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Saison Voisin - Brasserie Des Légendes

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BA SCORE
77
okay

177 Ratings
THE BROS
64
poor

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Ratings: 177
Reviews: 143
rAvg: 3.31
pDev: 15.71%
Wants: 6
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brasserie Des Légendes visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Todd on 09-08-2003)
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Photo of ehammond1
2.73/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle (2010)

Port Bottle Shop
Carlsbad, CA

A murky and hazy dark brown and orange. Two finger off white head. Some spotted lacing down the glass.

This smells EXACTLY like Martinell's Apple Juice, which is fine...for apple juice, but not a saison. No complexity, no funk, no barnyard, no hops, no yeast...just apple juice.

This beer tastes of dirt (earth?), apples, some slight tang from the yeast, grains, and muddy hop bitterness. Nothing mixes particularly well together, though it isn't at all bad.

Medium to thick mouthfeel, a touch sharp and metallic, and not particularly drinkable, especially for a saison. I usually find myself gulping saisons and wondering how my glass ended up empty so quickly--this one is taking a while.

Not any better than average saison. I wouldn't recommend this, though it might pair well with salty food.

Photo of Aberration
3.03/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a Good ol' Pint Glass.

A: Hazy amber coloration, fleeting head.

S: Smells faintly of apple to me. I'd call it apple+brown ale.

T: Tastes like it smells, apple infused ale. I had this standalone and with some pork ribs...and let me just say that it really went much better with food than it did alone. Great compliment to pork in my opinion.

M: A little bubbly, easy drinking ale. Nothing too special here

Overall: Wasn't thoroughly impressed by this offering, but it certainly wasn't bad. Great to pair food with, and maybe a good session beer, and even a lawnmower-esque beer.

Photo of Huhzubendah
3.18/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I found a saison a few of my friends had not reviewed. Unfortunately, it was not one of the better examples of the style.

The appearance is orange with a thick, white head that displays lasting retention and leaves ample lacing in its wake.

The aroma is floral, zesty, and spicy with some bready malt scents.

The flavor is a little soapy. Huh. Not digging that. Additionally, the yeast presence I look forward to in a saison is rather lacking here. For a saison, the beer is sweeter than I accustomed to. If anything, I would expect funk and/or yeast in lieu of sweetness.

This was mediocre. I don't see myself having this one again.

Photo of Thorpe429
2.8/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle courtesy of Geist. Served in a tulip.

Pours a golden-peach color with a very large white head and quite a bit of lacing on the way down. The nose brings forward some light malt with grain and bread. Other than that, there is a bit of clove and some moderate spice. The flavor has a really grainy texture with a bit of faint spice. Light body with average carbonation. Don't like the grainy character and lack of any saison yeast presence.

Photo of rbd13
3.28/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a brown/copper color with a fluffy head. Plenty of yeast particles can be seen floating in the glass.
Smells of honey, light fruits, and clove.
There are flavors of pepper, light fruit(apple) and honey malt. Finishes with a mellow tartness.
has a medium body with heavy carbonation.

Photo of fear025
3.88/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at the Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, IL on 3/3/11.

Aroma:There is some farmhouse funk in the aroma, as well as some citrus fruity notes. There's also a little spicy soapy smell.

Appearance:Honey colored, with generous long lasting head, and very good lacing.

Taste:Tons of spice right in the forefront. Spice and flowers. In the midtaste, some of the bitter hips start to come through more. The bitter hops then grow, and peak in the aftertaste, which then slowly fade leaving only floral flavors.

Mouthfeel:Mouthfeel is very light with good carbonation. There is some harsh astringency in the foretaste from the hops.

Overall:This is an excellent spicy saison.

Photo of brewdoc75
2.63/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Pours a middle of the road amber color into my red wine glass. Cloudy and very carbonated. A strong, off-white head sits on top and lasts a while. A little, dirty lace along the sides.

S: Earthy, dank, fairly malty. Some caramel, which seems odd for the style. Light spiciness. A touch of citrus. Really not terribly aromatic.

T: First, a harsh bitterness is noted. This is followed by strong caramel malts. Not something I would expect to find in my saisons. The hops provide some spiciness and a little skunky flavor. The beer really lacks the typical saison yeast character. Minimal phenols and esters are noted. Really not very exciting mixed with some harsh bitterness and too much caramel for the style.

M: Dry and light bodied, like it should be. Based on its taste and slightly smooth mouthfeel, I presume there are some caramel malts in here. This doesn't fit well for the mouthfeel. Finishes dry, but a little hop stickiness.

