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Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse - Brooklyn Brewery

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

429 Ratings
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Ratings: 429
Reviews: 304
rAvg: 4.18
pDev: 10.05%
Wants: 72
Gots: 18 | FT: 0
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New York, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Todd on 09-18-2007

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brooklyn version. This brew is the result of the long friendship of Brooklyn brewmaster Garrett Oliver and Schneider brewmaster Hans-Peter Drexler. Garrett had always admired the delicate balance of flavors in Schneider Weisse, while Hans-Peter had long enjoyed the effusive hop character of Brooklyn East India Pale Ale and BLAST! Garrett's concept for the collaboration was that each brewmaster would brew essentially the same pale, hoppy weissbock in the other's brewery, but with different hopping to reflect the local hop flavor.

Dry-hopped w/ American Amarillo and Palisade.
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Ratings: 429 | Reviews: 304
Reviews by jasonjlewis:
Photo of jasonjlewis
3.29/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

reviewed on my phone.

pours a huge head. retention is great. color is a cloudy pale yellow.

smell mixes pear and banana esters with citrusy american hops. the drawback is that a distinct fusel alcohol is very apparent.

hot alcohol is a significant flaw in this beer. it masks the nice underlying sweetness that mixes with a lovely blend of weizen flavors and citrusy hops.

full and crisp mouthfeel but there is a slight solvent note.

the recipe seems good on this one but the fusel alcohols are too much.

More User Reviews:
Photo of oberon
4.08/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Good to finally get my hands on this,poured into the Brooklyner-Schneider glass made just for this beer a murky lemon tea color with a nice large fluffy head that stuck like glue to the glass as it settled ever so slowly.Lighter aromas than expected I picked up some Amarillo resiny-citric presence along with some yeasty clove,man was this complex on the palate starting out somewhat phenolic and clovey with some banana esters than the hop presence shows through with some resiny features along with some lemony citrus notes,slightly medicinal with some spicey white pepper in the finish.Alot of stuff going on with a great American hop presence to go along with alot of weizenbock attributes,a great brew.

Photo of ricke
3.23/5  rDev -22.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pale orange color, very hazy. A very big slightly off-white head leaves plenty of lacings.

S: Lots of malted wheat, banana and grass. Some leafy hop notes. Spices. Some phenols and a hint of lemon. Also, I pick up a gentle fruity/bubblegum-like smell. All in all, it's a bit edgy and sharp.

T: Not much going on in the mouth. White bread and malted wheat with notes of banana and spices. Grass and a gentle citric note. The mostly sweet flavor is accompanied with a slightly tart and sharp lemony tartness in the middle. The finish is quite bitter with some citric hop notes, phenols, lots of spices and an almost burning sensation of alcohol. The finish is actually not very good at all.

M: Very smooth, medium body going toward full. Gentle carbonation. This is the best aspect of the beer.

D: This is a decent beer, but considering the quality of the two brewers who's created it, it's a bit of a letdown. The other version (Schneider-Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse) they created is way better. Although it's tasty for the most part, it comes out as rather uneven and unbalanced, and the finish really ruined it for me.

Photo of steelerguy
3.88/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Gigantic white head and it hangs around for awhile, hazy gold with moderate carbonation.

S - Light grain with fruity hop characteristics, that is the Amarillo coming though. Wish there was more.

T - Smooth delivery of a lot of flavors! Lots of pale malts, slight wheat flavor, and a yeasty tang. The hops come through with some nice but not too prominent flavors with a touch of bitterness. There is a little hot alcohol on the finish, but it only slightly detracts from the overall flavor.

M - Big beer with a clean feel dry feel. They got this to attenuate well and the carbonation and alcohol make it finish amazingly dry.

D - Is it possible for a beer that has an ABV of 8.5% to be refreshing? I have to say, this one pulls it off. Very drinkable for a big beer.

Photo of lordofthewiens
4.38/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A seriously good beer. It had a hazy golden color with at least a two inch white head. Little bit of lacing. It had a fruity and spicy aroma. The taste was more on the fruit side, with a good malt presence. Also some lingering hops bitterness. A well-balanced, eminently enjoyable beer.

Photo of warnerry
4/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a clear orange brown with three fingers of craggy white head. Nice retention, but not much lacing.

S - Nice citrus aroma, with a big orange presence. Also quite floral.

