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Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse - Brooklyn Brewery

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

423 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 423
Reviews: 303
rAvg: 4.18
pDev: 10.29%
Wants: 75
Gots: 17 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brooklyn Brewery visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brooklyn version. This brew is the result of the long friendship of Brooklyn brewmaster Garrett Oliver and Schneider brewmaster Hans-Peter Drexler. Garrett had always admired the delicate balance of flavors in Schneider Weisse, while Hans-Peter had long enjoyed the effusive hop character of Brooklyn East India Pale Ale and BLAST! Garrett's concept for the collaboration was that each brewmaster would brew essentially the same pale, hoppy weissbock in the other's brewery, but with different hopping to reflect the local hop flavor.

Dry-hopped w/ American Amarillo and Palisade.

(Beer added by: Todd on 09-18-2007)
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.58/5  rDev -14.4%

German grassy hoppiness and long-lasting enormous head. Average plus mouthfeel. Drying. Wheat, citrus.I don't think I enjoyed this as much as the S-B version, but maybe a bomber was too much.I have liked several weizen bocks more than this.A strong Hefeweizen, cloves, some bannana.

09-07-2008 02:21:00 | More by Sammy
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djrn2

New Jersey

4/5  rDev -4.3%

02-18-2012 05:10:22 | More by djrn2
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Thorpe429

Illinois

4.43/5  rDev +6%

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a somewhat dark yellow with a nice white head. A bit hazy. Nose brings a good amount of bubblegum, banana, and clove. Also a nice citrus hop presence. The taste really elevates the hops quite a bit. I'm not expert, but I'd venture at least a bit of Amarillo. Good German weizen yeast characteristics as well. Good, light feel with nice carbonation. Drinks really, really well. I'm a big fan of this.

10-19-2010 23:42:25 | More by Thorpe429
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metter98

New York

3.93/5  rDev -6%

A: Poured dark yellow with slight haziness and a big head. The level of carbonation was so high that the head never disappeared from the top.
S: There are aromas of flowery hops and spices with hints of alcohol.
T: The initial taste is sweet, but there is good balance between the hops and the underlying wheat. The finish is somewhat bitter and spicy with some alcohol heat. The flavor is rather unique and imparts qualities of a hefeweizen and an IPA.
M: The beer feels medium bodied on the palate, although the level of carbonation makes it feel very smooth and not too heavy or thick.
D: It's very drinkable if you like IPAs that have a lot of hop flavor, however the alcohol content will catch up to you.

04-10-2010 03:14:19 | More by metter98
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BuckeyeNation

Iowa

4.45/5  rDev +6.5%

Blurry banana with a tangerine tint. The aged ivory colored cap looks like it belongs on a Belgian ale. It has fantastic texture and is a lace generator of the highest order. Not only does the beer look great, but the bottle and label are incredibly classy as well. Eye candy all around.

The nose is great on first sniff. And second. And third. The beer smells like an especially estery Belgian pale ale that uses American hops. What a great concept! Specifics: fresh pineapple, banana, bubblegum and a dash of musky clove. It's still only late in the first quarter, but so far Brooklyn-Schneider is kicking Schneider-Brooklyner's ass from one sideline to the other.

If you're forced to choose only one, this version of Hopfen-Weisse is clearly superior. In fact, it's so superior that it makes me think that something happened to the Schneider-Brooklyner beer on the way to the party. Amarillo and Palisade hops are better choices than Hallertau, but that can't be it. Hans-Peter Drexler and Garrett Oliver are both talented brewers, so that can't be it either.

This is an amazingly fruity weizenbock. I prefer the darker versions of the style, but this one is damn good. As with all world-class beer of this style, it's dripping with complexity. Every one of the above fruits is present on the palate, along with spiced peaches and white pepper.

Alcohol is barely noticed, other than the fact that it provides a subtle warming sensation that starts in the stomach and gradually radiates out to the fingertips. The mouthfeel needs a Belgian brewer's touch for the next highest score to be a consideration. On a positive note, it's built for speed and is begging me to put the hammer down. Buckle up!

After the less than spectacular Schneider-Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse, little was expected from this Brooklyner-Schneider version. Wrong again and gladly so. This is lip smackingly delicious, gloriously drinkable beer that every BA owes it to himself or herself to acquire. Highly recommended.

