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Cinderbock - Heavyweight Brewing Co.

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103 Ratings

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Ratings: 103
Reviews: 100
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 15.3%
Wants: 1
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Heavyweight Brewing Co. visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Todd on 12-02-2001)
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Photo of ithacabaron
3/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Pours a basic brown, not shiny, but not too dull. A small head fades to nothing on top of the liquid. Nothing to write home about.

Smell is slightly smoky, with acidulated malt, munich malt, and treacle.

Taste is malty, but with a sour overriding tone that clashes with the smoke and never quite resolves itself.

Mouthfeel is fine for the style.

Drinkability takes a hit -- I had a few bottles of this over time while reviewing it, and I've never looked forward to the next one.

All in all, I can't call this a success. It's not exactly a bock, nor is it smoky enough. Some people love this stuff. Those people are not me.

ithacabaron, Aug 17, 2005
Photo of Citadel82
4.18/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This is a real treat. The maltiness of a doublebock with hints of beechwood smoke. A real treat for all the senses. Pours a hazy copper with a smoky sweet aroma. First sip is fruity ale yeast, malty sweet with a healthy dose of beechwood smoke. A multi-layered and tasty brew that will pair nicely with grilled fare.

Citadel82, Aug 09, 2005
Photo of Sammy
3.45/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A most interesting surprise from the gifts of the generous Ilkerts in NJ. This one is average in every respect, albeit very fresh and refreshing at the end of another super humid day. Sourness like their baltic porter! Smoke which is not my thing. Bit of metallic aftertaste.

Sammy, Aug 04, 2005
Photo of kmpitz2
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a murky orange color with a small ring of head over top. The nose is nice and smokey, reminding me of a rauchbier. Very nice. The flavor is full sweet smoke upfront. This is followed by a nice malty sweetness, almost a rouch of toasted nut and raisin. The mouthfeel is nice and thick, with a minimalistic carbonation. Overall, an enjoyable brew. I'd like to see a little more of the toasted character in the flavor. I'd have it again if the mood struck me.

kmpitz2, Jul 23, 2005
Photo of clvand0
4.1/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light amber color with a small head that falls fast and doesn't leave much lacing on the glass. The aroma has a lot of smoky and roasted. I don't get much more out of it, just a lot of smoky notes. The flavor is totally a smoked light bock. Lots of smoky notes with some light maltiness. Very tasty. Should be called a smoked bock though. Very enjoyable. The mouthfeel is moderate and the drinkability is good.

clvand0, Jul 23, 2005
Photo of Boilermaker88
4.1/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

One of a couple Heavyweight brews I carted back with me from Boston, Cinderbock came in a stubby 12oz bottle that bore no freshness date. I emptied the bottle into an imperial pint glass.
Good thing I went with the impy pint glass, too. Hugely effervescent, Cinderbock blew up upon hitting the glass, producing a massive, fluffy white head that took fully five minutes to settle down. Even the most gentle pouring techniques resulted in a big flare-up. The carbonation looked more like a hefeweizen than a doppelbock. The end result was a cloudy dark orange beer sporting a big foamy white head that slowly dwindled down to a small layer of foam and left decent levels of lace behind.
The nose had a sweet meaty aroma similar to teriyaki beef jerky or applewood-smoked bacon. Very nice though I expected a stronger smoke aroma. Sweet malt aromas consistant with a d-bock linger and mix with the smokiness.
The taste had that sweet honey-glazed ham and applewood bacon flavor going full throttle. Good levels of sweet grains carry the load unimpeded by the smokey, meaty taste. Light hops bitterness in the finish, virtually unnoticeable. Light alcohol tang in the finish, also.
The feel was lighter than usual for a d-bock and very lively, considering the immense level of carbonation.
Overall, Cinderbock was quite enjoyable. Kind of a doppelbock/rauchbier hybrid that was quite appealing. Not as full-bodied as a d-bock or carrying the heavy smokiness of a rauchbier, Cinderbock nonetheless blended the two together for a tasty brew that I'd love to get more of. Recommended.

Boilermaker88, Jul 18, 2005
Photo of blitheringidiot
4.4/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Foggy dark orange amber with spotty carbonation bubbles and a thin beige wafer head that whittles down to a collar.

Delicate yet present smoky scents tickle the nose like a smoked ham. Almost like a rauchbier but not quite. Interesting!