T - Nice floral hops, though the hops have likely faded a bit. Held on to this bottle a bit too long. Good wheat malt presence. A bit of spice. Some hop bitterness on the finish. Pretty refreshing tasting beer.

M - Medium mouthfeel that is petty smooth, with a semi-dry bitter finish.

O - Would love to try a fresh bottle to get a bit more hop bitterness, but this is still a very nice brew.

Photo of generallee
4.58/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: It was poured from brown 1pint 9.4oz bottle into a weizen glass. I did not notice a freshness date on the bottle.

Appearance: It has a deep hazy orange colored body with lots of visible carbonation. The head is off white in color, tall, thick and creamy. The head is long lasting and makes lots of slick lacing on the glass.

Smell: It has a light pleasant aroma of wheat, a light wisp of clove, subtle fruity yeast and just a very subtle hint of smokiness.

Taste/Mouth Feel: The flavor starts with a big tangy wheat and grain base that adds fruity and spicy yeast notes of banana and clove as well as some citrus notes from the hops. The hops really stand out in the finish which becomes dry and has solid bitterness for the style. It has a full body and the texture is thick and chewy with a heavy well rounded mouth feel. Its carbonation is very active and cleansing on the palate.

Notes: Outstanding!!!

Photo of shark262
3.9/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Kudos for the brewers for this collaboration, which prompted me to buy in the first place. I love the weisse style and think the input from both brewers will create a great brew.

A: Pours a hazy straw color with huge head of foam. Lacing present once head subsides.

S: Clove, green apple and some herbal characteristics from the hops

T: Fairly bitter on the palate for a weisse beer. Alcohol warmth, especially in the aftertaste. Wheat and hops combination create a pleasant, tangy taste.

M: Highly carbonated, which is appropriate for the style. Lingering alcohol warmth after each sip.

D: Overall a very refreshing and drinkable beer. Bitterness somewhat overshadows the herbal characteristics, but is not overpowering. Great for a summer barbeque.

Photo of Hoptrollop
3.28/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I did like this one better then the Schneider-Brooklyner I'm guessing because the hops are more pronounced.

My smell score was so different then the taste because of the abundance of banana in the nose. Yes, I know that banana is to style. It's just not my favorite, I usually don't even review Wheats because of it.

This one I enjoyed enough to share my thoughts and that really says it all.

Photo of Billolick
4.27/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Glad to try this one over the course of about 7-10 days on tap at the Blind Tiger in down town NYC. This "made in Brooklyn, NY" version, poured cloudy, slighty yellowy light amber, under a near white head, that was somewhat loose and leaves middle of the road lacing. yeasty, wheaty, hoppy brew, a fine combination IMHO. Pineapple hop notes shine through, making this another, interesting and complex offering from Bklyn. and Schneider. Gotta love it when world class and innovative brewers team up to create envelope pushing beers. Seek out and enjoy.

Photo of Mora2000
4.35/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an orangish-straw color with a huge white fluffy head that lingers and remains present until the glass is empty. The aroma is very hoppy, with lots of grapefruit and pine. The flavor is bready malt with spicy cloves and pepper as well as hops. You get pine and grapefruit, with the majority of the hop flavor coming through in the aftertaste. Medium mouthfeel and carbonation. I preferred this one over the Schneider version, but they were both very good.

Photo of magictrokini
4.28/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle @ Hamilton's. Wow. Pours cloudy gold with a puffy white head and decent lacing. Lemons and wheat, coriander and clove, and a very strong and very nice current of pine and pepper. The taste is beyond great. Clean, crisp, sweet, bitter, citrus, candy; it had it all. The lemon-banana-wheat went so well with the mango-pineapple-grapefruit of the hops I can't believe this has not been done before. I may have to drink Hamilton's out of stock.

Photo of ohmybock
2.58/5  rDev -38.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

From a large, corked bottle. I drank this side-by-side with the latest bottled Schneider version. Although quite similar, I liked the Schneider version just slightly more. The Brooklyn version was slightly darker and has a different hop profile. There was a bit of soapiness (like I found in the Schneider version), but not as prevalent. Like the Schneider version, I still don't appreciate the hop flavor and aroma in this brew. The hops in the Brooklyn version come off as a mix of minty with a hint of orange. I'm guessing the orange is from the Amarillo and the mint is from the Palisades, but I'm not sure. I love hoppy brews and German-style weizens, but I'm not crazy about this mixture. It seems like an expertly-brewed beer, but just not one I enjoy. Oh well, I still look forward to trying other new and/or unusual offerings from Brooklyn. (Some recent ones I enjoyed were Local 1 and draft-only Abbey Ale and Brooklynator.)

