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Seventeen - Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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85
very good

249 Ratings
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Ratings: 249
Reviews: 83
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 13%


Brewed by:
Weyerbacher Brewing Co. visit their website
Pennsylvania, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  10.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Rifugium on 06-02-2012)
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Alieniloquium

Florida

3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into an Allagash chalice. Bottled 5/29/12.

Appearance - Clear golden body. Not much of a head. Not much left but a ring of foam and some lonely wisps of bubbles.

Smell - Lemony hops at first sniff. Smells like sorachi ace hops. Yeasty on further analysis. Banana and some esters. Fruity and maybe a little herbal in the back. Sweet and heavy smelling, it should be noted.

Taste - Less hoppy. Sweet. Bananas. The spiciness comes in the finish. Peppercorns are noticeable. It's pretty herbal in the finish, too. Too sweet, though. I'd like it to be lighter.

Mouthfeel - Heavy and sweet. Well carbonated, which helps. Definitely easier to drink when cold.

Overall - Good, well spiced, and some nice flavors. The bananas aren't my favorite flavor in a saison. Neither is the overpowering sweetness.

Serving type: bottle

07-16-2012 01:35:41 | More by Alieniloquium
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OWSLEY069

Pennsylvania

4.53/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Pours a hazy yellow color with an off white head. In the aroma, citrus rind, especially grapefruit. In the taste, grapefruit and orange citrus rind, peppery end, yet still sweet. A spice bite and a medium bodied mouthfeel, with a dry grapefruit citrus in the the aftertaste. Big citrus, small spice, nice alcohol, and quite super!

Serving type: bottle

07-14-2012 12:57:14 | More by OWSLEY069
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bonkers

New Jersey

3.78/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a snifter, deep copper pour, light head, light lacing. The aroma is typical saison, lemony, zesty, spicy. Nothing really stands out in the taste, spicy, lemony, zesty. I did not pick up the peppercorns. The body is light, good carbonation, alcohol is extremely well hidden. A decent saison, not sure if a 10% abv is a good idea, but worth trying.

Serving type: bottle

07-13-2012 01:43:56 | More by bonkers
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trxxpaxxs

New York

2.9/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours a hazy golden straw with a full finger of pure white head. The foam takes quite awhile to settle. There is nice lacing as it drinks.

S: The nose is tons of citrus peel (mainly lemon and grapefruit) mixed with a generous helping of Belgian yeast. It's spicy, but I can't pull out the peppercorns.

T: It starts off with a nice mix of sweet, citrus and yeast. As it progresses on the palate it becomes insanely bready and funked. The finish is yeast and booze. This beer has some serious alcohol bite.

M: Medium bodied beer. There is a lot more heft to this beer than meets the eye. It's sweetness lingers from start to finish and it's boozy in the back end. Dry finish.

O: Not a fan of this at all. The initial flavors of this beer are alright, but it gets way too funky in the middle. It's overly yeasty and has a massive abv that is completely noticeable. Maybe this beer needs some time to settle, because right now it's not very good.

Serving type: bottle

07-08-2012 12:17:09 | More by trxxpaxxs
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JoeyBeerBelly

New York

4.08/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle served in a snifter.

L - hazy dull-brass color with a white head that stayed as a ring.

S - lots of citrus and spice make the smell very nice.

T - starts with a yeasty wheat taste before the citrus rind, spice and peppercorn all come through finishing dry and a little peppery.

F - medium bodied with mild carbonation.

O - a good saison with a kick.

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2012 01:53:13 | More by JoeyBeerBelly
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justintcoons

Pennsylvania

3.15/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured into a goblet.

A: Extremely cloudy gold with sediment on the bottom of the glass. Very minimal head that dissipates quickly.

N: Clove, peppercorn, grainy and doughy malts and some lemon zest.

T: Quite heavy on the spices. Tons of clove and peppercorn. Grapefruit, caramel and lemon juice are on the front of the palate. Doughy, bready malts and banana peel kick in mid-palate. A lot of zests come in during the finish. Most notably grapefruit and lemon zest. Some light-medium booziness shows through.

M: Medium bodied, crisp, spicy, dry and warming.

O: Overly spiced with no Belgian yeast qualities. Definitely takes the off beaten path of a traditional Saison. Hides the alcohol considerably well. Meh, it's okay.

