Seventeen - Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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Ratings: 275
Reviews: 86
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 13.56%
Wants: 11
Gots: 28 | FT: 0
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Weyerbacher Brewing Co. visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Rifugium on 06-02-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Sammy
3.43/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cloudy golden looks, with a minimal ring of a head, Bush glass. Booze exuded in the aroma. Above average mouthfeel, at first I am getting a strong ale/barleywine, at finish I am getting a grapefruit kiss. Decent drinkability, stronger funkier Belgian yeast at the end of the bottle. Maybe there is some grains of pepper, but overrun by the above flavours.

Photo of kylehay2004
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Single finger head on a cloudy golden body. Lots of banana citrus, corriander and grain. Perfect degree of sweetness. Flavor start musty with malts, herbs, corriander and light lemon sweetness in the finish. Medium body and moderate to high carbonation. I very nice saison. The aftertaste lingers and becomes a little sour and funky but otherwise very good.

Photo of metter98
3.82/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is hazy golden yellow in color and has a light to moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a finger high white head that quickly died down, leaving a thin film of bubbles on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: There are sweet aromas of banana and candi sugar in the nose along with notes of spices.
T: Like the smell, the taste has some malty sweetness with flavors of bananas. Peppery spices are noticeable in the finish.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. There is some dryness in the finish.
O: The taste and strength of this beer make it seem much more like a tripel instead of a saison. It definitely tastes strong but the alcohol is relatively well masked considering its strength. Nevertheless, it is a beer that needs to be slowly sipped.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy hay color ale with a large foamy head with minimal retention and not much lacing. Aroma consists of coriander and orange/lemon peel with quite a bit of residual sugar. Taste is also dominated by a mix of spices including coriander with some orange and lemon peel which are balanced against a huge malt backbone with quite a bit of residual sugar. Body is quite full with limited filtration and medium carbonation with no apparent alcohol. This beer is so big that it almost falls into the BSA category. I would probably have liked it better if it had traded some alcohol and sugar for additional attenuation which in turn would have provided more rooms for the spices to come out.

Photo of Knapp85
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured out as a nice looking bright yellow color color, the head was fizzy and white. Not much retention or lacing on this one. The smell of the beer has a nice fresh grainy, herbal/spiced aroma to it. The taste of the beer had some nice spicy notes to it and well has the sweetness of the grains in there too. The mouthfeel of the beer was clean and crisp feeling with a little bit of heat in the finish from the ABV. Overall it's a really interesting Saison to say the least. I found it enjoyable, wouldn't buy a case but it was nice to try.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.33/5  rDev -38%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 ounce bottle - $2.79 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a clouded, pale gold body with a small, thinning, essentially white head.

Smell: Sweetish, ethanol-laced wheat malt sitting atop squelched notes of varied citrus rinds and peppery spices.

Taste: Malted wheat with a light pinch of powdered sugar. Some initial floral tones (until the numbing alcohol kicks in), but that's right around when the citrus peelings roll in. Spicy, peppery qualities from the yeast, presumably from the alcohol as well, and the peppercorns, with a lingering spiciness beyond the full finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium carbonation.

Overall: "Seventeen weighs in at a style-obliterating 10.5% abv." It also destroyed my patience right off the bat. Harsh, flabby, boozy. Happy Anniversary.

Photo of jlindros
3.65/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light fizzy head covering typical of a beer with this abv, over hazy carrot orange colored beer.

Nose brings floral spices, almost ancient ale like spices or a strong Belgian tripel, coriander like, hint of a peppercorn almost, lots of wheat hefe like aromas as well with the coriander and clove almost, banana, plenty of citrus zest with orange and hint of lemon like, and the malts are more wheat based with hints of a malty saison rustic aroma, some light blood orange and clementine like.

Taste starts again with a hefe like flavor, but citrus fruit flavors as well. Juicy wheats, lots of wheat, with lots of citrus fruits, blood orange, clementine, hint of a pink grapefruit as well. Then spices, light spices overall, but fairly saison like with hints of a light peppercorn, hint of coriander and slightly clove like, as well as citrus peel, light orange and lemon zest even. The zest brings a decent bitterness, but nagging bitterness, and a light chalky like taste as well which is kinda weird. Light yeasty dry bready malt as well. Just a light warming booze which is hidden well. Finish is slightly dry and decent lingering bitterness, lots of orange zest, lemon peel, blood orange juice lingering, lots of wheat and hefe like spices also last a while.

Mouth is med bodied, decent carb but not as much as I hoped, light warming booze that is hidden fairly well.

