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Cinderbock - Heavyweight Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
85
very good

103 Ratings
THE BROS
96
world-class

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Ratings: 103
Reviews: 100
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 15.3%
Wants: 1
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Heavyweight Brewing Co. visit their website
New Jersey, United States

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Todd on 12-02-2001)
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Photo of ngandhi
4.05/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cinderbock gives head. A good two inches that actually dome several centimeters above the rim of the glass -- as if gravity had momentarily reversed and began sucking the soul out of this beer. After several minutes, the head settles down to a quarter-inch of thick, melted marshmallow foam fit for beer or the top of a birthday cake. The amber body is so bright, I wish I could wear this as a ring.

Smoke dominates, but the hops and malt have a judicious presence. The Canadian bacon taste is by no means light or even controlled. Bright citrus from the hops, however, with a wonderful caramel malt undertone (reminiscent of the malt in some richer I2PAs) keeps this otherwise wild boar in check. Though there seems to be some rotting flesh in this brew, it's laid out in the orange groves beneath the trees on a cool but sunny day. The hops are very fresh and the bitterness just barely dry enough to keep the smoke from lingering too long.

Cinderbock is an exercise in balance -- the final step a tightrope walker takes to accept his glory or to accept his doom. There are notes of pale ale here, fruity but not overpowering. The lager yeast is gorgeous, lending the most delicate of esters to work with the hops. Without the smoke, this might make a good German pilsener. With it, the beer is wholly unique -- challenging without being aggressive, inventive without being arrogant, and sophisticated without having any sense of class, respect, or mercy.

Relax, relax.
ng

ngandhi, Jun 09, 2004
Photo of PartyHatjo
4.13/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Damn lot of head on this sucker. Initial pour filled the glass about 2/3 full with head the rest beer, had to let it settle. Color is copper--bordering more toward tan. Very hazy brew, and a thick head (as mentioned before) that laces well.

Smell: Smoked bacon cooking on the stove. Smokiness blocks off most malt aromas, some grassiness comes through in the nose.

Taste: Tried the head alone first--very grassy hoppiness to it. More hops than smoke in the head. Getting to the body of the beer there is a strong initial taste of smoke (again, bacon-like). Sweet maltiness provides good balance to the smoke flavor. This is my first smoked beer, and I definitely will be trying more of these.

Mouthfeel: Medium body...would have expected overcarbonation with the amount of head, but it's not really prevalent in the mouthfeel.

Drinkability: I like the beer, but I don't see myself drinking cinderbock after cinderbock in a session.

PartyHatjo, May 31, 2004
Photo of Ieatlambfries
4.28/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pilsner glass. Took a while to pour as the head on this yeasty, hazy, amber brew was tremendous. All and all a nice appearance that left a thick lace curtain on my glass. The smell reminded me of coming home from camping and realizing that everything you have smells like the camp fire. Very smokey, but also quite malty and yeasty. The taste was excellent. The smokiness of the smell was quite prevalent with plenty of sweet malty flavors to balance it out. Slight hoppiness and also quite a bit of flavor from the lager yeast, but really more of malty smoked wood flavor over all. The mouthfeel was rich and full bodied, a bit filling actually, which is why I only gave it a 3.5 on drinkability.

Over all an excellent offering that I certainly would try again.

Ieatlambfries, May 26, 2004
Photo of beergeek279
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in the 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass. The color is copper, with a foamy white head. The smell is beef jerky smoke. The taste is fairly strongly smoky, with a good backing of sweet malt and just a hint of hops to it. Mouthfeel is average. As for drinkability, the malt and smoke muddle a bit too much for sustainability.

Well, Tom Baker creates yet another unique beer, and in this, he succeeds. Cinderbock ends up more smoky than Stone Smoked Porter, but less than an Aecht Schlenkerla, which is probably just the right balance. Quite good, and it's nice to have a good, readily available smoked beer handy.

beergeek279, May 04, 2004
Photo of rdrummer
3.93/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Oh baby, talk about smoke. I haven't tasted anything like this since drinking rauchbier in Nuremburg, Germany. This is a great looking beer with a hazy golden color and an immense head. You don't want to give this a vigorous pour unless you're ready to wipe up the spillover.