Serving type: bottle

07-06-2012 22:59:47 | More by justintcoons
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lordofthewiens

Maine

4.2/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

In a tulip glass this beer was a hzy gold color with a small white head.

Citrus and spice aroma. A little funky.

Things sorted themselves out in the taste. Lemon and orange, a little clove. Yeasty.

This beer felt right, with a nice blend of citrus and spice. The alcohol wasn't at all noticeable, a dangerous thing, perhaps.

Serving type: bottle

07-05-2012 22:59:23 | More by lordofthewiens
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cld253

Pennsylvania

4.33/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Fantastic take on a classic style. Sweeter than your standard Saison up front, but this hides the alcohol very, very well, then leads into a dry, spicy finish.
Some earthiness, some fruitiness, some kind of dangerous, ha.
Great anniversary beer, keep'em coming.

Serving type: bottle

07-05-2012 16:49:44 | More by cld253
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jlindros

Massachusetts

3.63/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light fizzy head covering typical of a beer with this abv, over hazy carrot orange colored beer.

Nose brings floral spices, almost ancient ale like spices or a strong Belgian tripel, coriander like, hint of a peppercorn almost, lots of wheat hefe like aromas as well with the coriander and clove almost, banana, plenty of citrus zest with orange and hint of lemon like, and the malts are more wheat based with hints of a malty saison rustic aroma, some light blood orange and clementine like.

Taste starts again with a hefe like flavor, but citrus fruit flavors as well. Juicy wheats, lots of wheat, with lots of citrus fruits, blood orange, clementine, hint of a pink grapefruit as well. Then spices, light spices overall, but fairly saison like with hints of a light peppercorn, hint of coriander and slightly clove like, as well as citrus peel, light orange and lemon zest even. The zest brings a decent bitterness, but nagging bitterness, and a light chalky like taste as well which is kinda weird. Light yeasty dry bready malt as well. Just a light warming booze which is hidden well. Finish is slightly dry and decent lingering bitterness, lots of orange zest, lemon peel, blood orange juice lingering, lots of wheat and hefe like spices also last a while.

Mouth is med bodied, decent carb but not as much as I hoped, light warming booze that is hidden fairly well.

Overall not bad, almost like a very strong hefe blended with blood orange juice, light spices, zest, and some saison flavors, booze is hidden well, a good summer beer but overall not quite what I was expecting from a Weyerbacher beer, too much of various flavors blended together and don't seem to mesh as well as you would expect.

Serving type: bottle

07-04-2012 23:07:39 | More by jlindros
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BEERMILER12

Maine

3.95/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a slightly hazy golden yellow color with a fingers worth of head that fizzles down to almost nothing in minutes

S: Nice, strong fruity Belgian yeast, with plenty of citrus. Get a light hint of peppercorn as well, but the 3 citrus peel additions stand out much more

T: Follows the nose, along with a fairly strong alcohol presence. Super-Saison indeed. I think the alcohol actually enhances the spice flavors of the beer and lends some spiciness itself, which suits the style well (aside from the dose of alcohol, which is obviously out of style)

M: Fuller than most saisons, but that is almost a must to help with the alcohol. Low-moderate carbonation

O: I like the fact that Weyerbacher pushed the limit of the style with this beer. For people who don't know already, they have a condition with their anniversary beers that states that the beers must be at least 10%, hence the 10.5%. I think it does the job very well, even though most consider the style to be light and summery. Way to push the envelope

Serving type: bottle

07-03-2012 05:16:33 | More by BEERMILER12
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DaveHack

Pennsylvania

3.65/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served at 55 degrees

Pours a really nice hazy, copper. Tons of tiny bubbles rush to the top. There is a small but determined head that rests nicely on the beer.

Smells of fresh citrus rind and slight spice. It is a very 'fresh' smelling saison.

First taste is a refreshing, crisp lemon. Although is is citrusy, I'm getting much tartness at all. How the f#$k is this over 10%??? This is probably the most well hidden alcohol I've EVER had. I'm not sure why it needs to be this high, but they sure hid it well!

This beer coats the mouth. It is much 'thicker' than most saisons, but in a really good way. Swallows easy leaving me wanting more.

