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Seventeen - Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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Reviews: 86
Hads: 276
rAvg: 3.73
pDev: 11.53%
Wants: 11
Gots: 29 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Weyerbacher Brewing Co. visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Rifugium on 06-02-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 86 | Hads: 276
Photo of C20Percent
4.41/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a hazy pale gold with a white head of foam on top. Head isn't especially bubbly. There's some decent complexity in the unfiltered body. Noticeable pieces of sediment floating throughout the body. And, some nice bubble action too. Good feature.

S: The typical yeasty banana aroma. But, there's some other fruity notes in there. I think it's melon. But, that's kind of it. I've smelled this before -- the proof will be in the taste.

T: Spicy! That's the major flavor here. The taste is soooo complex. The beer first hits with the yeasty banana flavor, and then follows up with a mega spicey peppery flavor. So nice. Refreshing for a high-abv brew. I'd say, as far as saisons and belgians go, this is as good as it gets.

M: And here's why -- so smooth and creamy. How does this not have a bite? Bold carbonation. Warm going down if you shake it up. Medium body. Great feel.

O: I'm not a big belgian ale / saison fan. But, this is top of the totem for me. It doesn't get any better. Nearly perfect brew. No bite. Great flavors. Bravo Weyerbacher! (1,055 characters)

Photo of confer
3.87/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pale yellow, very murky, lots of carbonation and a pure white fluffy head. Has a tart/funky smell with some hefeweiss yeast in the background. Tart in the taste but the booziness dominates. It doesn't hide the 10+ abv so well.Overall not bad but I think it would be better with a smaller alcohol level. (302 characters)

Photo of birchstick
3.67/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a yellowish orange color with a decent looking head on it. Nose is lots of orange with other citrus flavors coming through, namely lemon. Taste starts off with lemon citrus flavors. These soften up with some orange flavors...a touch of peppery spiciness comes through toward the back. Finishes with more citrusy orange flavors. Very smooth, creamy mouthfeel. Overall, this is a well crafted saison. Although it is about 5% higher than I thought it was, still pretty good drinkability. (490 characters)

Photo of smcolw
3.55/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Modest head that leaves a minimum amount of spotty lace. Cloudy. Light gold/dark straw color.

Sour aroma of sitting malts. There's a touch of bittering hop smell at the end.

The flavor starts sour but ends with a strong pepper finish. The aftertaste is surprisingly short. Full body for the style. (299 characters)

Photo of fmccormi
3.61/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Straight pour from 12oz pry-off bottle to a 25cl Duvel Single tulip; bottling date of May 30, 2012 and a freshness date of May 30, 2017 printed in black ink on the shoulder of the bottle (“053012 053017”), so about five and a half months old on the date of consumption.

Appearance (2.5): Half a finger of rapidly diminishing head that’s slightly off-white comes off the pour, capping a glowing honey-orange body which is nicely hazy but not cloudy—very, very pretty. Essentially no head retention, just a thin ring around the edge of the glass on the surface of the body and almost no lacing, just a couple of stray suds here and there. Attractive body, terrible head.

Smell (4.0): The aroma’s basically a cross between a classic saison and a BSPA: clove, grains of paradise, and some white and black pepper underneath; boozy fruits, like pears and brandy with stewed apples. Candied orange peel, and some pale, grainy malt character rounds out the nose. Considering the size and composition of this beer, it’s pretty nice.

Taste (3.5): Kind of everything going on in the nose, but intensified on all counts: much spicier, much boozier, much fruity-sweeter, and all around just much more. There’s a ton going on: the spicy yeast character finishes with a spicy, grassy twang, capping off a boozy, slightly hot slurry of overripe fruit (bananas, poached pears, stewed apples again), brandy, slightly biscuity pale grain malts, toasted multigrain bread, and some fruitcake. This isn’t a saison, it’s more of a heavy, boozy BSPA with some rustic farmhouse spiciness. That said, it’s pretty tasty in its own right.