O: Really not a great beer. I wouldn't call it undrinkable or bad, but average to below average. They definitely added some caramel malts to this beer. It doesn't really fit well for the style and really throws me off on this beer. I won't be having this again, but wouldn't scare others away from at least trying this. If I were in Belgium and could have a fresher version, perhaps I would try it again.

Photo of NorCalYeti
3.38/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

taste- belgian candy sugar, earthiness

color- deep honey amber

clarity- clear

smell- honey, graham cracker, bready, underwhelming

body- medium-length soft bitter finish, waxy mouthfeel on the top of the mouth, spicy, prickly medium bite at the front of the tongue

appearance- poured with a one finger off-white head that disipates quickly. some active carbonation, no lace retention

overall impression- average...not my sytle for a saison

notes and comments- served in a trappist glass. label on the bottle says light on the tongue and refreshingly fruity and bitter. i didn't experience those characteristics that much

beer spy- the trappist, oakland ca, 3/13/11, $8.00, 12oz

glassware: chalice

Photo of Jwaks
3.13/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

This is not what I was expecting from a saison. I believe the category has been 'narrowly defined' by a few well known saisons and this demonstrates it is a much broader style than I thought.

Appearance - translucent golden body showing orange hues below a few fingers off-white head that's longlasting with beautiful lacing

Aroma - granny smith apple, honey, earthy spice, pale and light caramel malts backed by citrus zest, alcohol, hops and some peppery spice

Taste - follows the nose but is underwhelming considering the aroma; a bit flat some semi-tart apple, earty spice, honey, caramel or molasses, pale malts, and a long lasting woody floral hop bitterness. The granny smith apple tartness, and peppery earthy spice comes back on the finish melding nicely with the hop bitterness.

mouthfeel - faily full for a saison with a nice drying finish and lingering bitterness

drinkability - a bit difficult to down a lot of it because it's not terribly enjoyable and because of the full mouthfeel and honey/caramel flavor

Not what I would normally drink if I want a saison, but it is a good education on the old world saison and what it may mean.

Photo of BradLikesBrew
3.28/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Mike for the bottle.

Pours a murky, muddy, orange brown body with a light tan head.

Aromas of caramel covered apple and toffee with nutty, fruity undertones.

The palate is nutty, malty, and fruity. The spicy, peppery, hoppy, and acidic flavors that are commonly found in Saison are strangely absent.

Medium body, less carbonation than is typically found in the style.

This was a nice, simple, pleasant enough beer. But for a beer that features the word Saison so prominently on the label, the characteristics that define the Saison style seem to be completely lacking. I would describe it as a Belgian amber ale, not that that is an actual style. Its been a while since I have tried De Koninck, but I think that would be a good comparison. Not bad, but a little boring.

Photo of chaz01
3.43/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle from the Beer of the Month Club, poured into a Belgian tulip glass.

A: Hazy brownish red color with an excessive thick head occupying more than half the glass. Off-white colored head recedes slowly leaving some heavy lacing on the glassware.

S: Floral aroma with some grassy notes along with some spices reminding me of Christmas.

T: Orange citrusy and bready with some more spice notes such as cinnamon, ginger and cloves. Reminds me of a fresh-baked orange-cinnamon bread.

M: Medium bodied with lots of carbonation. I enjoyed this beer more after letting it sit to release some of the carbonation.

D: Very complex and somewhat spicy beer. Not something I'd want to drink a lot of but the spices reminded me of a holiday beer, although it doesn't mention that on the label.

Photo of BieresDesMoines
3.58/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

The beer pours a beautiful rust colored beer with a big tight head leaving plenty of lace. Aroma is very malty somewhat fruity and salty with some horehound. This smells a bit like an Oktoberfest which is a little odd. Well, it smells like the most rustic Oktoberfest ever I guess. The flavor is a bit on the sweet side with some caramel initially but this seems to have faded about halfway through the glass and a champagne dryness presents its self, making it a little mind boggling that the initial impression was of sweetness. After that sweetness or caramel or whatever I didn't like at first fades a lot of the earthy hoppiness comes and balances the beer out fairly nicely. The maltiness of this beer is very present and it's pretty damned clean which is no complaint. There is a bitterness at the back on the throat on this thing that kind of teases you into wishing it were more bitter throughout, but it's nice nonetheless. There is a bit of pear fruitiness and that horehound in the aroma delivers in the flavor eventually as well which is very good. I wonder what sort of hops are in this? I've used a lot of strisselspalt as of late and they seem to impart the same sort of earthy funky bitterness that has. I've really never tasted a saison like this one. Man the longer I drink this the more I love it.