First swigs: Whimsical smoked hickory plays along with the grain like flavors of the lager.

Medium bodied with crisp carbonation that became a tad bit thick and sticky towards the end.

Last swigs: Liquid smoked ham on rye beer. Goat smoking a cigarette on the label is clever. The label also briefly explains the style with smoked German malts. Tom Baker must really have a grand time making these wild beers. They are unlike most any other. This was a pleasant surprise picked up at their open house.

Beer is good. Happy beering.

blitheringidiot, Jul 17, 2005
Photo of Stubbie1
3.63/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Burnt orange in color with a thick white head. The head quickly fades to nothing. Aromas are malt and maybe a hint of plumb and yeast and yes a hint of smoke. Flavor is malt sweetness with a slight bitter pop in the middle. They fight for number 1 but the sweetness returns in the end. A mild smoke and hint of alcohol is also noted.

Overall, not a bad brew. Light bodied and smooth going down. Didn’t knock me out of my shoes but it is worth the try.

Stubbie1, Jun 20, 2005
Photo of Wonka
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

7% abv
12 Fl. Oz.
No dates

Appearance – orange/light brown; head fizzles; lacing is minimal; as doppelbocks go, I have seen much better

Smell – bigtime, chunky smoke like a malty beef jerky

Taste – smoke lives past the nose and holds with a solid malt base; the lager yeast is certainly noticeable; smoke, some Hallertau hop, grain and some alcohol to close; smoke holds in the aftertaste for a long while

Mouthfeel – early crisp, cutting carbonation; close shows some gentler carbonation; smoothens out nicely with some warming; adventurous moderate feel

Drinkability – understated warmth in the chest; as the beer itself warms, the drinkability improves since the feel and the flavors compliment each other much better

Cinderbock is unlike any doppelbock I have encountered. I like smoke beers for being smoke beers and doppelbocks for being doppelbocks. Certainly I do love brewing experimentation and I’m not a big fan of overt categorization but here I’m not totally sold. In the Heavyweight line, Perkuno hammers Cinderbock.

Wonka, Jun 13, 2005
Photo of WesWes
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a hazy dark amber color with a thin offwhite head that fades to lacing. The aroma is good. It has a nice smoked malt scent along with a Munich and light crystal malt aroma. The taste is good as well. It has a rich and smokey flavor. This is more intense than any rauchbier I have ever tried. It has a nice malty base with a slightly tart/fruity finish. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a very unique beer. It has a very intense smokey aroma and flavor; a good drinker.

WesWes, May 28, 2005
Photo of santoslhalper
4.15/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appereance: Poured a cloudy copper with a bubbly brownish head that dissapeared to nothing.

Smell: The smell is almost like a rauchbier, with huge smoky notes. Sticky sweet malty notes are also pleasent.

Taste and Mouthfeel: The taste is a mix of doppelbock and rauchbier. Imagine a big juicy rack of barbecued ribs covered in sticky sweet caramel with fruit juices on top. Ok doesn't sound that great, but this beer tastes nice. The mouthfeel is the usually wonderful Heavyweight creamyness, with a slick finish.

Drinkability and Overall: A different a nice doppelbock for sure. Was a treat to try, and unlike any Doppelbock I've had before. The smoky notes were ridiculous. This is another quality brew from Heavyweight.

santoslhalper, Apr 24, 2005
Photo of meathookjones
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I love the label on this one, a goat smoking. What more could you ask for. Appears a cloudy orange color with a light tan foamy head. Speckles of lace were left around the glass as this was consumed. Sweet and smoky aroma. Caramel malts mix quite well with a strong but not over powering smokiness. Not huge smokiness but a good amount that didn’t give me that liquid smoked meat feel. Taste was similar with a smokiness that lasts through the finish accompanied by a sweet caramel. Very nice and simple. Just the right balance of sweet and smoke. Creamy and smooth going down. Pretty easy drinking as well. I recommend picking this up for a change of pace, interesting without an overpowering smokiness.

meathookjones, Apr 14, 2005
Photo of BCMan
2.15/5  rDev -43.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

I've officially decided that it is now possible make liquid hot dogs. I was warned about smoke beers and wanted ti decide for myself. This beer poured up a murky yellow color...almost like muddy water. A decend head formed but faded thin coating. It smells like it tastes which is like a smoked hot dog. I've been told that you either love or hate this style of beer and I am clearly on one side with no chance of changing over. I might recommend this to someone that loves to smoke and eat smoked beef products.

