Allagash Victor Ale - Allagash Brewing Company

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Allagash Victor AleAllagash Victor Ale

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very good

422 Ratings
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Ratings: 422
Reviews: 155
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 10.03%
Wants: 23
Gots: 72 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Allagash Brewing Company visit their website
Maine, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: akorsak on 06-10-2007

The Victor Ale was inspired by its feminine-named predecessor, the Victoria Ale. With chardonnay grapes to make the Victoria Ale unique, our brewers decided to use red grapes for the Victor. Over one hundred pounds of cabernet franc grapes were crushed on site and added directly to the mash. In addition to a generous portion of Pilsner malt, Victor is hopped with Fuggles and Hallertau and fermented with a wine yeast strain. With a focus on the subtle wine-like character of the grapes, the 9.0% ABV brew maintains a copper color, wine yeast influence and a medium body with a tart and spicy finish.
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Photo of tdm168
4.05/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Busy Bee in Raleigh

A - copper with a thin lacing of white head; little retention

S - winy, white grapes

T - grapes, wheat, mild bitter hops, faint bread

M - medium bodied, smooth, well carbonated, a bit viscous

This is a decent beer. It doesn't have a Belgian yeast character to it and it has a nice balanced flavor. Perfect to sip from the tulip amongst friends.

Photo of rfgetz
3.7/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a lightly hazed golden orange color, whispy plume of white head, gone quickly leaving some spots. Scent bring unfermented grape must, a light spicy yeast presence and some peppery spice, hints of sweet watery fruit and some bready charachter. Taste controlled by tart grape must, spicy, honey like sweetness, minimal grain charachter. Medium bodied, moderately carbonated. Strong grape and spice notes, lacks delicate notes.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.7/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap for Allagash night at Boneyard Bistro in Sherman Oaks, CA.

Pours a hazy honey brown with a beige head that settles to a film on top of the beer. A foamy curtain of lace lines the glass on the drink down. Smell is of grain/malt, spices, and some fruity aromas. Taste is the same with some yeast flavors and a slight metallic flavor on the finish. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer but the smell is better than the taste.

Photo of kojevergas
3.35/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2009 750 ml brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap over a cork served into an EKU 28 snifter in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Acquired at Wades Wines in Westlake Village, California. Cost was $18.49 plus tax. Reviewed live.

Expectations are extremely high given the brewery and label description, plus the 2009 vintage.

Served refrigerator cold. Side poured without any extra vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a one finger head of fair cream, nice thickness, and decent retention for the style. Some mild lacing. Nontransparent (but not opaque) dark butterscotch-orange. Nothing strikes me as special or unique, but it's appealing. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Grapes are dominant but subtle, with perhaps a hint of vinegar. Some yeast. Mild indistinct esters. A mild strength clean pleasant aroma.

T: A subtle grape taste over top a clean malt foundation. Some mild esters - maybe a light hint of peach. Quite clean and pleasant. Certainly enjoyable, but not exceptional. No yeast or alcohol comes through. A light cidery note is present. A bit floral, likely from hops. It's certainly subtle, but I wouldn't call it complex. The grapes are pretty light; likely more white than red. A mild brett tone gives it some added complexity but doesn't contribute anything substantial. Well balanced, with a rounded flavour profile. Built decently but timidly.

Mf: Smooth and wet, suiting the flavours nicely. The bretts give it a silky character whilst retaining its full feel. Not too thick nor too thin. Adequately carbonated, even in light of its age. Overall, its nicely complementary of the flavours but doesn't feel tailored to them.

Dr: Drinkable and enjoyable, but a bit boring considering its potential. The ingredients, process, and brewery made me expect a far better beer, but I do like this one. I don't know that aging had a significant effect on the flavour. I'd try this again only if a much older bottle was freely available to me; elsewise it isn't worth the price.

It drank just fine out of me snifter. Would pair well with some foods but not spicy ones. Maybe sweet potato fries would be ideal.

B-

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.61/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Nostradamous flute glass. Pours a clear orange yellow amber, honey colored. One finger medium white head with good retention and nice lacing. Looks nice. Mild aroma of apples, light malt and a hint of Belgian spicing. Taste is light malt, apple juice, Belgian yeast with a somewhat dry finish where the vinous characteristics show up. Medium bodied. An interesting, not very complex Belgian style ale. I like the vinous finish less than most Belgians ales. An obviously well made ale that just did not suit my palate.

Photo of rudzud
3.43/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled at a Julio's tasting. Reviewed from notes.

A - Pours a hazy reddish straw hue with a a nice head that quickly faded to a thin cloud with no lacing.

S - Smell isnt that bad. Light vinous notes (red wine) but mostly bready yeast and malts.

