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Seventeen - Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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Reviews: 86
Hads: 276
rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 11.53%
Wants: 11
Gots: 29 | FT: 0
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Weyerbacher Brewing Co. visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Rifugium on 06-02-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
2.07/5  rDev -44.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz bottle to tulip. $5.00 for the single. Sampled 6/15/12.

A: A smooth but quick pour produces a fizzy/foamy ivory colored cap, quick to rise to a finger and a half - and fades audibly over 20 seconds or so. A small amount of tight knit bubbles collect around the edge of the glass. Lacing is improbable. The body has a glowing rustic orange hue, medium-light in intensity with above average haze. By now, the only visible activity is created from the bubbles rising to the surface.

S: Lemon and grapefruit peel standout above the other listed ingredients - and come through in a sour, bitter, pithy way. Peppery spice with a deeper layer of clove plus bar-of-soap and other cleaning agents. ABV-wise, the size of the beer is boastfully apparent.

T: Brash, abrasive and unapologetic. Headache. Bitter citrus fruit flavors with dried flower and a generic malt bill.

M: Well, it's definitely the chewiest saison I ever had. Low carbonation on the front end with a gently tingling effervescence from mid palate on. Dryness is accentuated by the high alcohol and bitterness. This beer is either allergic to - or at war with refreshment. Suffice it to say: Not saison-like at all.

O: Brewing is all about having fun and trying new things - I get that. Why shouldn't Weyerbacher do something whacky to celebrate their anniversary? (Congratulations guys!) On the other hand, I think the world would be a much better place if "super saisons" didn't exist. They are unnatural. And the concept alone is even more paradoxical than the Black IPA. (1,541 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.33/5  rDev -37.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 ounce bottle - $2.79 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a clouded, pale gold body with a small, thinning, essentially white head.

Smell: Sweetish, ethanol-laced wheat malt sitting atop squelched notes of varied citrus rinds and peppery spices.

Taste: Malted wheat with a light pinch of powdered sugar. Some initial floral tones (until the numbing alcohol kicks in), but that's right around when the citrus peelings roll in. Spicy, peppery qualities from the yeast, presumably from the alcohol as well, and the peppercorns, with a lingering spiciness beyond the full finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium carbonation.

Overall: "Seventeen weighs in at a style-obliterating 10.5% abv." It also destroyed my patience right off the bat. Harsh, flabby, boozy. Happy Anniversary. (813 characters)

Photo of Stunner97
2.74/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Appearance- very overally chunky even after even a very slow pour, not sure if product of its age or just how the beer was, golden yellow color with thin white lacing,

Smell- nice malty sweet nose with citrus orange tones

Taste- starts up with little bit of citrus and fruit but really rounds out just being super heavy of spice tones, the spice really over dominated other aspects of flavor

Mouthfeel - light carbonation soft and slick, slight warmth from alcohol

Drink ability /overall- the spice def took off drinability as did some strong alchol at points, overall this beer though not bad was just bit too boozy and off balanced for the style almost came off to me as more of an off balanced triple, I didnt like this better then merry monks if going for that style, any way it wasn't better then average to me (821 characters)

Photo of trxxpaxxs
2.95/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours a hazy golden straw with a full finger of pure white head. The foam takes quite awhile to settle. There is nice lacing as it drinks.

S: The nose is tons of citrus peel (mainly lemon and grapefruit) mixed with a generous helping of Belgian yeast. It's spicy, but I can't pull out the peppercorns.

T: It starts off with a nice mix of sweet, citrus and yeast. As it progresses on the palate it becomes insanely bready and funked. The finish is yeast and booze. This beer has some serious alcohol bite.

M: Medium bodied beer. There is a lot more heft to this beer than meets the eye. It's sweetness lingers from start to finish and it's boozy in the back end. Dry finish.

