Allagash Victor Ale - Allagash Brewing Company

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Allagash Victor AleAllagash Victor Ale

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very good

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Reviews: 154
Hads: 429
rAvg: 3.87
pDev: 9.04%
Wants: 23
Gots: 77 | FT: 3
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Allagash Brewing Company visit their website
Maine, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: akorsak on 06-10-2007

The Victor Ale was inspired by its feminine-named predecessor, the Victoria Ale. With chardonnay grapes to make the Victoria Ale unique, our brewers decided to use red grapes for the Victor. Over one hundred pounds of cabernet franc grapes were crushed on site and added directly to the mash. In addition to a generous portion of Pilsner malt, Victor is hopped with Fuggles and Hallertau and fermented with a wine yeast strain. With a focus on the subtle wine-like character of the grapes, the 9.0% ABV brew maintains a copper color, wine yeast influence and a medium body with a tart and spicy finish.
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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.7/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap for Allagash night at Boneyard Bistro in Sherman Oaks, CA.

Pours a hazy honey brown with a beige head that settles to a film on top of the beer. A foamy curtain of lace lines the glass on the drink down. Smell is of grain/malt, spices, and some fruity aromas. Taste is the same with some yeast flavors and a slight metallic flavor on the finish. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer but the smell is better than the taste. (495 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a slightly dirty golden color with an off white head. Nose brings forth some yeast but mostly a lot of grapes. This carries over into the taste where, despite some yeast and spice, this is almost just a fancy grape juice. Feel consists of a medium body and good carbonation. All together, this is just a bit much and almost tastes like a grape juice mixture. (386 characters)

Photo of brentk56
3.68/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a hazy apricot jam color with a frothy head that shows decent retention and and plenty of lacing

Smell: Muted aromatics, with elements of concord grape, unfermented honey and a cakey aspect

Taste: Starts out with a rather sweet combination of honey and grape flavors; after the swallow, a spicy/yeasty character breaks out and provides for a rather bitter (not in a hoppy way, but more like grape skin character) finish

Mouthfeel: Full, almost syrupy body with moderate carbonation; some warmth on the finish

Drinkability: Interesting experiment but ultimately a failure, in my book; not very drinkable as the balance is out of whack and the flavor profile is just not that enjoyable (705 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
3.95/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer reminded me a little of Dogfish Head's Midas Touch. This brew poured out with a nice golden color to it, the head was white and fluffy. The smell of the grapes on the nose came through nicely and gave this beer a slight wine-like aroma to it. The taste of the beer was on the sweet side and leaves you with a good aftertaste also. The grapes are more sweet than tart I think, either way still pretty nice. The mouthfeel of this beer was well carbonated and had a fairly light body to it. Overall this beer was nice, Probably one of the better Allagash brew I've had. I would drink this one again. (606 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Jay23: Poured a deep hazy copper/orangey color ale with a big foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of sweet malt with light grape taste. Taste is a quite complex mix between some light grapes, sweet Belgian malt with some yeasts attenuation and a light funky finish. Very light notes of oak and tart notes are also noticeable. I find this beer to be quite good but not sure I would purchase very often considering the price tag. (464 characters)

Photo of emerge077
3.55/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy orange tone.
Hawaiian Punch aromas, floral, sweet, grapey, fruity.

Sweet fruit flavors, alot of yeast, some residual bitterness. Not very balanced, much too sweet for my taste. Slight dryness at the end, but the taste lingers on the palate way too long.

Unpleasantly full mouthfeel for the sweet flavors that occur in tandem. It makes it a chore to finish almost, however it doesn't have any attributes that discourage one from drinking it.

Somehow I finished the bottle with some minor help from a friend. Not one I would revisit anytime soon. Allagash bottles alot of their experiments, and this is one I can't recommend. (643 characters)

Photo of oberon
3.83/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a large tulip glass a hazed burnt orange with a large blooming white head that left multiple rings of broken lace behind as it settled slowly.White grape skin really stands out in the nose with what alot of people have mentiones,a sweet cake-like note,a healthy does of herbal hops,and sharp phenols round out the aromas.Phenols play a bigger role on the palate providing spice and sharpness,white grape fruitiness,and herbal hops in the finish.A pretty good rendition of the style,the phenols are a little heavy on the palate for me though. (553 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.28/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to Blake for sending me this one.

A: The pour is almost copper in color with a fluffy, off-white head.

S: A rather intense grape aroma to the beer, but it's almost like super sweet grape jelly or grape juice. Some malt and light yeast in the background with a little bit of pepper and other phenols and esters.