T - Similar to the nose with a bit better on the cabernet notes. Nice fruit notes but alot of the bready yeast qualities again. Yeasty wine. I've had better.

M - Mouthfeel isnt bad. Crisp, dry on the tongue.

O - Overall, not my favorite Allagash by far. I prefer Victoria better, the grapes are intergrated a bit more. This meanwhile was a yeasty mess.

Photo of grover37
3.57/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle bought at the brewery for about $17 back in July 2010. Split into two Allaglasses.

Appearance (3): Hazy copper organge with two fingers of off-white head. Reduces to a very thin layer with swaths of lacing.

Aroma (3.5): Yeast forward with bready notes. Some light red wine as well.

Taste (3.5): Vinuous and yeasty. Fruity with cranberry and plum perhaps. Really interesting and unique flavors but a bit tannic; has gotten better with time.

Mouthfeel (4.5): Pretty light for 9% and the alcohol doesn't show. Pretty effervescent but not overly so - accents the flavors nicely. Medium body and medium to high carbonation.

Overall (3.5): Different but not something that I will go out of my way for. I like it with some age on it, but fresh it wasn't very enjoyable.

Photo of lonestar4lunch
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2010 vintage. Pours a red tinted straw color with a head that quickly settles to a light lacing that never goes away. There is a light aroma that is mostly grapes and some grains. The tastes is just a bit sweet but it allows this to be very easy to drink. There is a couple other light fruit flavors hidden in there but nothing that really stands out for me. Each sip is lighter than the other. The 9% is well hidden. Overall, another quality selection from Allagash. Really enjoyed this one even though it was a bit sweet, but to be expected.

Photo of Sam21
4.06/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle, 2011 vintage, purchased for ~$19 at Domaney's in Great Barrington, MA. Poured into tulip.

Appearance- Brilliant copper body showing brown highlights - no doubt, a result of the Cabernet Franc grapes. Tight head with excellent retention. Picture perfect lacing as well.

Smell- Sweet aroma. Purple grapes, sweet apple, and some light caramel notes beneath. There are some yeasty aromas as well adding balancing spices to the mix.

Taste- Yeasty clove and subtle phenolic flavors stand up front. The clove spice carries right through into the finish and balances out what I expected to be an overly sweet beer. The sweetness is present, but clings to the tongue's anterior taste buds while the spice commands the center stage. Dark tangy sweet grapes are more prominent in the finish and come together with the yeast for a wonderfully balanced and dry finish. Sweet, tangy, and balanced. The alcohol is expertly integrated. Noticeable as the beer warms, but subtle.

Mouth Feel- Victor sports a medium body with full mouth filling carbonation. Soft, yet active.

Drinkability- This is a wonderful strong Belgian-style pale. It has strong base malt notes and spicy additions from the yeast. The Cabernet grapes add tangy sweet flavors and are a solid addition. An expensive beer, but worth the money. Allagash does it again.

Photo of oberon
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a large tulip glass a hazed burnt orange with a large blooming white head that left multiple rings of broken lace behind as it settled slowly.White grape skin really stands out in the nose with what alot of people have mentiones,a sweet cake-like note,a healthy does of herbal hops,and sharp phenols round out the aromas.Phenols play a bigger role on the palate providing spice and sharpness,white grape fruitiness,and herbal hops in the finish.A pretty good rendition of the style,the phenols are a little heavy on the palate for me though.

Photo of BucannonXC5
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a draft into a tulip glass at Downtown Johnny Brown’s in San Diego, Calif. Color was dark caramel amber. Maybe an inch of head. Lacing was consistent throughout on the top, as was the film on the sides.

Smell was fruity aromas, most notably peach and plum. Grapes came in strong after. Also some cloves in there.

Taste seemed to be similar to a Saison. Fruity deep flavors with dark fruits (grapes) and cloves leading the way.

Medium body. Lively carbonation. Crisp and clean.

A pretty good beer overall. It doesn't taste as strong as the 9.0 percent, so watch out.

Photo of Knapp85
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer reminded me a little of Dogfish Head's Midas Touch. This brew poured out with a nice golden color to it, the head was white and fluffy. The smell of the grapes on the nose came through nicely and gave this beer a slight wine-like aroma to it. The taste of the beer was on the sweet side and leaves you with a good aftertaste also. The grapes are more sweet than tart I think, either way still pretty nice. The mouthfeel of this beer was well carbonated and had a fairly light body to it. Overall this beer was nice, Probably one of the better Allagash brew I've had. I would drink this one again.

Photo of Meeg
4.38/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I'm stuck in Cleveland, reading my buddy's Facebook posts about his beer tour in New England, which included a stop in my Promised Land... The Barrel Room at Allagash Brewery. What else to do but open a bottle of my Allagash stash?