Mouthfeel (4.0): Light, prickly carbonation gives way to a very soft, lush, smoothly foaming body that goes down very, very nicely. Moderately syrupy feel and medium-full bodied, but finishes with a mild dryness due in no small part to the vaporous booze character on the backend. Again, it’s not really a saison in mouthfeel, but it’s not unpleasant in its own right—actually feels pretty nice, along the heavy BSPA vein of Belgian-style beers.

Overall (3.5): To be honest, I enjoy this beer well enough in its own right, but it’s not a great example of a saison. That said, I would grade this more along the lines of a BSPA, but even following those standards it’s a bit heavy-handed and overly exuberant in all the shit that’s going on here. It’s good, but it doesn’t all come off with a natural feel. Good effort, interesting brew and worth a try, but I probably won’t seek it out again. (2,550 characters)

Photo of PhantasIPA
4.3/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer has a a very light, golden color that is very cloudy. There is pretty much no head or lacing to speak of.

The smell begins with the citrus flavors of lemon and grapefruit followed by the odd, malty scents that the beer has. Very hard to identify the malts but the last thing you smell is the fuming ABV (10.5%).

The taste is really unique, very different! It starts with a light, crisp, citrus flavor. This is immediately followed by the hint of malts (hint is an overstatement) and then BOOM! This beer carries a heavy ABV but the percentage does not do the burn justice. Really heavy burn that carries the entire flavor with it. The best of any burn you can get!

Mouthfeel is strange, in a good way though. Not too carbonated but the citrus is like a fake before the heavy malt and the even heavier alcohol volume.

Overall this beer is very unique and has an interesting combination/mixture of flavors. The balance of these flavors is not that great but this weakness is over come buy the snowflake like quality of the brew in general...plus the 10.5% ABV makes this brew worthwhile any time! (1,108 characters)

Photo of SadMachine
4.01/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes from 8/1/12

A- One finger head dissipates quickly over the hazy golden body.

S- Aroma is pleasant barnyard smell with spices and a bit of breadiness coming through.

T- This is my first Saison, so I'm not sure what to be looking for. The citrus is a bit surprising, while the spice and breadiness is expected after smelling it.

M- A medium to thick mouthfeel and smooth finish.

O- This is pleasant and desirable to drink again. (451 characters)

Photo of rajendra82
4.15/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cloudy, golden amber colored body, was nice to look at. There wasn't a big head, as it rose up to one finger thick at most, and then died down fairly quickly. The smell had a lot of citric character, which is understandable considering the use of grapefruit, lemon, and orange peel. There was also a hint of floral hops. The first taste is where this beer really started to excel for me. There was an explosion of sweet and citric flavors as soon as the beer touched my tongue, and as I swallowed it, there was a lingering spicy-herbal finish with a slight numbing sensation, which I suspect resulted from the pink peppercorns. The body was medium dense, which is pretty typical for a Saison. I wish that the beer was more carbonated, as it would have improved the feel significantly. Although the spices used are unusual, this was a typical sweetish Saison. (858 characters)

Photo of prototypic
3.38/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Seventeen pours a lighter gold color. It’s definitely hazy. There are a lot of yeasty particles swimming about. I was even careful with the pour. Backlighting gives it a brighter, yellow-ish look. A soft white head sits on top. It’s rather modest, only rising to about a finger in height. It’s quick to recede, leaving a very light, spotty coat of lace clinging to the glass.

The nose is weak and surprisingly average. It really needs more strength. It kicks off with a malty, sweet smell. It has a strong sugary scent. Belgian yeast is noted and adds a blend of spicy notes. Clove and pepper are the most notable. It does have some light, citric fruit notes and an interesting honey note. It is earthy, grainy, and slightly herbal. Alcohol is definitely in there. Smells a bit strong for a Saison. Eh. For the style, it’s average.

