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Ommegang Cup O Kyndnes (Cup Of Kindness) - Brewery Ommegang

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86
very good

237 Ratings
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Ratings: 237
Reviews: 169
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 12.07%
Wants: 11
Gots: 15 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brewery Ommegang visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Scottish Ale |  6.60% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

"This fine Ommegang ale uses heather tips and a wee bit of smoked malt to bring the taste and aroma of Scotland to the forefront."

(Beer added by: akorsak on 08-05-2009)
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Photo of blackie
4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

a: shaker pint, deep brown in color, capped with a well-retained khaki head, thick and rocky, little lacing

s: aromas of toffee and dark fruit, solid peat smoke, dry cocoa, and some darker fruits, nicely malty but not without an earthy hop side to balance

m: carbonation medium-full and smooth, body moderate to heavy

t: peaty malt with moderately sweet toffee undertones and an earthy/herbal hop flavor, starts a touch metallic but quickly shapes up after warming, caramelized and malty but well balanced, finish drying with some subtle roast, brushes of chocolate and dark fruits, quite tasty

d: a well-crafted scotch ale that fits the style very well, one of those that disappears more quickly than expected

hadn't heard of this one before - impulse pint at Galaxy Hut, Arlington

blackie, Oct 15, 2010
Photo of atsprings
4.4/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Flying Saucer served in a tulip glass a deep almost opaque black that shows slight ruby highlights when held to light. The beer is topped with a thin light tan head that diminishes to a ring and leaves almost no lacing on the glass. The aroma is a nice amount of dark malts, burnt caramel, dried fruits, molasses and a bit of spice. The taste is a nice complex blend of dried fruits, dark malts, molasses and a hint of cocoa. The beer is quite light and crisp with smooth mild carbonation. I'm a bit surprised by this one, a Belgian style beer that's better on-tap than it is from the bottle!

atsprings, Oct 15, 2010
Photo of Daktyls
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a deep dark amber color, almost a dark brown black. A two finger head is present which dissipates to a medium-fine lacing left on top.

S: Dark fruits, plums, raisins, are present along with a a lot of dark malts. As other reviewers have noted, there is a distinct "Ommegang" scent to this beer, with the Belgian yeasts.

T: Tastes much like the nose, faint tastes of plums and raisins accompany the distinctly Belgian taste of many other Ommegang brews. The malts give a solid foundation for the taste while a nice smokiness makes this a little lighter than other Scottish Ales.

M: Very light feeling on the tongue with a medium amount of carbonation.

D: Quite drinkable, though no aspect of the beer makes this a uniquely interesting beer, together they work very welll.

Daktyls, Oct 14, 2010
Photo of glid02
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at the Porter Beer Bar in Atlanta.

Pours one shade from black with a half-finger tan head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of faint dark malts with equal amounts of roasted and toasted malt flavors. Also present are very slight amounts of brown sugar and smoke.

Tastes very interesting. The first thing that comes to mind throughout the sip is burnt marshmallows. Moderately sweet roasted malt flavors with solid amounts of even sweeter toastiness kick things off and are joined almost immediately by smoke and what can only be described as marshmallows. The sweetness fades out a bit midway through the sip, allowing the mild burnt malt flavors and very slight hints of dark chocolate to carry through to a moderately bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall I wasn't expecting much from this beer given the aroma but the flavor profile is as unique as they come. Not a beer I could drink a lot of but it's well worth a shot.

glid02, Oct 13, 2010
Photo of kiddynamite920
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a very dark red, big and fluffy tan head. Looks appropriate for style.

S: The heather lends a very floral note to this beer, with some piney notes. Not picking up a very big scottish ale aroma here. Not a lot going on as far as malts here, getting hops and floral aromas.

T: Malts come through very nicely on the palate with a good amount of smoke. The floral nose is also present here. Nice balance. Smokey and earthy/floral. A bit of pepper. Still not fulfilling what a Scottish ale should be. Too floral.

M: A bit thin, was looking for that caramelized sugar mouthfeel. Not thick and malty, but thin and far too floral/bitter.