The aroma is one of a wood fire with a backing of hops and alcohol. Their is an undertone of yeast as well. The taste borders on too much smoke, but doesn't go over in my opinion. The overwhelming taste is that of smoky malt, but there is a hoppy kick as well.

This is crisp and clean in the mouth. It has a feel of a hefeweizen and the foaminess as well. The smoke makes this a one beer wonder for me. I love it from first drop till last, but I have to wait a couple days before trying another.

rdrummer, Apr 24, 2004
Photo of CRJMellor
3.9/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a cluody orangey amber with an enormous dish soap head that recedes slowly.
Aroma is dry-rub ribs (meat and all!), citurs orange and lightly burnt caramel.
Flavor is sweet and smoky with an underlying light malt profile and also a wisp of citrusy hops.
Mouthfeel starts very lightly sweet then moves to a smoked and lightly spiced finish.
Drinkability is decent but I think that the bottle probably doesn't do this beer justice. I imagine the tap version is much more subtle and complex.
Thanks to beerluvr for another great Heavyweight beer.

CRJMellor, Apr 13, 2004
Photo of GCBrewingCo
4.13/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer poured hazy brownish tan. The head was yellow and huge. No, make that HUGE. It lasted until the last swallow.

The aroma was Munich malt with a nutty sweetness and a hint of smoke.

The flavor was crisp and with a pleasant smokiness. The Munich malt flavors balance the smoke and even though the beer is 7% ABV, alcohol is not present in the flavor.

The finish was off dry and slightly smoky with just a slight alcohol warming. The body was medium. The carbonation in this beer was pretty high.

12 ounce bottle (twistoff). I poured this one slowly, but it erupted from the glass with a huge head. I sucked in as much as I could, and my first impression was SMOKY! Then I read the label and realized that was right and hence the name...

GCBrewingCo, Apr 11, 2004
Photo of Billolick
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle, this one opened with a burst, poured with a ton of carbonation, 4 inch head and a lot of bubble continuing to rise up.I was a bit worried this stuff had turned.Anyway it calmed down in the glass and exhibited a strong smoky nose, a nice smoky flavor profile and a decent, if highly carbonated finish. This stuff tastes like a BBQ. Not for everybody , but its allways worth supporting the good folks @ Heavyweight

Billolick, Apr 02, 2004
Photo of yeagerbm
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

poured hazy red with a fluffy white beer bubblebath head.
smells of smoked meat and sweet malt.
tastes like smoked bacon and apple juice. starts out tasty but becomes old quickly with its tart aftertaste, which hurts the drinkability. mouthfeel was average for a lager.

yeagerbm, Mar 30, 2004
Photo of ManekiNeko
4.38/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle served chilled in a pint glass.

Appearance: Cloudy reddish orance with visible carbonation. An explosive and excessive yellowish head of tiny bubbles gushed forth on an easy pour. A small, but thick, layer of foam remained all throughout consumption and left some decent sheets of lacing on the glass.

Smell: Compared to Schenkerla's urbock, not quite as smoky, but this is definitely the smokiest smelling domestically produced rauchbier I've ever come across. Not so overwhelmingly meaty either, but a nice balance between caramel malts, smoked meats, and ash is achieved.

Taste: An initial taste of sweet sweet caramel malts followed by some soft, but prominent, smoky aftertastes. A tad yeasty, to boot. Again, not as over the top as Schenkerla, but I'm not complaining.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with very crisp flavors, quite excellent.

Drinkability: Great food beer. The best domestic rauchbier I've had the pleasure of tasting. I wish some brewery in my area would be willing to make one, but the market for this sort of beer is small. Big thanks to my girlfriend for picking this up for me in NYC.

