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Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse - Brooklyn Brewery

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93
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425 Ratings
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Ratings: 425
Reviews: 303
rAvg: 4.18
pDev: 10.29%
Wants: 71
Gots: 16 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brooklyn Brewery visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brooklyn version. This brew is the result of the long friendship of Brooklyn brewmaster Garrett Oliver and Schneider brewmaster Hans-Peter Drexler. Garrett had always admired the delicate balance of flavors in Schneider Weisse, while Hans-Peter had long enjoyed the effusive hop character of Brooklyn East India Pale Ale and BLAST! Garrett's concept for the collaboration was that each brewmaster would brew essentially the same pale, hoppy weissbock in the other's brewery, but with different hopping to reflect the local hop flavor.

Dry-hopped w/ American Amarillo and Palisade.

(Beer added by: Todd on 09-18-2007)
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Photo of Sammy
3.58/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

German grassy hoppiness and long-lasting enormous head. Average plus mouthfeel. Drying. Wheat, citrus.I don't think I enjoyed this as much as the S-B version, but maybe a bomber was too much.I have liked several weizen bocks more than this.A strong Hefeweizen, cloves, some bannana.

Photo of GatorBeerNerd
4.63/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured into a Paulaner Hefe glass. It has a 3 inch or better thick head that is very frothy and clings to the glass all thw way down. There is a constant supply of carbonation bubbles that come up from the bottom of the glass. It is a beautiful light golden color. It is almost a picture perfect beer.

S: I can not think of a better smelling wheat beer that I have had. There is a great aroma of wheat malts mixed in with a banana aroma. There is a hint of hop aroma as well. It is very pleasing to the nose.

T: Outstanding! I didn't know wheat beers could have this much flavor. The banana, wheat, and hops are balanced perfectly in this beer. The hops leave the mouth slightly dry as its swallowed which is a departure from what I recall from any wheat based beer. This is an excellent brew.

M: The beer is a medium thickness and the carbonation makes it creamy and feel thicker than just the liquid. It is enjoyable to roll it on the tongue. The carbonation seems to be very high, but it is not aggressive at all.

D: The only thing that makes this one slightly less from a drinkability perspective is the ABV. It goes down easy and it tastes fantastic.

Photo of Atron67
3.85/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle, pretty expensive at 12 or so for it.
100 % bottle conditioned which i now understand, but not really 'getting' it.

A- huge fluffy head, accidentally caused some foaming over when i tried to stir up the yeast to get it in the first glass, ohh well that was my fault, but its apparently pretty highly carbonated. amber golden color, huge fluffy head, light stickiness down the glass, head lasted forever.

S- big cloves, pretty light hops on top. very citrusy hops anyway which is nice, gives a good complement to the cloves and wheat scents, normally im not a fan of the mix but this is pretty good.

T- strong wheaty character, full of phenolic and clove flavors, subdued bananna character, citrusy character near the end, and a lingering yeastiness.

M- full body and a strong carbonation. sticky yeastiness on the tongue

D- pretty solid, very smooth and drinkable, very flavorfull, but idk im missing a spark.

Photo of beerphilosopher
3.48/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured a semi-opaque medium gold color, almost like an apple cider. Thin, off-white head and spotty lacing in the glassware. The nose is surprisingly hoppy up front with wheat malt accents all the way through. Both herbal and fruity notes abound here - banana and sour citrus. The palate threw me for a loop - is this a weizenbock or is this an IPA? Perhaps it's both. By far, the most hop-dominant hefe-style beer I've ever sampled, but as assertive as the hops are here the beer yields to a more balanced wheat character that is true of a Bavarian weizen. The sweet malt and the floral hops play off of each other quite well here, making for a very complex and unusual palate. The mouth feel is rather thick, but off-set by the astringency of the hops leaving a dry finish with lingering herbal notes and spice. What a beer. A very unusual combination of flavors going on here ... like a highly hopped pale ale infused with a Bavarian Dunkel Hefe. This is a classification challenging beer all the way. All in all, it works for me.

