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Seventeen - Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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85
very good

249 Ratings
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Ratings: 249
Reviews: 83
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 13%


Brewed by:
Weyerbacher Brewing Co. visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Rifugium on 06-02-2012)
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Brenden

Ohio

3.5/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew is a lightly clouded pale yellow verging toward gold with lots of brightness. The head, almost pure white, fades from about half a finger to a thick foam that leaves a thinner ring at the top with spotting below.
The aroma has plenty of heat, but it's not face-exploding considering it's a generally soft style over 10%. It's a bit heady, though, considering. It does have some peppery notes and a bit of earth, lots of spiciness and sweetness just short of cloying. Lots of citrus, mostly rind in the aroma, adds an element. Weyerbacher may have tried to overload a style that shouldn't be, but it works out better than I'd think.
Along with must, spiciness and earth, as well as booze-soaked banana, the citrus adds a tangy lemon note as well as orange and lemon peel. Lots of all kinds of fruits are all over the place, largely due to the huge esters. A bite of pepper stays on the tongue after the finish.
Where it's too big shows mainly in the feel. Somehow it's kept together and doesn't stray into territory too bizarre, but its nearly full body is a bit too thick. Smooth, yes, and crisp, yes, just a little too much overall.

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2014 20:19:26 | More by Brenden
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twiggamortis420

Texas

3.25/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

12 oz bottle courtesy of mwrecording pours a hazed orange color with a thin cap of white head. Not much for retention or lace.

Nose is tropical fruity and spiced up like a mutha. Overpower the spice and hops, little bit of alcohol, not much else.

Rustic, farmhouse saison this is not. Taste is really tropical, both from the alcohol and rampant yeast. Not overly pleasant as the spices just further separate this beer from its stylistic roots. Its not a bad beer, but more of a tripel than a saison to me and I am not a fan of spice additions in a saison. Bad saison, average beer and falls in the lower tier of Weyerbacher Anniversary beers.

Serving type: bottle

01-20-2014 00:45:51 | More by twiggamortis420
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spicelab

Australia

3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

12oz shared with MrKennedy and heygeebee, courtesy of the former.

Piss yellow, near clear, on the first pour at least. Solid white head forms nicely before retreating to a collar.

Rather busy nose, mostly in a good way. Earthy grains, tangy spice, pear Danish, stewed apricots, doughy yeast and fennel. Quite evident honeyish, sweet malt base. Varying presence of solventy phenolics.

Sweeter with obvious booze presence, but still plenty of dry floral spice, bitter citrus pith and heather.

Hits the palate medium but quickly becomes heavier as the booze heat asserts. A little harsh until a deceptively dry late finish.

Worthwhile and fun. Mostly accommodating given the ingredient bill, but still rough around the edges.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2013 07:56:35 | More by spicelab
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buschbeer

Ohio

3.76/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

12 Fl. Ozs
Served in a tulip glass

A - It is a sunset orange/yellow color to it with some golden highlights. It is cloudy, and the last of my pour dumped in chunks of yeast.

S - The aroma has some lemon grass and spicy yeast. There is a pear smell, as well.

T - The tastebuds are dazzled by a spicy yeast. Some lemon, alcohol, and pear come on the finish.

M - Medium

O - This is a pretty good beer. I should have probably sit on it longer to cover let the alcohol mellow out. This beer has tons of flavor, and it definitely warmed me up.

Serving type: bottle

08-06-2013 23:37:57 | More by buschbeer
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DIM

Pennsylvania

3.06/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

a: Bright, clear, shining golden color. Small, short lived head.

s: Mild overall, but appealing. Bicuity malts, mild spice, and warm, floral phenols.

t: Sweet, spicy, and a little hot. Sweet ripe bananas and a little citrus up front. Light spices mid-palate getting heavy towards the end. The finish is sweet, flowery alcohol and peppery cloves run amok.

m: Heavy for a saison.

o: I've loved most of their anniversary beers, but this was a miss for me.

Serving type: bottle

06-16-2013 18:30:20 | More by DIM
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dheacck11

Connecticut

4.1/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pour is a nice hazy orange gold. 1/4 finger of off white head fades rapidly, no lacing.