09-01-2008 21:51:47 | More by BuckeyeNation
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brentk56

North Carolina

4.58/5  rDev +9.6%

Appearance: Pours a cloudy honey color with a massive head that sticks, impressively, forevermore (or at least until well after I am finished)

Smell: The first thing you notice is the unusual aroma - pineapple, pine (verging on rosemary); malty weizenbock character underneath that adds complexity, but you have to know what you are seeking to find it

Taste: As if the aroma isn't singular, the combination of the IPA flavors and the weizenbock aspects throws one's tastebuds for a loop, as well; there really isn't a flavor progression as much as there is a combination - piney, spicy (red pepper flakes), pineapple, banana, coriander, clove, balsa wood - it's all there and, after the swallow, richocets off the back of the palate and arouses the tongue

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate, but prickly carbonation

Drinkability: Although I didn't care that much for the German twin, the American just thrills me to the marrow

06-14-2008 00:51:04 | More by brentk56
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zestar

California

4/5  rDev -4.3%

07-19-2014 08:47:39 | More by zestar
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Phyl21ca

Quebec (Canada)

4.23/5  rDev +1.2%

Bottle: Poured a cloudy dirty beige color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of dry hoppy notes with some citrus notes with a heavy side of wheat malt with light residual sugar notes. Taste is a good mix between a solid wheat malt backbone with light residual sugar which are balanced by some pretty dry hoppy notes with light citrus undertones. Body is full with limited filtration and good carbonation with no apparent alcohol. Very solid and unique offering. I would definitely like to try again.

05-23-2012 19:25:30 | More by Phyl21ca
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

4/5  rDev -4.3%

An explosion of flavors occur on the very first sip of this beer. Hefeweizens are complex and balanced enough- combined with the strength of stronger, bock-type wheats and IPA worthy hop additions... whew!

Expected hazy dark golden, rusty looking to the eye. A great gray-ish type head forms on the beer, retains and laces well. A fine look, but darker than expected.

Citrus aromas hit first (dry-hopping), but then the aromas morph into tropical fruits, estery fruitiness, soft spices, clove, and a bubblegummy-bananna sweetness toward the end.

Flavors follow the same outline except for the added earthy bitterness and minty cooling flavors and dryness in the end. But the initial orange zest or tangerine flavors work in the piney and banana taste just before a fleeting wheaty sweetness and ushering in the earthy/spicy hop notes along with the clove, white pepper, and mint.

Medium textured early, the carbonation is creamy and expansive and seems to emphasize the malt sweetness and bubblegum and banana esters. The beer holds onto the creamy textures well into the later seconds as the hop dryness and alcohol evaporation begin to come into play. Finishing decidedly bitter and earthy/piney, this beer fades into a long finish.

A very nice Wheat Beer that uses aggressive hops from both German Noble and American varieties. I'd like to see a more simplified Hefeweizen base and strict use of American hops at 70 IBU's. Could make the beer cleaner and less muddled.

08-23-2010 19:56:55 | More by BEERchitect
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mikesgroove

South Carolina

4.05/5  rDev -3.1%

Ok so I saw these huge 750's in Whole foods last week and it brought back some fond memories of the beer that I drank last year on tap, so I had to see how the bottle conditioned version was going to hold up. The pour was nice, with a hazy bright, golden amber being presented in front of. A nice two inch head of white frothy lace then came up over it and only gradually settled down into a rocky crown across the top. Nice carbonation was evident bubbling up from the bottom.

The aroma was not as strong as I remeber. A touch light, with a noticeably lemon like hop aroma layered upon the light yeast body. Some wet hay notes way in the back as well with a decent over profile. The flavor followed along, being light and airy, good carbonation throughout really let the profile pop when it entered the mouth. First flavors were al ight funky hay, some lemongrass and a load of light cereal grains. Some touches of apple and peaches, maybe apricoti n the finish. Decent follow through on it as it left you looking for another sip. For 8.5% there was no hint of it and it was really quite the smooth drinker.

Overall not bad at all. The on tap version had a good deal more hoppiness to it, however this was still damn fine and I would definitly say you should seek this one out. Another quality beer from Brooklyn.

05-25-2008 02:01:26 | More by mikesgroove
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kjkinsey

Texas

4.25/5  rDev +1.7%

08-01-2013 03:09:21 | More by kjkinsey
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spycow

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -10.3%

01-13-2013 22:33:11 | More by spycow
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ChainGangGuy

Georgia

4.38/5  rDev +4.8%

Appearance: Pours a hazy, orange-golden body with a tall, vigorous, sudsy, white head.

