Über Weisse - Baron Brewing

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Ãœber WeisseÃœber Weisse

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83
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16 Ratings
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Ratings: 16
Reviews: 16
rAvg: 3.66
pDev: 17.21%
Wants: 2
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Baron Brewing visit their website
Washington, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 12-24-2004)
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Photo of snaotheus
3.73/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle into a 22oz mug

Pours a dark brown color, slightly reddish, medium sized beige head that fades pretty quickly. Pretty solid continuous carbonation going on. Smell is caramel, roasty malts, a little coffee, maybe some cherries and dates.

Taste is fairly sweet, malty, roasty, surprisingly mild for a strongish beer. Strange lemony sourness at the end. A little boring, but that may be my hophead talking, so I'll give this beer the benefit of the doubt.

Mouthfeel is watery, pretty drinkable. Not my style, but seems like a decent beer for the style.

Photo of chumba526
3.65/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Appears almost black with a light brown head.

It smells nutty a little of sweet malt and a little like cloves. There is not that strong of a smell.

It tastes slightly sour there is a mild malty chocolate flavor and a bit of a nutty flavor. The aftertaste brings some mild and subdued yeasty flavors. The mix of sourness and toasty malt flavor is quite nice and refreshing. For the style it is very light.

The carbonation is moderate low. It is a little watery.

The drinkability is quite good. It is really light and refreshing and low on carbonation so it is easy to drink a few glass of this beer.

Overall a pretty good beer nothing amazing but it is refreshing and easy to drink.

Photo of barleywinefiend
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured a dark brown with good carbonation and a nice tannish head

S: Nose is cocoa, wheat and some clove

T: Chocolate, banana and some caramel plus some wheat in there

M: Very good, nice banana, light clove, molasses snd cocoa

D: Pretty good overall

Photo of koopa
1.83/5  rDev -50%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1

22oz bomber purchased in November of 2008 from Liquid Solutions.

Appearance: Pours matte dark brown with slight honey red folds and a 1 finger mocha crown that shows lots of retention and lace.

Smell: Bitter lemon acidity (like those plastic lemons with artificial lemon juice in them) combines with a lightly toasty malt, bread notes, and wheat notes.

Taste: Vinous note, faded wheat, funky artificial lemon note.

Mouthfeel: Thin

Drinkability: This one probably wasn't good fresh and (not surprisingly) it has gone down hill in the past year.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
2.55/5  rDev -30.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Dark chocolate brown on the coaster... not quite opaque, chocolate-covered orange when backlit with bright sunshine. The sandstone colored crown is too light and airy to look good. Something thicker, creamier and stickier is what's needed. A few sudsy scraps of lace are seen, but don't look committed to the cause.

The nose is waaay too sour fruity for the style. Lemon juice mixed with banana is a pretty fair approximation. Where's the chocolate wheat malt that gave the beer its dark color? This might not be a pleasant experience if U-W tastes like it smells.

Uber-Weisse is not a good effort, sorry to say. It tastes like a poor-quality dunkelweizen (it's actually a weizenbock), with too much lemon juiciness and a shot of Islay whiskey-like phenols. Again, why is there no dark maltiness? Actually, there isn't much maltiness of any kind.

The flavor profile consists of tangy wheat, lemons, a smidgen of banana, ground clove and Band-Aids. I'm pretty sure the beer isn't infected, it just tastes poorly conceived and even more poorly constructed. The bottle was manufactured in '08, so this isn't old beer either. Hallertau and Tettnang hops provide no flavor and a surprisingly tight finish. More malt sugars are desperately needed.

Barely perceptible alcohol is a minor plus. The mouthfeel is way too light for the style and the ABV. There seemed to be enough carbonation early on, but by mid-bottle there isn't. Lackluster is a fitting one word description.

There is absolutely nothing Uber about Uber-Weisse WeizenBock Ale. In my rather limited exposure to their beer, Baron Brewing does a fairly decent job with Pilsner, Rauchbier and Schwarzbier. Oktoberfest and this offering are significantly lacking. Bottom line: buy and drink at your own risk.

Photo of ccrida
3.43/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle that I've sat on for a few months. Poured into my Meantime snifter, the Über-Weisse is cola colored with a small, quickly fleeting off-white head that leaves heavy, creamy lace.

Smell is weird, at first whiff, it smelled like a yeast starter gone bad, with some darker stone fruit and grainy sweetness coming through the sourness, as well as a hint of cloves.