O: Not a fan of this at all. The initial flavors of this beer are alright, but it gets way too funky in the middle. It's overly yeasty and has a massive abv that is completely noticeable. Maybe this beer needs some time to settle, because right now it's not very good. (949 characters)

Photo of JustinAniello
3.08/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A - Pours a straw yellow with plenty of floating particulates and a minimal head, dissipates quickly to no cap and sticky lacing.

S - Heavy yeast and breadiness with citrus, mostly lemon and grapefruit, peeking through.

T - On the tongue a citrus medley that switches between sweet and tart. Changes on the swallow to what I can only presume is the peppercorns, which I find awful. Slight bitterness and a possible metallic aftertaste. Bitterness seems to grow with time.

M - Medium body and carbonation.

O - The one flavor in the middle of the beer kills it for me. Minus that not a bad beer. Will not have again. (618 characters)

Photo of BARFLYB
3.11/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On Tap at Old Eagle Tavern.

Served in a ten ounce portion, this 'super saison' pours out a deep dark golden look with some burnt orange in between. There is some depth in the look as it is not entirely clear, cant see through the glass. By the time it got to me, there was a off white skim on top, leaving nothing. Smell is pretty earthy with grassy notes and some weird musky scents. Some floral notes and a whiff of alcohol. Orange comes to mind and some weird spicing going on. All in all, weird. Taste leaves where the nose leaves me, what exactly is this. Tastes include a variation of Merry Monk's yeast or perhaps some more of it. Earthy hop flavor, grassy notes,Some Belgian sweet flavor with orange, alcohol, and deep plum. The peppercorns are throwing me off though. Feel is bigger than medium with less and less carb as time goes by. Some warming which really should not happen in a saison, but this is 10 plus percent, which I think is the problem, to much for it's own good. One glass was more than plenty for me. (1,027 characters)

Photo of DIM
3.11/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

a: Bright, clear, shining golden color. Small, short lived head.

s: Mild overall, but appealing. Bicuity malts, mild spice, and warm, floral phenols.

t: Sweet, spicy, and a little hot. Sweet ripe bananas and a little citrus up front. Light spices mid-palate getting heavy towards the end. The finish is sweet, flowery alcohol and peppery cloves run amok.

m: Heavy for a saison.

o: I've loved most of their anniversary beers, but this was a miss for me. (456 characters)

Photo of justintcoons
3.16/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured into a goblet.

A: Extremely cloudy gold with sediment on the bottom of the glass. Very minimal head that dissipates quickly.

N: Clove, peppercorn, grainy and doughy malts and some lemon zest.

T: Quite heavy on the spices. Tons of clove and peppercorn. Grapefruit, caramel and lemon juice are on the front of the palate. Doughy, bready malts and banana peel kick in mid-palate. A lot of zests come in during the finish. Most notably grapefruit and lemon zest. Some light-medium booziness shows through.

M: Medium bodied, crisp, spicy, dry and warming.

O: Overly spiced with no Belgian yeast qualities. Definitely takes the off beaten path of a traditional Saison. Hides the alcohol considerably well. Meh, it's okay. (727 characters)

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.18/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours a glowing honey hue. Head is tiny. Barely a full film atop the beer. The beer glows but is shockingly quite hazy. Light lacing.

S-A deep, concentrated yeastiness. Bananas soaked in liquor. Definitely boozy. Herbaceous and spicy. Smells very robust.

T-A big ass Saison.Expressive yeastiness.Long alcoholic bite. Bananas and pepper and cloves. Syrupy sweetness and a lingering herbal quality.

M-Syrupy with a low carbonation level. A bit cloying with a considerable bite.

O/D-I now see why most Farmhouse Ales aren't such a high alcohol level. The flavors (especially the yeast) are turned up too high. But all-in-all, this was well worth trying at a decent pice ($3.00 a 12oz. single). Just a cool brew that is far from perfect but worth experimenting with. (771 characters)

Photo of mocktm
3.25/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a four pack of this for $17; a bit pricey but I suppose it is 10.5%.

