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Verboten - Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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very good

700 Ratings
very good

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Ratings: 700
Reviews: 315
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 11.7%
Wants: 14
Gots: 34 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Weyerbacher Brewing Co. visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Pale Ale |  5.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
Formerly Zotten, but taken off the market in Feb 2010 in a copyright infringement agreement between Weyerbacher and Bierbrouwerij De Halve Maan.

(Beer added by: dborginis on 05-20-2010)
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Photo of ClockworkOrange
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 12 ounce bottle purchased at Abe's in Bethlehem for around $1.75. Uncapped and poured into my Duralex tumbler. The ale appears a hazed golden yellow color with about an inch of dense bone white foam. Taste and aroma consist of candi sugar, spicy peppery yeast, red candied apples, grapes, lemon, orange, quite fruity, notes of bubblegum. Crisp, dry, medium bodied and well carbonated for the style. The best thing to come from their house abbey yeast strain to date.

Photo of jdaelhousen
4.43/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pour produces a solid contribution of body under head. Perfect pour, consisting of about 1 inch of frothy white head over a copper colored body. Aroma consists of a strong fruit nose sustaining orange peel, coriander, & mild cherry notes. The maltiness of the Belgian style pale ale is definitely noticeable, among some toasted toffee complexities. Flavor contains an initial high carbonated bite of citris orange mixed among coriander and cherry. The fruit aspect of the beer is complex and evident. Finish provides lasting carbonation with the orange and coriander notes, but also accompanies a spicy herbal complex featuring some very mild clove notes. Aftertaste leaves a rustic coriander bite on the palate, as orange citris flavor and notes of hay and horse blanket rise up on the palate. Overall, this beer is extremely impressive, and at 6%, is very drinkable, refreshing, and flavourful. Nothing but outstanding!

Photo of Georgiabeer
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very solid new beer from Weyerbacher here. Pours golden with a classic White, tightly beaded head. Nice nose of clove and coriander and some crisp grain. Taste is somewhat similar, but much heavier on the coriander and lighter on the clove. Very, very herbal. Pretty smooth in the mouth with a peppery, herbal finish. Nice effort.

Photo of beerthulhu
3.65/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a pumpkin pie orange with gold hightlights and a swirling thick yeast haze. An ivory tusk colored head blossomed upwards 2 finger high before slowly settling to a rocky structure and eventually a thin whispy patchy covering. Visible effervesce was strong.

S: light overall, some orange candy sweetness and lightly toasted grain sweetness was evident. Light traces of citrus and semi-dry orange peels are mentionable. Overall for a Belgian pale the yeastiness and hops were both under-represented here making for an average experience. Was expecting a bit more from this brewery.

T: The flavor started out with an initial sweetness of oranges and pale grains along with citric undertones. A light yeasty sourness soon kicks in along with a dried lemon grass hopping. The bitterness was moderate-heavy, a well representation per style, with dried lemon peels closing things out. Per style a pretty good flavor here, sharply and bitterly hopped, crisp in nature making for good marks here.

M: sharp from the carbonation which livened things up a bit, while the overall feel was light, very smooth with a good display of bitter citrus on the finish and fade.

D: Decent drinkability overall, a well hopped dry bitterness delivers flavor wise though other aspects of this beer are lacking a bit. Good for a few but that would be my limit.

Photo of Billolick
3.8/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap pours semi cloudy yellowy amber, it lifts a tight khaki head, but then trails behind onlyminor lacing. Midle of the road Belgain pale in my book. Fruity in the mid section and then quite dry in the finish. Pleasant enough stuff, sessionable, would be nice with a warm weather lunch, salads, bread and cheese, but nothing to seek out or go nuts over.

Photo of smcolw
3.58/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Large chalky white head. Leaves lots of spotty lace. Foamy. Slightly hazy in an otherwise amber broth.

Sweet, almost like maple syrup, smell. Lots of sugar and candy with a faint amount of Belgian yeast in the background.

More dry than the smell indicates. Quite chewy. Very short aftertaste. Low level of hop bitterness. Still, it works in terms of balance. The swallow shows up a higher alcohol level than the ABV would indicate. In a word, I'd describe this beer as enigmatic.

Photo of firkinhophead
3.93/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

pours a hazy, almost cloudy, autumn gold. Apparently unfiltered. Rich, off-white head settles to a tight, solid cap of foam.

Aroma is straight up Belgian yeast, with the overripe fruit esters of banana and melon skin, and a hint of spice.

