Bière De Garde - Choc Beer Co. / Pete's Place

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Reviews: 44
Hads: 65
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 8.81%
Wants: 4
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
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Choc Beer Co. / Pete's Place visit their website
Oklahoma, United States

Style | ABV
Bière de Garde |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: jmbranum on 11-11-2007

25 IBU
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Reviews: 44 | Hads: 65
Photo of RodBurg
2.86/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Beertracker and thehand for bottles of this Choc brew. Pours a clear amber color with a thick white head. No lacing.

Weak smells of stale bread and malt, yeast and spice.

Watery mouthfeel produces little carbonation. Malty bread, a little spice and some weak plum notes are all I can gather from the taste.

I had heard great things about this and was pretty let down. Not very flavorful or complex. (411 characters)

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.03/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bomber without a freshness date but purchased not long ago at Goebel's in Wichita. Pours a slightly hazy copper color with a decent tan foam that fades pretty quick and leaves minimal lacing behind. Surprised at the poor head retention, especially considering the style.

Smell is cidery...like a caramel covered apple. That is about all I can get and has me wondering about a possible infection.

Taste has some nice maltiness to it, a bit caramely and toasty. Belgian yeast strain is prevalent, but still seems a bit cidery and sour (assuming there was no lacto added on purpose). That said, it is still strangely enjoyable and drinkable even with the off-flavors, I easily finished the bomber. Not bad, and I would like to try it on tap to see if it was meant to taste like this. (788 characters)

Photo of Ek0nomik
3.16/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured In: Snifter
Attained through a trade (Thanks Jonas!)

Appearance: The pour is a very cloudy cinnamon, saffron and amber color with a finger of head. The head retention is moderate. I can't see very far into the beer to see how effervescent it is. With every single pour I can see yeast just dumping out. It's actually pretty surprising how much yeast is in this bottle. Lace is for the most part non-existent.

Smell: The nose is full of yeast which is adding some pepper and a bit o' clove. Raisins and dark cherries come through as the beer warms up.

Taste: The tasting starts out with some bready malt, but the yeast quickly takes the beer in a different direction. More spices including pepper and clove come out. The fruit flavors come out at the back-end of the tasting bringing banana, raisins and cherries.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied, the carbonation was right on the button as soon as I cracked the bottle.

Drinkability: This was an interesting beer, though it's such a yeasty beer it makes it hard to drink. I mean, I don't mind yeast. I always finish the bottle, yeast included, but this was perhaps a bit too much. (1,135 characters)

Photo of Damian
3.25/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Drank from a 1 pint, 6 fluid ounces/22 fl oz bottle
Served in a tulip
Thanks to Beertracker for including this in our trade

The beer poured a crystal clear, deep, glowing, orangey-amber color with a one-finger, frothy, light tan head that deposited some sticky lacing along the glass.

The aroma was smooth and enticing. Malty rich, spicy and rather sweet smelling. Apple notes (apple cider) came through strong. As the beer warmed, some booziness appeared as well.

The taste however was rather thin a bit harsh. As with the aroma, the malts dominated. Rich and somewhat caramel-like up front. Slight metallic notes came through initially but these soon disappeared. As the beer moved along the palate, the smooth, maltiness of this brew seemed to fade. Quite spicy in the center with some tart apple notes. The spiciness intensified in the harsh, alcohol rich finish. A touch of hops were noticeable as well.

The mouthfeel was light and fluffy on the palate with a lively, sprightly carbonation.

Drinkability was severely hampered by the big alcohol bite on the finish.

This beer was a bit of a disappointment. I was expecting a much richer, smoother and more complex flavor profile from this brew. (1,204 characters)

Photo of paulthebeerguru
3.31/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From timbro81 as well.

22oz. brown bomber

A: poured into a snifter. It pours a beautiful amber color which leans more towards the red side. Good head retention and a decent amount of lacing.

S: A mix of sweet and sour. some sauerkraut, as well as some sweet breakfast malts. A hint of fruit and spices.

T: slight cabbage flavor. Very sweet malts. Very interesting biere de garde. Caramel and kind of fruity. A little too sweet for the style.