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.75/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Appears a pale golden sunburst, hazy with fine yeast particles floating among the effervescent stream of carbonation rising from the bottom of my glass. The head simply billows right out of my glass with a doughnut like shaped top arising above the rim of my glass. Aroma has wonderful herbal and zesty fresh hop character with grapefruit accents and tropical fruit notes, really excellent stuff. Mineral water tones with mild fruit esters apparent with mild notes of banana but no so much clove, I actually think the heavy handed dose of hops just mask some of the traditional Schneider yeast qualities bringing this hybrid of a style into existence. Flavor such a heavily hopped weizen, bitterness brings out raucous layers of pineapple and herbal grassy notes. Citrus notes galore with a touch of banana and clove from the yeast strain utilized. Sulfur notes with a cleansing mineral water character. Alcohol although evident plays second fiddle to everything else but definitely becomes evident in this brews overall make up. So aggresively hoppy it's a wonderful experience to try a wheat beer that is this rich in hops in both flavor and bitterness. Mouthfeel is an effervescent bottle conditioned piece of beer nirvana, carbonation cuts through anything but the hop oils remain on the teeth and the palate so hop bitterness just kinda moves in and stays there. As the last bits of yeast sediment are poured in the beer takes on a smoothie texture with a bit of a powdered dryness to the complement all of those hop oils. Drinkability is incredible I wish I had a whole case of this, so far with Brooklyn's big bottle series they have hit two home runs. Excellent continue to be inspired by the traditional beers across the pond but Local 1 and Hopfen Weisse have set the bar for creativity in old time recipes.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.62/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a weizen glass)

A- This beer pours a crystal clear body with an orange hue that turns a hazy brown orange with the swirled second pour. There is a foam of dish water bubbles on top of a layer of off-white cream. The carbonation is strong with tiny bubbles that pop through the haze.

S- This smell of fresh green hop pellets has some soft wheat dough hints and yeast hints come through when the beer has warmed a bit.

T- The slightly sweet yeast flavor is mixed with a soft pilsner malt flavor. The finish is a full green snap hop with some faint watermelon qualities. As the beer warms there are light caramel malt notes with some fruity notes with white bread dough and bubble gum hints that compliment the hops well.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with no alcohol heat and a nice velvety fizz in the finish.

D- This beer has a great crisp hops flavor with a nice crisp wheat beer flavor. The wheat and yeast qualities are those great German Weizen flavors and complexities with a great fresh hop flavor.

Photo of biboergosum
3.97/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle.

This beer pours a cloudy medium apricot orange hue, with a multitude of thin foamy eggshell white head, which leaves some random droopy lace around the glass as it slowly recedes. It smells of fruity pale malt, Belgian yeast, a bit of acrid warming alcohol, and grassy pine hops. The taste is crisp boozy sweet wheat grain, mild banana and orchard fruit esters, more restrained yeast, alcohol in equal measure, and forest essence hops. The carbonation is moderate, the body medium-full in weight, fairly even, though just south of creamy territory. It finishes with a rising boozy, malty warmth, taking the grass and pine needles up with it.

A tough customer, this - Belgian and American both. Tasty, yes, but where the booze is of the sort where you sense it more than taste it, making it eminently more threatening.

Photo of RomanW70
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle. I've been looking forward to this beer for a while. Pours cloudy orange with a fluffy white head. Great aroma of superfresh hops, imparting a spicy, earthy, citrusy aroma in addition to the more traditional bread and banana notes. Taste is similar, with really fresh hop character and a distincitive clove/spice quality. Excellent beer. Will definitely have again. This is definitely my favorite of the pair.

Photo of Stigs
4.33/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml corked bottle, served in a Stone Levitation flute-type glass

A - big, big mound (almost 2") of insanely puffy, pillowy, and sudsy bright white foam. the beer is very clear, bright gold in color with lots of active bubbling. leaves behind some thick chunks of lacing around half the glass.