This is damn fine beer from Weyerbacher. If only some Brett was thrown in there....but I digress...This is really a fine saison, but I still don't quite 'get' how/why this is such a high ABV? Definately give it a shot.

Serving type: bottle

07-02-2012 22:41:10 | More by DaveHack
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kawilliams81

Yukon (Canada)

3.45/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a 10 oz chalice.

A- pours a cloudy lemon color with a 1 finger dense white head. Ring of lacing forms and settles immediately.

S- big lemon, clove, caramel, and spices.

T- citrus rind, lemon, spices, bitter off-flavor taste.

M- medium body and carbonation. I would have no idea this was 10.5% if I didn't see it on here.

O- ok saison but drinks very well for the abv.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2012 02:13:40 | More by kawilliams81
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Greywulfken

New York

4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: hazy amber beer with ivory head; slimmed down to a wisp of a collar; no lacing to speak of

S: citrus notes, soap, yeast

T: citrusy flavors and spices definitely, some herbal and floral background flavors; bitter apricot

M: denser than other saisons I've had - although the abv makes this like an "imperial" saison, so maybe it fits; slight tacky aftertaste

O: Weyerbacher has not had many hits with me, but this is my favorite of theirs so far - biased by my liking of strong pale ales and the few saisons I've had - this beer manages to be fairly crisp and slightly tart and bright despite a heavier-than-I-expected mouthfeel and strong abv. I was reminded of a tripel but with bitter qualities - almost like a tripel combined with DFH's Midas Touch. The more I drank this beer, the more I appreciated its qualities.

Serving type: bottle

06-26-2012 23:37:57 | More by Greywulfken
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Knapp85

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured out as a nice looking bright yellow color color, the head was fizzy and white. Not much retention or lacing on this one. The smell of the beer has a nice fresh grainy, herbal/spiced aroma to it. The taste of the beer had some nice spicy notes to it and well has the sweetness of the grains in there too. The mouthfeel of the beer was clean and crisp feeling with a little bit of heat in the finish from the ABV. Overall it's a really interesting Saison to say the least. I found it enjoyable, wouldn't buy a case but it was nice to try.

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2012 23:52:53 | More by Knapp85
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tobelerone

Connecticut

4.08/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Another very nice anniversary offering from Weyerbacher. A hazy, pale gold beer with a fluffy white head that settles slowly and strong lacing. Nose packs lots of citrus and tropical fruit aroma with some general Belgian-style yeastiness and the accompanying spice notes you’d expect. Cloves and pepper really pop out.

Flavor pretty much follows the nose. The beer is brewed with grapefruit, lemon, and orange peel so it’s no surprise there is a lot of citrus zing to it as well as some appealing bitterness from both the hops and the fruit. Light pith and aspirin notes, mild sweetness. Lots of spice and yeast character, the peppercorns really come out in the finish and provide a gentle tingle on the tongue. Really well balanced between all of the elements and that subtle, emerging peppery note ties it all together nicely.

Crisp feel on a medium body beer; lively carbonation; dry finish. Drinks clean, with absolutely no trace of the 10.5% ABV. Where did that go? Feels like it’s half that.

EDIT: I read the other reviews after writing mine. I've heard about batch variation issues, and Weyerbacher's in particular recently, but this is wild. Chewy and boozy? My bottle was the opposite of this. Booze was nowhere, and carbonation was crisp. Quite a refresher and one that felt right on in terms of body and carbonation for a Saison. Very odd. It can't just be perception. Flavors and aromas are one thing but carbonation and heft are much more concrete and straightforward.

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2012 22:02:45 | More by tobelerone
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julian89

Georgia

4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I bought this beer at work along with Innis & Gunn Independence day, Port Brewing Older Viscosity, Dogfish head Burton baton, Dogfish Festina Peche, and Port Old Viscosity. It made quit an expensive medley of a 6-pack. Oh and a good friend gave me a Great Lake Edmund Fitzgerald porter.

Appearance - Pours a typical hazy pale yellow, opaque. A 1/2 inch head that quickly dissipates with no head.

Smell - Citrus dominates. Lemons, black pepper, orange and grapefruit peel, mild Belgian spice, bready backbone. No severe sweetness. Alcohol smell is absent.