Photo of metter98
3.1/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: The beer is cloudy dark amber in color. It poured with a finger high white head and has a light amount of carbonation; yeast particles are visible floating in suspension.
S: There are light aromas of apples and spices in the nose.
T: Flavors of apples and bitterness dominate the overall taste, which is rather malty; there are also notes of caramel and spices.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation. There is a bit of dryness in the finish.
D: The taste is rather unusual but it wasn't that easy to drink so I'm not sure if I would try this again.

Photo of CanuckRover
2.98/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Atypically dark, caramel-like. Fast and lively carbonation. Interesting seafoam head. Nice thick lacings.

Fruity aroma, somewhere between tangerine and grapefruit. A bit of fresh hop zing too.

Just a touch of nice, light, fruity malt and biscuit right up front but it's quickly overwhelmed by some astringent bitterness helped along with generous carbonation. Some dry continental hopping at the backend.

Nothing quite so bizarre as a quenching beer that you'd rather not have more of. Early flavours show promise, but it falls apart with some thoroughly un-saison like characteristics.

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.08/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A Belgian Saison sitting patiently in my fridge for about a year. Brewed in the medieval castle of Irchonwelz. Though the BA Site lists this brew at 5%ABV it reads on the bottle 6%.

Poured into a Saison Dupont glass. A huge, fierce, crackling white head forms with hundreds of craters opening up and condensing into the foam. Orange/tawny brown in color. Excellent retention and bubbly lace.

Aroma is sweet, bready, yeasty. Appetizing. Light hay and barnyard elements.

Mild tartness with a lot of hop flavor. Super clean and drying. With the sting of viscousity is a soft fruity flavor. Bitterness is still there after all this time. Pale malt body. Poured some of the yeasty sediment in halfway, adding a more complex touch to the beer.

Mouthfeel is light bodied, very dry finish and generally makes me want to take another sip rapidly.

A very enjoyable beer that I wish was more widely available. Got this through the mail from a Belgian beer site in 2009.

Photo of rebel1771
2.93/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: Pours a copper color with a coarse head that fades quickly.

S: Sour aroma with apple, citrus, and raisin notes.

T: The fruit from the smell does not come through at all. Strange dry malt flavor dominates and leaves no room for anything else.

D: This brew looked and smelled good but is way off the mark on taste. Where taste is concerned this beer doesn't even come close to resembling a saison.

Photo of gfreed
3.13/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

An odd beer-- it looks like a dubble, with its over-steeped iced-tea color and tan head. And it smells like a blonde ale, witih a good deal of yeast and peaches. Yet it has the lighter ABV and body (if a bit thin) of a decent saison. Unfortunately, it doesn't taste much like a saison. All the components are available, but whoever put this together didn't have the right tools. (Sorry... a bit far-reaching, I know...) Could use some more density in the body and more punch from the hops, which are totally lacking in any power. For *me* to ask for more hops is really saying something.

Photo of mothman
2.58/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured into tulip.

Pours 1 finger of khaki head. Fades down a little. Leaves some splattered lace. Color is a dark burnt bronze.

Aroma: Some spices at first with some fruity esters. Bready malts. Not really funky like a saison.

Taste: Reminds me more of a Belgian Pale ale than a saison. A lot of spice flavors here. Yeast, bready malts, cloves, fruit notes, and some alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Fizzy and boozy. Very odd for a 5% beer. Medium bodied with lots of carbonation. Ends dry with spice notes.

Overall, just not a lot going on with this saison. It really tastes nothing like a saison other than it being Belgian. Boozy as well for the low abv. Not too drinkable for me.

Photo of crossovert
3.85/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 ml capped champagne style brown bottle. 6% alcohol.

It pours a hazy cider/amber color. The head is big, fluffy, and white. It sticks for a bit and leaves some decent lacing as it recedes.

The smell is pretty hoppy for the style imo. It actually reminds me of Brooklyn soriachi ace, albeit much less fragrant and a bit denser/blunter. It has a peachy smell and the typical spicy yeast you always get in a saison.

The taste is mildly hoppy with a nice cirtus breeze and some subtle bitterness. That pretty much overpowers some of the typical saison flavors. This one is definitely spicy and citrusy, not as fruity as most. It also is very clean tasting. It has some good flavor, but it is perhaps a bit lacking in the flavor department.

If you like a hoppier saison this is one I would recommend. I think the recipe has changed for this one, it seems alot different than what people are saying in older reviews, gotta try the big bottles of this.

Photo of pmlondrigan
3.55/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huh, weird saison. This is another installment in summer saison saturdays. Pours a really unfamiliar, but pretty, ruby brown color with a dense puffy white head. A little bit of lacing. Really light aroma, too light. Licorice and faint wisps of yeast on the nose. Balanced flavor, more malty then a usual saison, not really too much yeast flavor. Kind of inocuous. Dry. Plan old mouthfeel. really there isn't too much going on here. Not bad, not great.

