Ommegang Cup O Kyndnes (Cup Of Kindness) - Brewery Ommegang

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Reviews: 170
Hads: 242
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 8.09%
Wants: 12
Gots: 14 | FT: 0
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New York, United States

Style | ABV
Scottish Ale |  6.60% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: akorsak on 08-05-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

The Belgian-Scotch brewing connection dates to WWI, when thousands of Scotsmen spent years in Belgium. To satisfy the new customers, Belgian brewers learned to brew lighter "Scotch" style ales. This fine Ommegang ale uses heather tips and a wee bit of smoked malt to bring the taste and aroma of Scotland to the forefront. "Malty, full body, dark, slightly smoky, with heather notes. Flavorful and aromatic, with a gentle complexity and easy-going finish."
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Photo of Sammy
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyable for the style, and a great history of Belgian Scottish style. What the Scots brewed in Belgium.The yeast hlps. Mahogoney with off-white bubbly head that's big. Some smoke in the aroma, its electrical fire smoke. An easy mouthfeel, easy drinking. Understated yeast. (274 characters)

Photo of GRG1313
3.43/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Copper red/brown with a nice off white head.

Nose is restrained esters, cooked stone fruit, sweet carnuba wax, hints of Belgian candi sugar. and which gives way to some smoke and sweet roasted grain as it warms.

Mouthfeel is thin but fresh, crisp and well carbonated.

Flavor profile is perfect for mouthfeel. Hints of smoke, roasted grains, charred beef, that goes to a coffee smoked bitter finish.

Flavors are short in the mouth which is detracting but the finish is nice, smoked, bitter and lengthy. (509 characters)

Photo of kylehay2004
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Single finger head with scattered lacing in a murky amber body. Nice lacing. Aroma is toffee, caramel, candy sugar and sour cherry. Flavor follows with cherry, caramel malts, candy sugar and toasted malts. Mollasses and toffee late in the finish. Medium body and moderate carbonation. Nice maltiness for the style. Light on the hops. A few surprise notes for the style. (369 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.1/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

On tap at Rustico. Poured into a tulip.

Pours near black with a thin light tan head. A bit of lacing, although not much at all. Smells like roasted malt with a bit of dark fruits. Taste brings white a bit of roasted malt with hints of coffee. Not much going on. Feel is overly dry and a bit thin. Drinkability is okay, but really not a very good example of the style in my opinion. (382 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Mostly a Scottish Ale but with the added complexities provided by the Belgian yeasts give a berry-like fruitiness and balanced spicy character.

Pouring a dense mohogany brown color, the beer looks like both a Belgian Dubbel and a typical Scottish Ale. Lightly tanned foam forms an even blanket across the beer, retains very well, and laces with intermitten pockets of foam on the glass.

Malty/peaty richness provides the foundation for aroma while fruity berries apples swirl with white pepper and orange zest spiciness for an ultimately complex scent.

Flavors of toast and toffee give just enought robust taste and sweetness to round out the peaty (almost smokey) phenolic notes. Again, apples and ripe berries layer on the malts and allow for varying taste with each sip. Balanced by zesty spices, the beer takes on a Belgiany-tawny impression. As most Scottish ales do, this ale balances well with its own malty complexities and doesn't need hops or added spice for roundness or complexity.

A full and creamy start makes a quick transition to lightness and high drinkability. Alcohol makes minimal impact. It's amazing how these Scottish ales give such a thick early impression but then suddenly thins out for a remarkably smooth finish- seemingly impossible.

For a brewery who doesn't specialize in Scottish Ales, they nail the base style and provide the perfect spring board for their Belgian influence. (1,413 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was very excited to try this brew, I couldn't wait to see how Ommegang was gonna brew up a Scottish Ale. I feel they did a pretty nice job on it. The beer poured out as a deep amber color, with a thick foamy tan head. The lacing was decent on the glass. The smell of the beer was very malty and had a bit of peat and earth in there. Totally different than all of Ommegang's other releases. The taste of the beer has a solid malt body to it with some earth in the aftertaste. The mouthfeel is thick and smooth. Overall I enjoyed the beer quite a bit. I would drink this one again. (581 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Slightly more cranberry red than tangerine orange, with an expansive and creamilicious cap of golden ecru colored lovliness. An abundance of stickiness leads to an abundance of lace. Funny how that works.

The aroma delivers caramel, musky fruit skins, a sweet nuttiness and a gentle push of smoke. Heather tips aren't appreciated so far. Looks like the boys from Cooperstown have done their homework with what is not a classically Belgian style.