Nose is soft bready yeast with a hint of orange peel and honey. Not that potent.

Taste is full of spice up front. Lots of clove, soft ginger, with some citrus notes of orange and lemon. Finishes with a nice malty sweet yeast. Leaves a lingering breadiness, but gentle.

Feel is a bit thicker and heavier than I would expect for this style, and is appreciated.

Really a delightful saison, a style I don't often love. Really nice balance of spice, yeast, and floral citrus here though.

Serving type: bottle

05-03-2013 00:06:21 | More by dheacck11
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Stunner97

New Jersey

2.7/5  rDev -28.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Appearance- very overally chunky even after even a very slow pour, not sure if product of its age or just how the beer was, golden yellow color with thin white lacing,

Smell- nice malty sweet nose with citrus orange tones

Taste- starts up with little bit of citrus and fruit but really rounds out just being super heavy of spice tones, the spice really over dominated other aspects of flavor

Mouthfeel - light carbonation soft and slick, slight warmth from alcohol

Drink ability /overall- the spice def took off drinability as did some strong alchol at points, overall this beer though not bad was just bit too boozy and off balanced for the style almost came off to me as more of an off balanced triple, I didnt like this better then merry monks if going for that style, any way it wasn't better then average to me

Serving type: bottle

04-24-2013 23:31:54 | More by Stunner97
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JustinAniello

Connecticut

3.03/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A - Pours a straw yellow with plenty of floating particulates and a minimal head, dissipates quickly to no cap and sticky lacing.

S - Heavy yeast and breadiness with citrus, mostly lemon and grapefruit, peeking through.

T - On the tongue a citrus medley that switches between sweet and tart. Changes on the swallow to what I can only presume is the peppercorns, which I find awful. Slight bitterness and a possible metallic aftertaste. Bitterness seems to grow with time.

M - Medium body and carbonation.

O - The one flavor in the middle of the beer kills it for me. Minus that not a bad beer. Will not have again.

Serving type: bottle

04-09-2013 00:37:25 | More by JustinAniello
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Rutager

British Columbia (Canada)

3.61/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Big thank you to Maximum12 for this from a brewery I haven't tried nearly enough of.

Appearance. Pours a hazy straw gold with a skim of white head that quickly fades to a collar.

Smell. Spicy saison yeast, lemon and lime with a little bit of bananas and a trace of coriander and cloves.

Taste. Spicy saison yeast and caramel, some lemon and corriander with a little bananna and clove. Fairly sweet.

Mouthfeel. Medium+ body with medium-low carbonation.

Overall. An easy drinker with plenty of flavour. I prefer my saisons a little dryer, but this is a well made beer.

Serving type: bottle

03-31-2013 00:44:47 | More by Rutager
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NoLeafClover44

Delaware

4.14/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

12 oz, bottle poured into a Weyerbacher tulip. Bottled on 5/30/12.

A - Pours a hazy golden color with plenty of floating particles throughout. Less than a half finger of white head dies to a halo and a film. Leaves behind a nearly full sheet of lace around the glass.

S - Smells of lemon peel, ground cloves, and a little bit of wet hay funk. The funk plays nicely off the big citrus aromas. Cloves provide a spicy floral character that I enjoy.

T - Surprisingly tart upfront, with lemon juice and pear. Some sourdough bread and candied plantain malts follow. The clove spices from the nose are less pronounced, but still present. Some funk and more tartness on the back end. Some leftover lemon juice and bread linger, but no alcohol. This is a very well put together saison, especially given the alcohol content.

M - Spritzy on the tongue with a crisp finish. The alcohol is well hidden.

O - In my opinion, Weyerbacher doesn't make a bad beer. This was my first time trying their 17th anniversary saison, and I was very impressed. A little bit tart, a little bit funky, and no out of place flavors that are often left on the palate in a very high ABV saison. I will hang on to the other bottle I have for another few years and see what happens. I recommend this beer highly.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2013 01:18:52 | More by NoLeafClover44
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MNishCT77

District of Columbia

4.64/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottled purchased from the brewery in Fall 2012, poured into a 3Fs Teku long-stemmed glass, drank 2/26-7/13 over ~one hour.