Hazy orange color, modest white head and minimal lacing to match.

Nose is boozy, really boozy. The orange, lemon and grapefruit peel definitely contribute a sweet fragrance, but this is really overpowered by the heat. I don't really detect any pink peppercorns either, but really, I don't even know what that is...so yeah.

Tastes as I expected: sweet, citrusy, and boozy as hell. They really overdid the alcohol on this one and I don't really think it works. Also no barnyard funk what so ever, the very characteristic of a solid Saison.

Medium to semi heavy in body. Booze is not hidden at all. One and done for sure, I'm switching to something else.

Overall, a disappointment. I'll throw the remaining in the cellar and hope time does its magic to the booze and over compensating sweetness. (876 characters)

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.25/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

12 oz bottle courtesy of mwrecording pours a hazed orange color with a thin cap of white head. Not much for retention or lace.

Nose is tropical fruity and spiced up like a mutha. Overpower the spice and hops, little bit of alcohol, not much else.

Rustic, farmhouse saison this is not. Taste is really tropical, both from the alcohol and rampant yeast. Not overly pleasant as the spices just further separate this beer from its stylistic roots. Its not a bad beer, but more of a tripel than a saison to me and I am not a fan of spice additions in a saison. Bad saison, average beer and falls in the lower tier of Weyerbacher Anniversary beers. (648 characters)

Photo of hosehead83
3.27/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

poured from a 12oz. bottle into a wine goblet.
Cloudy apricot in color, with a short head of white foam.
Aroma-Spicy yeast
Taste-Citrus, fruity, spicy yeast. High alchohol content well hidden, but mouthfeel is way off as there is very little carbonation, almost going flat after a few minutes, not the bubbly effervescence of a farmhouse ale. This definitely lowered the score here. (382 characters)

Photo of prototypic
3.38/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Seventeen pours a lighter gold color. It’s definitely hazy. There are a lot of yeasty particles swimming about. I was even careful with the pour. Backlighting gives it a brighter, yellow-ish look. A soft white head sits on top. It’s rather modest, only rising to about a finger in height. It’s quick to recede, leaving a very light, spotty coat of lace clinging to the glass.

The nose is weak and surprisingly average. It really needs more strength. It kicks off with a malty, sweet smell. It has a strong sugary scent. Belgian yeast is noted and adds a blend of spicy notes. Clove and pepper are the most notable. It does have some light, citric fruit notes and an interesting honey note. It is earthy, grainy, and slightly herbal. Alcohol is definitely in there. Smells a bit strong for a Saison. Eh. For the style, it’s average.

The flavor is a little better. It does have a strong malt base and is very sugary. It’s a bit sweet for me. Belgian yeast is noted. It adds spicy flavors of clove and pepper. Spice esters are abundant. Coriander and orange peel are also noted. It is earthy, grainy, and herbal throughout. There is a light, citric grapefruit note and a bit of a honey flavor. Those aspects are interesting, but don’t improve the flavor much. Alcohol is there and is a bit strong for the style. It’s not quite warm or hot, but it is too prevalent. Finishes malty, sweet, and spicy.

Seventeen has a medium body. Carbonation is rather light and restrained. It has a pretty good feel, but won’t be confused with any authentic Belgians. Drinkability is okay, but suffers a bit from its size and sweetness.

Weyerbacher did an okay job with Seventeen, but it’s not among the best of its anniversary series. Its biggest problems are that it’s just too big for the style and it’s too sweet. That probably makes it sound worse than it is. It’s alright. Definitely worth grabbing a bottle. (1,924 characters)

Photo of axeman9182
3.39/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle from Amanti Vino's beer of the month program, poured into my petite Duvel tulip.