Even though it says 'Scotch Ale' on the neck label, Cup O Kyndnes is really more of a Scottish ale, as indicated above. It isn't malty enough, sweet enough or full-bodied enough to be a member of the bigger style. With an ABV of 6.6%, it's obvious that Brewery Ommegang never intended it to be.

My first impression is that this is relatively subtle beer. It doesn't bowl the drinker over with a bagpipes blast of flavor, but there's something good goin' on in each mouthful. Palate fatigue should not be an issue and all 750 ml will be gone long before sundown.

The flavor profile includes brown bread with a thick layer of fruit marmalade and a thin layer of caramel, a modest tea leaf bitterness, sugared pecans, and a few tendrils of wood smoke. Heather tips have to be contributing, but they aren't easily identified.

The mouthfeel is touch-and-go between 3.5 and 4.0. In the end, it does just enough in terms of size, expansiveness, hang-on and mouth energy to earn the bigger number.

Cup O Kyndnes Traditional Belgian-Style Scotch Ale is not my favorite Ommegang ale, but it's a damn fine example of the style. Even though a second bottle is probably not in the cards, this is proving to be an enjoyable experience. Which makes it worth... whatever was spent. (1,718 characters)

Photo of mikesgroove
4.18/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

ruby amber with a nice clarity to it and adequate carbonation visible trickling up from the bottom of the glass. This gathered at the top and combined to form a delicate head

nice delicate notes of nuts and caramel were mixed and intertwined with a deeply rooted grain filled back. This was a malt monster for sure as the only thing that was easily picked up through all this was the dark roasted malts that made up the majority of it. nice bit of caramel and sweetness right from the start and this really never faded as any other flavors that were here simply mingled and swirled around this. There were hints of roasted nuts as well (636 characters)

Photo of oberon
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my Isle of Arran glass a deep mahagony brown with a fluffy one finger off white head,aromas of Belgian yeast (most know what that is),slight smoked meat,and brown sugar.Flavors start out somewhat dry in its herbalness and light smoke,the dark fruit and sweetish alcohol comes late and into the finish.A mix of Belgian yeast and Scottish peat maltines,not overly sweet or herbal,pretty darn good. (407 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.28/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11 ounce goblet - $8.75 at Taco Mac in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Dispensed a dark brown body, some darkened amber tones at the edges, and capped with a slim, off-white head.

Smell: Sweetish nose of toasted bread paired with caramel, dark brown sugar and cocoa, and mingled with a welcome whiff of clean smoke and notes of dark fruits and spice akin to nutmeg and cinnamon.

Taste: Toasted bread layered in caramelized sugars given an additionally sweet sprinkling of date sugar and Nesquik chocolate powder on top. Fruity mix of dates, Bing cherries, and green raisins. Quick flourishes of ground spices. Underlying smokey peat malt character takes a bit of warmth to come out. Lightly earthiness with a little bit of bitterness lurking inside. Dry maltiness and a bit more fruit on the smooth, warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium-light carbonation. Nearly sticky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Quite nice. Personally, I never got much from the Belgian yeast underneath all the maltiness and smokey peat, not that that detracts from the pleasantness of the beer. (1,081 characters)

Photo of TMoney2591
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a becher at ChurchKey.

Reading the description of this guy on the CK menu forced me to try it. It pours a translucent garnet topped by a finger of ecru foam. The nose comprises black cherries, maple syrup, brown sugar, molasses, and a fairly nice couple slices o' honey-baked ham. The taste changed things up a bit, with notes of moss, molasses, orange rind, grapefruit peel, some very light charcoal, and some light, tart berries and black cherry. Honestly, it's a bit fruitier than I imagined it would be. The body is medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a dry, almost syrupy feel. Overall, an interesting brew, one I'm glad I got to try, but one I don't really see myself looking for again in the near future. (732 characters)

Photo of jlindros
3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap@ armsby abbey.

A huge fluffy head makes the pour take a few minutes. It slowly fades leaving a fluffy messy Belgian style head and lacing over the dark reddish brown hazy mohogany.

The nose has some Belgian malts, and some syrupy sweetness, a little candi sugar, a light Belgian strong aroma, burnt molasses and a touch of a fruit like aroma. Little toffee too.

Taste is similar with some creamy dark malts, light sweetness and little syrupy flavor, and a boozy taste but not boozy feel. Some light nifty tastes, a little burnt brown sugar and toffee. A slight bitterness too perhaps from the roasty malts and caramelized sugar. Finishes with some sweetness and little sticky syrupy taste. Some lingering creamy malts and sugars too. Light herbal bitterness.

Mouth is heavier and creamy but not super thick, a little syrupy and decent carbonation.