M: Very smooth and palate pleasing. Good carbonation level.

D: its drinkable, but not a good representation of style. Almost takes like a belgian blond. (600 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.35/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to a generous trader for sending this my way. Served in a wine glass with some rustic French-inspired soup courtesy of Jared.

Pours a very light copper color. It initially has a white head, but can't hold it at all. There is very, very little lacing. Even a goo, heavy swirl won't bring the head back. The nose has some subtle light malt and a bit of faint earthiness. There is a small quantity of dry caramel in there as well. The taste has some light earth and slight hop dryness along with some bread. Pretty basic, but okay. Light body with moderate carbonation. Drinks fairly well; this was enjoyable, though not terribly memorable. (645 characters)

Photo of mothman
3.35/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into founders snifter.

Pours 1/2 finger of white head. Decent retention with some lace. Color is a hazed brown hued gold.

Aroma: Reminds me a bit of a saison. Some lemon zest and cloves. Bready malts. A bit biscuity.

Taste: Floral hops. Bready/biscuity malts. Kind of buttery. Some grassy notes with spices. Lemon zest and cloves.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and bubbly. Medium bodied with a higher amount of carbonation. Ends dry.

Overall, this one reminded me a lot of a saison, but had some other flavors going on. Decent. I think this is better than the bells jazz series and they were all BdG. (600 characters)

Photo of dbossman
3.45/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Cloudy and deep orange/amber with a thin cream-colored film; lacing is okay

S: Lots of yeasty fruitiness: Lemon, pear, apricot, apple--especially apple cider--some boozy alcohol as well as some wood characteristics

T: A bit too sweet--fruity especially; apples and pears but it just doesn't quite enough of a malt backbone to support it--sweet and dry and a bit too much; in the end far to sweet

F: A bit thin when it comes down to it; nice carbonation up front

O: The beer smells great but the sweet apple cider in the flavors make it a bit tough to drink though it does get better as it warms (601 characters)

Photo of Cresant
3.5/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this 22 oz. brown bottle into a Tripel Karmeliet glass. No date. The body was rich golden colored with a modest head. The second pour was more opaque.

The smell was 7-Up and apple juice.

The taste was tangy and yeasty. Fruit, crisp apples. Biscuits and maybe nut bread. Salty. Interesting beer, lots of flavor going on here.

The mouthfeel was maybe a bit undercarbonated for the style. There was a light scrubbing zestiness and amedium bodied heft. (460 characters)

Photo of StaveHooks
3.54/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours up a clear amber. I finger off white head that sinks into a razor thin island.

S - Over ripened pears, sour apple, cider, toffee, spicy Belgian yeast.

T - Sour/tart fruit-apples, a moderate spiciness, Belgian yeast, a mild tart cider shows up more and more as it rests.

This beer is strange. The longer it sets the worse it gets. Even with different temperatures. It's great right off the pour. Weird. (416 characters)

Photo of hwwty4
3.58/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to jtrockchalk's cellar cleaning for this one.

Poured a 22oz bottle into my Dogfish Head snifter. This beer pours a slightly hazy toffee amber with a decent 2 inch white head that leaves just a slight bit of lacing down the sides of the glass. The aroma starts off as slightly grainy. Warms up with over ripe apples, pears, and almost a vinous character. Mild caramel and toffee notes. The flavor is very similar. Over ripe apples, yeasty biscuits, a bit of toast, and toffee. There is a slight bakers chocolate bitterness at the very tail of the flavor profile. The one thing that slightly bothers me, is a mild tartness that lingers in the middle/end of the profile. Why I do enjoy it and think it adds a whole level to it, I don't know if its supposed to be there. The mouthfeel is very dry. Finishes leaving the palate craving another sip. Over all this is a mid to upper mid range Biere de Garde. I'm glad to see a brewery in OK trying their had at traditional styles that don't get brewed enough. (1,011 characters)

Photo of kbutler1
3.58/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. Pours a hazy orange amber color with a slight off white head that collars arouns the glass. The aroma is very biscuity with some real nice highlights of belgian yeast with spice and banana. Some fruit notes as well. Medim mouthfeel. Sweet type flavor up front with some clove and babana belgian yeast flavors. Slight lingering bitter type flavors. No real lace to speak of. Alcohol is not real evident. Overall, pretty tasty. (433 characters)

Photo of orangesol
3.62/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another bottle busted out by Deuane.