D: This one is tough, doesn't really fit the style bill and I'm having a hard time putting it into a category. Almost has a Belgian yeast quality too, not sure what is going on with this beer. Drinkable, but can't put a finger on what style it should be.

kiddynamite920, Oct 13, 2010
Photo of soze47
4.22/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Cracked the cage and cork on this one tonight! I love Ommegang, so I'm interested in getting their take on a Scottish Ale.

Appearance: Thick, bubbly creamy tan head of 2+ fingers. Ruby, deep brown body.

Aroma: Deep dark fruit maltiness. Raisins and spice on the nose. Complex

Taste: Nice mix here. Caramel and toasted malt combine well with the spices and heather to make a rich diversity of flavors. Because the body is lighter than most Scottish Ales, the taste gets around your mouth and palette much easier. Smokey quality is there too, with nice craisin/raisin taste to finish.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied as mentioned. Smooth and easy on the palette. Like white wine, this one makes your mouth feel alive without weighing it down.

Drinkability: Highly drinkable due to the lower ABV and lighter body. While complex in flavor, it is not overwhelming in the least. I drank this whole thing by myself in a relatively quick amount of time for a bottle its size.

Overall: I really enjoyed this and would love to pick it up again when looking for a Scottish/Scotch Ale. I usually stay away from this because they can be cloying and muddled. Because this one is so light, it allowed all those same flavors to dance around and make for a refreshing, complex brew.

soze47, Oct 12, 2010
Photo of drtth
4.33/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in stemmed goblet. Glass of cold water on the side to sip from periodically.

Appearance: As served the beer is dark brown with a ¼" off white creamy head that persists reasonably long leaving some nice foam and lacing on the sides of the glass when sipping.

Smell: The aroma is malty with some dark caramel and molasses sweetness combined with some floral, fruity character that leads into a pleasant smokiness.

Taste: The malt flavors (dark caramel with a touch of dark molasses) provide a solid backbone that supports the floral and smokiness components of the taste but never interferes with them. The smokiness from the malt has a surprisingly light character but is definitely present through out much of the sip.

Mouthfeel: The mouth feel is medium=full bodied and soft with the creamy carbonation. The finish is medium long and filled with some floral dark caramel/molasses that carries the smokiness nicely almost to the smoky, slightly dry end.

Drinkability: I enjoyed this one quite a bit. Each sip followed from the last easily and I'd be quite happy to have a second. I'm thinking I'll be looking for some of this in the future. One of the nice features of this beer is that the smokiness is definitely present but never strong enough to lead one to say "enough" before getting to the end of the beer.

drtth, Oct 12, 2010
Photo of Thorpe429
3.08/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

On tap at Rustico. Poured into a tulip.

Pours near black with a thin light tan head. A bit of lacing, although not much at all. Smells like roasted malt with a bit of dark fruits. Taste brings white a bit of roasted malt with hints of coffee. Not much going on. Feel is overly dry and a bit thin. Drinkability is okay, but really not a very good example of the style in my opinion.

Thorpe429, Oct 10, 2010
Photo of BeerNemesis
3.03/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Cup O Kyndnes (Cup Of Kindness) | 750 ml. | 6.6% ABV | 2010

Brewer: Brewery Ommegang
Style: Scottish Ale
Glass: Duvel tulip

Presentation:
Standard Ommegang "O" label with some nice black watch patterning.

Appearance:
Deep marroon with an nice off-white head of about 1".

Aroma:
Various dark fruits: cherries, plums, raisins, etc. Pleasant.

Taste:
It opens up with an earthy estery flavor and lightly toasted malts. The dark fruits follow, though unlike a dubbel, they are bitter and lean. The finish is zesty, almost lemon-like, evidencing a residual herbal taste -- the heather it seems.

Mouthfeel:
Medium-bodied, crisp carbonation, even feel on the palate. Carbonation adds some needed sting.

Harmony:
Altogether, it's a nice brew with some interesting, though underpowered flavors. The bitter dark fruits are not quite my thing.