Overall not bad, almost like a very strong hefe blended with blood orange juice, light spices, zest, and some saison flavors, booze is hidden well, a good summer beer but overall not quite what I was expecting from a Weyerbacher beer, too much of various flavors blended together and don't seem to mesh as well as you would expect.

Photo of Rifugium
3.68/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Barcade, Philly, PA

Served in a goblet, an impenetrably hazy golden yellow color with a thin cap of white-yellow head; moderate retention and lacing. Aroma was pretty light, essence of citrus zest, and peppery spice, Belgian yeast and a bit of funk. Taste reflected the aroma, with notes of lemon and grapefruit, bready yeast, peppery spice, grassy funk, quite earthy...all the classic makings of a good saison were there, but it was still lacking a bit in the flavor department I thought. Light-medium mouthfeel, and definitely easily drinkable. Nothing amazing here, but I was definitely happy to get a chance to try it before it's gone.

Photo of smcolw
3.55/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Modest head that leaves a minimum amount of spotty lace. Cloudy. Light gold/dark straw color.

Sour aroma of sitting malts. There's a touch of bittering hop smell at the end.

The flavor starts sour but ends with a strong pepper finish. The aftertaste is surprisingly short. Full body for the style.

Photo of dbrauneis
3.58/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours an extremely cloudy (almost milky) glowing golden straw yellow in color. The beer has a half finger tall fizzy white head that quickly reduces to a small patch of extremely thin film and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Minimal lacing is observed.

S: Light to moderate aromas of citrus zest (both lemon and orange), sweet orange citrus, candi sugar, and some spicy yeast notes. Very light hints of alcohol.

T: There is a light amount of candi sugar sweetness along with citrus (orange) and citrus zest (lemon and orange). There is a pretty heavy amount of spicy yeast notes and some light amounts of alcohol.

M: On the fuller side of medium bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Chewy.

O: Not the easiest beer to drink as the high ABV is not as well hidden as I would have appreciated. I like the spicy notes from the yeast but would have like just a hint of the barnyard funk I have come to expect in the style.

Photo of tdm168
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to jtd1969 for bringing this to the tasting.

A - bright yellow with little head

S - banana, clove

T - lemon, banana, clove

M - over carbonated, crisp, light to medium bodied

This is an alright Saison. For 10.50% it doesn't have great body, but the alcohol isn't as prevalent as one would anticipate. The flavor and aroma are simple and one-dimensional. Overall, a decent beer but boring. I'll pass in the future.

Photo of BARFLYB
3.11/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On Tap at Old Eagle Tavern.

Served in a ten ounce portion, this 'super saison' pours out a deep dark golden look with some burnt orange in between. There is some depth in the look as it is not entirely clear, cant see through the glass. By the time it got to me, there was a off white skim on top, leaving nothing. Smell is pretty earthy with grassy notes and some weird musky scents. Some floral notes and a whiff of alcohol. Orange comes to mind and some weird spicing going on. All in all, weird. Taste leaves where the nose leaves me, what exactly is this. Tastes include a variation of Merry Monk's yeast or perhaps some more of it. Earthy hop flavor, grassy notes,Some Belgian sweet flavor with orange, alcohol, and deep plum. The peppercorns are throwing me off though. Feel is bigger than medium with less and less carb as time goes by. Some warming which really should not happen in a saison, but this is 10 plus percent, which I think is the problem, to much for it's own good. One glass was more than plenty for me.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Seventeen
Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale
ABV: 10.50 %

APPEARANCE: Pours light gold with a chill haze, a little bit of sediment. A ring of wispy head forms and stays in a ring. Looks like a Belgian brew.

SMELL: Belgian yeast chimes in with white pepper, bubble gum, clove and banana. Wheat malt is apparent right away. Grassy hops are there but subdued.

TASTE: Fruity yeast with some banana, bubble gum and cotton candy notes. Mostly sweet with a very faint suggestion of hops. There is a small but noticeable spice from the green peppercorns used in brewing. Lemony citrus with some notes of orange and grapefruit. Still, very wheaty with a always present banana-bubblegum-clove note. Very little funk for a saison, but overall still tasty, and the alcohol is well hidden.

FEEL: Medium bodied, medium carbonation, lingering citrus/bubblegum finish.

OVERALL: An interesting take on a saison. I like the bigness of this beer, and the flavors really do pop. Definitely has a big wheat presence. It is a little sweet, and a bit more funk or some acidity would go a long way here. Not sure what cellaring would do, this is drinking pretty nice right now.

Photo of billab914
3.54/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into my CBS snifter. Light orange in color with a thin, spotty head scattered across the top of the beer and concentrating around the edges of the glass.