Taste has a nice balance of sweet honey malts and tangy, bubblegum-y yeast. Floral, lemony hops come in strong, with a surprising cilantro-like soapy bitterness. Any sweetness begins to yield to dry, crackery malts and tart apple. All that's missing is a nice wedge of brie. Bitterness in the finish lingers a bit long for my taste and is my only real complaint. Nice rustic quality to it that is suggestive of a farmhouse ale or biere de garde.

Terrific, weighty mouthfeel for a regular BPA without become heavy or cloying. A brisk carbonation helps in that regard, as does the dry finish.

A bit to bitter for the style perhaps, but pair it with some rich cheese, a baguette and some fig preserves and you have a great picnic.

Photo of CHADMC3
3.78/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy golden/orange to copper with a big off white head packed with dense carbonation bubbles leaving a thin lacing in its wake.

Nice aromas of yeast, pepper spice, banana, and coriander waft from the glass. As the beer warms, some sugar notes become apparent as well.

Pleasant flavors as well, more up front sugar than the aroma, sweet fruit, banana, again coriander, but more floral hop bite in the finish.

Medium to light in body, medium to high carbonation, somewhat dry finish, and a nice peppery bite to end.

Good brew, perhaps not traditional of the style in all aspects, but quite tasty. The flavor characteristics are borderline aggressive, but I would not complain.

Photo of Imstillthegman
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This one pours a cloudy rusty orange with about a fingers worth of off-white head. The head quickly faded to a ring, but left nice lacing.

The aroma is a basic version of what I had hoped for. Sweet fruit and candi sugar with a bit of peppery yeast and a herbal/floral hop note. Not bad, just doesn't wow me.

The flavor is quite enjoyable. I get the yeast right up front quickly followed by the sugars and fruit (pear and apple). The yeast comes back into play again with a nice pepper bite before I get the earthy hops.

Active carbonation keeps the flavor going after the swallow. Not too bitter, more dry and white peppery. Very enjoyable brew that I will pick up again.

Photo of Kadonny
4.1/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a bottle into a Duvel tulip glass.

A: A nice cloudy gold color with a nice one finger white fluffy head. Nice glass lacing.

S: Sweet fruits with some candy sweetness and a nice floral hop smell. Not overly complex, but nice.

T: Sweeter fruits start first with hints of pear, apple, orange followed by a deep candy sweetness and maybe some bubblegum. A nice yeasty spicy funk is tasted and then you get this massive hop hit. Tastes of floral spicy earthy hops linger at the finish and leave a nice bitterness. Not overly complex again, but very nice.

M: Medium and coating with some prickly aspects. Nice lingering bitterness.

D: High, these are really drinkable, and the abv is totally hidden.

Overall this beer is a tweener to me, but a perfect tweener. It's hoppier than a BPA, but not as hoppy as a Belgian IPA. It really is a great beer that is really enjoyable. Dan, this beer is wonderful, I love it. If you brew it regularly, I will buy it. A damn fine beer that is a nice mix between a Belgian and an American that is very enjoyable and drinkable. Good stuff!

Photo of Sammy
3.38/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Mr. Goodbar's. Some yeast aroma. White soapy head on light orange body. Medium mouthfeel. Smooth, and spicey, corriander, a little cloves and pepper.A little bannana. A little hoppy and drying in the finish. An average beer overall, likely better with food.

Photo of Lexluthor33
3.9/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A hazy,golden color with a really nice looking head and lace.
The aroma of spice,grain and fruit/gum.

The taste is sweet bubblegum flavor with only a touch of bitterness that is overcome by a good helping of hops. Some citrus notes as well.

The feel is light to medium body with a smooth ending.Medium carbonation.

Notes: Not Belgian,but still a very good beer.

Photo of jamie2dope
3.88/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Here we go again, another brew from Weyerbacher. This one is a Belgian Pale, which is a hit or miss style for me. Clear orange in color, with a decent amount of white head. Lots of bubbles are racing to the top of this beer. Musty smells start things off and stay throughout, with traces of fruit thrown in here and there. More phenols in the taste, along with some grapefruit-esq hops, and a dry finish. Medium bodied, this is one crisp and refreshing Belgian beer. Drinking it is pretty damn easy too. Here we have another winner from Weyerbacher. Keep up the good work guys.