BCMan, Apr 08, 2005
Photo of twelvsies
2.9/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Had this one on tap at the Moan and Dove when they were showcasing the Heavyweight Brewery. They originally had a bunch of draft offerings, but by the time I made it this was the only one left. Too bad. This is one of those beers that either you're crazy about or you really don't like it. I think I'm more on the "really don't like it" side. Appears to be a pretty typical amber color, perhaps darker than your average lager. It's definately not a dopplebock, as it says on this site, at least as I understand the style. This beer is pretty hard to categorize I guess. Anyway, the smokiness just really isn't my thing. Basically that killed this whole beer for me. I could tell there were other nice sweet malty notes in there and some hop bite but the smoked flavor took over. Thinking about it now really just makes me think of a beer with a cigarette put out in it. Like I said, just not my style. If you know that you really dig these smoky style beers then it might be great in your opinion, but if not, I would say avoid this one.

twelvsies, Apr 06, 2005
Photo of Fish113d
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Served from a 12 oz. bottle into a tulip glass, it pours a honey color with some slight haziness and a slight head that dissipates to a white edge lacing on the glass. Aroma is smokey malts with a beechwood or bologna smell to it. Slight hops are found in there as well with a slight sugary caramel; pretty complex! Taste is rather smokey and sweet; it reminds me of deer jerky or sweet bologna really. I am not too big on this right now. Feel is tingly carbonation up front that gives way to a smooth full-bodied brew. Not much alcohol found throughout this one, but worth a try. I personally do not care for smoke beers too much, and the fact that it reminds of bologne kinda bothers me a little.

Fish113d, Apr 06, 2005
Photo of Ego
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

nice copper tone, clean, good carbonation, nice head that lingers

matly sweetness with a smoky undertone that balances it from being overly sweet, burnt ember notes (like the taste you get after working a fire outside while camping up in the mountaines) emerge after a few swirls.. at times it almost smells like a regular dopplebock but the smoke fades in subtley, nicely done.

carbonation is just right to make the mouthfeel full but not heavy. the smoke (like in the nose) balances out the malt sweetness (usually I am not a huge fan of dopple bocks). the smoke really prounounces itself on the back center of the pallette, slight warming in the gullet is barely noticeable.

worth a try, no doubt. I personally might pair this with something like veal scallopinni or chicken francese... maybe marsala as well? the smoke/sweet might be a nice compliment to the acidic qualities of those meals. a well made brew, solid in all categories, and the ABV doesnt smack you upside the head in the taste.

Ego, Apr 04, 2005
Photo of EPseja
4.18/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had a 12oz serving of this in a tulip glass at Andy's Corner Bar in Bogota. Unfortunately, due to the smokiness of the bar, the smell and taste may have suffered.

Appearance: Hazy, burnt orange color with a very generous, pillowy head. Super lacing as well.

Smell: Bubble gum and candy cigarettes (crystal matls?), with a faint essence of natural wood smoke and pipe tobacco.

Taste/Mouthfeel/Drinkability: Sweet and candylike character right up front that gets shoved aside by the same smokiness found in the nose. The sweetness and smokiness then head to the middle of the mouth to battle it out! And the winner is... nobody. It's a superb blend of both tastes. And interesting and delicious hybrid of the Dopplebock and Urbock styles! The finish is smooth, creamy and satisfying. Because of the uniqueness of this beer, session drinkability is lessened, as having more than one of these would only dimish the greatness of that first few sips. However overall, it is very easy to drink and and even easier to enjoy.

EPseja, Mar 26, 2005
Photo of GeoffFromSJ
4.03/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Tom Baker, of Heavyweight, is always the artist, and he very often does not wish to be consigned to the style straightjackets. Nice orangish-amber color. Smells very nice. You can smell the smoked malt. Nice head with even better lacing. Tastes like smoked gouda cheese. Very nice but so unique it is not for every time and place, as a previous reviewer mentioned. Different. But that's good. Heavyweight is very good at off-beat or niche beers.

GeoffFromSJ, Mar 22, 2005
Photo of necoadam
3.98/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured out a rusty copper/orange color with a decent head to go along with it.

Smell consisted of a good dose of malts and a nice deep smoky depth. Some sweetness is in there but seems like it belongs there.

Taste is about the same. Sweetness starts out with malts blending in with a nice underlying of smoke entering the middle and lasting into the aftertaste. Quite good.