Photo of timtim
4/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

i read about this beer in Southampton brewmaster Phil Markowitz's book, Farmhouse Ales, and had to try it just for the history lesson. for anyone that doesn't know the book but loves saisons, it is a must read. Phil leads us to Leon Voisin, whose family has been brewing saisons professionally for almost 200 years, and according to Leon, this is a spot-on representation of what people knew as saison around Hainaut back then. beer 101. i think drinking this beer is a great history lesson, so i am giving it 4s across the board. if i had tasted this dark amber beer blind, i'm not so sure i would have understood it as well. nose of grassy hops and caramel play out dryly with some earthy cellar/corkiness coming through and maybe raw sugar as well and being wound out by a sticky, lingering, hop bitterness. glad i now know where the style comes from. grateful i live in a developed society that now fantome and lost abbey are what people know as saison!!!

Photo of Mancer
2.5/5  rDev -24.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

This beer poured a hazy copper with a 2 finger high off white head. I have to mention, that the second I popped open this beer, it absolutely exploded. The bottle itself overflowed all over the table. The initial smell of the beer was slightly wheaty, fruity and malty. Just small hints of everything, but nothing pronounced or impressive. The initial taste of the beer was a slight fruitiness, with some wheat and yeast. Overall the falvor was bland. The brew had a light body with medium carbonation.

I'm glad I split this bottle with someone, because I can't say that I would like to drink two glasses of this stuff. One glass lasted me over 2hours. I couldn't get myself to drink this that often. It never stuck out in my mind as an "Ooo I want some more." All in all, there are way better Saisons in this style and price range.

Photo of brewcrew76
3.3/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Hazy orange amber with a medium sized off white head and sticky lines of foam clinging to the side of the glass.

S - Earthy, light citrus fruits, bready grains and a light hoppiness.

T - Coarse graininess, caramel malts, almost a dirty, musty flavor, yeasty with a lingering bitterness. The dirty flavor grows as it warms.

M - Medium body with a good amount of carbonation. The darker malts make it feel a tad heavier. Dry lingering bitterness on the finish.

D - I have had darker malts in a saison and enjoyed it but not a big fan of it in this beer.

Photo of Radome
3.58/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from bottle to goblet. The bottle had a different label from the photo above, and it is labeled as 6% alcohol, not 5%. Perhaps the recipe has been changed along with the label.

A - Beer is a medium amber color with orange highlights. It is slightly cloudy with a small amount of sediment bits floating through it, but I would not describe it as "murky" as others have. The Head is off-white, initially about half an inch thick and then fading to an eighth of an inch. It is made up of large bubbles.

S - Smell is mostly malt with a sharp edge to it that reminds me of pilsner grain. There is also a fairly evident hit of wood and then a hint of sourness. It smells interesting and appetizing.

T - The taste is drier than the malt aroma led me to believe. The malt is nice and it is balanced by a decent hops bitterness and somewhat sharp hops taste. The wood and sourness from the nose are not very noticeable in the flavor.

M - The body is light and there is a slight astringency as you swallow.

D - Apparently I like this beer much more than some of the reviewers. I find it complex enough to be interesting, but still crisp and refreshing like I'd expect from a saison. There is an astringency toward the end of the sip that I don't care for, otherwise I enjoy it.

Photo of salvo
3.9/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Appearance out of the bottle is browner than many other saison, but the earthy old wood smell is there unmistakably. The head is only a half inch and it does back fast, leaving a thin foam coat and the carbonation seems to keep it replenished.

Like with Hopus and other sediment-heavy bottle-refermented Belgians, I poured only 3/4 of the bottle into the tulip: the beer was almost clear with a rich hazelnut brown color. Pouring in the yeast and sediment enhanced the flavor but did make the beer murky.

The taste is rich and fizzy: like the carbon dioxide gets release when it hits my tongue. Then the flavor is slightly sour with a big malty back. Unusual in a saison for all that malt, but I welcome it! Spicy/peppery back that hits the throat where the tongue begins. Not an unpleasant sensation. The yeasty sediment at the bottom of the bottle yields a rich fresh-baked bready flavor and odor -- not the yeasty smell of lagering yeast, but that fresh-baked hot bread smell.

I am enjoying this beer more than the other reviewers seem to: subjective taste. Also my bottle reports 6% and not 5%, so perhaps I am reviewing a newer, tweaked batch. This is good stuff, although I agree it is darker than most saison.

Saison Voisin from Brasserie Des Légendes
77 out of 100 based on 177 ratings.