Weyerbacher's seventeenth anniversary ale pours an opaue tangerine. About a finger and a half of white foam floats atop the beer, not displaying much in the way of head retention or lacing. I'm surprised how much the peppercorns stand out, given all the citrus peel they have to compete with. Nonetheless, a floral, peppery aroma is what jumps out first. Bright citrus shines through next, and there's a slight (and not necessarily unpleasant) booziness present as well. Peppercorns are what take center-stage in the flavor profile as well. A warming alcohol note steps up to mingle with the spice, coming across as a little harsh at time. Grapefruit highlighted citrus doesn't come in until the finish. I was hoping for a little bit more and a little bit better balance. The body is somewhat full, I guess even a saison can't be bone dry at 10%. The carbonation has a little bit of life to it though. Weyerbacher Seventeen wasn't a bad beer, but dependnig on how fast peppercorns fade vs citrus peel fades, I think a little bit of time could do it well. (1,149 characters)

Photo of dredmahawkus
3.4/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

not bad.....cant believe I am drinking a beer that was made 5-25-12! lol its 5-2-15! they say on the bottle its good till 5-25-17!!!
its not bad...its a wheat beer that almost has an apple juice and spice to it. its kinda juicy like nineteen..but nineteen is way over the top juice tasting. this is like a cross between beer and cider? 10.5%!! wish I read that before popping open my 3rd beer! lol
I had to dump out nineteen but I think I can handle this one....its not bad not great. I will give it a touch over ok.
It is kinda like their farmhouse ale......less dank. (572 characters)

Photo of Sammy
3.43/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cloudy golden looks, with a minimal ring of a head, Bush glass. Booze exuded in the aroma. Above average mouthfeel, at first I am getting a strong ale/barleywine, at finish I am getting a grapefruit kiss. Decent drinkability, stronger funkier Belgian yeast at the end of the bottle. Maybe there is some grains of pepper, but overrun by the above flavours. (355 characters)

Photo of Brenden
3.5/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew is a lightly clouded pale yellow verging toward gold with lots of brightness. The head, almost pure white, fades from about half a finger to a thick foam that leaves a thinner ring at the top with spotting below.
The aroma has plenty of heat, but it's not face-exploding considering it's a generally soft style over 10%. It's a bit heady, though, considering. It does have some peppery notes and a bit of earth, lots of spiciness and sweetness just short of cloying. Lots of citrus, mostly rind in the aroma, adds an element. Weyerbacher may have tried to overload a style that shouldn't be, but it works out better than I'd think.
Along with must, spiciness and earth, as well as booze-soaked banana, the citrus adds a tangy lemon note as well as orange and lemon peel. Lots of all kinds of fruits are all over the place, largely due to the huge esters. A bite of pepper stays on the tongue after the finish.
Where it's too big shows mainly in the feel. Somehow it's kept together and doesn't stray into territory too bizarre, but its nearly full body is a bit too thick. Smooth, yes, and crisp, yes, just a little too much overall. (1,143 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy hay color ale with a large foamy head with minimal retention and not much lacing. Aroma consists of coriander and orange/lemon peel with quite a bit of residual sugar. Taste is also dominated by a mix of spices including coriander with some orange and lemon peel which are balanced against a huge malt backbone with quite a bit of residual sugar. Body is quite full with limited filtration and medium carbonation with no apparent alcohol. This beer is so big that it almost falls into the BSA category. I would probably have liked it better if it had traded some alcohol and sugar for additional attenuation which in turn would have provided more rooms for the spices to come out. (704 characters)

Photo of kawilliams81
3.5/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a 10 oz chalice.

A- pours a cloudy lemon color with a 1 finger dense white head. Ring of lacing forms and settles immediately.

S- big lemon, clove, caramel, and spices.

T- citrus rind, lemon, spices, bitter off-flavor taste.

M- medium body and carbonation. I would have no idea this was 10.5% if I didn't see it on here.

O- ok saison but drinks very well for the abv. (404 characters)

Photo of rlee1390
3.52/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A-Cloudy orange, some carbonation with a one finger head.

S-Clove banana with lemon and orange. Wheat rounds it out.

T-Kind of all over the place. Alcohol is present. The nice nose turns into an odd mesh of clove and banana. The lemon and orange do not come through much.