T: The grape flavor really dominates and gives the beer a very sugary sweetness. Some bread and sweet toffee/caramel malts add to the sweetness. A light yeast and pepper bite in the background and a hint of metal.

M: Medium in body with a medium to high carbonation.

O: Just really disappointing. I like that the grape flavor is there, but it's just too sugary. (684 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.14/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a deep copper body with a lush, creamy-looking white head.

Smell: Floral, honey-coated aroma with plenty of yeast, spice, and that ever-present grape character.

Taste: Initially, the flavor is quite sweet with a bready, almost cake-like maltiness and, yes, there's that ever-present grape character, which comes across more as a tart golden raisin flavor. Hops provide a tiny bit of bitterness and a light citrus note. Wraps-up with a semi-sweet, vinous finish that exhibits a fair amount of alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Moderately carbonated. Sticky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Allgash is one of those breweries well-known for always cooking up interesting twists and turns to implement into their brewing. Some of these ideas pay off in beer drinking gold and others, well, they just remain as cute concepts. For me, this is one of the latter. (878 characters)

Photo of TMoney2591
4.12/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a tulip glass at ChurchKey.

Missed this one when it was at Paradiso, so I was jazzed (check out my jazz hands!) to see it at the CK. Everyone deserves a second chance. *single tear* It pours a mostly clear golden straw topped by a half-finger of large white bubbles, though I wouldn't name them (if you catch my drift). The nose comprises white grapes, red grapes, cane sugar, and peaches. I really do like this smell. Yes I do. Yuppers. Anyway, the taste holds notes of white grapes, banana, cloves, a slight bitterness, and an even slighter tartness. ...Is slighter a word?... The body is a light medium, with moderate carbonation and a dry, partially bitter finish. Good times. (691 characters)

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

On-tap 7/9/13 at Track 84 in Warwick, RI, served in a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a light brown color, with a thin off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains Belgian yeast, caramelized malts, apples, grapes, brown sugar and a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out very sweet with flavors of caramel, grapes, apples, brown sugar. Then some mild breadiness comes in from some mildly wild Belgian yeast and a hearty but not too heavy malt character. The hops presence is mild but complementary and brings a good balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, light-to-medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, good kick, good representation of style, this is a solid beer to drink for a while if you’re into beers with wine-like attributes. (877 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
3.35/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2009 750 ml brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap over a cork served into an EKU 28 snifter in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Acquired at Wades Wines in Westlake Village, California. Cost was $18.49 plus tax. Reviewed live.

Expectations are extremely high given the brewery and label description, plus the 2009 vintage.

Served refrigerator cold. Side poured without any extra vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a one finger head of fair cream, nice thickness, and decent retention for the style. Some mild lacing. Nontransparent (but not opaque) dark butterscotch-orange. Nothing strikes me as special or unique, but it's appealing. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Grapes are dominant but subtle, with perhaps a hint of vinegar. Some yeast. Mild indistinct esters. A mild strength clean pleasant aroma.

T: A subtle grape taste over top a clean malt foundation. Some mild esters - maybe a light hint of peach. Quite clean and pleasant. Certainly enjoyable, but not exceptional. No yeast or alcohol comes through. A light cidery note is present. A bit floral, likely from hops. It's certainly subtle, but I wouldn't call it complex. The grapes are pretty light; likely more white than red. A mild brett tone gives it some added complexity but doesn't contribute anything substantial. Well balanced, with a rounded flavour profile. Built decently but timidly.

Mf: Smooth and wet, suiting the flavours nicely. The bretts give it a silky character whilst retaining its full feel. Not too thick nor too thin. Adequately carbonated, even in light of its age. Overall, its nicely complementary of the flavours but doesn't feel tailored to them.

Dr: Drinkable and enjoyable, but a bit boring considering its potential. The ingredients, process, and brewery made me expect a far better beer, but I do like this one. I don't know that aging had a significant effect on the flavour. I'd try this again only if a much older bottle was freely available to me; elsewise it isn't worth the price.

It drank just fine out of me snifter. Would pair well with some foods but not spicy ones. Maybe sweet potato fries would be ideal.

B- (2,180 characters)

Photo of MasterSki
3.36/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

On-tap at Hopleaf. Figured it's easier to part with $6.50 for a tulip than to splurge on a whole bottle. This batch was listed at 9.3%.

A - Pours with a finger of off-white foam that settles to a thick ring and partial cap, leaving behind spotty lace. The body is a hazed pale golden color. Why is this called a "dark" ale?

S - An odd mix of Belgian yeast, pilsener malt, and vinous notes. There are some spicy alcohol esters and stone fruits in there as well. Not entirely successful - like someone blended Chouffe with red wine.