Mouthfeel had a medium body with a good control on carbonation. Went down easy.

Pretty good. It's almost a mix between a bock and a smoked ale if you want to go down that route. Pair it with some smoked gouda and see how good it is.

necoadam, Jan 23, 2005
Photo of bigbeerdrinka
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep copper color with some golden hues. A large and beautiful offwhite head appears and leaves a nice lace. Aromas are mainly of deliciously smoked meats, similar to a mesquite or spicy barbeque like flavor. There is also a slight tone of bread like aromas in the foreground. Initial flavors remind me of eating a nice peice of homemade venison jerky, but there is more of a spicy smoked flavor with less of a meaty tone to it. There is also an apparant sweetness (honey maybe?) to this brew that goes along nicely with the smoked flavors. The finish to this brew is citric and lemony with just a whisp of smoke like favors to boot. The carbonation is a bit too strong for me personally for this brew, and takes a bit away from the full flavor potential and drinkability of this brew. Overall though, I'm not the biggest fan of smoked beers, but I could easily quaff a few of these during a summer barbeque.. An excellent offering..

bigbeerdrinka, Jan 12, 2005
Photo of travolta
1.63/5  rDev -57%
look: 4 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Apperance: A frothy, rocky, and lightly tan head. Head retention was respectable, as well as lacing. A hazy, apricot color.

Nose: Teriaki, bbq beef, soy, and raisin.

Taste: Tastes like it smell but worse.

Notes: I did not even want to finish this one. It really tastes like teriaki sauce.

travolta, Jan 05, 2005
Photo of soulfly967
3.9/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I had this a few months ago, but, lucky for me, I took notes!

It poured a nice hazy golden orange color with an off white head that hung around for a while and left good lacing on the glass. The smell was of smoke on a cold winter's day. Also were hints of hops and malts but the smoke dominated. The taste is of pure smoke, with only subtle hints of toasted malts and spicy hoppiness. The mouthfeel was nice and thick, with good carbonation. I'm not exactly sure how drinkable this one is, but it was pretty cool. Give it a try!

soulfly967, Dec 14, 2004
Photo of rajendra82
3.58/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer had a lovely hazy golden yellow color and a very lively carbonation, which formed a huge creamy beige head that towered way outside the Pilsner glass, and tested my patience for a long time, as I could not fit the 12 oz. of fluid in there. The appearance is a lot lighter than most regular Dopplebocks and is a lot closer to a Maibock or a Weizenbock. The aroma is a mix of honeysuckle, apples, and pears behind a curtain of smoke. The first flavor that comes across my tongue is the hugely smoked malt. As I let the beer lay around my tongue, bananas, lemon, and green apples briefly show up until being swept aside by the black pepper aftertaste and a wave of hop bitterness. The mouthfeel is sticky and slick like a Dopplebock should be. Overall I feel that this beer is very interesting, but is a bit too one dimensional to rank among the best of the best. I am glad that I did get to try it though, and for that many thanks are due to Lupe and his BIF 10 package.

rajendra82, Aug 20, 2004
Photo of RocketWidget
3.68/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

That’s freaking right, the bottle is of a goat smoking a joint. Damm straight.

Pours a deep and cloudy red brown. Head retention is fabulous. Smell is sweet, not much else. Taste is pretty good. Light in the lager sense but heavy in the taste area. Big malt, tastes almost like sugar was added to this sucker, with earthy tones mixed in there. The taste of smoke is quite powerful. Tasty to drink and recommended.

RocketWidget, Aug 11, 2004
Photo of rotsaruch
3.93/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This year's bottled batch has an unusual degree of carbination upon opening the bottle. I have had a half a case by now, and have consistently experienced this roaring, massive head that appears when pouring this beer. It's pretty, but annoying after a while

The appearance is a hazy, honey color with almond colored head. The head does slowly fade with some noticeable lacing. From the overcarbination pour, you immediately notice the presence of smoked bacon aroma. It kinda dominates the olfactory sensory profile. However, the palate was pleasantly surprised by the sweet caramel malt taste along with the ever-present smoked malts, which provided the balance and drinkability. There was a noticeable spicey hop finish. A very interesting, but always an enjoyable brew.

rotsaruch, Jun 09, 2004
Cinderbock from Heavyweight Brewing Co.
84 out of 100 based on 103 ratings.