If you can get your hands on this German-American gem, you won't be disappointed. Satisfy your desire for two beer at once!

Photo of Gueuzedude
4.1/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle Number 0668; Sampled August 2008
A fairly careful pour into my 25cl tulip glass still produces a three-finger thick, pale tan colored head. The head has a very fluffy texture to it and it leaves a nice amount of lacing on the sides of my glass. The beer is a hazy, light amber hue that still shows a hazy, orange tinged, gold color when held up to the light. The aroma is quite vibrantly spicy with hop notes, but is still quite obviously a Hefeweizen too. Aromas of tropical fruit, ripe apricot and a spicy herbal note from the hops are backed by significant clove phenols as well as a touch of fruity banana that lies just underneath. Other notes of lemon zest, pale-whole-grain cracker notes, and a fresh crushed wheat aroma. I really like the mix of spicy notes that come from both the Palisade hops and the fermentation character; huge woody pepper aromatics, perhaps a touch of sweet pickled ginger, a touch rosemary / menthol.

Fairly sweet tasting, but much of this is accentuated by the fruity hop character that provides notes of bergamot, apricot and lots of tangelo. The ample hop flavors that are packed into this beer also provide flavors of minty pine, light herbal notes and a significant, herbal leaning bitterness. In the flavor the hop character is a lot more noticeable than it was in the aroma; how this is really manifest is that the Weizen flavors are a bit muted under the hop character. Traditional Weizen notes of clove are certainly the most prominent, but there is also a nice fresh wheat character that both adds texture and flavor, a touch of tartness typical of the style can also be noticed and there is just a hint of banana that seems to be noticeable in the lingering finish. This is quite well carbonated, but the viscous body does a good job of hiding this fact; really though the ample carbonation does a good job of balancing out the medium-heft that this beer has, such that this remains fairly quaffable (the hop character also seems to help with this too). This can get a little hot in the finish at times with a mix of spicy phenolics and higher alcohols, but it doesn't seem to detract too much.

Quite tasty and I really like the vibrant hop character, despite it drowning out the yeast character a bit. This certainly retains the refreshing wheat character that is typical of a Hefeweizen; speaking of which, I really do see this as more of a strong Hefeweizen than a Weizenbock, as I usually associate that last with being darker and richer.

Photo of hooliganlife
4.05/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

served in a proper weiss glass. pours a clear amber, not as much head as a typical hefe. light banana flavor. semi sweet and is subtle enough to really enjoy. mouthfeel is my favorite aspect of this beer. i have had both this version and the schneider and this is hands down the winner. I would say overall, its sweeter and more defined.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Blurry banana with a tangerine tint. The aged ivory colored cap looks like it belongs on a Belgian ale. It has fantastic texture and is a lace generator of the highest order. Not only does the beer look great, but the bottle and label are incredibly classy as well. Eye candy all around.

The nose is great on first sniff. And second. And third. The beer smells like an especially estery Belgian pale ale that uses American hops. What a great concept! Specifics: fresh pineapple, banana, bubblegum and a dash of musky clove. It's still only late in the first quarter, but so far Brooklyn-Schneider is kicking Schneider-Brooklyner's ass from one sideline to the other.

If you're forced to choose only one, this version of Hopfen-Weisse is clearly superior. In fact, it's so superior that it makes me think that something happened to the Schneider-Brooklyner beer on the way to the party. Amarillo and Palisade hops are better choices than Hallertau, but that can't be it. Hans-Peter Drexler and Garrett Oliver are both talented brewers, so that can't be it either.

This is an amazingly fruity weizenbock. I prefer the darker versions of the style, but this one is damn good. As with all world-class beer of this style, it's dripping with complexity. Every one of the above fruits is present on the palate, along with spiced peaches and white pepper.

Alcohol is barely noticed, other than the fact that it provides a subtle warming sensation that starts in the stomach and gradually radiates out to the fingertips. The mouthfeel needs a Belgian brewer's touch for the next highest score to be a consideration. On a positive note, it's built for speed and is begging me to put the hammer down. Buckle up!