M-Medium bodied but little to no carbonation.

O-Maybe this beer needs to sit for a while, calm down and balance itself out. So far though Weyerbacher Anny beers have not been good. (456 characters)

Photo of wspscott
3.54/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle in Duvel tulip
date: 05/31/12 - 05/31/17

A: Crystal clear gold color with a very thin white head. No lace. A little bit of yeast ended up in the glass with a careful pour.
S: Some peppery spice and a some citrus
T: Definite spiciness along with orange peel, slightly sweet (pils malt with a light crystal malt?). No sign of the alcohol.
M: Rounder than I expect for a saison, the high carbonation helps keep it light on the tongue.
O: More like a Belgian strong ale or a tripel than a saison. A very good beer, but not what I was expecting based on the label. Worth trying if you like belgians. (610 characters)

Photo of billab914
3.54/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into my CBS snifter. Light orange in color with a thin, spotty head scattered across the top of the beer and concentrating around the edges of the glass.

The aroma has a strong presence of lemon zest and orange peel with a touch of bitter grapefruit citrus. The Belgian yeast spice is also playing a pretty big role in it. It's got a bit of a sweeter, almost honey like flavor to it as well.

The taste shows the yeast spice a little more prominently throughout. The citrus rind flavors are there as well giving it some lemon and orange zest. The finish is bitter with some grapefruit mixing in with yeast spices.

The mouthfeel is heavy for the style with carbonation being low. Overall, it was a pretty decent beer. It hid the abv very well and the flavors were pretty good. I'm not really sure the size and heavy feeling of the beer did it any favors though either. The refreshing, easy drinking qualities are usually the main reason I want to drink the style. It wasn't bad at all, but I think I'd choose something else in the style with half the alcohol content over it. (1,097 characters)

Photo of smcolw
3.55/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Modest head that leaves a minimum amount of spotty lace. Cloudy. Light gold/dark straw color.

Sour aroma of sitting malts. There's a touch of bittering hop smell at the end.

The flavor starts sour but ends with a strong pepper finish. The aftertaste is surprisingly short. Full body for the style. (299 characters)

Photo of nrs207
3.56/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at Weyerbacher as a sample. Served in a 3.5 ounce plastic cup.

A - From the small sample, nice fluffy white head. Hazy yellow just like a typical saison. Really refreshing looking.

S - The smell had the right amount of funk from Belgian yeast, but clearly had a lot of the grapefruit, orange, and lemon coming through. Didn't really get a lot of pink peppercorn in the smell.

T - The peppercorn comes through at the end in the taste, and has a nice little spice. Super refreshing, very well done saison. The fruit really comes through with a bit of funkiness.

M - Hides the 10.5% fairly well. Nice carbonation.

O - I walked in thinking it'd be a good saison and I might grab a bottle (yay new PA no case laws). I walked out with a 4 pack. I went with 4 other guys and they all liked it too. It's not mind blowing, but it's worth a try. (851 characters)

Photo of TheBeerDrinker
3.56/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Pours out orange in color with a nice one-finger head with little retention but some nice lacing.

Smell is a little citrusy and funky maybe with a little sweet malt backbone to help it out.

Taste has a sweet malt backbone with a tiny bit of funk with a little more funk down the throat that is more lasting. There is a little sweet bitterness when you first take it in and that lasts a tiny bit in the throat as well.

Mouthfeel is fairly thin but when you swash it around the throat it is a little thicker due to the carbonation.

Overall this is a really nice tasting beer. it's not as funky as I would expect but there is definitely some funk there. This beer shines as it is kind of unique in that it is sort of sweet for the style. Maybe that is not true to style as most would agree but it tastes nice for sure. I would recommend this beer but not for the style. It is just a good beer. Really not true to style but I am giving it some leeway as it is a great drinker. (976 characters)

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Seventeen from Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
84 out of 100 based on 86 ratings.