Smell: Notably spicy upfront with a strong, redolent scent of allspice, along with notes of clove and nutmeg. Plus, a spicy, tropical hop character. Sweetish wheat component. Tons of fruitiness coming ang going.

Taste: Malted wheat and barley blended with sweetened banana juice and chewing gum. Fair amount of spice and a generous addition of tropical fruit. Dash of peach schnapps. Growing wheat tanginess upon warming. Slight grassiness. A cereal sweetness that comes and goes, as does a tickle of acidity. Citrusy, spicy hop character with a medium bitterness. A finish that's all at once tangy, sweet, bitter, fruity... touch of pine resin on the very tail end of it. though I'm finding everything well balanced, just the right amount of sweet, malt, fruit, bitterness, spice flavor. The more you sit with it, the more the flavors evolve and rearrange themselves.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. Slight stickiness to the mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse is hoppy, packed to the brim with flavors and complexities, enjoyably aromatic, but it remains singularly drinkable. Plus, what a classy-looking bottle! In all honesty, I enjoyed this WAAAY more than I thought I would.

08-11-2008 02:29:41 | More by ChainGangGuy
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Knapp85

Pennsylvania

3.53/5  rDev -15.6%

This poured out as a hazy golden yellow color with a fluffy white head on top. The head leaves a nice spotted amount of lacing on the glass with a decent retention. The smell of the beer gives off a soft wheat aroma along with plenty of hops too. The taste of the beer started with the wheat upfront that fades into a pretty strong bitterness that the hops bring to the beer. The mouthfeel is light bodied and smooth. Overall this beer was pretty nice.

11-19-2011 18:34:01 | More by Knapp85
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oberon

North Carolina

4.13/5  rDev -1.2%

Good to finally get my hands on this,poured into the Brooklyner-Schneider glass made just for this beer a murky lemon tea color with a nice large fluffy head that stuck like glue to the glass as it settled ever so slowly.Lighter aromas than expected I picked up some Amarillo resiny-citric presence along with some yeasty clove,man was this complex on the palate starting out somewhat phenolic and clovey with some banana esters than the hop presence shows through with some resiny features along with some lemony citrus notes,slightly medicinal with some spicey white pepper in the finish.Alot of stuff going on with a great American hop presence to go along with alot of weizenbock attributes,a great brew.

05-09-2008 00:14:20 | More by oberon
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TMoney2591

Illinois

3.24/5  rDev -22.5%

Served in a Dogfish Head shaped pint glass.

A collaboration between two solid brewers that somewhat alters/updates a classic style? I'm in. This stuff pours a cloudy sunrise amber-brass topped by over a finger of lightly off-white foam. The nose comprises grass, dry wheat, light clove (I think), and a couple twists of orange. The taste brings in more of the same, with a slightly fresher wheat component and a bit more clove. The body is a lithe medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a drying finish. Overall, I wasn't the biggest fan of this stuff. It's not really bad, per se, just not my cup o' tea, what with the grassy hops not really fully melding with the mild citrus and wheat. I dunno, something like that...

08-29-2013 23:46:29 | More by TMoney2591
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JAHMUR

Connecticut

3.75/5  rDev -10.3%

11-03-2013 17:24:50 | More by JAHMUR
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biboergosum

Alberta (Canada)

3.95/5  rDev -5.5%

750ml bottle.

This beer pours a cloudy medium apricot orange hue, with a multitude of thin foamy eggshell white head, which leaves some random droopy lace around the glass as it slowly recedes. It smells of fruity pale malt, Belgian yeast, a bit of acrid warming alcohol, and grassy pine hops. The taste is crisp boozy sweet wheat grain, mild banana and orchard fruit esters, more restrained yeast, alcohol in equal measure, and forest essence hops. The carbonation is moderate, the body medium-full in weight, fairly even, though just south of creamy territory. It finishes with a rising boozy, malty warmth, taking the grass and pine needles up with it.

A tough customer, this - Belgian and American both. Tasty, yes, but where the booze is of the sort where you sense it more than taste it, making it eminently more threatening.