After the less than spectacular Schneider-Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse, little was expected from this Brooklyner-Schneider version. Wrong again and gladly so. This is lip smackingly delicious, gloriously drinkable beer that every BA owes it to himself or herself to acquire. Highly recommended.

Photo of aubuc1
4.33/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 25.4 oz bottle in to a goblet.

Pours a hazy light golden color with a thin but steady white head.

Smell is bursting out of very light banana and a crisp malt.

Taste is sharp banana and clove without being too much banana.

Nice carbonation creates a nice mouthfeel and an easy drinking wheat beer.

Not let down by high expectations.

Photo of Beertracker
4.47/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Brooklyner & Schneider Hopfen-Weisse pours up lively with a fluffy white head that sits craggily over the slightly hazy honey blonde-deep golden color. Very effervescent with excellent head retention! The fully ripened fruitiness (apricot, orange-banana, tropical fruit) and floral spiciness from the hops create a wonderfully inviting nose that compliments the wheatberry bread character nicely. There's some perceivable alcohol in the background. The grainy maltiness has just a touch of caramel sweetness and plenty of Munich toastiness that's marked by a moderate bitterness that brings about a firm, off-dry finish. The surreptitious alcohol warms the cheeks towards the bottom of the glass and makes this one nearly ethereal. This is a truly wonderful hoppy little weizenbock that delivers something for hop & malt lovers. Highly recommended. Here's to the "Beer Matadors" of Garrett Oliver & Hans-Peter Drexler and their fine collaboration.

Hopfen und Malz, Gott erhalt's!
PROST! Beertracker

*Taster's Note: Many thanks to kplynch for the bottle.

Photo of baos
4.38/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Corked bottle into Barilla spaghetti sauce jar.

A: Translucent amber-straw hue. Smaller head than I was expecting: 2 fingers that sticks around really well at about a half a finger. Very nice looking with plenty of lace.

S: Perfect! Candy-sugared-bananas-and-pink-bubblegum-yumminess!

T: Pink bubble gum-clove-banana with a nice hop presence. Raisins and dried apricot characteristics. I believe this is my first Weizenbock. I get clover-honey-comb bitter-sweetness with candy sugar hints as well. Very nice.

M: About as good as it gets, if it were a tad bit creamy-thicker I'd giver her a five.

D: This big bottle could easily be followed by another, but I think that would be it for me... A great beer!

Photo of WesWes
4.43/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a hazy gold color with a thick frothy white head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome. It has a dry and earthy pale and wheat malt scent along with some hefe yeast esters and a mild hop aroma. The taste is great also. It has a very smooth hefe flavor with some dry, fruity clove notes. The hop character really makes this beer. It stands out and grabs you; very nice. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate/good carbonation. This is a tremendous beer. I've been waiting for some time now to try it. Thanks goes out to the boys down at Knightly Spirits for the opportunity. Recommended!!

Photo of aerozeppl
4.47/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Much better than it was on tap. The bottle conditioning did this beer well.

A: Nice deep golden color. Pitch perfect 2 fingers of white head. Simply awesome looking in a weizen glass.

S: Interesting mix of wheat and hops. and then hops and flowers. Totally singular. The only this close is the DE version.

T: Bitter from the hops and sweetness from the wheat. Totally different than anything else out there. Little bit boozy as it warms but it works.

M: Very smooth with subtle carbonation.

D: On tap it was good in the bottle it was great.

Photo of Onibubba
4.22/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice dark golden, but surprisingly clear pour. Head remains frothy with good retention. Appearance is the first big difference I notice from this and the other version. This beer remains unclouded.

Smells of hoppy banana bread are pleasantly mild. Faint clovey / allspice notes. Hoppiness is more assertive in the taste, but never overpowering, allowing other aspects of the beer to assert themselves. Mouthfeel is good, and alcohol is negligable, making this a very manageable beer.