The drinkability is so so with the thick syrupy coat the mouth feel andthe booze tastes a lot higher than it really is. (984 characters)

Photo of mactrail
3.28/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Should give an award for the robust, long-lasting foam. It does make for a sprightly, mouth-filling brew. Dark amber in the chalice. Fair amount of malt with rich roasted flavors. Not much aroma. Burnt raisin flavors. Some hops in the mix.

I guess I'm not clear on the concept here. The Belgian yeasty flavors detract rather than add to the Scotch elements. I don't find this very exciting, but it does reveal its charms slowly. Better as it sizzles in the glass for a while, and then have another creamy slurp. (512 characters)

Photo of Rifugium
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

First had: on tap at Pinocchio's, Media, PA

Pours a cloudy mahogany with a nice finger of foamy white head that retains well. Earthy aroma, with notes of sweet malts, sugar, and dark fruits. Sweetness in the taste, toasty malts, a bit medicinal, cherries and raisins, and some toffee and peat. Mild spices and little hops to speak of. Medium mouthfeel, and fairly drinkable. (375 characters)

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.37/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

cup o' kindness Traditional Belgian-style Scotch Ale (is that a thing?)

Murky brown appearance, under a creamy-toned, lace leaving, luscious head. Looking good.

Aroma: sweet, nutty, caramel and toffee notes, chocolate malt aplenty. Floral and heather-y, no hops to be found. Gorgeous.

Taste: why, yes, let's drink 'er up. Lightly bitter bracing entry on the palate, a little funky and sour, tingles the tongue, then lets loose the lush malty flavor. I'm a bit surprised, and thought I'd get nothing but sweet malt from this one. I like it. Great little trick on the tongue, then all is mellow and groovy.

Not too high in alcohol, but exceptionally warming

I'll take a cup of kindness yet, in days of auld lang...how's that song go? (737 characters)

Photo of drabmuh
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had to order based on the name alone. Beer is dark brown and really hazy, lots and lots of lacing from a pretty big head. Scottish ale eh...looks fine.

Aroma is mild malt, some sweetness, some smokiness.

Beer is overall very smokey, a little too much for my palate unfortunately. There is some sweetness in there as well, finishes a little dry, some roasty / smokey bitterness in the back. Its OK, I doubt I'd have it again. (426 characters)

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 8/2/2010. Pours lightly hazy dark brick red color with a nice 1-2 finger dense light khaki head with great retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings to the glass. Aromas of big molasses, raisin, toffee, toast, caramel, chocolate, pepper, earth, clove, floral, and yeast spiciness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity. Taste of raisin, pear, molasses, toffee, toast, chocolate, biscuit, caramel, nuttiness, pepper, earth, floral, and yeast spiciness. Lingering notes of raisin, molasses, toffee, toast, chocolate, nuttiness, pepper, and earth on the finish for a good bit. Great complexity and balance of flavors that are nicely robust; zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with almost zero warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is an excellent scotch ale with a Belgian twist. Very well balanced, robust, and complex; very smooth to sip on. Really enjoyed this one. Glad I was finally able to try it. (1,109 characters)

Photo of WesWes
3.77/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a dark, ruby red color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is great! It has a killer caramel and smoked malt scent along with hints of heather tips and some excellent yeast esters. It's quite complex. I love how the yeast fruitiness enhances the smoked malt character. The taste is good. It has a dry, smokey taste up front. It goes down rather thin and finishes dry with some yeast and heather character. It was hoping for a fuller body. It's really quite thin for a Scotch ale. The mouthfeel is decent. It is a medium bodied beer with adequate/good carbonation. This is a good concept beer, but I feel it could be better with a thicker/fuller body and some additional burnt toffee malt flavor. (742 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Glad to see this beer in DFW.

The beer pours a medium, slightly hazy brown color with a tan head. The aroma is very nice. I get some notes of dark fruit and caramel, as well as some alcohol - which is a bit surprising since this beer is only 6.6 percent.

The taste is more of the same, with a few welcome additions. I get some more dark fruit and caramel, but I also get some peet-smoked malt. The alcohol is present again in the flavor.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. (484 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A solid pour into my Lost Abbey Teku glass produces a three-finger thick, pale amber tinged, light tan colored head, that leaves a nice layered lacing pattern on the sides of my glass. The beer is a dark, concentrated amber hue that shows up; when held up to the light the beer shows a clear, light ruby color with gold highlights around the edges. The aroma smells sweet, fruity and candy like in some ways; this last is accentuated by a very faint spiciness in the finish that makes me think of the spices used in dessert (clove and woody allspice). There is also a rich maltiness to this beer that brings out aromas of toasted grain, deeply caramelized sugars, an almost spiciness that seems brown grain (sort of like rye) derived.

