The Belgian Shop
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Reviews by pwoody11:
4.7/5 rDev +29.1%
Ordered from here online. Found it using google trying to find a place that sells Westvleteren. The website was pretty good. It could use a few slight improvements.
I purchased 2 of each Westy 12, 8, and blonde ($175) and also 2 Brugse Zot 6° ($12). Shipping was $54. So as you can see it is quite expensive. Comparing to prices of Westy 12 on Ebay, it's actually not far off from what I've seen them go for on there.
Customer service was top notch and beer was packaged well and delivered in a timely manner. Big plus is there was no signature required for the delivery, so I didn't have to worry about missing it.
If you want a westy as bad as I did and have the scratch to throw down it, I recommend this place to you.
01-15-2010 22:42:12 | More by pwoody11
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1.8/5 rDev -50.5%
I ordered 12 beers from Belgian Shop on the 16th of June, 2014, at a shipped cost of around $115.00. The beer arrived today, a bit over 2 weeks for shipping, which seems relatively quick given the ground covered. Unfortunately, the packaging was not equal to the shipping speed - of the 12 beers ordered, 8 of them were broken.
The beer was in a cardboard box, the exterior thickly wrapped in plastic (presumably both for protection and to avoid spillage); I believe the box was initially partitioned, but the spilled beer had turned the box into a sodden mess, so it was difficult to tell other than by the amount of cardboard. The box was padded with styrofoam peanuts, but the bottles were not individually wrapped, which IMO they need to be for an international shipment like this, especially since a bit of extra plastic would add negligibly to the high shipping costs.
Overall I am extremely disappointed with the purchase, and am hoping that the company responds to my service request rather than necessitating a chargeback.
Update 7/14/14: I attempted repeatedly to get some sort of acknowledgement or response from Belgian Shop regarding the damage to my order, including sending multiple e-mails with picture attachments indicating the state of the packaging and its contents upon receipt. I received no response and have been forced to file a dispute with my credit card company.
07-01-2014 20:17:31 | More by Kevin082
2.1/5 rDev -42.3%
BEWARE- I ordered once and it was flawless, then I decided to order again. BIG MISTAKE placed an order over 165 American Dollars. The Post Office shipped it back to Belgian Shop and I still have yet to get a credit, I have sent over 15 emails in the 60 day period and have gotten NO replies.
DO NOT ORDER FROM THEM!
02-13-2014 18:53:04 | More by Nathanael1974
3.38/5 rDev -7.1%
I have ordered numerous times from BelgianShop, basically because they are the only game in town when it comes to getting some Belgian beers delivered to the US. Really, for that reason alone, this site is worth giving a shot. The website is pretty user-friendly, but also quite dated. The selection of beer (as well as all kinds of other goodies) is remarkable. You can spend a good chunk of time deciding what beers to try, though the descriptions/ reviews of the beers are not always particularly useful (they're kind of a mash of advertising and objective review, with sometimes interesting results). So, the good news: awesome selection; it would take a lifetime to try everything on the site. The not-so-good news: 1) the beer isn't outrageously priced by any means, but it's expensive after shipping; 2) the customer service is pretty bad; 3) shipping takes a long time, and tracking is generally unavailable.
Expect shipping costs to be $65 or more, depending on what/ how much you order. So, if you're ordering any significant amount of beer, you'll be paying $150 plus. Depending on how many different beers you order, it can take several weeks for your oder to fill before it ships. This is where the customer service really fails. After you're charged, you're basically left in the dark as to when your order leaves or how long it will get to you. Email correspondence is not answered promptly. And by that I mean anywhere from a couple of days to a couple of weeks. Shipping itself is obviously going to vary depending on location, but expect three to four weeks. If you're planning on ordering for a specific occasion, you will need to place your order about two months in advance at least.
My recommendation: do not mix and match a case with twelve different beers; keep it simple so that the order fills faster and gets out the door faster. Also, order way ahead of time and be patient. I've never had an order come incorrect, just much later than expected.
03-28-2013 17:34:40 | More by Kuromaru
3.89/5 rDev +6.9%
After all the excitement about the Westvleteren release I started looking on line and The Belgian Shop turned up. I decided to respect the brothers' wishes and didn't order any, but I did put together a box of two sixers from Brasserie de Legendes and one of their glasses.
I got an immediate order confirmation followed up by a live email. My card was charged immediately. All the beer was expensive (about $6 per 33cl bottle) the glass was reasonable ($12). "Standard" shipping was $52 with a $9 fuel surcharge.