S - begins lightly spicy, with a big kick of active Belgian yeast, some lemon zest, grassy hops, and wheat. turns slightly fruity from ethers with a bit of banana, bubblegum. nice.

T - punchy bright wheat and grains with a pronounced yet not overdone sweetness. bananas, lemon, hint of apple provide fruity sweets being balanced by yeast and cloves. grassy hops and some alcohol finish this out.

M - light bodied with active, prickly and lively carbonation. creamy in the middle. explodes in the mouth before fizzing away, leaving some lingering grainy must, lemon, grassy bitterness.

D - well, color me impressed with the other side of this series as well. completely forgot about this until i cleaned out the cellar today, drinking perfectly right now. up there with my favorite Brooklyn beers. making me add a Weizenbock to the list of beers I want to brew.

Photo of Sammy
3.58/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

German grassy hoppiness and long-lasting enormous head. Average plus mouthfeel. Drying. Wheat, citrus.I don't think I enjoyed this as much as the S-B version, but maybe a bomber was too much.I have liked several weizen bocks more than this.A strong Hefeweizen, cloves, some bannana.

Photo of brewerburgundy
3.63/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

25.4oz bottle, Boulevard tulip, bottled on the 259th day of 2009. Thank you to drabmuh for this big want via Secret Santa 2010!

The color is a straight yellow with a bit of haze and depth. Think of all the incremental shades of banana yellow. The head is a towering affair in eggshell with good retention.

The aroma carries a lot of chalky, banana dominant Weizen yeast and light wheat bread. There's a green wood note and one can tell that this was originally highly hopped with American hops. Unfortunately they've mostly gone and only a background note of grapefruit and Meyer lemon zest. Clove goes from nothing to a lot as it warms.

Initially the beer is lightly wheaty with the expected banana esters. Things take a turn away from Weizenbock expectations when a sturdy citric bitterness hits; it's reminiscent of West Coast style. Apricot, green apple, and pear are playful fruity flavors. Once the big American hops have mostly gone, this is apparently a good, fairly standard Weizenbock.

Moderate-high creamy carb in a moderate body. It's not clean and the flavors linger on.

I'd like to try this beer fresh to really see its difference from standard Weizenbocks. As it is, hints of citrus and a moderate bitterness work passably well with a solid base beer. I like it but wish I'd opened this with my brother.

Photo of BeardedRiker
4.1/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I was very excited when I saw this beer. I saw that it was a new Brooklyn, a special one, and when I gave it a closer inspection, my taste buds trembled, my mouth watered, and my stomach growled. Why? Because I've had "hybrid" beers before, beers that mix two distinct styles. The first hybrid I had was from Midnight Sun Brewing Company up in Anchorage, AK, an amazing, outstanding, extraordinary, etc. brewery. Their hybrid was their Obliterator IV, an IPA-Hefeweizen. It was one of the best beers I've ever had. And when I picked up this Hopfen-Weisse, a hoppy-white/wheat beer, I knew it would at least be similar to the Obliterator IV. This was enough of a reason to get it! Anyway, let's get to the review.

I loved pouring this out of the bottle. Since it is partly a weiss beer, I put the bottle up to the light, and sure enough, I saw sediment. YES! I poured out about a 3/4 glass and then twirled the bottle a bit to stir up some of that non-filtered goodness to then fill up the rest of the beer glass. The head bloomed very large and looks very appetizing, being very bubbly yet clings to the glass. Indeed, the head is like a hefeweizen but an IPA too. Very bubbly but frothy enough to retain its form, at least for a bit until the bubbles pop. When you first take in the aroma of the Hopfen-Weisse, it smells like a pale ale. It's hoppy and smells faintly of flowers. On the other hand, the citrus and yeasty/wheaty smells lie tucked underneath the hops. As far as aesthetics, this beer is a clear golden, unless you swirl the sediment like I did that adds particulates.

Now to taste. This is why I like the hybrids (I own a hybrid car :P)! Unlike the smell, where the pale ale came before the hefeweizen, with taste the latter came before the former. It starts out with a strong wheat taste but with subtle underlying bitterness of hops. Lemony-orange citrus tang floats around in there as well. Talk about having complexity in a beer's taste. Wheat, hops, and citrus. One thing I really like about this beer is how the hefeweizen flavor stays throughout while the hop spice-zest stays right along with it. This is a full-flavored beer but isn't heavy. I love the spiciness at the end.