A: 4.5 - golden coloration, impressive clarity for the high alcohol content, whitish frothy 1 finger head dissipates very quickly into small glass lacing, moderate alcohol legs

S: 4.75 - orange peel, lemon zest, orange peel, lemon zest, orange peel, lemon sext

T: 4.75 -immediate citrus blast, non-cloying, alcohol in reserve, drying aftertaste

M: 4.25 - light-medium body, low carbonation

O: 4.5 - high alcohol content Saison is where it's at, all the flavor with additional bite, if you can find it, I highly recommend it but might even be worth a brewery trip.

Serving type: bottle

02-27-2013 05:33:30 | More by MNishCT77
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Cylinsier

Pennsylvania

4.18/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

12 oz.

Pours hazy orange-tinted citrus gold. White bit of lacing for a head.

Smells of lemon, coriander and oranges.

Spiced orange and apricot with coriander and an herbal grassiness.

Medium to full body with stinging carbonation on the roof of the mouth. Warms a bit going down.

An interesting take on a Saison style, much stronger than you normally get from that. It works well here although it doesn't much hide its strength, so it forces you to go slow. I think this beer probably isn't for everybody, but I personally really like it and would have it again.

Serving type: bottle

01-21-2013 22:42:46 | More by Cylinsier
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wspscott

Kentucky

3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle in Duvel tulip
date: 05/31/12 - 05/31/17

A: Crystal clear gold color with a very thin white head. No lace. A little bit of yeast ended up in the glass with a careful pour.
S: Some peppery spice and a some citrus
T: Definite spiciness along with orange peel, slightly sweet (pils malt with a light crystal malt?). No sign of the alcohol.
M: Rounder than I expect for a saison, the high carbonation helps keep it light on the tongue.
O: More like a Belgian strong ale or a tripel than a saison. A very good beer, but not what I was expecting based on the label. Worth trying if you like belgians.

Serving type: bottle

01-20-2013 00:36:44 | More by wspscott
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Flounder57

Massachusetts

3.8/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle was poured into a tulip.

Appearance: This beer poured a one finger head that has reduced to a thin layer. It is a golden straw yellow with good clarity and bubbles coming up through the glass. There are some floaties throughout the whole beer too. Nice lacing on the glass as the beer was drank.

Smell: Belgian spice, pepper, powder yeast aromas, rosemary, thyme, vanilla, bready notes, and some sweetness.

Taste: All the above aromas with bit more sweetness and a little bit of subtle bitterness too. The spices mellow out quite a bit too.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, light to medium bodied, medium carbonation, and easy to drink.

Overall: A nice Saison that I can add to the collection. I do have my select favorites, but thus can be enjoyed from time to time.

Serving type: bottle

01-09-2013 06:30:00 | More by Flounder57
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match1112

Illinois

3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

a: cloudy yellow orange body, like orange juice. no head what so ever, pours completely flat.

s: big bold citrus aromas, orange, lemon, grapefruit.

t: tastes like a strong screw driver. plenty of orange and alcohol burn with a pepper bite.

m: medium body but completely flat. warming effect from the abv, little burn.

o: the alcohol is hidden better in the nose than on the tongue. wish it had some carbonation. plenty of flavor. too much like a screwdriver to recommend to anybody.

Serving type: bottle

12-31-2012 22:20:17 | More by match1112
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inlimbo77

Delaware

3.73/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz, 2012
Deschutes, tulip

A: Cloudy hazy light orange color. Initially about a half finger of bright white head. Faded into a bright ring of white.

S: Getting lots of citrus still. Most certainly the grapefruit hints. Some orange peel. That pink peppercorn spice is there too if you dig in.

T: First and foremost, those Belgian flavors. Some of that banana like character. Getting citrusy notes first. That grapefruit and orange peel like notes. You get that citrus and that pink peppercorn spice hint too. Then finish is certainly dry. It's a refreshing brew.

M: It's a big medium. Looks thinner than it would seem.