Taste is very acidic, actually curling up the sides of the tongue! But, there's otherwise really no off-flavor per se like I would expect from an 'infected' beer, even though I don't think I've ever had one (an I'm an avid homebrewer...). Behind the acidity is a fleeting dark chocolate maltiness, on the chalky side, but really, the acidity dominates the palate. OK, this is probably infected, a rumor I've heard that they suffered from in some bottlings, it's like drinking a beer fermented with 100% lactobacillus. The thing is, I don't mind wild ales at all, so I can drink it, but I hope I don't get sick! I've read in homebrewing texts that even if beer goes 'bad', it can't turn to poison, so let's see....As it is, definitely doesn't taste like a WeizenBock, as cited on the label (rather then: Dunkelweizen). Aside from the tartness, it's pretty clean, boringly so in fact, and the high ABV is well hidden. As it warmed, the dark fruitness came out more, very grape like, and was a general improvement, but I still couldn't shake the feeling that I was eating magic mushrooms or something! Still, this is what I imagine an old school baltic porter or something would taste like after a long voyage, and the more I drank it, the more I enjoyed it. On further reflection, I couldn't help but think of this being like a strong, dark berliner weiss. While it obviously isn't marketed that way (and I don't know if there wasn't some cross-over contamination from their real berliner weiss), in that regard, it was pretty good. It started as a struggle, and by the time it was gone, I missed it. But I still don't know what I drank or if it was an anomoly!

Mouthfeel is light, crisp and dry. And puckering!

Drinkability is an instant drain pour unless you're feeling adventorous and like sour beers (as I do). I was conflicted about reviewing this, so I checked their website, which descibes it thusly:

"It has a dark, rich hue with a full, creamy head. Aroma of banana and chocolate notes. Velvety in texture with flavors of roast, chocolate, banana and sweet malt. Finishes mildly tart from the wheat, while ending dry and clean."

I can only agree with the last sentence (although 'mild' is an understatement). But maybe it is their intent, so the review stands until I try it again and find a different experience. And if it is infected, it obviously was so before I took this bottle home, so people should know what they (may be) in for. We'll see if and when I come back to it, I should give them a good 6-12 months to make sure I'm definitely trying a different batch. Rating this to style, it would be all one's across the board save appearance. My open-minded scores reflect the general beer drinking experience, and assume I'm drinking the brewers intent. Better warmer then cold. And I'm also a big fan of sour beers. If you're not, avoid!

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.15/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A fairly solid pour into my 25cl tulip glass yields an almost three-finger thick, lightly browned, dark tan colored head. The beer is quite dark, almost black with perhaps a touch of purple / brown to it; when held up to the light the beer shows a lightly hazy, dark plum-purple color. As I pour this the characteristic Weizen notes of banana and clove are noticed, but are wrapped up in a rich, sweet, caramelized malt character. A more focused look at the aroma does not seem quite as decadent and produces scents of toasted / roasted grain, a touch of raisin, some acidic burnt grain notes, a touch of Dr. Pepper and some light prune. The aroma is a bit less rich than I had hoped, but is still pretty decent.

Lightly tart up front, but then gets even more tart through the finish as an acid character from the roast malt kicks in. The beer is quite dry with almost zero sweetness and the body is even pretty darn light; this drinks like a beer that is far lower in alcohol. The roast malt plays a pretty big role here with notes of cold black coffee, well toasted grain, a touch of burnt chocolate and some bitter roast grain. At times flavors of banana are noticeable in almost a phantom like way; it comes and goes and seems to be more induced by the aroma than the flavor. There is actually some sweetness here that is accentuated by flavors of prune / plum, clove and banana, but it gets so quickly overwhelmed by the acidic, roast grain character that it is too fleeting to be really enjoyed.

I don't think this is infected (being so dry and tart one might think that), as it does not really have any off flavors. It is quite an interesting interpretation of the style though, one that just doesn't quite work for me. I would really like to see more rich malt / grain character here, a bit of sweetness (though not too much) would also help to balance the roast character that comes off as a bit too harsh here. In a word, unbalanced. Not horrible though, as all the right flavors seem to be here, just not at the right level / intensity.

Purchased: Liquid Solutions

Photo of hopdog
4.22/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle acquired in trade with Larry Pitonka (thanks!).

Poured a deep brown color with an averaged sized off white head. Aromas of wheat (like a wet wheatiness), roast, earthy, trace of bananas, and clove. Tastes of wheat, lighter roast, chocolate, light bananas, and cloves. Light tart finish. I like the way the bananas and cloves were not in your face.

Notes from 5/7/07

Photo of froghop
3.98/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

pours a dark brown with a ruby head when held to the light, and a thin tan head.

smell of molasses, cocoa, wheat, and a hint of caramel.

taste is thick, dark fruit, caramel, chocolate, and bread dough, finishes dry with a just a little touch of bitterness.

Photo of msubulldog25
3.95/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Currently on at Bailey's Taproom, where the ABV is listed at 8.5%. A 10 oz. glassful...

A: The deepest mahogany, with red-maroon highlights; murky. Starts with a nice little sandy-tan head, just under a finger high. Drops to a creamy ring and trails long curtains of fine lace.

S: Spicy wheat nose is full at first and has a floral, slight berry/sugar candy sweetness.

T: Toasted wheat bread, with cinnamon and a dab of butter. Sweetened by what seems like honey and spiced with a faint clove. Dries in the finish, with a slight mineral graininess.

M: Creamy and soft, with a coating medium-full mouthfeel. Thickens, borders on 'chewy'. Big alcohol is a vague notion, a growing warmth that's quite stealthy.