The aroma has a strong presence of lemon zest and orange peel with a touch of bitter grapefruit citrus. The Belgian yeast spice is also playing a pretty big role in it. It's got a bit of a sweeter, almost honey like flavor to it as well.

The taste shows the yeast spice a little more prominently throughout. The citrus rind flavors are there as well giving it some lemon and orange zest. The finish is bitter with some grapefruit mixing in with yeast spices.

The mouthfeel is heavy for the style with carbonation being low. Overall, it was a pretty decent beer. It hid the abv very well and the flavors were pretty good. I'm not really sure the size and heavy feeling of the beer did it any favors though either. The refreshing, easy drinking qualities are usually the main reason I want to drink the style. It wasn't bad at all, but I think I'd choose something else in the style with half the alcohol content over it.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.57/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into an Allagash chalice. Bottled 5/29/12.

Appearance - Clear golden body. Not much of a head. Not much left but a ring of foam and some lonely wisps of bubbles.

Smell - Lemony hops at first sniff. Smells like sorachi ace hops. Yeasty on further analysis. Banana and some esters. Fruity and maybe a little herbal in the back. Sweet and heavy smelling, it should be noted.

Taste - Less hoppy. Sweet. Bananas. The spiciness comes in the finish. Peppercorns are noticeable. It's pretty herbal in the finish, too. Too sweet, though. I'd like it to be lighter.

Mouthfeel - Heavy and sweet. Well carbonated, which helps. Definitely easier to drink when cold.

Overall - Good, well spiced, and some nice flavors. The bananas aren't my favorite flavor in a saison. Neither is the overpowering sweetness.

Photo of Lare453
3.72/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a dfh glass

A yellow with a tiny hint or orange, small, fast dissipating white head. Very hazy.

S overpowering pepper. Light citrus, light hops... Mostly pepper.

T light beginning, with a bold citrus middle and an overpowering pepper ending. The aftertaste is also peppery with a light boozyness. The high alcohol is not detected at all, which is always impressive.

M a little more than thin, light carbonation. Almost smooth.

O a good and different beer. I would drink it again but I am going to wait a while to open another.

Photo of tobelerone
4.08/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Another very nice anniversary offering from Weyerbacher. A hazy, pale gold beer with a fluffy white head that settles slowly and strong lacing. Nose packs lots of citrus and tropical fruit aroma with some general Belgian-style yeastiness and the accompanying spice notes you’d expect. Cloves and pepper really pop out.

Flavor pretty much follows the nose. The beer is brewed with grapefruit, lemon, and orange peel so it’s no surprise there is a lot of citrus zing to it as well as some appealing bitterness from both the hops and the fruit. Light pith and aspirin notes, mild sweetness. Lots of spice and yeast character, the peppercorns really come out in the finish and provide a gentle tingle on the tongue. Really well balanced between all of the elements and that subtle, emerging peppery note ties it all together nicely.

Crisp feel on a medium body beer; lively carbonation; dry finish. Drinks clean, with absolutely no trace of the 10.5% ABV. Where did that go? Feels like it’s half that.

EDIT: I read the other reviews after writing mine. I've heard about batch variation issues, and Weyerbacher's in particular recently, but this is wild. Chewy and boozy? My bottle was the opposite of this. Booze was nowhere, and carbonation was crisp. Quite a refresher and one that felt right on in terms of body and carbonation for a Saison. Very odd. It can't just be perception. Flavors and aromas are one thing but carbonation and heft are much more concrete and straightforward.

Photo of SadMachine
4.01/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes from 8/1/12

A- One finger head dissipates quickly over the hazy golden body.

S- Aroma is pleasant barnyard smell with spices and a bit of breadiness coming through.

T- This is my first Saison, so I'm not sure what to be looking for. The citrus is a bit surprising, while the spice and breadiness is expected after smelling it.

M- A medium to thick mouthfeel and smooth finish.

O- This is pleasant and desirable to drink again.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.62/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This one almost passed over the radar. Grabbed a single from the House of 1,000 beers for 4 bucks (a tad expensive but it's the only place I found it.

A - As expected it's a hazy amber in hue and for the ABV it's low in carbonation with a mere lace ring. It looks sticky though.

S - Smells fairly good for a Saison. Belgium yeasts, wheat, coriander, white pepper, and quite a bit of alcohol.

T - Ow damn the ABV is cloying as hell. A strong yet semi-balanced alcohol taste carries over mild waves of coriander spice, lemon like zest, and a touch of banana. Halfway though the glass the wheat thankfully comes into play balanced the ridiculous ABV of this beer but it's too little too late.