Taste - The taste is complemented perfectly by the smell description. Plenty of citrus zest accompanied by Belgian yeast strain and bready backing. A powerful ABV saison, up there with Brasserie Dupont.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied saison, not a light one. Not as thich as I see other people describing. I think the temp plays a big factor there. The carbonation could use a little work. All in all its a differ3ent mouthfeel than a normal "imperial" saison (as if that actually exists).

Drinkability- I've always said that the Quad from Weyerbacher is my favorite from this Canadian brewery, this is a great saison though. I put it closer to a higher ABV Belgian white though. All in all the citrus and Belgian spice make this a great brew.

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2012 01:37:18 | More by julian89
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dbrauneis

North Carolina

3.58/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours an extremely cloudy (almost milky) glowing golden straw yellow in color. The beer has a half finger tall fizzy white head that quickly reduces to a small patch of extremely thin film and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Minimal lacing is observed.

S: Light to moderate aromas of citrus zest (both lemon and orange), sweet orange citrus, candi sugar, and some spicy yeast notes. Very light hints of alcohol.

T: There is a light amount of candi sugar sweetness along with citrus (orange) and citrus zest (lemon and orange). There is a pretty heavy amount of spicy yeast notes and some light amounts of alcohol.

M: On the fuller side of medium bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Chewy.

O: Not the easiest beer to drink as the high ABV is not as well hidden as I would have appreciated. I like the spicy notes from the yeast but would have like just a hint of the barnyard funk I have come to expect in the style.

Serving type: bottle

06-21-2012 22:40:22 | More by dbrauneis
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FeDUBBELFIST

Pennsylvania

2.08/5  rDev -44.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz bottle to tulip. $5.00 for the single. Sampled 6/15/12.

A: A smooth but quick pour produces a fizzy/foamy ivory colored cap, quick to rise to a finger and a half - and fades audibly over 20 seconds or so. A small amount of tight knit bubbles collect around the edge of the glass. Lacing is improbable. The body has a glowing rustic orange hue, medium-light in intensity with above average haze. By now, the only visible activity is created from the bubbles rising to the surface.

S: Lemon and grapefruit peel standout above the other listed ingredients - and come through in a sour, bitter, pithy way. Peppery spice with a deeper layer of clove plus bar-of-soap and other cleaning agents. ABV-wise, the size of the beer is boastfully apparent.

T: Brash, abrasive and unapologetic. Headache. Bitter citrus fruit flavors with dried flower and a generic malt bill.

M: Well, it's definitely the chewiest saison I ever had. Low carbonation on the front end with a gently tingling effervescence from mid palate on. Dryness is accentuated by the high alcohol and bitterness. This beer is either allergic to - or at war with refreshment. Suffice it to say: Not saison-like at all.

O: Brewing is all about having fun and trying new things - I get that. Why shouldn't Weyerbacher do something whacky to celebrate their anniversary? (Congratulations guys!) On the other hand, I think the world would be a much better place if "super saisons" didn't exist. They are unnatural. And the concept alone is even more paradoxical than the Black IPA.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2012 22:52:16 | More by FeDUBBELFIST
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BARFLYB

Pennsylvania

3.1/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On Tap at Old Eagle Tavern.

Served in a ten ounce portion, this 'super saison' pours out a deep dark golden look with some burnt orange in between. There is some depth in the look as it is not entirely clear, cant see through the glass. By the time it got to me, there was a off white skim on top, leaving nothing. Smell is pretty earthy with grassy notes and some weird musky scents. Some floral notes and a whiff of alcohol. Orange comes to mind and some weird spicing going on. All in all, weird. Taste leaves where the nose leaves me, what exactly is this. Tastes include a variation of Merry Monk's yeast or perhaps some more of it. Earthy hop flavor, grassy notes,Some Belgian sweet flavor with orange, alcohol, and deep plum. The peppercorns are throwing me off though. Feel is bigger than medium with less and less carb as time goes by. Some warming which really should not happen in a saison, but this is 10 plus percent, which I think is the problem, to much for it's own good. One glass was more than plenty for me.

Serving type: on-tap

06-12-2012 04:49:02 | More by BARFLYB
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philbe311

Pennsylvania

3.98/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - No real head to speak of... Instead there is a slightly lopsided lacing comprised of big chunky bubbles that quickly fizzes away leaving only the thinnest of collars around the edge of the glass... The color is a medium golden honey... There is a haziness throughout... Some small streaks of quick paced carbonation can be seen towards the top of the glass...