The flavor is a little better. It does have a strong malt base and is very sugary. It’s a bit sweet for me. Belgian yeast is noted. It adds spicy flavors of clove and pepper. Spice esters are abundant. Coriander and orange peel are also noted. It is earthy, grainy, and herbal throughout. There is a light, citric grapefruit note and a bit of a honey flavor. Those aspects are interesting, but don’t improve the flavor much. Alcohol is there and is a bit strong for the style. It’s not quite warm or hot, but it is too prevalent. Finishes malty, sweet, and spicy.

Seventeen has a medium body. Carbonation is rather light and restrained. It has a pretty good feel, but won’t be confused with any authentic Belgians. Drinkability is okay, but suffers a bit from its size and sweetness.

Weyerbacher did an okay job with Seventeen, but it’s not among the best of its anniversary series. Its biggest problems are that it’s just too big for the style and it’s too sweet. That probably makes it sound worse than it is. It’s alright. Definitely worth grabbing a bottle. (1,924 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.33/5  rDev -37.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 ounce bottle - $2.79 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a clouded, pale gold body with a small, thinning, essentially white head.

Smell: Sweetish, ethanol-laced wheat malt sitting atop squelched notes of varied citrus rinds and peppery spices.

Taste: Malted wheat with a light pinch of powdered sugar. Some initial floral tones (until the numbing alcohol kicks in), but that's right around when the citrus peelings roll in. Spicy, peppery qualities from the yeast, presumably from the alcohol as well, and the peppercorns, with a lingering spiciness beyond the full finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium carbonation.

Overall: "Seventeen weighs in at a style-obliterating 10.5% abv." It also destroyed my patience right off the bat. Harsh, flabby, boozy. Happy Anniversary. (813 characters)

Photo of thagr81us
3.97/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served from tap into a Trappe Door tulip. Poured a hazy golden yellow with a two finger white head that subsided to a minimal amount very slowly. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, banana, spice, earth, fruit, and fruit hop. The flavor was of sweet malt, banana, spice, earth, fruit, fruit hop, and earth hop. It had a light feel on the palate with medium-high carbonation. Overall this was a fairly good brew. I went into this brew not really expecting too much at all if I’m honest. However what I found was actually quite nice and well balanced. This was a nicely complex brew where everything seemed to work in unison with each other and kept your palate intrigued throughout each sip. Doing all of this while still be refreshing was the kicker. Definitely a must try for any fan of the style or the curious alike. (869 characters)

Photo of Lare453
3.72/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a dfh glass

A yellow with a tiny hint or orange, small, fast dissipating white head. Very hazy.

S overpowering pepper. Light citrus, light hops... Mostly pepper.

T light beginning, with a bold citrus middle and an overpowering pepper ending. The aftertaste is also peppery with a light boozyness. The high alcohol is not detected at all, which is always impressive.

M a little more than thin, light carbonation. Almost smooth.

O a good and different beer. I would drink it again but I am going to wait a while to open another. (548 characters)

Photo of ummswimmin
4.05/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The look is a hazy orange-yellow coloring. Looks just like a saison should look.

In the nose I definitely get that sour smell you would expect from a saison. I also smell some bubblegum, and I can pick up the peppercorns at the edges. I was surprised that I couldn't pick up any citrus.

The flavor really brings out the horse-blanket taste. I finally get the lemon in each sip, but there wasn't much there from the grapefruit or orange.

The peppercorns don't come out in the flavor. However, you really feel their presence in the back of my throat.

Seventeen was an interesting experience. I'm glad I was able to pick up a bottle. (634 characters)

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.97/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Seventeen
Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale
ABV: 10.50 %

APPEARANCE: Pours light gold with a chill haze, a little bit of sediment. A ring of wispy head forms and stays in a ring. Looks like a Belgian brew.

SMELL: Belgian yeast chimes in with white pepper, bubble gum, clove and banana. Wheat malt is apparent right away. Grassy hops are there but subdued.