M - Heavy a sipper for sure.

Overall I am not really planning on getting this again and really as unimpressed with this as the 16th (braggot) Hopefully next years release with be a high octane stout since these releases are ridiculously high ABV.

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.25/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

12 oz bottle courtesy of mwrecording pours a hazed orange color with a thin cap of white head. Not much for retention or lace.

Nose is tropical fruity and spiced up like a mutha. Overpower the spice and hops, little bit of alcohol, not much else.

Rustic, farmhouse saison this is not. Taste is really tropical, both from the alcohol and rampant yeast. Not overly pleasant as the spices just further separate this beer from its stylistic roots. Its not a bad beer, but more of a tripel than a saison to me and I am not a fan of spice additions in a saison. Bad saison, average beer and falls in the lower tier of Weyerbacher Anniversary beers.

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.18/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours a glowing honey hue. Head is tiny. Barely a full film atop the beer. The beer glows but is shockingly quite hazy. Light lacing.

S-A deep, concentrated yeastiness. Bananas soaked in liquor. Definitely boozy. Herbaceous and spicy. Smells very robust.

T-A big ass Saison.Expressive yeastiness.Long alcoholic bite. Bananas and pepper and cloves. Syrupy sweetness and a lingering herbal quality.

M-Syrupy with a low carbonation level. A bit cloying with a considerable bite.

O/D-I now see why most Farmhouse Ales aren't such a high alcohol level. The flavors (especially the yeast) are turned up too high. But all-in-all, this was well worth trying at a decent pice ($3.00 a 12oz. single). Just a cool brew that is far from perfect but worth experimenting with.

Photo of thagr81us
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served from tap into a Trappe Door tulip. Poured a hazy golden yellow with a two finger white head that subsided to a minimal amount very slowly. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, banana, spice, earth, fruit, and fruit hop. The flavor was of sweet malt, banana, spice, earth, fruit, fruit hop, and earth hop. It had a light feel on the palate with medium-high carbonation. Overall this was a fairly good brew. I went into this brew not really expecting too much at all if I’m honest. However what I found was actually quite nice and well balanced. This was a nicely complex brew where everything seemed to work in unison with each other and kept your palate intrigued throughout each sip. Doing all of this while still be refreshing was the kicker. Definitely a must try for any fan of the style or the curious alike.

Photo of Brenden
3.5/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew is a lightly clouded pale yellow verging toward gold with lots of brightness. The head, almost pure white, fades from about half a finger to a thick foam that leaves a thinner ring at the top with spotting below.
The aroma has plenty of heat, but it's not face-exploding considering it's a generally soft style over 10%. It's a bit heady, though, considering. It does have some peppery notes and a bit of earth, lots of spiciness and sweetness just short of cloying. Lots of citrus, mostly rind in the aroma, adds an element. Weyerbacher may have tried to overload a style that shouldn't be, but it works out better than I'd think.
Along with must, spiciness and earth, as well as booze-soaked banana, the citrus adds a tangy lemon note as well as orange and lemon peel. Lots of all kinds of fruits are all over the place, largely due to the huge esters. A bite of pepper stays on the tongue after the finish.
Where it's too big shows mainly in the feel. Somehow it's kept together and doesn't stray into territory too bizarre, but its nearly full body is a bit too thick. Smooth, yes, and crisp, yes, just a little too much overall.

Photo of ColForbinBC
3.93/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle

Pours a hazy glowing orange with a sturdy one+ finger ecru cap. Great retention, big sip marks line the glass.

The aroma is sweet citrus and spice. Grapefruit peel seems to stand out the most, with lemon peel and orange peel coming in second and third. Spicy peppercorns, bubble gum, and a bit of acetone round out the nose.

Sweetness prevails. Grapefruit and bubble gum wrap around the palate before a rush of orange and tart lemon. Peppercorns burst through in the finish, mixing with acetone/ethanol, sweet fruit, and bubble gum.

Medium feel with mild carbonation. There's some heft to this beer. It has a billowy feel to it. Lush and creamy.

A very nice saison with well-rounded fruit flavors and an extra spicy kick from the peppercorns. I will seek this out again.

Photo of OWSLEY069
4.52/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Pours a hazy yellow color with an off white head. In the aroma, citrus rind, especially grapefruit. In the taste, grapefruit and orange citrus rind, peppery end, yet still sweet. A spice bite and a medium bodied mouthfeel, with a dry grapefruit citrus in the the aftertaste. Big citrus, small spice, nice alcohol, and quite super!

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Seventeen from Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 275 ratings.