Other: Is it me, or is that goat smoking a fatty? It sure looks like a doobie.

ManekiNeko, Mar 25, 2004
Photo of yankeeheel
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear light brown with a wild billowy eggshell colored head. Tons of retention and soap suds style lacing.

Smells mostly smoky with a little nutty background.

Tastes like a light version of last nights beer. Nice amount of smoky malt meets you up front. The middle tends to be quite sweet and buttery. Almsot a little plum in there too. Finishes kindly with a little nit of a warming glow.

Mouthfeel is quite light but not thin. Lagering works for this one.

I could drink a few of these. Goes down easy. The smoke might get a little intolerable after a while.

yankeeheel, Mar 25, 2004
Photo of ark57
3.85/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I love the label with a goat smoking a cigarette. It pours cloudy dark amber. The aroma is slightly sweet with some subdued smokiness. The maltiness starts off sweet with some apple notes and then explodes into cured bacon and smoked ham. It finishes surprisingly clean.

ark57, Mar 24, 2004
Photo of Foxman
3.78/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It pours a hazy orange gold, soft and carbonated. Three fingers of pillowy foam erupt, then retain impressively. Slinky lacing adorns the glass.

There's the sweetness of mildly toasted malt in the aroma, but a wood-smoked character takes over and makes a solid impression. The yeast slides in gently and spins a doughy sourness in the background. A fruity berry note flits about as well.

As in the aroma, here on first taste a malted grain essence steps forward initially, but now the smokey presence is much more assertive, bringing to mind the meatiness of hickory smoked sausage or bacon, complete with a salty undercurrent. The yeast kicks in a mild sourness toward the end, then the mellow bitterness of hops battles through to carry along and fade at the finish. Overall, the interesting multi-faceted flavor is an attention getter, but not the strongest asset at hand.

It's light bodied, but the interaction of the various components delivers an almost chewable texture to this beer's feel on the palate.

I've seen some fellow BA's bemoan the lack of smokey character in many smoked beers. Well, look to this offering from Heavyweight. Still, the smoke is a bit more stand-offish than I'd prefer, almost able to stand on its own, and the saltiness I perceived didn't go over too well either. And yet, paired with some savory gustatorial delights I'd likely enjoy this more. So it's basically drinkable, but in my mind, more in a complimentary capacity as opposed to flying solo. I would not be at all surprised to see a more affirmed smoked beer fan rate this more highly. As for me, I see it as pretty good, just not my pet, in spite of that cool looking critter on the label.

Foxman, Mar 11, 2004
Photo of UnionMade
4.05/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a hazy golden amber, the suspended yeast adding a glow to the color that approaches gold. A thick ivory froth tops the beer, at least an inch thick, settling into a thick, healthy film after a couple minutes. The head diminishes into a fat collar, keeping steady throughout, leaving some chunky blobs of lace.
The aroma is almost comletely dominated by a pungent, smoky maltiness. Heavy sweetish caramel, a bit toasty and extremely clean. The smokiness is definitely present, but subtle enough to allow the caramel equal partnership. No detectable hops.
The flavor starts with a sweet, sweet caramel malt, reminiscent of a pale german bock beer. A touch bready, maybe from the yeast, with the smoked flavor creeping in very mildly, not reaching it's full potential until the middle. A woody, hickory feel to the smokiness, continuing into the finish, sweetish with the caramel background. The barest hint of herbal hops in the finish, with a bit of alcohol presence in the very end, adding a light twang in the swallow. The smokiness lingers a bit in the aftertaste, fading out rather quickly. Sweet, but certainly not cloying. Fairly full bodied, with a clean, lagery feel. Modest, small bubbled carbonation, just enough to carry the body without being intrusive.
What can you say....another winner from the folks at Heavyweight. I liked the tap version more than the bottle. It just seemed better balanced, without an overwhelming sweetness that I recall from the bottle. Not quite like a german rauchbier, or anything else for that matter.