TASTE: Fruity yeast with some banana, bubble gum and cotton candy notes. Mostly sweet with a very faint suggestion of hops. There is a small but noticeable spice from the green peppercorns used in brewing. Lemony citrus with some notes of orange and grapefruit. Still, very wheaty with a always present banana-bubblegum-clove note. Very little funk for a saison, but overall still tasty, and the alcohol is well hidden.

FEEL: Medium bodied, medium carbonation, lingering citrus/bubblegum finish.

OVERALL: An interesting take on a saison. I like the bigness of this beer, and the flavors really do pop. Definitely has a big wheat presence. It is a little sweet, and a bit more funk or some acidity would go a long way here. Not sure what cellaring would do, this is drinking pretty nice right now. (1,178 characters)

Photo of beerbully
4.03/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into tall glass

A-Hazy yellow big white fluffy head that lingers for a while leaving thick lacing

S-banana, clove, candi sugar,

T-follows the nose, banana, clove, sweet, a bit boozy, faint pepper

M-crisp,decent carbonation, a bit fizzy

O-solid brew, not a knockout but a good sunday brunch brew (307 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy hay color ale with a large foamy head with minimal retention and not much lacing. Aroma consists of coriander and orange/lemon peel with quite a bit of residual sugar. Taste is also dominated by a mix of spices including coriander with some orange and lemon peel which are balanced against a huge malt backbone with quite a bit of residual sugar. Body is quite full with limited filtration and medium carbonation with no apparent alcohol. This beer is so big that it almost falls into the BSA category. I would probably have liked it better if it had traded some alcohol and sugar for additional attenuation which in turn would have provided more rooms for the spices to come out. (704 characters)

Photo of facundoCNB
3.75/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

a murky yellow-orange pour with a finger of head which quickly dissipated.

smells of apples, bread yeast, pepper, orange peel. the taste is much sweeter than the scents, very fruit heavy - orange, pepper spice, herbal earth flavors hit the palate strongly. alcohol flavor is well masked.

medium body, nicely carbonated, creamy feel on lips, boozy warmth.

overall this is a nice beer - nothing honestly too special considering some of the brewery's year round beers are better than this. (489 characters)

Photo of pvo
4.46/5  rDev +19.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Great. I feel like most anniversary beers are ways for brewers to put out an exoeriment that they've really put a lot of effort into, and that effort shows here. A well-balanced beer, especially considering that it's over 10% abv, with lasting flavor.

Some people would take issue with this being a summery beer that has such a high alcohol content, but that view somewhat misses the point- this is an american version of a classic style, so you have to expect that, for better or worse, it's going to be stronger in abv and flavor.

The only thing lacking here is the smell, of which there is not much. Especially for a saison, this has a lasting flavor and full mouthfeel, which again might not be true for the style, but works well for an American brewery's anniversary beer. (780 characters)

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.18/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours a glowing honey hue. Head is tiny. Barely a full film atop the beer. The beer glows but is shockingly quite hazy. Light lacing.

S-A deep, concentrated yeastiness. Bananas soaked in liquor. Definitely boozy. Herbaceous and spicy. Smells very robust.

T-A big ass Saison.Expressive yeastiness.Long alcoholic bite. Bananas and pepper and cloves. Syrupy sweetness and a lingering herbal quality.

M-Syrupy with a low carbonation level. A bit cloying with a considerable bite.

O/D-I now see why most Farmhouse Ales aren't such a high alcohol level. The flavors (especially the yeast) are turned up too high. But all-in-all, this was well worth trying at a decent pice ($3.00 a 12oz. single). Just a cool brew that is far from perfect but worth experimenting with. (771 characters)

Photo of metter98
3.82/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is hazy golden yellow in color and has a light to moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a finger high white head that quickly died down, leaving a thin film of bubbles on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: There are sweet aromas of banana and candi sugar in the nose along with notes of spices.
T: Like the smell, the taste has some malty sweetness with flavors of bananas. Peppery spices are noticeable in the finish.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. There is some dryness in the finish.
O: The taste and strength of this beer make it seem much more like a tripel instead of a saison. It definitely tastes strong but the alcohol is relatively well masked considering its strength. Nevertheless, it is a beer that needs to be slowly sipped. (850 characters)

Photo of nycbeerfreak
4.35/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L - hazy color with a white head that stayed as a ring.