Would I get it again?:
No. It's a decent brew, sophisticated and subtle, but not quite to my liking because of bitter, herbal characteristics that seem out of place with the earthy, peat-like malts.

Bottled: ?
Served: October 9, 2010

Price = $8.66 at Witherspoon Wine

BeerNemesis, Oct 10, 2010
Photo of david18
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

i had a twelve ounce pour of this in Manhattan's Amsterdam Ale Houses on the Upper West Side. I think this is the first non belgian style ale from Ommegang. It was very good. A little light for a scotch ale, both in color and strength, but very enjoyable and an easy drinker. Three or four of these is not too much.

david18, Oct 09, 2010
Photo of champ103
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a nearly opaque brown color. Just a hint of ruby around the edges. A two finger beige head forms with good retention. Lots of lace is left in patches around my Hennepin snifter.
S: An unmistakable Belgian yeast funk up front to let you know this is Ommegang, and a Belgian interpretation of a Scottish Ale. Lots of toasted malt. Chocolate and toffee. Some dark fruits of raisins and plums as well. Very nice.
T: Follows the nose. Lots of that signature Belgian yeast that is slightly funky. Toasted malts with toffee and chocolate. Dry dark fruits linger.
M/D: A medium body and carbonation. Fairly crisp, and creamy at the same time. A nice texture. Not hard to drink at all. You can finish the bomber without feeling overwhelmed by the alcohol.

There is not much to complain about here. Very nice and well incorporated throughout. I wish a bit more peat and smoke would come through, but not a complaint. Just my preference. Just shy of being excellent. Well done, and recommended.

champ103, Oct 09, 2010
Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a large bottle from Abe's Cold Beer for about $11. It poured with a big tan head and a spicy chocolate aroma. There's a big dry, hoppy kick, surprisingly bitter for anything Belgian or Scottish. As it warms, more flavor rolls in with sweet cherry and leather over herbal spice and citrus rind. Overall a tasty and interesting beer. Check it out.

tempest, Oct 08, 2010
Photo of Georgiabeer
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours dark amber with a decent initial head that fades. Smells sweet with a touch of herbalness, lots of malt, but lighter and somewhat honeyed. A very slight touch of smoke at the end. Similar in taste. Some peaty smokiness, some hoenyed touches, and some almost savory herbalness throughout. A bit of toffee at the finish. perhaps a little too light for the style, could use some firmess and a bit more of the Belgian yeasty notes. A little too seltzery and light in the mouth to start, but this fades and it becomes almost still at the end of the glass. A little strange. Fairly interesting in concept, but a little too subdued to truly represent the Belgian Scotch style at its best. Still, I enjoyed it well enough.

Georgiabeer, Oct 08, 2010
Photo of SrMonkey
3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear mahogany, with a thick, slightly-tan head that lingers long after the pour. Beautiful.

Aroma is pretty straightforward, sweet malt with a hint of fruit esters.

Sweet malt upfront and lasting throughout, melding to an estery finish, with what I'm guessing is the heather coming out in the end. There's a subtle undertone of peat that builds over time. I had a 3P the other day and this shares the same yeast esters, and that slightly metallic flavor in the head.

Medium-bodied with some nice carbonation, greater than what I would expect with the ABV.

Drinks pretty good, although it's not quite a sipper, yet the sweetness and spice limit the number of rounds.

An interesting hybrid from one of my favorite breweries. Worth a try, although the price point means this is a one-timer.

SrMonkey, Oct 07, 2010
Photo of rdickey
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear reddish brown, with a lively one-finger head that sticks around and leaves nice lacing.

Smell: Toasted malt on the nose, together with biscuit and just the faintest hint of heather notes. In other words, it tastes Scottish.

Taste: This is where it gets more interesting. Most of the elements of a traditional wee heavy are present in one way or another - malt sweetness shoulders most of the load, with the hops lurking mostly in the background. However, the spiciness of what I assume must be one of Ommegang's Belgian yeasts adds an entirely new dimension, and in fact comes close to dominating the taste. This effect intensifies as the beer warms; it seems to move from being primarily a Scottish brew to primarily a Belgian brew.