UnionMade, Feb 21, 2004
Photo of ppoitras
4.03/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12ozer from a mixed Heavyweight Brewing 4-pack purchased at Yankee Spirits, Sturbridge, MA.

Poured into a pint glass, a HUGE frothy head formed immediately, so much so that I was unable to initally fit the full 12 oz in the glass. Beer was a orangish golden hue, and the aroma was like the air after a three-alarmer, smoke everywhere. Head still hanging on strong after 5 minutes and getting the whole beer poured, with froth sticking everywhere that the head has been. Taste is remarkably not as strong as the odor would lead you to believe, but the smoke comes on strong in the aftertaste. A good beer for those who smoke when they drink, they wouldn't even have to light up... Fits the style to a T.

ppoitras, Feb 16, 2004
Photo of genaro
2.63/5  rDev -30.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Cinderbock was a dark amber color with a light tan head that didn't linger. The aroma reminded me of a smoked shoulder with just a little floral bouquet. Besides its smokiness the taste was a little sweet and citrusy. The mouthfeel was a little oily with a decent hop bite. The finish was dry and smokey. I was put off by the smoked shoulder quality even though I really like smoked shoulder (salt, fat, and cholesterol). But that's just my taste and why I rated it so.

genaro, Feb 11, 2004
Photo of WanderingFool
4.13/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cinderbock pours a hazy dark honey color with some yellow hues mixed in. A frothy head forms on the surface which lasts throughout the entire glass. Some clumps of lace are left clinging to the sides after each sip.

The aroma is an interesting combination of smoke, cherry and caramel malt. Each sip of this medium bodied beer begins with a slightly tart fruity flavor (cherry), a bbq smokeness quickly moves in and there's a nice roasted malt taste holding it all together. It finishes slightly bitter with a hint of citrus.

This is a nice flavor filled beer, but not something I could drink everyday. It is great for a change of pace or if you happen to be having a hearty meal.

WanderingFool, Jan 13, 2004
Photo of SixpointJMH
4.5/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

a gem of a brew from heavyweight, and it's in a style that i love more and more each time i sample a new brew within it. the cinderbock pours a nice, slightly cloudy bright orange with a moderate 1/4 inch thick head and minimal to no lacing. the smell is simply out of this world. smoke and wood but with touches of sweetness and malt pushing through. very well done. magnificent really. the taste is damn near just as good as the smell, with that hearty smoke flavour prevailing over a nice malty base. a bit of alcohol adds a nice touch at the finish. a complex brew that is oh so easy to drink. bravo.

SixpointJMH, Dec 27, 2003
Photo of Admiraldinty
4.22/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cloudy amber. Poured an enormous white head (for some reason; maybe it warmed too fast) that stuck around until the end. Aroma is fairly smokey (as it should be) and malty. Fairly raw. Medium to full-bodied. Very smooth and creamy. Toasted malt, and then lots of smoke (although I might be missing out on some of it). Nice warming effect. Not bad for a smoked beer. I didn't think I'd like it, but I was pleasantly surprised.

Admiraldinty, Nov 27, 2003
Photo of taez555
4.08/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured a small white head that died almost immediately. The body was dark amber with a slight chill haze.

The nose was very smokey. More of a bacon smell than any other aroma. Some yeast, caramel, malt, and very faint touch of citrus. But mostly what dominates this nose is the smoked meat, bacon, smell.

The beer was medium to full bodied. Very crisp and clean with a big meaty smoked flavor. A slight graininess. Caramel, very light bitter chocolate, malt, some fruits, with a rather surprising mild citrus hop presence. Surprising in that you could actually taste it over the smoke or that it was even present at all. It became much maltier as it warmed.

