert's in Austin. I swear it's very hard to tell this apart from Aventinus, the only obvious difference is there's an odd slightly watery element to the mouthfeel. Otherwise there's a rich blend of sweet, smooth wheat bread with caramel and dried fruits that make for an excellent after-dinner beer. Try this out, there are certainly few American-made weizenbocks that can match this.

Photo of nickhiller
4.47/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Copper/brown and cloudy. Very nice foamy head, about a cm thick. Good lacing.

S: Banana, clove, cider, bubblegum. Fruity and toasty.

T: Tastes very Bavarian, almost like a pretzel. Tastes very similar to smell - cider, banana, etc. Roasted malts really shine.

M: Medium bodied, smooth carbonation, a tiny bit of alcohol burn, but overall dangerously easy and pleasant to drink for an 8%

O: Reminds me of a milder version of Aventinus. Tastes very authentic, delicious.

Photo of goochpunch
4.38/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours out a murky brown with a thin head. Smells of dark, caramel malts, and a huge punch of hefe yeast: lots of banana, but overwhelmingly clove-y. Flavor is classic weizenbock: banana nut bread, slight booze, yeasty esters and phenols. Clove is the strongest player here. Sweet finish. Mouthfeel is full and a bit sticky with some stinging carbonation. Awesome example of a weizenbock. Hard to believe this was made in the US.

Photo of JWNeeley
5/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Appearance: Hazy mahogany, absolutely beautiful when held up to a light.

Smell: Banana, clove and awesome

Taste: Words can't describe how good this beer is. I won't even bother trying.

Mouthfeel: Thick and rich and silky smooth.

Overall: I've been waiting all year for this beer and it absolutely lives up to expectations. Hands down the best brew available on the market until it's retired for the season. I'd give my firstborn child if Live Oak would brew this year round.

Photo of afluentturtle
4.19/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Served on tap at Nobi Public in a Sam Adams glass

Appearance: Poured a muddy brown, with very little thin bubbly head. No lacing down the glass. I really find the color to be off putting, its almost like drinking swamp water.

Smell: Bananas, cloves, maybe some citrus, a little yeast. Very appealing to say the last.

Taste: A very nice sweetness, malts, caramelized bananas and plantains, some figs and apricot and other dark fruits.

Mouthfeel: Mild carbonation, good body, incredibly drinkable.

Overall: Didn't really know what to expect as I have never had a wizenbock. Other than the appearance this beer was very very good. Another home run by live oak if I say my self.

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.92/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served in a pint glass at the Flying Saucer. It's a very hazy, bordering on opaque, brown color with just a thin layer of light tan foam.

Nose is banana laden with a healthy dose of chocolate and cloves.

Lots of chocolate in the flavor with a prevalent wheat tang. Bananas and cloves are still there, but might be a little less prevalent than some of the German versions. It's also a tad thinner and not as creamy as some of the best weizenbocks. Maybe it is not quite fair to expect such greatness from Live Oak as their hefeweizen, but this one is not quite up to that standard. I like it enough and I would definitely buy it again, especially considering the lack of good draft weizenbocks around. Is this the first regularly produced Texas WB? If so, it's a good start.

Photo of joshuadlight
3.38/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Addison Flying Saucer.

Deep dark brown, minimal head, but its a clinger, nice lacing all the way down the pint glass. Roasty wheat and peppery smoke throughout the nose and very strong in the mouth. To me, its not the most pleasant taste, but I do think it fits the Weizenbock style. Goes down relatively smooth, and hides the 8% pretty well. I didn't try to drink more than one as I didn't particularly dig it. But, it is what it is, and I would encourage you to try it if you find yourself in Texas, especially if you are a Weizenbock fan. This doesn't taste all that far off Aventinus.

Photo of hiikeeba
4.37/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - pours up acloudy brown with little to no head

S - light banana aroma. Delicious!

T - sweet malts with that nice melanoidin flavor a finishes with a great banana flavor

M - full bodied with medium carbonation

D - nice easy drinking beer. Wish I could find this at home

Photo of brurevu
4.5/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The Primus poured a an opaque deep rich amber brown with a huge fluffy tan head. The aroma was pure bubblegum banana bliss that hit all the perfect hefeweizen notes along with the spicy yeast and slight bits of sweet pear underneath. The taste was sublime and the mouthfeel was rich and creamy and all that I want in a weizenbock. The bubblegum and banana flavors dominated along with the yeast and strong hefeweizen spice notes that were expertly balanced. The Primus has to be on of the best Weizenbocks I have had and second only to Aventinus (although it is a Weizen Doppelbock) and my favorite Live Oak beer. This rich, creamy, satisfying brew was a real treat and something to look forward to every year.

Photo of psujmatt
4.29/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

On draft at Flying Saucer.

A -- Looks very cloudy and a strange brown color. Had almost no head, though they may have poured it off.

S -- Fruit, almost like bananas and molasses, with a touch of raspberry or something else a little sharp.