S - lots of citrus and spice make the taste so great

T - starts with a yeasty wheat taste before the citrus rind, spice and peppercorn all come through finishing dry and a little peppery.

M - awesome with mild carbonation.

O - a good saison/triple with a kick.

Serving type: bottle (342 characters)

Photo of cavedave
3.92/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cloudy golden, lots of floaties, quick to leave skim of head that leaves a thin island and ring, bits of bubbly cling from a swirl.

Medium aroma topped by a tart fruity yeast and some righteous black pepper. Seems to be a bit of citrus/tropical hop in there as well. Nice.

Very full taste. It starts with a bang of crackery sweet, citrus, and pepper, hits some nice bitterish herb, some almost wine tart makes an appearance, and it ends with bittering hop carrying the tart and pepper for quite a spin. Not as balanced as one would want, and somehow not as delicious as those flavors together might be.

Highly viscous, coating, low carb., exc. finish, not as clean as one would hope.

A bit thick and not as refreshing a saison as one would guess field hands might enjoy to quaff on break, but a very tasty and potent saison for sure. (837 characters)

Photo of Morey
3.58/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

APPEARANCE: Pours a cloudy yellow-orange color with about a half of an inch of white foam sitting on top. The head settled pretty quick, but there's some decent retention & alcohol legs following each sip.

AROMA: Flower Petals, Lemon Rind, Wet Lawn, Grapefruit, Pepper, and some Alcohol in the nose.

TASTE: There's a nice dose of Belgian yeast flavor up front. It's fairly sweet with some nice citrus flavors that help to balance this some. I'm also getting a decent amount of alcohol coming through towards the middle. The big Belgian yeast characteristics come back for more towards the back-end with a some lingering alcohol heat on the finish.

MOUTHFEEL: Medium bodied with a pretty low carbonation level.

MOREY'S BOTTOM LINE: This is the highest ABV that I've had in a Saison, which works, but makes it more of a sipper than a Saison would normally be. I could have used a bit more peppercorn. It cames through some in the aroma, but I didn't get much in the taste. (974 characters)

Photo of WesM63
3.7/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a over sized wine glass.

A: Pours a cloudy straw yellow with a 1finger white head. Minor retention and some lacing.

S: Lots of funky yeast, some pale malts and hint of citrus.

T: Pretty close to the nose. Citrus, pale malts, funky yeast. Although about mid taste you get a huge hit of booze all the way to the end.

M: Medium body heavy feel.

O: Overall, interesting saison. I feel it's too boozy for the style. (446 characters)

Photo of JayQue
3.97/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

When I saw the alcohol level on this one, I thought it would be just a boozy, lemon zest heavy beer without much Saison qualities. I was wrong, this beer stayed fairly true to the Saison style, but with a richness and higher abv level...kind of an Imperial Saison. Pours a hazy straw gold color with the typical delicately bubbly head. Due to the alcohol level, the head retention was not that good. Minimal lacing as well.

Aroma was "on". Lemon zest funky Belgian yeastiness and some spices (pepper). The grapefruit was a nice addition and there was a hint of the higher alcohol level

Taste was "Imperial" Saison. The funk, spices and lemon zest were there in the right amount. The addition of grapefruit and higher alcohol did not take from the enjoyment of this beer.

Mouthfeel was right. Crisp and funky, but with a richness that most Saisons don't have.

Overall, I liked this beer. My idea of a Saison is more like 7.00 abv, in corked and caged bomber. A warm weather treat, good with food. 750 ml of this beer would be a bit much as a typical Saison if tackled by myself. The 12 oz bottle is just right. Maybe an unusual Saison but I would buy this again. (1,165 characters)

Seventeen from Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
84 out of 100 based on 86 ratings.