A - Pours murky amber brown with a small half finger tall white head leaving light lace down the glass.

S - Smells of light spice, graham cracker caramel malt, candied sugar, and some dulled fruit like pears and apples. Not too bad so far.

T - Starts off with a bit of candied sugar sweetness quickly giving way to a mix of graham cracker caramel malt, dulled fruit, and some light spice. A bit too thin for my liking. The finish is a mix of sweetness and light fruitiness, lingering for a short period of time.

M - Medium body and flavor with moderate carbonation. A bit thin in the feel with some lingering sweetness in the finish.

O - I am not sure how old this one is but either way it was not too bad but it isn't something I would go seeking out. (794 characters)

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.65/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Acquired via trade from timbro81, so a big Thank You goes out to him. Poured from a 22oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep amber color with a large off-white head that fades quickly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of apples, caramelized malts, spices, some Belgian yeast and a touch of hops.

T: The taste has a lot going on and is malty and a little sour up front, with flavors of Belgian yeast, apples, caramel and some spice. There's a mild hops presence that provides some balance. The after-taste is spicy and slightly sweet.

M: Smooth and very crisp, medium body, medium carbonation, clean finish.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, decent kick, good representation of style, even though it may not be one of my favorites, this is a good, complex beer to relax with. (822 characters)

Photo of akorsak
3.73/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Deuane for sharing. A Bière De Garde from Oklahoma. What's this world coming to?

A: The ale is an amber brown color, dark dirty copper even, with a thin band of white head. Still translucent too.

S: Pleasantly spiced with candi sugars and biscuity malts sharing the spotlight. The malty base seems like a good foundation for the sugars and yeast.

T: Lighter fruits, a sweet presence, register immediately. Not a fruit beer, the flavors still come through quite nicely. Lightly toasted grains add more of a malty finish, a denser cousin to the saison. Lighter apples and pears are the primary fruit flavors that come out of the ale.

M: The mouthfeel is a little thin, too quick to fly away. The assertive malts and lighter fruit flavors are a nice reminder of the BdG style. (788 characters)

Photo of Sammy
3.77/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to TheHand. Unknown abv, it certainly is above 6% and could be in the high 7% plus. Large off-white foamy head on medium yellow body. Some lace. Malty, and lightly spicey aroma, pleasant. Very easy mouthfeel and drinkable. I have had better of the style, yet still a better than average beer. (299 characters)

Photo of EagleTalon
3.77/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Chimay goblet. Thin off white head and orange-amber hazy color. Aroma is fruity, spicy phenolic...well. Belgian. Flavor is a balanced blend of toasty malt, spiciness, fruit esters. mouthfeel is fizzy and light bodied. Boring finish. Overall, a good experience. (274 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.77/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As Bier de Garde style ales are difficult to assess and even more difficult to understand, Choc Biere de Garde is a nice beer but lacks the unique and indigenous flavors that make authentic Beglian Ales so characterful and inviting.

Biere de Garde pours a modestly hazy amber color and forms a froathy off white head of loosely knit bubbles. Retention falls to a thin sheet and a lace around the glass, but lacks in true Belgian lace. A great color, and the haze doesn't bother me, but the head character and retainage could be better.

Bready, biscuity, caramelly aromas emit from the glass with a fruity focus on raisons, cherries, and apples. Light must gives glimpse into the flavors of aged ales, but overall the Belgiany character is slight.

Flavors of caramel malt govern the sweetness while the bulk of the taste covers fruity esters and spicy alcohol, hops, and peppery notes. Earthy flavors of straw/grass and a delicate herbal presence bounce off of the apples, raisons, and cherry notes. Again, the beer is going in the right direction but the clean caramel taste and lack of complexity leaves the beer somewhat simplified.