T - A mix of grape juice and Belgian Strong Pale Ale. I actually think the taste works better than the smell, as it's less overtly vinous (although the aftertaste is reminiscent of red wine). There's also a yeasty tang to it.

M - Feel is slick, with medium-low carbonation - consistent with the vinous flavor profile. Finishes lightly sticky. It's a touch thin for the high ABV, but there's no obvious heat which is appreciated.

D - I'm glad I got to try this on-tap, not because it was great, but because I saved myself from buying an expensive bottle. It was passable, and I didn't any problems finishing my tulip. Hope Victor Francenstein is better. (1,188 characters)

Photo of smcolw
3.52/5  rDev -9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Large bubbled head, but not quite at the level of soda pop. Very light lace. Nearly no head after one minute. Light haze to an otherwise gold to amber colored beer.

Earthy smell. No notable hop or "grape".

A classic Belgian flavor of yeast, high alcohol and pale malts. I would not describe this as a dark ale. There is a tartness to the beer that one could associate with grapes, but I would not be able to specifically as grape-like, perhaps it's the tannin. Good body. (473 characters)

Photo of drabmuh
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer is dark brown with a broken thin head that leaves a lot of lacing but didn't have much carbonation.

The aroma is sweet raisin aroma with an almost sour aroma.

This beer has an odd late sweet flavor. The sweetness somehow avoids the front of the palate. There is a slight lactic flavor. There is also an odd yeast character. Overall its smooth. Drinkability if fine. (373 characters)

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, 2009 bottling. A bit of a gusher upon opening. Pours very cloudy orange amber color with a nice 2 finger dense off white head with very good retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Good soapy lacing clings to the glass. Aromas of big grape, apple, pear, biscuit, clove, pepper, grape skin, herbal, earth, honey, caramel, and yeast spiciness. Nice and well balanced aromas with good complexity. Taste of apple, pear, grape, herbal, pepper, biscuit, clove, earth, honey, grape skin, caramel, and yeast spiciness. Slight grape skin tang on the finish; with lingering notes of light fruits, pepper, clove, bread, honey, earth, herbal, and yeast spices on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and flavor complexity; with no cloying flavors at all. Medium carbonation and body; with a lightly slick and syrupy mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with almost no warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Belgian strong pale ale. Fairly unique flavor profile with great balance and flavor complexity; and very smooth to sip on. Really enjoyed this one. (1,132 characters)

Photo of jwc215
3.6/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750 ml cage-corked bottle, poured slowly into a wide-mouth glass, as per instructions on the label.

Pours hazed orange-amber with a white head that slowly becomes a thick swirling patch. Some trailing lace slides down the glass.

The smell is of musty grapes, with a touch of sourbread. Some maltiness in the back. Subtle fruitiness and spiciness mixes in.

The taste is peppery spicing - Alcohol is a bit raw and dominating. Caramelish - almost syrupy - maltiness with bready notes - grapeskin blends in to give it a dry finish.

Full-bodied and thickish. Alcohol is a bit raw on the palate.

Not a bad use of grapes at all - present but in a supportive role - Fairly complex. A very slow one, with some astringency and alcohol making it a bit tough to get through. Interesting. (780 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours golden-orange with a white head. The aroma is citrus with some grape notes. The flavor is heavy on the grapes along with some nice citrus flavors. There is some alcohol detectable as well as some Belgian yeast character. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. (276 characters)

Photo of GClarkage
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

09/05/07- Purchased at Bottle Barn in Santa Rosa, CA.

Presentation- 750ml bottle, both caged and corked. Poured into my St. Bernardus chalice.

Appearance- Off golden-orange colored pour with a 3/4 inch head. Larger bubbled head that settles at a nice 1/4 inch. Lacing it spotty and streaky.

Smell- Confectioniers sugar, muscat grapes, corriander and various light dark fruits.

Taste- Pretty much the smell to a "T". Good chunk of added sugars, lighter sweet white grape flavors with maybe some dark plums added as well. Lightly hopped to round it out.

Mouthfeel- A bit higher in the carbonation level. Sweet mouthcoating.

Drinkability- Overall a good all around beer...better than average for sure....but I think my days are over of paying these exorbitant prices for Allagash special releases. I still have the Interlude and the Musette to have very soon...both cost more than $15 a pop...the jury remains in session until then. (935 characters)

Photo of Huhzubendah
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Hazy yellow with decent head and some lace.

S: Sweet, with a very present grape aroma.

T: Tasty grapes. Well done. The sweetness, however, becomes too much fairly quickly. This is a decent beer to split a few ways.