01-12-2011 02:22:04 | More by biboergosum
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NeroFiddled

Pennsylvania

4.33/5  rDev +3.6%

Well now I'm confused - as if I wasn't before - or maybe I'm not confused anymore... ... ...when these beers first came out I thought it was one beer, and only about a month or so ago did I realize that there was a Brooklyn version as well as a Schneider version (I'd had the Schneider version). Well, I couldn't find any Brooklyn around here, but I was able to pick up a bottle in Tampa, Florida for $12.99. I'm guessing I could have gotten it for less at Whole Foods in Manhattan, but "you snooze, you lose", so OK.

Now I see that these are actually two DIFFERENT beers, and that Garrett brewed the Schneider version in Germany with Hans-Peter (but doing his own Brooklyn take on things), and that Hans-Peter brewed the Brooklyn version here with Garrett (but doing his own Amarillo/Palisades thing)... did I get that right? But, I see that the Brooklyn version is listed here as a weizenbock (not really) at 7.8%, but the label reads 8.5%. I dunno. What I did get out of each, clearly, was the hop selection. The Schneider reeked of Sapphire, while the Brooklyn clearly shows Palisade, and as a second, Amarillo - but time in the bottle may have affected that (marked 1008 on the back label; probably a year old now). So, OK...

A: Cloudy brass body. Creamy, slightly off-white head. Excellent retention, but average lacing (must be the alcohol).
S: Floral, spicy and woody (not quite cedar). Wheat. Mild banana. Slight chalky citrus rind. Mild pine. Some dull cut grass.
T: Flavor follows the aroma but wider, including notes of mild citrus (orange), papaya, melon, and an almost coriander-like note. There's even a delicate hint of cola in the finish. It's complex. A stiff bitterness balances it, and it finishes dry with a bit of raspy, chalky, hoppiness.
M: Medium bodied and effervescent.
D: Well-rounded and balanced, especially for such a big beer. And the alcohol never shows except in the strength. Well, maybe a little bit. But it's not thick in the mouth or sticky, and the malt and hop flavors are more than pleasant enough, and certainly complex. Worth seeking out before it's all gone!

10-14-2009 02:34:40 | More by NeroFiddled
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RblWthACoz

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +1.7%

I pull the cork and it pops like champagne. A thick sweet aroma jumps out at my nose. It seems like a good sign.

Pours a nice clouded brown with orange hues and a thick creme head. Nose is dough, bright young bananas, and some spices. Flavor is nice. A bit hot, but not as hot as I remember the Schneider version being. Nice clove and banana tones. Just strikes me as exactly what this type of beer should beer. Definitely well done. Good feel. Overall this beats the Schneider for me. Extemely well done and definitely shows some brewing prowess.

04-09-2008 06:05:01 | More by RblWthACoz
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nickfl

Florida

4.33/5  rDev +3.6%

A - Two fingers of creamy, off white head on a slightly hazy, golden-copper body. The head settles slowly and leaves nice lace.

S - Spicy, citrus hop aroma; pungent and fresh. The yeast produces subtle notes of clove and bubblegum, backed by bready malt.

T - Surprisingly big, citrus hops. The fresh grapefruit hop note blends nicely with the bubblegum flavors from the yeast; the phenolic spice also compliments the hops. Bready, toasty malt comes out in the middle along with some caramel. The hops dominate the finish with more than enough bitterness to balance the malt.

M - Creamy, medium to heavy body, high carbonation, and a slightly dry finish.

D - A complex and very interesting beer. This is a very unusual beer and despite the strange concept it works very well. If the Schneider-Brooklyner version is a showcase for the yeast, then this is all about the hops; the yeast is always present, but it backs and compliments the hops. It is remarkable how well the flavors blend in this bizarre and delicious weisse/IPA.