Photo of dogfishandi
3.78/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

MY 100TH REVIEW kinda wish i couldve had a little better beer than this for the 100th, but the next 2 should make up for it.

pours a hazy glowing orange amber color. big fluffy head, almost pure white faded to a ring half way through the glass. just a touch of lacing.

in the aroma your hit with big bubblegum and bananna from the yeast, some spiciness, floralness, from the hops i imagine. the aroma almost reminds me of the flouride u used to get from the dentist when you were a kid.

for the taste you get some of the belgian yeast character, flouride taste, and then you get a lot of american hops. the 2 flavors combined create a kind of spiciness, almost peppery if you will. finishs a dry bitter spicy flavor that lingers. seems more like a belgian APA. doesnt seem to have the soft fluffy goodness of the true belgian PAs. for this i go down in the score a little, still a very good beer.

smooth mouthfeel, medium body. good carb. but just not the same as an authentic belgian. good drinkability.

Photo of DanielClouser
3.25/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

I recently thought about the idea of toning down the bold new Belgian IPA style to a Belgian APA.

I think Weyerbacher had the same idea, and Zotten is the result, as it is not consistent with the classic BPA style.

Overall, it was very successful, but there was a pervasive grassy sort of bitterness in the flavor that really hurt the brew (especially its drinkability).

I think maybe the hops variety used and/or how much is used for bittering should be re-evaluated for this beer, as it otherwise has potential to be excellent.

Photo of Patrick999
4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours an attractive shiny pale copper, like a penny.

Copious bubblegum in the nose, some clove. I thought it was an impressive strong aroma.

Nice flavor, a Belgian pale with much of the sweet bubblegum flavor, cut with a dose of citrusy American hops. A flavorful little beer.

It doesn't feel as light and pillowy as a from-Belgium Belgian pale, but few American interpretations of the style do.

Good beer. I wasn't prepared to like it as much as I do.

Photo of JohnQVegas
3.93/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle into Sam Adams Lager glass.

Pours a hazy bright copper, just a bit on the dark side, with a thin, fizzy off-white head that disappears pretty quickly.

Nose is nice - tangy tropical fruit and spices (coriander?), c-hops come though citrusy and pungent. Yeast comes through tangy and just a bit peppery. I like this one, though the northwestern hops tend to steal the show just a bit - they could be toned back a tad. Or at least made cleaner, their pungency is what's holding this one back.

Taste carries more notes of lightly pungent c-hops, citrus and tropical fruit, big and spicy yeast note, peppery even. Light to moderate bitterness towards the finish that carries with the peppery, spicy note on the finish. Interesting, but the c-hops really take an overly heavy hand with this one in my opinion - give me a Belgian pale with grassy noble hops any day of the week. Not as subtle as I'd like it to be, but still pretty tasty.

Mouthfeel is ok. The hops are laid on a little thick and rob the beer of the lightness I was hoping for, the body being a bit full as a result. Not as dry as I was hoping for either.

Drinkability is pretty nice. When they say Belgian Pale Ale, I think they mean, Belgian-influenced American Pale Ale, not Belgian Pale Ale as in the traditional Belgian style. At least that's my take on it anyway. Still, not exactly what I would call a resounding success - not every style is made better with a big punch of American hops. Leads me to wonder what a classic like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, which isn't quite as heavy handed with the hops, would do with such a treatment. Compared to the classics of the style like Orval, though, this one isn't even close.

Photo of wiseguy142
3.03/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pretty good looking. Amazing viscous head, lasts a while with some quickly dried up foamy lacing. Not a big fan of the color.. sort of a stereotypical beer color but there's nothing wrong iwth it.

The aroma is almost too much for my 1 unclogged nostril to handle. Sort of a pungent Belgian smell. I'm not a huge Belgian fan in general and it comes off to me as smelling like bleach. Otherwise very floral to sort of an extreme, like smelling a scented candle.

The taste again follows the bleachy smell. Maybe I'm sensitive to this because some of my early homebrews had problems with phenols, but this is a phenol phuck phest. Sweet and tart around the edges with a hint of alcohol.

You can tell the beer is bottle conditioned because it feels a bit foamy immediately when it enters your mouth. Drinkability not so much.

I'm having trouble finishing this. I don't think it's bad per say. I read in BA mag that some people were claiming it's too young and I think I tend to agree. Never been a big fan of Belgian Pale Ales in the first place- the Belgians I really like are the Strong Dark Ales but I wanted to try this out. I'm going to save the rest of the 4-pack for a few months and try again.