Serving type: bottle

12-27-2012 14:34:49 | More by inlimbo77
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ThePorterSorter

Missouri

4.1/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Finally got around to trying this...
The beer pours a clear sunset orange with a fluffy white head that fades quickly without providing much lacing. There is an tremendous amount of dispersed flecks of sediment, which appears to be the unfiltered spice content! Yes indeed there are tiny, diced particles of the orange/lemon/grapefruit peel and specks of the pink peppercorn oscillating around the bottom of my glass. This is quite a unique finding for the beer's appearance, but I would have liked more of the unfiltered yeast lingering as well. The nose is still very aromatic (despite being several months "aged") with big notes of citrus and yeast followed by a modest amount of alcohol. The taste is similar, but with more sweetness, which helps build up the body and balance out the high alcohol and spice content. The mouthfeel is quite refreshing considering how much is going on with this special beer, like the 10.5%abv and spice content. I'd say it's a bit off balance as the alcohol becomes a bit too pronounced and overpowering when the beer warms. I'll probably try this beer again...although it'll never be my favorite saison.

Serving type: bottle

12-14-2012 23:37:28 | More by ThePorterSorter
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C20Percent

Virginia

4.48/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a hazy pale gold with a white head of foam on top. Head isn't especially bubbly. There's some decent complexity in the unfiltered body. Noticeable pieces of sediment floating throughout the body. And, some nice bubble action too. Good feature.

S: The typical yeasty banana aroma. But, there's some other fruity notes in there. I think it's melon. But, that's kind of it. I've smelled this before -- the proof will be in the taste.

T: Spicy! That's the major flavor here. The taste is soooo complex. The beer first hits with the yeasty banana flavor, and then follows up with a mega spicey peppery flavor. So nice. Refreshing for a high-abv brew. I'd say, as far as saisons and belgians go, this is as good as it gets.

M: And here's why -- so smooth and creamy. How does this not have a bite? Bold carbonation. Warm going down if you shake it up. Medium body. Great feel.

O: I'm not a big belgian ale / saison fan. But, this is top of the totem for me. It doesn't get any better. Nearly perfect brew. No bite. Great flavors. Bravo Weyerbacher!

Serving type: bottle

12-14-2012 22:04:41 | More by C20Percent
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confer

Pennsylvania

3.83/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pale yellow, very murky, lots of carbonation and a pure white fluffy head. Has a tart/funky smell with some hefeweiss yeast in the background. Tart in the taste but the booziness dominates. It doesn't hide the 10+ abv so well.Overall not bad but I think it would be better with a smaller alcohol level.

Serving type: bottle

12-09-2012 20:31:16 | More by confer
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birchstick

Colorado

3.68/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a yellowish orange color with a decent looking head on it. Nose is lots of orange with other citrus flavors coming through, namely lemon. Taste starts off with lemon citrus flavors. These soften up with some orange flavors...a touch of peppery spiciness comes through toward the back. Finishes with more citrusy orange flavors. Very smooth, creamy mouthfeel. Overall, this is a well crafted saison. Although it is about 5% higher than I thought it was, still pretty good drinkability.

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2012 04:09:34 | More by birchstick
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smcolw

Massachusetts

3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Modest head that leaves a minimum amount of spotty lace. Cloudy. Light gold/dark straw color.

Sour aroma of sitting malts. There's a touch of bittering hop smell at the end.

The flavor starts sour but ends with a strong pepper finish. The aftertaste is surprisingly short. Full body for the style.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2012 02:28:47 | More by smcolw
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fmccormi

New York

3.6/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Straight pour from 12oz pry-off bottle to a 25cl Duvel Single tulip; bottling date of May 30, 2012 and a freshness date of May 30, 2017 printed in black ink on the shoulder of the bottle (“053012 053017”), so about five and a half months old on the date of consumption.

Appearance (2.5): Half a finger of rapidly diminishing head that’s slightly off-white comes off the pour, capping a glowing honey-orange body which is nicely hazy but not cloudy—very, very pretty. Essentially no head retention, just a thin ring around the edge of the glass on the surface of the body and almost no lacing, just a couple of stray suds here and there. Attractive body, terrible head.