2009 vintage poured into an Allagash stemmed-glass, consumed while playing hookey and attempting to make progress on my bathroom remodel, listening to WEEI.

Aside from the bitter taste of the discussion about the Red Sox' epic collapse...

Beautiful pale golden color, with a nice, subtle grape scent. Grapes on the tongue, lasting through to the end, pleasantly reminiscent of Dogfish's Midas Touch (a favorite). A not-too light, definitely-not-heavy mouthfeel, matching the best belgians.

I'm happy, and I made progress in the bathroom remodel. Allagash always helps.

Oh! It was gusher, but I hadn't cooled it before opening. A rookie mistake. Don't open at 70 degrees, or you'll lose a bit of beer.

Photo of BEERMILER12
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2011 bottle

A: Pours a clear golden yellow color with a nice big head that sticks around for quite a while

S: Some yeast to start things off, along with a sweetness that can be attributed to the grapes, some light malts and a light hop presence

T: Can definitely pick out the wine-like yeast strain as it isn't too fruity, but still imparts a good vinous and fruit-like character. Following up is a nice bit of malt with a touch of sweetness and light spicy hops to round it off. Alcohol is present throughout, but doesn't detract flavor from any single element

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. A touch under-carbonated, if anything

O: A nice hybrid-type beer that definitely stays in the beer realm, but captures some nice wine-like qualities. The red grapes used impart a subtle sweetness that isn't too overbearing, and the wine yeast strain doesn't overpower the beer qualities. Very nicely done

Photo of ThePorterSorter
4.05/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Finally cracking open the bottle

Appearance:
Golden honey with a light and plentiful white head. There is no haze and ample lacing. This is a very well carbonated beer.

Smell:
Light aromas of honey and grapes mixed with some spice. Very sweet beer with almost no hints of bitter or alcohol. Tremendous yeast character, smells yummy.

Taste:
A well restrained grape with golden malt and balanced spices. This is a very summery sipper that would easily take you by surprise with its deceptively high abv. An aftertaste light as honey followed by a slightly bitter spiciness.

Mouthfeel:
Light and refreshing beer that leans a little towards having a medium body. This beer is just the right amount of sour and dry. The bite from the alcohol is minimal and carbonation is plentiful throughout.

Overall:
I'm grateful for already having tried this beer in Portland on tap and bottle poured already. I was lookin for the perfect wine-beer hybrid to share with my father and this seems to have done the trick. Although the beer is pricy it's absolutely worth the money if you are searching for a flavorful Belgian style ale sweetly blended with grapes, or just a good beer in general.

Photo of perrymarcus
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml corked and caged bottle served in a snifter.
2011 vintage.

pours a mostly clear golden tone while yielding a frothy two fingers or so of an off-white head. good retention and lacing.

nose offers a lot of grape and apple, with notes of yeast, malt, and maybe a touch of hops in the background. nice, though nothing extraordinary.

flavor delivers more of the same. good doses of grape, with some secondary fruity characteristics (apples, maybe a bit of citrus), some yeastiness and a sturdy malt presence. some booze, but not enough to significantly impact the beer. medium bodied in the mouth with adequate carbonation.

overall, very solid beer. no 'wow' factor per se, but pretty damn tasty. i'm enjoying it quite a bit.

Photo of beerhan
4.18/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle, 2009 vintage.

Poured into a snifter, golden color with medium medium carbonation. Small white head that fades fast.

Smells very sugary and sweet. Almost like a sugar daddy with some grapes. A little yeastiness to it but nothing overpowering.

Taste is incredible. I came into this beer with low expectations but I thought it tasted fantastic. Most belgian pales have an overdominating yeast taste to it but this one is rather subtle. There is some grape in the after taste that is delicious and its sweet but not bitter.

Quite drinkable but could use a little more carbonation. It is almost like a bitter juice rather than a sweet beer at some times.

Overall this is one nice beer. Worth trying once or twice but not really worth 11 dollars.

Photo of scruffwhor
3.7/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This corked and caged 750ml bottle has been aging in my "cellar" for about four years.

Just a slightly hazey copper and amber colored beer with a quick head and sparse bubbling.

The taste has lots of toasted malt flavors, really enhancing the caramel taste of this beer. The grape, sweet viney mix with the caramel flavors works well.

The palate is a little syrupy, sweet, but the carbonation cuts teh syrupy mouthfeel for a little balance. Just a little noticeable warmth from the alcohol. Rather mellow overall.

Photo of AgentZero
3.2/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Copper/yellow color with a fluffy whitish head that left a little bit of stick on the sides.

S - Smells like grape jelly or grape juice, lots of grapes in here. Malty backbone is pretty buried by the grapes, and there's some estery smells as well.