Mouthfeel: Slightly lighter on the tongue than a traditional wee heavy.

Drinkability: This is a complex beer and, even at a relatively modest ABV, should be a sipper.

rdickey, Oct 07, 2010
Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Glad to see this beer in DFW.

The beer pours a medium, slightly hazy brown color with a tan head. The aroma is very nice. I get some notes of dark fruit and caramel, as well as some alcohol - which is a bit surprising since this beer is only 6.6 percent.

The taste is more of the same, with a few welcome additions. I get some more dark fruit and caramel, but I also get some peet-smoked malt. The alcohol is present again in the flavor.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Mora2000, Oct 06, 2010
Photo of TommyW
4.05/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Clear brown with golden/amber tints when held up to the light; bubbly, off-white head.

S- Fruity, Belgian malt aromas.

T- Nice malty base up front with notes of fruit, Belgian sugars and molasses. Then a nice smokiness comes but doesn't linger too long on the palate. Finish is fairly clean with a slight caramel note.

M- Medium body with an easy carbonation.

D- Another great beer from Ommegang; this has a nice mix of element from a Belgian-style beer and a Scottish Ale. Really nice.

TommyW, Oct 04, 2010
Photo of jlindros
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap@ armsby abbey.

A huge fluffy head makes the pour take a few minutes. It slowly fades leaving a fluffy messy Belgian style head and lacing over the dark reddish brown hazy mohogany.

The nose has some Belgian malts, and some syrupy sweetness, a little candi sugar, a light Belgian strong aroma, burnt molasses and a touch of a fruit like aroma. Little toffee too.

Taste is similar with some creamy dark malts, light sweetness and little syrupy flavor, and a boozy taste but not boozy feel. Some light nifty tastes, a little burnt brown sugar and toffee. A slight bitterness too perhaps from the roasty malts and caramelized sugar. Finishes with some sweetness and little sticky syrupy taste. Some lingering creamy malts and sugars too. Light herbal bitterness.

Mouth is heavier and creamy but not super thick, a little syrupy and decent carbonation.

The drinkability is so so with the thick syrupy coat the mouth feel andthe booze tastes a lot higher than it really is.

jlindros, Oct 04, 2010
Photo of Halcyondays
4.22/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle, picked up at Hi-Times,

A: Pours mahogany with a soft off-white to tan head, one finger at most. Solid, but not thick lace. Good head retention.

S: Dark bready malt, hint of smoke and flowers. Has a bit of a dark cookie scent.

T: Has a moderate peat smoke flavour of the bat which resonates throughout the brew which I really liked. Dark malt, spice cookie. Hard to get the heather, but the overall flavour is excellent.

M: Light to medium-bodied, which feels a bit odd since I usually recognise these flavours with heavier brews, the Wee Heavies and their ilk. Quite smooth, strong flavours but easy on the palate.

D: The Belgo-Scotch tradition is certainly alive in New York. Ommegang continues to impress and shows why they're arguably the best American Belgian-style brewer.

Halcyondays, Oct 04, 2010
Photo of cosmicevan
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into tulip.

A - Poured a burgundy maroonish brownish purpleish color with a nice frothy head that leaves some good lace on the glass. Ommegang brews typically have a hefty top and are usually really nice looking in my opinion. This one has a lot of the appeal of their other beers.

S - Subtle. mint and darker fruits, some soft spicing in the background.

T - There's a lot going on, but everything is blended in a way that nothing really stands out too much. Peppery maple syrup. Reminds me of a spicy sour bubblegum with a cooling/refreshing finish. Mostly just spices.

M - Feels spicy and cooling. Not as thick as I would've expected but full-bodied still. Seems like a good match for the cooling autumn weather.