Perhaps the staff would have been more responsive if I wrote in French. I ordered on 6 Jan and followed up on 28 Jan, which got an immediate reply "We're waiting on the distributor, sorry". They did not respond to my follow up on 12 Feb when I suggested that i add to the order to completely fill the box and it could have held a few bottles more.
I got the shipping notification on 13 Feb but for 10 days there was no further activity. The box arrived 19 Feb without notice. The USPS tracking site showed the box info entered on 5 Feb and I don't recall any further updates. Packaging was secure, the glass was in itsown separate box and each bottle was swathed in two layers of bubblewrap.
Would i buy from them again? I'm thinking about it right now. TBS provides obscure ales that I maybe could find in the Los Angeles area as well as some that look hard to find period. My time is very valuable to me and I have precious little of it, so TBS based on selection and convenience is right around the threshold of what I'm willing to spend.
Other reviewers have had better experiences with lead time, and I suspect that ordering specific items from a really small brewery caused the delay. Would have been nice to get some communication about this, and perhaps a free bottle as compensation.
Two standout features are the variety of products and the alphabetic presentation on the site. I find the TBS site easier to browse than Beerboxx and the comments are mostly "borrowed" from other anglophone sources. I learned a few things that were not mentioned on BA or the brewery's site.
03-17-2013 17:51:06 | More by Tinfang
3.74/5 rDev +2.7%
I have been using Belgian Shop for a few years and have always had good experiences. I find it a bit odd that there is a lack of tracking numbers, and they use a European shipping company that makes my head spin, but I have always got what I ordered in a timely fashion. This is a nice resource to find new products not yet in the states, or even rarer products that are hard to come by. Glasses have always arrived in good condition and packaged nicely. There is only two issues I have...1. I hate the fact that there are certain products that you have to buy multiples, which becomes a bit pricey, and 2. the shipping. I really won't complain about the shipping charges because I get it, but it can get a bit expensive for that.
12-16-2011 16:22:54 | More by OWSLEY069
3.88/5 rDev +6.6%
I have used these folks in the past and I never had an issue until the price of the beers exceeded what I could get the for here. The only beer I ever ordered was Trappist Westvleteren of course. I never had an issue on that. I ordered cheese and chocolate all at once and never had an issue. Once the 12 got over 12 euro (their price) I gave up on drinking it until I got in country.
That said I have heard of others having problems. Unless they got a beer you have to have I would avoid them now. Their lack of email response and customer service will piss off allot of folks.
who what you want, have LOTS of time to get it. Do not be surprised If you never get it, as if the old USPS sees a leak and opens it, I doubt you ever get the box. I ordered from them 6 times and twice it smelled like beer but I still received it.
prices westy just too expensive, the rest is no bargain either. Sometimes the magnums are a deal. sometimes.
09-27-2011 15:15:12 | More by azorie
2.3/5 rDev -36.8%
I am very disappointed with this company. They make a big deal on their website about customer service but fall far short. I placed an order at the end of November for a few items that I wanted to give my dear husband for Christmas. It is now a couple of days before Christmas and no delivery. I am quite sure that Belgian Shop shipped but according to tracking info the package has never left Belgium.
My complaint with them is that they won't respond to my emails and the postal service will not trace the package for me - the shipper has to initiate from inside the country of origin. It is easy to look good if nothing goes wrong but real customer service comes into play when things don't go smoothly.
Luckily my credit card company allowed me to dispute the charges - I kept detailed records of all my unanswered coorespondence.
It is unfortunate that a company that offers such a large selection to an international market refuses to assist its customers when something goes wrong. Buyer beware - you may not get anything in the end (except maybe a big headache).
12-23-2010 21:44:10 | More by jojokatjo
4.5/5 rDev +23.6%
I've ordered a few times from The Belgian Shop. My first order was for 6 bottles of Westvleteren 12 and 4 of the 8. This was quite a few years ago, when the 12 was selling for ~US$12 each!
More recently, I bought 6 bottles of the Guinness John Martin version Stout. It's very easy to place an online order with this shop and given the distance from them to me, shipping was reasonable time wise and was pretty much on par with other overseas stores price wise.
Always well packaged so there's never a chance of any damage, I've been happy with my purchases from The Belgian Shop but, I would not touch the Westvleterens for sale there at current prices. No way. Other beers *are* good values so..I'll split the difference and put "value" at a bit pricey rather than "very expensive".
11-27-2010 15:16:31 | More by Bitterbill
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