D: Enjoyable version of one of my favorite traditional German styles. Baron continues to impress with the quality of their product; this one I'll be looking for again (very good on tap, hope they're bottling).

Photo of tempest
3.78/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a bomber with about the simplest label I've ever seen - a black and white sticker with little more than a name and government warning. These guys must have better things to do than market their beer.

Anyways, its almost overwhelmingly creamy straight from the fridge. Once it warms a bit complex clove and herbal hefe spice around the edges. The most striking aspect of this beer is that it drinks like a beer half it's strength (it's 8.5%, also making a weizenbock). It doesn't taste like a dark weiss or a strong one, and as it's fairly tasty, this makes for a dangerous beer.

Photo of DrJay
4.05/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to hopdog for sharing this.
Hazy dark reddish brown with a thin cap of quickly settling foam that produced some spotty lacing and a longlasting solid ring. The aroma was a little spicy, with some banana and caramel in the forefront. Other fruity notes were present (cherries, apple, raisin) along with a light roastiness. The flavour was very similar to the smell, just a little maltier and definitely on the sweet side. Medium bodied, lowish carbonation and a little dry. Very drinkable with a nice flavour profile.

Photo of weeare138
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Much thanks to hopdog. I'm obviously behind on my notes here, as I tried this on 5/6/07...
Appears a dark mahogany with a small, off-white head that slowly fades out. Scattered streaks of lacing are left around the glass. A small cap and hearty collar sticks around.
Smell is of banana, clove, cherries, caramel, and dusty, wet wheat.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas with an intense caramelized malt mixed with wheat germ.
Mouthfeel is balanced, medium/full bodied, creamy with cherries, caramel, & sugar. Nothing over the top here. Very drinkable.

Photo of Phatz
4.13/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to hopdog for supplying the bottle and to weear138 for facilitating the tasting at his home. review from notes taken 3 days ago.

Presentation: The bottle has a unique simplicity to the label. It could have been printed by a 7th grade student with a computer and printer. In is boring-ness it created a topic of conversation. Interesting.

Appearance: Pours a dark copper brown color with an ivory head.

Smell: the sweet caramel malt and the expected banana aroma are present but reserved. I like that the banana and clove don't over power. There is also a dark cherry tartness, plum and wet wheat in the nose.

Taste: The banana that does come through is an over ripe banana and it is mixed in with flavors of a fruit salad and not an overpowering face full banana that comes with a few American representations of the style. This is very good. Gentle apple tartness, pear sweetness, caramel and spices, meet the dark bready malts and a toasty chocolate syrup drizzle as well. To style it leans to the sweet side and that is OK by me. I just like that the banana wallop is well restrained.

Mouthfeel: Soft syrupy body is light but refreshing as a big dark wheat can be.

Drinkability: I do like the style and found this quite drinkable. I would like to find some more Baron Brewing Co beers. Nice.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Photo of goodbyeohio
3.93/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4.5

this beer emerges into a brooklyn tulip, looking strange like a mix between orange juice and gas station coffee. bubbles and cream randomly scattered across the surface makes for a little more beeriness. small lace dots dwell near the beverage's crown

the subtle roastiness of wheat malt really shines in the aroma here, as your typically present banana/clove notes are extremely underplayed. its got a distinct tang and burnt husk, some fickle overripe fruit supersweetness lingers as well. for an 8.5% beer, this certainly smells, well, more restrained

it also drinks surprisingly light. almost watery and somewhat undercarbonated, this brew falls a little limp on the tongue. however, this doesn't stop it from being full of flavor. the first noticeable taste is a uniquely sweet cherry nectar thing. in a wheat beer? this might be the sweetest wheat i've ever quaffed. only in the finish do i detect the phenolic rust and a bit of banana puree. understated phenols are nice, i wonder if this is a result of the crazy sweet level. warmth evens out the texture a bit and makes this insanely easy to drink.

it's a smooth, unique brew with some odd faults. can honestly say i've never tried anything like it. recommended with a slight warning, thanks k.

Photo of RoyalT
4.1/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance – This one poured a cloudy, muddy brown in color and had little head mostly due to the inept pour by our waitress.

Smell – There are some really good, dark yeast notes in this bouquet. The traditional banana is complimented by some other light summertime fruits and a hint of chocolate.

Taste – The good, live yeasty notes makes this a rarity for a US-produced German wheat bier. It’s just as big at the tongue that it is in the nose. The refined sugars pick things up here and the banana turns brown and overripe.

Mouthfeel – This is a bit bigger than light-bodied with a terrific, fluffy mouthfeel

Drinkability – This is one of the most troublesome styles to produce here in the US, but my first taste of a Baron brew is quite impressive.

Comments – You’d think I actually ordered one of these beers, but I actually just copped on skyhand’s. Thanks to Kim for sharing this one with me over burgers at the Barking Dog.

Über Weisse from Baron Brewing
83 out of 100 based on 16 ratings.