If you're a fan of hybrid beers, complex-tasting beers, hefeweizens and/or pale ales, this is definitely a beer to try. I don't think it's a great beer, but it's certainly extraordinary and something you should certainly pick up if you see it. Good stuff!

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.3/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Well now I'm confused - as if I wasn't before - or maybe I'm not confused anymore... ... ...when these beers first came out I thought it was one beer, and only about a month or so ago did I realize that there was a Brooklyn version as well as a Schneider version (I'd had the Schneider version). Well, I couldn't find any Brooklyn around here, but I was able to pick up a bottle in Tampa, Florida for $12.99. I'm guessing I could have gotten it for less at Whole Foods in Manhattan, but "you snooze, you lose", so OK.

Now I see that these are actually two DIFFERENT beers, and that Garrett brewed the Schneider version in Germany with Hans-Peter (but doing his own Brooklyn take on things), and that Hans-Peter brewed the Brooklyn version here with Garrett (but doing his own Amarillo/Palisades thing)... did I get that right? But, I see that the Brooklyn version is listed here as a weizenbock (not really) at 7.8%, but the label reads 8.5%. I dunno. What I did get out of each, clearly, was the hop selection. The Schneider reeked of Sapphire, while the Brooklyn clearly shows Palisade, and as a second, Amarillo - but time in the bottle may have affected that (marked 1008 on the back label; probably a year old now). So, OK...

A: Cloudy brass body. Creamy, slightly off-white head. Excellent retention, but average lacing (must be the alcohol).
S: Floral, spicy and woody (not quite cedar). Wheat. Mild banana. Slight chalky citrus rind. Mild pine. Some dull cut grass.
T: Flavor follows the aroma but wider, including notes of mild citrus (orange), papaya, melon, and an almost coriander-like note. There's even a delicate hint of cola in the finish. It's complex. A stiff bitterness balances it, and it finishes dry with a bit of raspy, chalky, hoppiness.
M: Medium bodied and effervescent.
D: Well-rounded and balanced, especially for such a big beer. And the alcohol never shows except in the strength. Well, maybe a little bit. But it's not thick in the mouth or sticky, and the malt and hop flavors are more than pleasant enough, and certainly complex. Worth seeking out before it's all gone!

Photo of dirtylou
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle, scooped at City Wide in South Bend

cracked open shortly before nd-washington, world series game 3, and ohio state-penn state...should be a fun night to sit on the couch

appearance: corked and caged, poured into a bells tulip glass, cloudy golden-orange body with a big fluffy beige cap and tremendous retention. This one looks promising

smell: gloriously hopped, banana and citrus, white pepper and clove, sweet and clean aroma

taste: This is a nice little weizenbock - certainly one of the better brooklyn beers i have had. This beer is fully hopped with a bigtime banana and clove presence that makes this resemble more of a jacked up hefe than anything else...Pineapple, yeast, and fresh herbs round out this impressive flavor profile, however true to style it may be

mouthfeel: a tad spicy, medium light body

drinkability: good

Photo of cjgator3
4.4/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle poured into a tulip glass. The bottle and labeling is absolutely stunning, props to Brooklyn for making on of the nicest looking labels I have seen. Pours a hazy dark golden orange color with a massive off-white head that possesses excellent retention and lacing. The aroma is banana, clove and citrus with some wheat and yeast. The taste features a very nice hoppiness to compliment the wheat, banana, clove and spices. Overall, I am extremely impressed with this offering. Props to Garrett Oliver and Hans-Peter Drexler for collaborating to create such an outstanding brew. Highly Recommended.

Photo of RickS95
4.07/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Looks like a Belgian Pale Ale, cloudy orange in color with a bright white head. The head has good retention and a slightly sticky lace.

Very fruity nose, smells like banana bread with lots of spices. Ever so faint scent of bubble gum.

Taste is a little bit fruity banana and biscuity. Pineapple in background. Straw with some alcohol esters in the swallow.

A bit spicy, ever so sweet, mostly cleansing bitter finish, along with some heat from the alcohol.

I'd heard good things about this collaboration, and while the beer is good, it's not world class. The smell is sharp, but the taste is slightly duller. Still a good beer.

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Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse from Brooklyn Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 429 ratings.