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Cantillon 50 Degrees North-4 Degrees East - Brasserie Cantillon

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312 Ratings
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Ratings: 312
Reviews: 95
rAvg: 4.33
pDev: 8.55%
Wants: 592
Gots: 57 | FT: 9
Brewed by:
Brasserie Cantillon visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Gueuze |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: moulefrite on 01-02-2008

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Photo of JDV
2.13/5  rDev -50.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

bottle shared at tasting. Thanks for the chance to try this one!
No head on a yellowish gold pour. Smell is musty, band-aid like, and hoppy. Didn't get anything I would have identified as cognac though. Taste is tart, funky and nicely hoppy. Very light carbonation with a thin body. Sour but not intensely so, and a milder, thinner flavor than expected. Interesting, but not particularly wowing for the style. Just ok...

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2.5/5  rDev -42.3%

Photo of Crosling
3.1/5  rDev -28.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Very light golden orange color with a small, white head. Aroma smells of traditional Cantillon lambic with a very, very light added hint of cognac. Flavor is aged, well blended lambic with just the slightest note of cognac. Lacking the softness I would prefer and mainly just harsh, oude gueuze. A bit off balance and with out cognac character.

Photo of ccrida
3.43/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Chill hazed gold with a small white collar and skim.

Smell is somewhat, but not overly funky, a bit sweeter, with some vanilla and conac, the sweetness smells a bit like ass.

Taste initially has a nice mineral spritziness and moderate funk, but then is quickly taken over by the cognac, which is a bit to rich for my taste, and in spite of the dryness from the lambic, does't really mesh well for me at all. Not quite as bad a a lambic boilermaker, it's nevertheless not my style.

Mouthfeel is oily, medium body, but it comes off a bit thick.

Drinkability was ok, I didn't like the rich booziness of the cognac with the lambic, perhaps with more age it would smooth out and gain more sourness. I'm always happy to try a rare, expensive beer, but sometimes their rarity leads them to being over-hyped, which I would say is probably the case here.

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3.5/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.5/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.5/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.5/5  rDev -19.2%

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3.5/5  rDev -19.2%

Photo of ffejherb
3.5/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle into goblet on 10/2/09. Thanks to FooFaa for bringing this to the SourFest.

A - Poured a slightly hazy golden/amber body with a bubbly white head that reduced to a patchy veil and left modest lacing on the glass.

S - Band-aid, musty funk, some lemony citrus notes and oaky characteristics, as well as a hint of pencil shavings all appear at some point. Overall, the aroma is surprisingly pretty tame, with only subtle hints of sourness poking through.

T - Slightly sour band-aid quality with quite a bit of oak and woody notes and citrus pucker. However, this is not as sharp or sour as I had anticipated. There is also a mild (for lack of a better term) "puke burp" character in the middle. Finishes with a hint of earthy, musty bitterness.

M - Light to medium bodied with moderate carbonation resulting in some bristle on the tongue. Mouthfeel is kind of watery, although very dry in the finish with only a mild crispness.

D - This was a bit of a let-down, especially given all of the hype. While I appreciate the rarity of this brew, I really enjoyed everything else that we broke out at the SourFest much more than this.

Brewslut's Quote of the Day:
"So I shouldn't say this smells like diaper pail?"

Photo of Verecund
3.59/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

July 2011. Barreled in 2005, bottled in 2007.

Lightly coppered yellow-orange. One finger of head recedes to bubbles covering half of the glass. Some haze.

Bright citrus (orange), both tart and sweet, cutting through the damp hay funk. Tart green apple and sweet white grape - I'm guessing from the cognac - and just a peek of acetone (nail polish) that, once identified, I couldn't get past.

Lots going on on the palate. Hay, big boy funk, citric and acetic acidity, and a touch of peachy fruit. There's also some lactic acidity that's a bit too buttery in character. Probably the booziest Cantillon I've had, which is quite intriguing, with a tannic oak finish.

Lower medium carbonation, which makes this feel a bit full and sticky.

I don't like the word unique as a descriptor, but this is certainly different, and 50N-4E has depth to it. Having had this next to Crianza, I have to say I probably prefer that beer to this one, maybe because (contra most people's experiences) there's a bit too much cognac character here for me. And the acetone on the nose is hugely off-putting.

Photo of innominat
3.65/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of scottfrie
3.65/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks Jeff. Snifter.

A: Pours a light straw golden, flat, no head, no lace.
S: Light funk and acid on the nose with a big barrel quality. Cognac and vinous white wine are light.
T: Sweet tasting with notes of oak, cognac, straw, and light acid. Very vinous, but overall the flavors aren’t very strong.
M: Twinge of acid, not tart or bitter, medium body, no carb. Smooth, drying but not crazy, and very drinkable. Wish it had a few bubbles though.
O: Not the greatest flavor profile and a little muted, but still a very delicious and drinkable beer.

Photo of kevanb
3.69/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle, batch 2, poured into a Cantillon script tumbler, generously shared by Erik, enjoyed on 12.6.14, reviewed from Tasting Journal.

The beer pours a very clear copper color, light gold hues, a few bubbles rising to the top of the glass with a thin white head, poor retention and lace. The aroma is quite sweet, very rich, decent funkiness, a bit of barnyard, strong oakiness and must, but just super powerful cognac, that really tones down any fruitiness and floral character to a moot point. The flavors showcase a bit more complexity, funkiness, more traditional gueuzy funk, a bit of fruit and floral character peeps out, but oak is quite strong and the cognac, rich and sweet with some strong caramel and almost a bit of pepperiness that really lingers on the palate, not quite cloying, but assertively sweet. The mouthfeel is quite nice, smooth and coating with just a hint of zippy carbonation that finishes super easily, really helps the flavors feel a bit more alive.