D - I had tried this one at BCTC a few months ago and remembered it being not as good as I'm finding it now. I had found it to be much thicker and filling...although it wasn't the first beer I tried of the day (...and in all likelihood probably wasn't even the 30th) so can't really trust my memory from that day, but my overall impression of not being too impressed compared to all the other options from Ommegang. An interesting take, but not my favorite scottish ale and not my favorite Ommegang brew.

cosmicevan, Oct 04, 2010
Photo of tchenery
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer shows a deep rich chocolate color. Very brown. The head is nice and big with an off-white color to it.

It smells of rich malt aromas with a slight bitterness smell on it and a smell of slight sweetness.

The taste is very rich and thick of chocolate malt. The Belgian carbonation helps to keep it light on the tongue and probably mask a few flavors as well. There is a slight raisin flavor to it. I'm sure it will change as it warms. There's a marshmallow hint coming in now too.

This is a great cold weather beer. The mouthfeel is not drying and slightly sweet. I'll be going back for this one again for sure.

tchenery, Oct 03, 2010
Photo of saintwarrick
4.05/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pour is a very dirty brick red with a thin, lacey white head while the nose holds some familiar Belgian sugars and the sweet, bready maltiness of a Scottish ale. Taste is a perfect blend of the two styles, starting off with some light sweetness and dark fruits befitting a Belgian ale of its shade before showing some smoky characteristics like a good Scottish ale. Overall a very good and drinkable brew. I have loved each of these new brew Ommegang has been throwing out there, so keep em coming!

saintwarrick, Oct 03, 2010
Photo of Gmann
4.33/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear brown color with some amber hightlights and a nice puffy cream colored head that slowly settles into a thick cap. The aroma is of clove, banana and candi sugar. Some very light herbal notes towards the end, which may be the heather. The tastes starts off with all of the belgian characteristics; clove, banana and candi sugar sweetness. Then you can see the scottish side pop through. Some rusty metallic notes, light roast, and dry tea like flavor followed by a subtle smoke that shows up in the end and is a nice contrast to the sweetness. Moderate body with airy carbonation; starts off sweet on the palate but finishes dry. This is a very interesting scottish ale and very good. It has some dubbel like flavors along with the traditional scottish malt and a nice hint of smoke.

Gmann, Oct 03, 2010
Photo of merlin48
4.13/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Corked and caged bottle pours a slightly hazed ruby chestnut body with a medium sized tan head that is thick and pillowy. Good retention and some lavish lacing in sheets and spiderwebs.

Aroma has some dark fruit esters from the Belgian yeast, molasses, herbal hops, and a hint of smoke.

Solid medium body has an appropriately subtle carbonation.

Taste has a toffee/molasses malty base accented by a hint of dark fruits, Belgian yeast, floral/herbal hops, and a prominent earthy smokiness that is much more evident in the taste than the aroma.

Tasty and very drinkable. Nice to see Ommegang do such a fine job with this style.

merlin48, Oct 02, 2010
Photo of johnnnniee
3.4/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A Belgian Style Scotch Ale, Why not.
Pours a deep ruby color with a finely bubbled off white head that dissipates quickly but leaves some sticky lace on the way down. The nose is sweet with cherries and plums, spicy wheat notes and a hint of smoke. A swirl of my glass releases some phenolics and a hint of bubble gum. Taste is smokey with a hint of herbal almost minty tastes. A chalky roasted grain vies for attention in the background but is overwhelmed with smoke and bubbly carbonation. Spicy wheat becomes sweet dark fruits that linger on the finish. Taste is a little sweet, but never becomes cloying. Medium to high level of tightly held bubbles, Medium body, Bubbly syrupy mouthfeel. I love a good Scotch ale, I love a good Belgian Style ale. I'm not sure I love them mixed together. Some of the flavors I feel clash with each other right now, but maybe with some time this will be more harmonious. As is I could take it or leave it. There's nothing really objectionable here, but nothing really excites me either.

johnnnniee, Oct 02, 2010
Ommegang Cup O Kyndnes (Cup Of Kindness) from Brewery Ommegang
86 out of 100 based on 237 ratings.