M: Decent carbonation level. Ok feel. Again, a bit sweet throughout.

D: A small sample is sufficient. I'm glad I tried it, but don't feel compelled to try this one again. (392 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.48/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

The beer pours into my 25cl tulip glass with a hazy, orangish tinged, copper color and is topped by an initially three-finger thick, light tan colored head. The aroma is quite fruity smelling, with berry notes being the most prominent; currants, blackberries and raisins all form the most noticeable characteristics of the aroma. Underneath this though is a sort of saw dust, almost nutty (but not really), what seems to be malt derived character. I also get notes of biscuit malt and lightly toasted grain when I really concentrate on the aromatic components. The grape character definitely plays a prominent role in the aroma; even the skin seems to add some tannic, almost cherry-skin aromatic components.

Fairly sweet up front, and it gets even a bit more sweet as the beer passes through my mouth. Fruity notes are accentuated by the sweetness and remind me of currants, blackberries, a touch of concord grape jam, tart / sweet plums, . The grape skins have certainly contributed to the flavor profile; a certain tannic quality, as well as a pithy astringency, plus some chewy cherry skin flavors, as well as kiwi like note. Really this is a bit too sweet and fruit tasting.

This somehow seems to fizz in the end, the grape flavors just don't add up to a complexity of flavor; what really seems to be the problems is that the grape / berry notes are too dominant, the underlying beer flavors don't play enough of a role for a beer this clean. Did I mention that this beer is fairly clean, it really could use quite a bit more funk to it; a touch of Brett might make this beer sublime. (1,595 characters)

Photo of BARFLYB
3.87/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On Tap At capone's from a 2007 keg.

A- Victor has a hazy copper slighty lighter amber in color. Some white fizzy head on top that faded leaving no lace.

S- This one is all about the grapes and the malt. Big scents of grapes (chancellor I believe) with malts and some begian yeast. This comes off like a slightly sweet wine. Some faded hoppy earth in the background.

T-A taste of vinious grapes with a underlining Belgian sweetness from the malt. The grape taste is big but not cloying or overly sweet, I think this 2 year old version is at a good point in it's life although I have not had this fresh. A spicy finish with some warmth from the 10%.

M&D- Victor goes down easy enough although the 10 percent is a bit easy to detect. This goes down pretty smooth for a medium sized semi sweet beer, the carb was on point as well, not overly crisp. Im glad i tried it on tap as a whole bottle would have been a chore. Perhaps i'll buy a fresh bottle and share with friends. (973 characters)

Photo of tdm168
4.05/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Busy Bee in Raleigh

A - copper with a thin lacing of white head; little retention

S - winy, white grapes

T - grapes, wheat, mild bitter hops, faint bread

M - medium bodied, smooth, well carbonated, a bit viscous

This is a decent beer. It doesn't have a Belgian yeast character to it and it has a nice balanced flavor. Perfect to sip from the tulip amongst friends. (379 characters)

Photo of Halcyondays
4.09/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at Beachwood BBQ,

A: Pours a medium orange with a finger of white head, some good lace. Don't know why this is considered a BSDA, it's just a shade darker than Victoria.

S: Lots of tropical fruit, I got some mango, passion fruit, and grapes.

T: Orange fruit and stone fruit, the beer isn't really dark; it's just a different incarnation of a BSPA. Fruit salad like in flavour, the yeast is quite light, not a huge complexity.

M: As with the Victoria, medium-bodied with soft carbonation, quite drinkable.

D: A quality product from Allagash, but a pass at the $17-20 they're asking. At those prices to rebuy, a beer needs to have a 5 in taste. Good beer, just overpriced. (682 characters)

Photo of billab914
3.61/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Lost Abbey stemware. It poured a dark amber color with a thick and frothy white head filling 1/3 of the glass. The head settled a bit but left some very good, thick lacing on the sides of the glass as I` drank it.

The aroma shows a lot of the grapes to it. A clean, slightly grainy pilsner malt comes through along with just a bit of an earthy spice from the European hops.

The taste also shows a pretty strong grape flavor to it as well. It has a bit of a grape juice flavor to it. A little bit of the pilsner malt comes through with a slightly grainy quality in the finish. The grapes are really the main flavor going on though.

The mouthfeel is a little above medium bodied and carbonation is also a bit above average. Drinkability is pretty decent, the grapes added some nice and interesting flavors to it. It felt a bit one dimensional with the grape juice flavors but at the same time they did a nice job at making those flavors work so well in a beer. A cool beer I'm glad I got to try. (1,034 characters)

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Allagash Victor Ale from Allagash Brewing Company
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