Verdict: I can't say I'm loving this one. Enjoyable for sure, unique and creative, but the cognac is really assertive and for my palate, too sweet and too rich for a gueuze or a lambic. A novel experiment that achieves minor success, but a bit lacking complexity and balance.

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3.7/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2013 bottle poured into a Drie Fonteinen stem from a lambic basket. Thanks for sharing Matt!

Pour: Poured a hazy mellow orange yellow with two fingers of frothy, creamy white head. Head dimishes to a ring rather quickly. Not much lacing.

Smell: Lots of bright lemon, hay funk, earth, and oak up front. Some vanilla and caramel. Not much cognac, with a exception of a lightly boozy twang.

Taste: I'm not really sure how best to describe this. Up front, a nice bite of sour lemons, doughy bread, hay funk, barnyard, and earth. Very base lambic forward. Midsip, everything changes and immediately becomes controlled by boozy oak, vanilla, caramel, and nail polish. Not the most pleasant experience due to how boozy it is. Finishes oaky, dry, and tart.

Mouthfeel: Really nice on the front have, but the cognac presence is just too much, with fusel alcohol overpowering the finish.

Overall: I have to say, I was really disappointed with this one. Exciting to try, but not what I hoped for. I am curious as to how this will age... I hope it retains the cognac flavors, yet the alcohol bite that compliments them dimishes. Looking forward to revisiting in a few years, because this is far too young right now.

Photo of jegross2
3.73/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Reviewing the 50°N - 4°E from Brasserie Cantillon out of Belgium.

Score: 85

2013 vintage bottle served in an Upland snifter and enjoyed on 05/18/13. Review is from iPhone notes

Appearance: Pours a murky golden color with a thin layer of head that quickly settles to a pencil-thin ring around the glass. Below average retention, but good lacing. 4/5

Smell: Resinousy citrus, the traditional Cantillon dustiness, oak, lemon zest and a hint of vinegar. Some "hop familiar" qualities too, but not "hoppy." 4.25/5

Taste: Not very tart at all, more saison-like than what I expected. Not in your face intense with flavor either, but complex with delicate funky qualities. There is a solid medley of lemon zest, ample cognac, oak, mineral water, and a little earthy funk and plastic in finish. Has some flavor similarities to Cantillon's Classic Gueuze sans the tartness, but reminds me more of the Bruocsella (1900) Grand Cru. As it warms up, it gets slightly tarter and gains a distinct vinousness and fermented grape flavor. 3.5/5

Mouthfeel: Medium-light bodied, minimal carbonation. Light tartness. Vinous. 3.5/5

Overall: A solid beer that did not live up to its reputation for me. I was expecting something much different -- something more flavorful, carbonated, tart and less earthy. This brew reminded me of a vinous Bruocsella (1900) Grand Cru by the time it warmed up. While the complex delicateness was nice, I found this brew lacking in comparison to most other Cantillons I have had. I was quite glad for the opportunity to tick this one, but 50°N - 4°E is not a beer I would seek out in hindsight.

Cost: $30 for a 750 ml bottle.

Photo of beerhawk41
3.75/5  rDev -13.4%

Photo of IrishColonial
3.75/5  rDev -13.4%

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3.75/5  rDev -13.4%

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3.75/5  rDev -13.4%

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3.75/5  rDev -13.4%

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3.75/5  rDev -13.4%

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3.75/5  rDev -13.4%

Photo of shbobdb
3.9/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An interesting brew from Cantillon. Lambic brewers learned long ago to use aged barrels to prevent extracting tannins from the wood -- they don't agree with the sour normally present. But Cantillon throws those old guidelines to the wind, as the cognac still present in the barrels has a good deal of oaky tannins present in it.

At the start, this beer is fairly classic Cantillon, all the elements we've come to know and love: barnyard, apple, pineapple, horse-sweat, blackcurrant, nectarine, lemon, grapefruit -- the list goes on.

Then there is an odd lull in the beer. A space in-between. I'd like to say the cognac comes out at this point, but it is really more of a calvados flavor. A nice oak-and-apple flavor, almost like an apple-cider aged in oaken barrels, with just the slightest touch of apple-cider vinegar.

The beer then tries to return to gueuze-territory, but stumbles and gets lost along the way. There is a sudden rush of lactic sourness that you think is going to finish the beer off, but strong tannins from the barrel trips it up so the sourness is muted and a strong drying oakiness dominates the finish.

It is certainly a good beer, and I'd be very interested in seeing how this beer develops, but right now (July, 2008) I would say this beer is still a little young. It needs a few more years for the oakiness to subside and for the flavors to meld. That and the apple flavor is very pronounced and I think aging would help smooth that out. The whole beer gives the impression of a grapefruit-and-granny-smith medly.

Good, but if you've got 'em, give 'em some time.

Photo of jethrodium
3.9/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle generously shared by ipa247. Thanks Jeff. Pours a clear golden amber with no head. There are a couple of bubbles around the edge of the glass and no lacing. The aroma is funky with the cognac presence obvious and a bit of oak. There is also a light mushroom note. A bit of alcohol is there as well. It's not a lot, but more than any other lambic I've had. The initial taste has a light sweetness with a decent tartness. There is some funky oak, a bit of brandy, and some mushroom. The finish has some brandy and a bit of alcohol. Medium body. Low carbonation. Not bad, but certainly not my favorite Cantillon beer. It could have used a little more carbonation.

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Cantillon 50 Degrees North-4 Degrees East from Brasserie Cantillon
96 out of 100 based on 312 ratings.