The beer isn't nearly as sweet as the aroma made it seem to be and has a nice rich, toasted malt character and brown bread crust character; somehow the malt richness seems a bit thin somehow, it is not really a complexity thing, but somehow it seems like it is missing a bit of something. Still, there is quite a bit of complexity here that contributes a solid brown grain spiciness, lots of toasted whole grain bread crust, dark caramelized Maillard like flavors. The malt sweetness is balanced by a bit of tartness towards the finish (that is likely brought out by the sweet Chinese rice cake I had 45 minutes ago). Something in this reminds me a bit of the spiciness found in cola. The body of this beer is fairly light for an American interpretation of this style, but is right in line with many of the Belgian ones that I have had; it has a medium mouthfeel to it, but is quite drinkable. I really can't get past the spiciness in the finish, it lingers on the palate, almost with some turpene like tongue numbing notes, sort of floral, sort of menthol like and almost chrysanthemum like. There is a hint of phenolic character in the finish that boosts the malt complexity more than anything.

Actually quite a nice beer, once my palate got used to it, the beer seems a bit richer than it initially started out as. This is really quite enjoyable & I am definitely quite happy to have a whole 750ml of this to myself. (2,156 characters)

Photo of Halcyondays
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle, picked up at Hi-Times,

A: Pours mahogany with a soft off-white to tan head, one finger at most. Solid, but not thick lace. Good head retention.

S: Dark bready malt, hint of smoke and flowers. Has a bit of a dark cookie scent.

T: Has a moderate peat smoke flavour of the bat which resonates throughout the brew which I really liked. Dark malt, spice cookie. Hard to get the heather, but the overall flavour is excellent.

M: Light to medium-bodied, which feels a bit odd since I usually recognise these flavours with heavier brews, the Wee Heavies and their ilk. Quite smooth, strong flavours but easy on the palate.

D: The Belgo-Scotch tradition is certainly alive in New York. Ommegang continues to impress and shows why they're arguably the best American Belgian-style brewer. (797 characters)

Photo of Billolick
3.78/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Omme bomber, caged and corked, $11.99 @ DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY.
Pour is darkest shades of amber, thick and frothy mocha head, reaches high, then falls to a nice film and leaves nice looking bands of thicker lacing.
Malted up nose, with a hint of mushroomy earthiness.
Malty and pleasing Scottish ale. Nutty, maple infused, more malt.
Decent take on the style, that doesn't really do a great deal for me. Respectable, quality, drinkable and all that, but not likely I'll be drinking too many more bottle of this stuff (520 characters)

Photo of billab914
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Russian River tulip glass. It poured brown in color with a frothy off-white head to it. The head faded after a while but left some excellent lacing as I drank it.

The aroma shows some of the Belgian yeast to it along with a good dose of spice. I can't quite put my finger on the spice, but it's probably the Heather spice since I have no idea what that smells like. I pretty big malty, caramel flavor comes through as well to give it a little of the typical scotch ale flavors.

The taste is similar to the nose in that the Belgian yeast and spice really come through right off the bat. I get a little of the tart, apple or pear like flavors out of it as well. Again I can only assume the spice I'm getting is the Heather. The malty, caramel flavors are there but they are almost hidden behind the fruity and spicy flavors. I do get just a hint of the smoked malt in it, but probably wouldn't have found it if I didn't know to look.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with carbonation being moderate. Drinkability is pretty good, it wasn't really that much like any other scotch ale I've had before but it was pretty good. The spice and fruit flavors went with the malty and caramel flavors pretty well. A pretty good beer overall. (1,265 characters)

Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a large bottle from Abe's Cold Beer for about $11. It poured with a big tan head and a spicy chocolate aroma. There's a big dry, hoppy kick, surprisingly bitter for anything Belgian or Scottish. As it warms, more flavor rolls in with sweet cherry and leather over herbal spice and citrus rind. Overall a tasty and interesting beer. Check it out. (355 characters)

Photo of Georgiabeer
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours dark amber with a decent initial head that fades. Smells sweet with a touch of herbalness, lots of malt, but lighter and somewhat honeyed. A very slight touch of smoke at the end. Similar in taste. Some peaty smokiness, some hoenyed touches, and some almost savory herbalness throughout. A bit of toffee at the finish. perhaps a little too light for the style, could use some firmess and a bit more of the Belgian yeasty notes. A little too seltzery and light in the mouth to start, but this fades and it becomes almost still at the end of the glass. A little strange. Fairly interesting in concept, but a little too subdued to truly represent the Belgian Scotch style at its best. Still, I enjoyed it well enough. (720 characters)

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Ommegang Cup O Kyndnes (Cup Of Kindness) from Brewery Ommegang
86 out of 100 based on 170 ratings.