Smell (4.0): The aroma’s basically a cross between a classic saison and a BSPA: clove, grains of paradise, and some white and black pepper underneath; boozy fruits, like pears and brandy with stewed apples. Candied orange peel, and some pale, grainy malt character rounds out the nose. Considering the size and composition of this beer, it’s pretty nice.

Taste (3.5): Kind of everything going on in the nose, but intensified on all counts: much spicier, much boozier, much fruity-sweeter, and all around just much more. There’s a ton going on: the spicy yeast character finishes with a spicy, grassy twang, capping off a boozy, slightly hot slurry of overripe fruit (bananas, poached pears, stewed apples again), brandy, slightly biscuity pale grain malts, toasted multigrain bread, and some fruitcake. This isn’t a saison, it’s more of a heavy, boozy BSPA with some rustic farmhouse spiciness. That said, it’s pretty tasty in its own right.

Mouthfeel (4.0): Light, prickly carbonation gives way to a very soft, lush, smoothly foaming body that goes down very, very nicely. Moderately syrupy feel and medium-full bodied, but finishes with a mild dryness due in no small part to the vaporous booze character on the backend. Again, it’s not really a saison in mouthfeel, but it’s not unpleasant in its own right—actually feels pretty nice, along the heavy BSPA vein of Belgian-style beers.

Overall (3.5): To be honest, I enjoy this beer well enough in its own right, but it’s not a great example of a saison. That said, I would grade this more along the lines of a BSPA, but even following those standards it’s a bit heavy-handed and overly exuberant in all the shit that’s going on here. It’s good, but it doesn’t all come off with a natural feel. Good effort, interesting brew and worth a try, but I probably won’t seek it out again.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2012 00:43:34 | More by fmccormi
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PhantasIPA

Delaware

4.33/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer has a a very light, golden color that is very cloudy. There is pretty much no head or lacing to speak of.

The smell begins with the citrus flavors of lemon and grapefruit followed by the odd, malty scents that the beer has. Very hard to identify the malts but the last thing you smell is the fuming ABV (10.5%).

The taste is really unique, very different! It starts with a light, crisp, citrus flavor. This is immediately followed by the hint of malts (hint is an overstatement) and then BOOM! This beer carries a heavy ABV but the percentage does not do the burn justice. Really heavy burn that carries the entire flavor with it. The best of any burn you can get!

Mouthfeel is strange, in a good way though. Not too carbonated but the citrus is like a fake before the heavy malt and the even heavier alcohol volume.

Overall this beer is very unique and has an interesting combination/mixture of flavors. The balance of these flavors is not that great but this weakness is over come buy the snowflake like quality of the brew in general...plus the 10.5% ABV makes this brew worthwhile any time!

Serving type: bottle

11-11-2012 18:20:59 | More by PhantasIPA
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SadMachine

New Jersey

4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes from 8/1/12

A- One finger head dissipates quickly over the hazy golden body.

S- Aroma is pleasant barnyard smell with spices and a bit of breadiness coming through.

T- This is my first Saison, so I'm not sure what to be looking for. The citrus is a bit surprising, while the spice and breadiness is expected after smelling it.

M- A medium to thick mouthfeel and smooth finish.

O- This is pleasant and desirable to drink again.

Serving type: bottle

11-10-2012 17:50:22 | More by SadMachine
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rajendra82

Georgia

4.18/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cloudy, golden amber colored body, was nice to look at. There wasn't a big head, as it rose up to one finger thick at most, and then died down fairly quickly. The smell had a lot of citric character, which is understandable considering the use of grapefruit, lemon, and orange peel. There was also a hint of floral hops. The first taste is where this beer really started to excel for me. There was an explosion of sweet and citric flavors as soon as the beer touched my tongue, and as I swallowed it, there was a lingering spicy-herbal finish with a slight numbing sensation, which I suspect resulted from the pink peppercorns. The body was medium dense, which is pretty typical for a Saison. I wish that the beer was more carbonated, as it would have improved the feel significantly. Although the spices used are unusual, this was a typical sweetish Saison.

Serving type: bottle

11-10-2012 02:28:45 | More by rajendra82
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Seventeen from Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 249 ratings.