S - Lemon zest... Belgian yeast... A light candied sugar presence... Some mandarin orange notes... A very subtle spice component as well... Fairly complex... Very pleasant and quite well rounded...

T - Lemon zest... Orange zest... A strong spice component... Belgian yeast... The finish is an interesting mix of bitter grapefruit and peppercorns...

M - Medium to full bodied... A bit thicker than is typical for the style... Lightly carbonated... Sleek... A bit sticky... A bit chewy...

D - The booze is a bit hard to hide at 10.5% ABV and while not typical for the style it's an interesting twist... Treads over several Belgian styles in arriving at its Saison classification... I've always been partial to the Weyerbacher anniversary brews and this one is no exception... Howerver, some time in the bottle will probably serve this one quite well to mellow it out just a tad...

Serving type: bottle

06-10-2012 21:53:48 | More by philbe311
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jzeilinger

Pennsylvania

4.2/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a hazy, cloudy tan/orange/gold color with a one fingered head that quickly dies down to a really thin layer across the top, mild carbonation.

S - Earthy, lemons, black pepper, bitter orange peel, mild Belgian spice, bready, and some barnyard funk going on. Aroma is funky with some tangy pungency.

T - Zesty lemons, grapefruit, and funk come into play immediately with a nice blend of peppery spice and some orange bitterness. Yeasty, a little bready, and alot of funkiness going on - not at all complex but a nice even blend of flavors through the entire sip. The 10.5% comes through slightly in the flavor, but doesn't overpower the beer at all.

M - Very thick and low carbonation for a Saison, the bubbles are gentle on the tongue. Leaves a pretty healthy coating of lemon pepper and bitter orange peel in the mouth. I'm torn on the mouthfeel because I am enjoying it but it's "thick like bull" which goes against the style. Then again, we're Americans and we like to wrench things up to the next level so I applaud the boundaries being pushed.

O - This is very enjoyable and definitely worth a try. It doesn't top Thirteen or Fourteen (my two personal favorites), but still, pretty darn interesting, I look forward to the Anniversary beer every year. There's very few Saisons out there with this kind of punch and considering the low detection of alcohol, I think that's pretty impressive. If you're a traditionalist who prefers their Saisons more to style you may not enjoy this one...it's loud, bold, retains alot of the Saison flavors, but is in your face at 10.5%. For some reason, compared to other beers at this ABV, this one seems more potent for some reason, very strange. Overall, nice job, Weyerbacher.

Serving type: bottle

06-03-2012 00:17:23 | More by jzeilinger
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nrs207

Pennsylvania

3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at Weyerbacher as a sample. Served in a 3.5 ounce plastic cup.

A - From the small sample, nice fluffy white head. Hazy yellow just like a typical saison. Really refreshing looking.

S - The smell had the right amount of funk from Belgian yeast, but clearly had a lot of the grapefruit, orange, and lemon coming through. Didn't really get a lot of pink peppercorn in the smell.

T - The peppercorn comes through at the end in the taste, and has a nice little spice. Super refreshing, very well done saison. The fruit really comes through with a bit of funkiness.

M - Hides the 10.5% fairly well. Nice carbonation.

O - I walked in thinking it'd be a good saison and I might grab a bottle (yay new PA no case laws). I walked out with a 4 pack. I went with 4 other guys and they all liked it too. It's not mind blowing, but it's worth a try.

Serving type: on-tap

06-02-2012 16:56:52 | More by nrs207
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Rifugium

Pennsylvania

3.68/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Barcade, Philly, PA

Served in a goblet, an impenetrably hazy golden yellow color with a thin cap of white-yellow head; moderate retention and lacing. Aroma was pretty light, essence of citrus zest, and peppery spice, Belgian yeast and a bit of funk. Taste reflected the aroma, with notes of lemon and grapefruit, bready yeast, peppery spice, grassy funk, quite earthy...all the classic makings of a good saison were there, but it was still lacking a bit in the flavor department I thought. Light-medium mouthfeel, and definitely easily drinkable. Nothing amazing here, but I was definitely happy to get a chance to try it before it's gone.

Serving type: on-tap

06-02-2012 00:48:11 | More by Rifugium
Seventeen from Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 249 ratings.