T - Sugary grape sweetness over some caramel malts, but this is so grape forward it's almost a waste of beer, just drink juice at a cheaper cost. Little bit of spice and yeast in the background.

M - Medium bodied with fairly active carbonation.

O - I don't really feel like drinking this one again. I like grape juice just fine, but juice is juice, beer should seem more like beer.

Photo of Blanco
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The color is slightly pink with a white head. smell is of the grapes and other fruity tones, with slight hint of belgian style yeasts. Flavor is sweet, but not cloyingly so. more grape. very light mouthfeel. overall, solid beer, but nowhere near the price tag i paid for it though.

Photo of biegaman
3.46/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

On-tap at Public House, in San Francisco.

The beer is brewed with purple cabernet franc grapes but it looks more like a golden delicious apple, and certainly nothing like the beverage typically made with those grapes. The complexion is pale enough that it should be clear but is actually distorted. While its head is thin, it forms permafrost lacing that leaves that glass looking like arctic tundra.

This doesn't smell as exclusive as it aught to given its specs; there's little barrel character and surprisingly little grape flavour. The malts are plain and have a stale, almost corn-like tint to them. Usually barrel-aged beers make for the most engaging, bewildering scents but this one is, well, kind of bleh. It grew almost nauseating as the alcohol began to show.

The flavour is more reminiscent of apple cider than it is grape wine. In fact, I'm unable to note much grape character at all and I'm going out of my way to look for it! About the only likeness this has to any wine is a residual sugariness and sweet apple-y finish - more what you'd expect from something like a Semillon than a Cabernet Sauvignon or Merlot.

Then again, what would be the point in it tasting like a wine? There are far more significant things to fuss over, like the fact that its maltiness and hops and yeast - the elements that define a beer - are all either subdued or somewhat off-putting. This tastes like nothing more than an average Belgian blonde (that hardly rivals even the more commercial examples of such). For the price I paid and all the theatrics behind it, I expected something less generic.

There are many beers not brewed with grapes that rival the complexity and elegance of even the finest wines; this one, however, barely even affords the simple quaffability of an average beer. Allagash has proven they know what they're doing with barrels so perhaps it's my own tastes that account for my disappointment with this offering. Either way, this is not a cheap beer and a 750ml bottle is quite a commitment - it's not something I'll be buying again.

Photo of impending
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The Trappist. Served in an Allagash glass. Nice clear moderately dark amber with a minor white head which subsided to the edge fairly quick, ok lacing.

Nice complexity to the nose. Yeasty and estery with a subtle vinous overtone. The notes while blending are somewhat discordant, encouraging much unsure sniffing.

Flavor is a pleasant surprise. The grapes are obvious but not necessarily in a wine fashion until the aftertaste begins settling slowly. Grains and yeast carry the flavor through. Thin creamy mouthfeel.

Compared to Victoria, this has an extra dimension of complexity which gives it a subtle nod.
cheers
jd

Photo of womencantsail
3.28/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to Blake for sending me this one.

A: The pour is almost copper in color with a fluffy, off-white head.

S: A rather intense grape aroma to the beer, but it's almost like super sweet grape jelly or grape juice. Some malt and light yeast in the background with a little bit of pepper and other phenols and esters.

T: The grape flavor really dominates and gives the beer a very sugary sweetness. Some bread and sweet toffee/caramel malts add to the sweetness. A light yeast and pepper bite in the background and a hint of metal.

M: Medium in body with a medium to high carbonation.

O: Just really disappointing. I like that the grape flavor is there, but it's just too sugary.

Photo of avalon07
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a tulip glass. Had a bright orange color and a cloudy consistency. There was a big, foamy, long-lasting head. Above average lacing.

S: A big aroma of fruit, hops, and a bit of yeast.

T: This is an interesting flavor. There are elements of citrus, hops, malt, yeast, and a vinous quality. It may be a bit on the unfocused side, but it's still a lively flavor.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a smooth, creamy finish. Light to medium-bodied.

O: I'm not going to say this is my favorite Allagash brew, but it is a solidly made, flavorful beer.

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.42/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle of the 2009 vintage pours a very hazed, dark gold color with a short-lived tan head. Lacing just ok.

Nose is heavy on the grapes, I am guessing white...has a buttery chardonnay smell. Really not a whole lot else going on...maybe some bready yeast and floral hops.

The yeast is much more prevalent than I expected on the flavor. Uber-bready, and I am surprised there is not a big fruit ester surge, grapes pretty much stand alone in that regard. Hops are there aplenty and kind of muddle things up a bit. Malts are toasty and crackery, light toffee. Spicy and phenolic, light acidity and some grape tannins. Interesting to say the least, although I am not sure I would buy it again…even at half the $17 price tag.

Allagash Victor Ale from Allagash Brewing Company
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