Photo of hosehead83
3.83/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

poured into a traditional pint glass
Big billowy head-Deep gold to golden brown in color
Aroma-Sweet malt, faint hop aroma
Taste-Definite maltiness with an underlying English mineral hop flavor and a Belgian "tang" throughout--Abit unbalanced for my tastes, a bit more hop infusion would have evened things up some, but upon warming the flavors seemed to meld together a bit better.
Overall, not too bad and certainly worth a try.

Photo of TurtleCove
4.43/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle bought as part of a mix pack from local beer distributor.
Poured into a Duvel tulip, great looking beer. Deep golden honey brown, expected cloudiness from lees. Three finger white head, fine bubbles, subsides slowly to good lacing.
Smell is as expected from a Belgian style pale ale, yeast, spice and citrus, maybe a hint of melon and banana too.
Mouthfeel is nice, smooth and almost creamy form the fine carbonation.
Taste, like smell, is as expected from a Belgian style pale ale with great yeast and a slight hoppy finish. One interesting, and very pleasant, flavor note is a slight herby flavor reminiscent of fresh dill.
Eminently drinkable.

Photo of callmemickey
3.65/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Murky pale orange-amber body. Moderate offwhite cap, little lacing... Not as robust as I expect from the style.

S: Mild candied sugars, banana and yeast. Soft and rounded.

T: More of the same. Pleasant, if not bland. Lacking in the depth to elevate to the next level. Mostly breaded malts and soft banana / yeast notes.

M: Smooth. Clean finish.

D: Easy drinking... overall the beer falters from its lack of sophistication and assertiveness... a solid beer nonetheless.

Photo of techcommdood
3.53/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazy dirty gold color with quite a bit of head (2+ fingers), and quickly reduces to a thin layer of light foam at the surface. Moderate lacing on the glass. A bit of a funky color, almost like 50/50 lemonade/iced tea.

Strong malty nose with coriander, citrus, and peppercorn. Slight wildflower notes.

Dry hoppy taste with malted barley, citrus zest, coriander, and a touch of black pepper.

Mouthfeel is surprisingly mellow and juicy at first, but turns to dryness afterward. About average drinkability on this one.

Overall, a good session ale.

Photo of ToddT
3.38/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A- Slightly cloudy, pale orange/copper color with a two finger cream head. Head is sticky and leaves some lacing on the glass.

S- Fruit, bubblegum, spice, sugar, and bananas. Mild in aroma.

T- Taste is much more powerful than the aroma would have you think. Tart fruit right away, then a mild sweetness with spice follows to tone it down. This is quickly followed by an unexpected bitter hop bite. The aftertaste wavers between bitter, sweet, and astringent.

M- Medium in body and well carbonated. Finish is clean but unusual with the lingering bittersweet tastes.

D- Alcohol is well hidden and at 6% ABV it is pretty drinkable. I'm not sure if I would be able to session this one though.

Tastes a little out of balance and not as smooth as I would expect a Belgian style to be. The finish is the flaw for me. Worth trying.

Photo of maximum12
3.95/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to AgeofQuarrel for sending this brew to Minnesota; I've been on the lookout for it & am excited to finally have this in my greedy, slightly dirty little hands (I was pulling weeds earlier).

Pours an interesting pale orange hue, a bit like me when I've been out in the sun too long. A pass of the glass beneath my ass (nose) yields an interesting amalgam of the wheatiness of a hefe & the yeastiness of a Belgian.

Interesting beer. The taste is a perfect mirror of the smell: Belgian candy & yeast, with a grassy, wheatishness that would be comfy in a hefe. Beneath the surface there are some summer fruits, & spices, maybe a bit of banana & cinnamon or something to contribute some depth & interest. Tart & dry on the tongue, with a mid-July taste that begs for a lawn chair & a copy of Frank Herbert's "Dune".

Very good brew. Glad to have tried another Weyerbacher experiment, & a successful one at that. Start sending some of these north!

Photo of Nickls
3.8/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(From notes)

A - Very thin, pure white foamy head; burnt orange/light rust color

S - Citric; yeasty; bit of banana bread

T - Bready yeastiness; darker fruit flavors; dry vinous finish

M - Medium to thinner; fine, subtle carbonation

D - Just a touch too heavy in the body against the style for me; and the dry/yeasty combo just didn't really demand more from me.

Not an overly complex brew, but nice in certain aspects.

Verboten from Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 700 ratings.