I think I prefer this to the Schneider version. It seems a much "cleaner" beer. If you liked the yeasty dark swirl generally lingering around by the second pour of the Schneider, you will not find that here. This is much more balanced, though less "unique" experience than the Schneider version.

Photo of HappyHourHero
4.65/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The american hops are evident in the aroma along with a bit of sugary bubble gum. A gentle pour produces a large tan head. Lot's of lace as the head fades slowly into the hazy peach colored beer. Sweet flavor, low in carbonation, with a hopy finish mixed with a good dose of alcohol that warms the stomach. This is one hearty beer. It's got the bubble gum sweetness of a weizen, but also a malty sweetness , alcohol, and the bite of a IIPA. Quite tasty no matter what you call it. I wonder if it will be brewed again...

Photo of Moxley
3.5/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured from a bomber into a small pilsner glass. Cloudy apricot with a foamy ½ inch head that stuck around to the end of the tasting. Sheet-like lacing.

S - Lots of wheat and apricot in the nose, with a slight floral sweetness

T - Standard wheat beer flavor up front, reminiscent of Duvel, but this beer has a hoppy bite on the finish.

M&D - Smooth, full-bodied wheat beer with a slightly sticky mouthcoating on the finish. Alcohol warmth in my chest towards the middle of the tasting.

Photo of clayrock81
4.1/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a weizen glass and received a dark gold, see thru body that gave a three-finger head thanks to massive carbonation and also left some sticky lace patches. An immense hop smell with heavy citric notes such as lemon, and orange peel along with some pepper and clove. I also picked up some mild apple, pear and caramel malts smells. The first thing that hit me was the malts, as a semi-sweet caramel malt that contained some stickiness struck the sides of my mouth. Also tasted a hop blast of citric notes with a drying backbite. Along the way I tasted some butterscotch, roasted malts and caramel/sour apple. I'd love to have this again but it is a little expensive.

Photo of bkilpatr
4.5/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 750 ml bottle into a weizen glass. 08/12/08. Bottle and label both look very elegant. Corked & caged, cork came out with a loud pop.

Pours a slightly cloudy pale golden orange color. A moderate pour produced a beautiful four finger soft beige head. The head dropped slowly to a thin layer and left some nice lacing. Looks well-carbonated, with a steady stream of rising bubbles. Aroma is amazing. Lots of citrus (orange, lemon), banana, wheat, clove, and fairly hoppy.

Taste is equally impressive. A generous amount of hops, along with plenty of wheat character. Lots of citrus flavor - orange, lemon, coriander. Some clove and pepper and other spice as well. A bit of banana flavor as it warms. It's like a hoppy wheat beer. Really tasty!

Feel is also very good. It has a medium body and is well-carbonated. Not too much, but enough to keep it very lively and bubbly. Fairly clean finish as well. Drinkability is good as well. The alcohol is well hidden and it really goes down nicely. I'd keep drinking this all night if I could.

This really is an excellent take on the style. I'm really digging these collaboration beers. My only gripe on this one is the price (I paid ~$13 for 750 ml). I definitely recommend this one.

Photo of MuenchenerKindl
3.9/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a huge c&c'd mag to a tall glass the liquid id a cloudy gold with good carbonation. The head was small a just 2 fingers, off white and left some lace. I was expecting a bit more but still quite good.

The smell was mild, some light fruit, banana, sweet apple and pear along with a bit of yeast.

The taste was good well refined but not quite as bold as I thought id should be. I was looking for a bit more spice and banana. What I got was a solid Weizenbock too be sure just not as pronounced and intense to truly stand out.

The mouthfeel was big and thick with ok carbonation.

The drinkability was good a fine offering and something the style lover should try. Prosit, MK

Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.38/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a hazy, orange-golden body with a tall, vigorous, sudsy, white head.

Smell: Notably spicy upfront with a strong, redolent scent of allspice, along with notes of clove and nutmeg. Plus, a spicy, tropical hop character. Sweetish wheat component. Tons of fruitiness coming ang going.