Overall it's an interesting beer. I'm a huge fan of smoked beers and this one did not disappoint. No where near a german rauchbier, it's just missing some of the complexity of those and the flavors don't seem to all work as one in this beer, but... basically a very drinkable enjoyable smoked beer.

taez555, Oct 17, 2003
Photo of alexgash
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Great label. Kinda wish the beer were better. Starts off nicely, with a dark amber body and a medium-sized light tan head. Smells of smoked salmon, eggs, and slight malts. Taste is very sweet to begin with--too sweet--the ensuing smokiness doesn't subdue it enough. The smoked flavors are there, though, and they are salty and meaty--like beef jerky. In fact, maybe I will substitute this beer for jerky on my next road trip. Does Conoco stock Heavyweight beers? Finish is slightly bitter with traces of smokiness and camp fire. Very interesting. Mouthfeel is a little syrupy, and I don't think I could drink this on a regular basis.

alexgash, Sep 29, 2003
Photo of waughbrew
4.58/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

big lagery head, nice reddish-peach from a healthy amount of munich malt. Has a great wood-smoked aroma - not harsh, very earthy and blends with all the other characteristics. The smoke in the flavor helps to balance the munich candyness. Feel is wonderful - healthy carbonation dances on your tongue and body has perfect thickness. This beer is a masterpiece in my book.

waughbrew, Sep 19, 2003
Photo of feloniousmonk
3.55/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This brew is a true sight to see, for as the crown is cracked and pressure is popped, smoke furiously spews from the bottle, bubbles oozing from the neck. Cautiously, grinning with anticipation from such a momentous debut, we pour...appearance is a hazy, dark amber hue, with a head supremely fizzy at first, soon to settle into a tight white collar.
Aroma: heady, fruity, and soon overcome by the smoke factor...oh, yeah, it's all over the place now, leaving little in it's wake but the essence of smoked salmon.
Big, buzzing carbonation greets the tongue, and the smoke flavor follows and soon takes dominion of the senses. Body is rather light, and texture is, well, fully engulfed by smoke. The substance of the bock is well-sustained, if on the flimsy side, though the flavor is fully overtaken by the smoke. It's all you taste here, really.
A very interesting beer, and wholly unique. Big points for the novelty of the thing, but I can't see myself indulging in more than one on a lark.
Thanks go to BeerFan for this one.

feloniousmonk, Sep 10, 2003
Photo of nomad
4.25/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured a glowing orange color, lightly ambered, with two hands of stain of bursting out of my imperial pint glass. I mean, this beer we just jumping with carbonation on the pour. It did calm to a very rocky head with a thinned foam consistency, supported by constant carbonation fluting up. Also had some thick lace falling about in clumps.

Smelled of a barbecue smoke foreground, some peat, and thena sweet malt background. The sweetness and peat could be cloying, though with warmth some more floral hop scents slowly appeared. The smokiness wafted away and back again like, well, the nature of smoke is apt to do.

Taste was of sweet malt and peat, then a strong grainy sort of roasted flavor - this was very complex and not of the ordinary. Bitterness came on slowly and smoothly at the finish, a low-level and barely citric kind of bitterness; indeed, a very nice touch and, to me, a sign of careful brewing. This beer had layers that rolled in each distinguishable from the last, showing a nice variety and sequence. The finish was minimal, displaying how clean and clear a beer this was, a commendable thing considering its many and odd parts. As with the explosion mentioned, I could feel the carbonation right away on my tongue, so opposite to the nice moderate bodied slick mouthfeel.

Very drinkable and interesting on levels of taste, smell, mouthfeel, and all the details in between.

nomad, Sep 03, 2003
Photo of chaduvel
3.7/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a nice amber color with an effervescent head that stays around longer than anticipated. Smells malty some fruits with a sublte but definite smokey campfire aroma (big surprise). Taste, very nice, smooth, malty with a...woa very smokey aftertaste, grows more complex with time, tastes almost of smoked jerky. Fizzy mouth feel, more carbonated than I expected. A very unique beer. I really enjoyed this beer, but wouldn't drink on a regular basis.

chaduvel, Aug 13, 2003
Cinderbock from Heavyweight Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 103 ratings.