T -- Light fruits, sweet with a tiny twang, topped with spices, especially clove. Reminded me a bit of mixing together Juicy Fruit gum with clove. That may not sound great but it tasted great!

M -- nothing out of the ordinary here.

D -- Very easy to drink. It was my first beer of the night and it went down very easily, leaving me wanting more immediately.

Very festive and was great both outside in the cold and inside in the heat.

Note: After having the beer a second time I decided that the look isn't that bad. I just wasn't used to it all, having been unfamiliar with the style. It originally looked like a dirty hefe to me, which was unappealing.

Photo of womencantsail
4.29/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thank you very much to Michael for sending a growler of this my way. I love me some weizenbock!

A: The beer pours a murky amber color with a large off-white head to go with it.

S: Smells absolutely fantastic. Tons of banana and dark fruits, along with a touch of cola. The yeast is present and there are some of those wonderful clove notes that it contributes. Perhaps just a touch of bubblegum in there, too.

T: Sweet malts, particularly of the caramel variety, and some wheat in there as well. More bubblegum than the aroma lets on along with lots of sweet banana, cola, and dark fruits. A mild spiciness of clove rounds things out.

M: The body is medium with a medium level of carbonation.

D: An absolutely fantastic beer. One of the better weizenbocks I've had period, but especially from a US brewery.

Photo of Ford
4.88/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Growler poured into a British style pint glass

Wow. What an amazing beer.

I've never had this style before. I wasn't planning on getting it when I walked into Premium Draught in Houston, but after trying it I was sold.

Discussed it with the store owner... it's just a hard beer to describe... it certainly has that Hefe smell and taste in parts... but there are other things going on also.. maybe a bit of a Bock taste... as I've said, it's hard to describe... but all I know is this is a great beer being made in Austin, Texas and since it's seasonal, I'm going to start watching for it around ever December!

On the Ford scale of Deliciousness... this one is at the top...

Magically Delicious!

Photo of champ103
3.81/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a murky brown/ruby color. A one finger beige head forms and leaves light lace.
S: I detect some banana and spicy clove. A touch of roasted malt. Not much else.
T: Follows the nose. Banana and lots of clove. Really, not much else to note. Tastes like the hefe, but with just a touch more roasted flavor.
M/D: This has a full body that is well carbonated for my tastes. Easy and smooth to drink. I would not have a problem making this a session, even at 8% ABV.

There is nothing wrong with this Weizenbock. It is very enjoyable, and something I look forward to every year. Just not among my favorites of this particularly great brewery.

Photo of AChamberlain
4.11/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Solid. Poured beautifully murky, with lasting lacing throughout. Wheaty aromas. Fruit. Bananas. Delicious banana and clove flavor. Luscious mouthfeel, smooth. I am pretty close to saying this is live oaks best beer. Almost. We will keep the hefeweizen there. Excellent. Highly recommended

Photo of natelocc787
3.9/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Several of these scores could have went up actually. Nice ruby purplish color to the body with a very creamy beige head. Lots of bananas, clove and wheat grain in the nose. The flavors come together nicely in this one, score could have been higher but the yeast bite was a little sharp. Great wheat bock, nice and fruity and dark with banana, clove, coriander, cherry juice and candies plums. Mouthfeel is superb as I am finding a pattern here with Live Oaks offerings. Very creamy without being frothy, satisfying, well carbonated but with little bubbles. Very drinkable and refreshing for such a dark beer.

Photo of Fnord
3.98/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Dark brown and very cloudy, with a thin white head. Looks delicious.

Smell - Dark fruit, sweet malt, chocolate, banana, and wheat.

Taste - Banana and clove take point, with a lot of wheat providing backup. A touch of alcohol and bubblegum flavors as well.

Mouthfeel - Very thick, almost chewy, leaving sticky residue on my lips.

Drinkability - Good for the high ABV. I wouldn't mind having three or four in one night.

Notes - An excellent Wezendopplebock. I get one whenever I'm somewhere that has it on draft.

Photo of Hoptometrist
4.32/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served on tap into a shaker glass.

A- Poured a murky brown with off-white frothy head that left no lacing.

S- Big pear, bubblegum, green apple, and some spicy yeast notes in the aroma.

T- Big pear, bubblegum, green apple, clove, spice notes, bready malt, and banana. Lots of clove and spice notes especially on the finish.

M- Prickly carbonation, smooth, dry, medium to fuller bodied, quite a big alcohol warming.

O- A great weizenbock that at some times reminded me of an awesome apple pie with nice sweet and baking spice notes. A really complex beer that revealed a lot of different layers.

Photo of BgThang
4.05/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Give this one its tenth review.

The appearance is cloudy and murky. Color is hard to describe. sorta like a murky tea maybe.

The nose is that of straight up roasted bananas.

Taste - Imagine taking a hefe beer and cooking it till its done per say. This is what you have a roasty, chocolate-covered banana.

This thing was very easy to drink although I found myself ordering a different brew because I have had alot of bananas lately due to a diet change.

Overall another dang good beer from Live Oak.

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Live Oak Primus Weizenbock from Live Oak Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 226 ratings.