Taste: Malted wheat and barley blended with sweetened banana juice and chewing gum. Fair amount of spice and a generous addition of tropical fruit. Dash of peach schnapps. Growing wheat tanginess upon warming. Slight grassiness. A cereal sweetness that comes and goes, as does a tickle of acidity. Citrusy, spicy hop character with a medium bitterness. A finish that's all at once tangy, sweet, bitter, fruity... touch of pine resin on the very tail end of it. though I'm finding everything well balanced, just the right amount of sweet, malt, fruit, bitterness, spice flavor. The more you sit with it, the more the flavors evolve and rearrange themselves.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. Slight stickiness to the mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse is hoppy, packed to the brim with flavors and complexities, enjoyably aromatic, but it remains singularly drinkable. Plus, what a classy-looking bottle! In all honesty, I enjoyed this WAAAY more than I thought I would.

Photo of ballewblake
4.5/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from bottle to trusty Duvel glass.

Gold straw color with a huge pillowy white head. Yum, hops and spices on the nose. Sweet and carbonation on the initial taste. Spongy sea foam lacing down the glass. Some mild spices on the palette. Great brew, super easy to drink, lots of complex character, diggin this one.

Photo of aforbes10
3.23/5  rDev -22.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Brooklyn version. Fancified bottle purchased at City Wide in South Bend. Pours a tawny orange brown with a rocky/puffy white head that retains well. Smells of bananas and grassy hops, some yeasty orange odor too. Taste is a mix of warm bananas, sweet malt, bitter and peppery hops, and a tangy wheatiness. Hint of fusel alcohol on the finish. Less lemony than the german version, and also less balanced in its presentation. At the same time, it has more of a hefeweizen quality than its bunkmate, which is interesting. Still, im not sure I like it as much as the other. Love the idea nevertheless, and its certainly not even close to being a bad beer.

Photo of chilidog
4.22/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a bottle on vacation, Jungle Jims in cinci. Had to have for the big Brooklyns are hard for me to get.

It pours a hazy golden straw. Good head of soft white with lace and active carbonation.

The aroma is citric hop, banana and sour dough bread.

The taste of the bread-like citric hop hits the taste buds. A buttery smoothness of malts round out an overall well blended flavor. The mouth lingers with a citric hop dryness.

Overall, easy to drink and enjoy, a special summer-time indeed. Easy so, the 7.8% goes almost unnoticed.

Photo of Murchmac
3.85/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jw347 for the chance to try this brew.

This beer pours with a beautiful white head. Like the top of a sundae. Love the cascading colors of golden and dark wheat. Nice head throughout.

Smells like a good weizenbock should, only hoppier.

Tastes like a good weizenbock should, only hoppier.

Very sweet and tart aftertaste due to the hops.

This is exactly what this beer says. A hoppy weizenbock. The boys in bensonhurst would be proud.

Photo of midaszero
3.8/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Had in side by side tasting with the Schneider version http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/72/37774

A - Cloudy dark yellow pour with a little bit of white head

S - I get hops out of the nose and there is a slight sunscreen smell that popped up after a friend mentioned it

T - Yet again more hops didn't really pick up on any other flavors

M - Thick body with medium carbonation

D - Just ok I wouldn't really seek out another bottle but worth trying especially if you can do a side by side with the Schneider version

Photo of BeerFan
4.6/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

From notes when this was tapped in my basement last fall. I love hoppy beers. I love wheat beers. I was really looking forward to trying this one. Poured a cloudy orangey-gold with a beautiful white head into my Schneider-Brooklyner weisse glass (Thanks Yen157!). Smell and taste of wheat, yeast, banana, clove, citrus, pine. Yep - a hoppy wheat beer indeed. Excellent carbonation for this medium-bodied, easy drinking brew. Great collaboration between Brooklyn and Schneider. I do prefer the Brooklyn version much better. The hops are much more citrusy, while the Scheinder version finishes with a spicy hoppiness. I have tried the bottled version as well. Just as good as the original draft-only version, but much more expensive. $9.99/750ml bottle vs $60 for a sixtel.

Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse from Brooklyn Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 425 ratings.