09-30-2008 03:36:12 | More by nickfl
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WVbeergeek

West Virginia

4.72/5  rDev +12.9%

Appears a pale golden sunburst, hazy with fine yeast particles floating among the effervescent stream of carbonation rising from the bottom of my glass. The head simply billows right out of my glass with a doughnut like shaped top arising above the rim of my glass. Aroma has wonderful herbal and zesty fresh hop character with grapefruit accents and tropical fruit notes, really excellent stuff. Mineral water tones with mild fruit esters apparent with mild notes of banana but no so much clove, I actually think the heavy handed dose of hops just mask some of the traditional Schneider yeast qualities bringing this hybrid of a style into existence. Flavor such a heavily hopped weizen, bitterness brings out raucous layers of pineapple and herbal grassy notes. Citrus notes galore with a touch of banana and clove from the yeast strain utilized. Sulfur notes with a cleansing mineral water character. Alcohol although evident plays second fiddle to everything else but definitely becomes evident in this brews overall make up. So aggresively hoppy it's a wonderful experience to try a wheat beer that is this rich in hops in both flavor and bitterness. Mouthfeel is an effervescent bottle conditioned piece of beer nirvana, carbonation cuts through anything but the hop oils remain on the teeth and the palate so hop bitterness just kinda moves in and stays there. As the last bits of yeast sediment are poured in the beer takes on a smoothie texture with a bit of a powdered dryness to the complement all of those hop oils. Drinkability is incredible I wish I had a whole case of this, so far with Brooklyn's big bottle series they have hit two home runs. Excellent continue to be inspired by the traditional beers across the pond but Local 1 and Hopfen Weisse have set the bar for creativity in old time recipes.

06-20-2008 05:21:26 | More by WVbeergeek
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russpowell

Oklahoma

4/5  rDev -4.3%

Cheers to Jw347 for this one!

Gusher, lost an oz or two, damn...pours a hazed straw with 4+ fingers of pearl white head. Really murks up with some crazy effervescence. Average lacing & zero head retention

S: Much fruityness, lemony hops & phenolics as this warms

T: Intense grapefruit hops, some acidity, juicy fruit gum lurking in the back ground & some boozeyness up front. A strong apple cider burn permeates this as it warms, plus much nice grapey fruityness, the whole acidic grapefruit thing, makes me a little less happy; style & taste-wise. Finishes fruitty with citric hops, dry with much apricots & pears & a touch of cinnamon

MF: Grainy, chewy with vigirous carbonation, there's an acidic quality here that's a bit offputting

Drinks good, but a some flaws & quirks make me think we still have few things to learn from the Deutsche about making weizenbocks, local tastes or not. Worthwhile, not world-class

05-30-2008 05:07:17 | More by russpowell
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feloniousmonk

Minnesota

4.18/5  rDev 0%

I'm pouring this into a chalice. Apparently, I just don't give a darn.

Hazy golden appearance, huge white head.

Aroma is ever manner of hops, bright and citrus-y, full of pine and lemon rind, some orange and pineapple, vibrant and pungent. Nothing I'd expect from a Weizen, nor any German brew! All Hallertau? Fascinating!

Hops slap the tongue and blaze the palate. Then it fades a touch, and the wheat texture rolls into place. Smack, smack, smack, then smooth and easy-drinking, highly palatable. This is a schizophrenic beer, made for manic masochists. Not too often are fanatics of weizens and hop bombs housed in the same human shell, and this beer insists on appealing to that mutant, two-headed beer geek.
Honestly, who out there equally craves American-style hop blasting, and traditional German hefe weizens? I mean, in equal measure of enthusiasm...

Drinks down beautifully. This is genius.

A juicy, pithy, yet smoothly wheat-textured delight. What a queer creature, a zoological oddity of the beer kingdom, phyus, & genus. And Lord love this awkward beast, all praise it's unlikely existence. Let's hear it for carnival freaks in bottled form! Weirder still, we're not talking about any American hops, this is German stuff, but applied in ways they normally don't, at one of the more revered, traditional houses.

My lederhosen's off to Garrett and Hans-Peter! Great stuff!

01-21-2008 08:42:01 | More by feloniousmonk
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drabmuh

Maryland

4.53/5  rDev +8.4%

Beer poured from a bottle into an Erdinger weissbrau 0.5 L glass. Beer is orange and forms a thick white head with medium bubbles. Lots of haze, but that is expected. Head SLOWLY falls away leaving lacing on the glass, carbonation moderate to high. Looks delicious, one of the prettiest beers I have ever seen.

Aroma is amazing. Great hops and the wheat flavor is still present. Pine and citrus balance in the nose. Great smell.

Interesting flavor. Nice hop bitterness, at the end of the mouth. Some aftertaste, a slight flavor of alcohol. Wheat flavors are present, an amazingly balanced beer. Beer is full bodied and drinkability very high.

10-22-2009 01:39:13 | More by drabmuh
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Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse from Brooklyn Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 423 ratings.