The creamy up start has a quick transition to effervescent dryness, hoppy bite, and a fleeting caramel stickiness. The mouthfeel of the beer might be the attribute that best represents that of the style.

Overall, this beer is on the right path but it is way too one-dimentional and lacks the punch of estery/spicy balance, dry malt character, and aged must notes. Still, it's a clean beer and pleasant enough to drink.

Thanks BlueOkie! (1,576 characters)

Photo of Hopswagger
3.8/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

P: Murky copper body with floating specks. Looks like a swamp bog. A bountiful display of dense cream colored pillow top head. Great retention leaving behind rocky cliff ledges and a smooth, melted icecream like, sea of beauty.

S: Sweet prunes, toasted caramel malt, soapy grains, musty fabric covered furniture, wood rot and moss. Crystallized sugar and tannins. Aroma is really malt forward with subtle musty notes.

T/M: Taste follows the nose and introduces cherry alcohol, grapes, and strong brewed tea. Medium creamy body with delicate carbonation.

O: Super malted and nice sweet palate. I would like to age this and see where it goes. I would have liked to have more funk and musty notes but overall it a well done beer. (732 characters)

Photo of GPHarris
3.81/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

a - poured a two-fingers thick bubbly and light tan head into a willi becher that settled to a thin ring. this was almost a gusher due to bottle-conditioning. the body was a bright amber color.
s - yeasty, floral hops, some fruitiness.
t - floral hops, bready, green apples give it a hint of tartness.
m - bubbly and coating.
o - this bottle is approximately a 2011. (366 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.83/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a hazy, orangey body with a small white head.

Smell: Aroma of caramel malts, a handful of grains, a handful of field flowers, with a bright golden delicious apple fruitiness and a pinch of yeasty spice.

Taste: Light caramel maltiness with a bit of graininess. More of the fruity apple character from the nose. Light floral hoppiness with just a touch of bitterness. Peppery, tartish finish and then it's over.

Mouthfeel: Medium-thin body. Medium carbonation.

Drinkability: Not bad! It's a treat to finally try something from the great state of Oklahoma. (575 characters)

Photo of bashiba
3.88/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a nice slightly cloudy orange, with a light thin head.

Smell is light with a bit of yeast, sugar, and apricots.

Very sweet and fruity up front with some hints of molasses, toffee, apricot, and orange finishing with a musty and yeasty tartness.

Mouthfeel has a nice bit of bubbly zest with a clean dry finish.

Overall pretty good, if it were available in my area I would pick it up from time to time. (410 characters)

Photo of wcudwight
3.9/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to wolfman17 for the beer.
Amber in color with a quick burst of 1/2 inch head that recedes and holds a tight lace on top. Wet lace drips down the sides of the glass.
Burnt caramel in the aroma with some pepper spice.
Toasted caramel malts in the flavor with fruity Belgian yeast characteristics. Nice peppery finish. Kind of taste like what I'd imagine an American Amber Ale brewed with Belgian yeast would taste. I'm not real familier with the style but it is a tasty beer with some nice complexity.
Mouthfeel is medium with some pop from the the Belgian yeast and peppery flavors. The high carbonation on the pour does not show up in the mouthfeel.
Easy to drink. It's complex yet not very filling. Kind of bridges the gap from session beer to sipper.
Good beer that I recommend. (788 characters)

Photo of udubdawg
3.91/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bomber

pours bright orange. Initial glass is very clear; second glass is cloudier despite leaving most the yeast in the bottom of the bottle. Most of the head is fizzy and fades to a thin off-white cap quickly, however this small cap was very creamy and would remain until the bottom of the glass, leaving spotty lace in its wake. Really good-looking beer, and with a little better head retention I'd seriously contemplate a perfect "5" in appearance.

Nose is pretty good, not outstanding. At initial pop of the cap - well before pouring - I'm struck with a noticeable spicy apple aroma, almost like cider. After the pour I'm left with a light coriander, yeasty aroma above fruity sweetness - a little more citrus than the apple noted earlier. Just a bit of what I'd call floral.

Just a bit too sweet; could use a little more of the lemony tartness I detect in the finish. Caramel malt is everpresent as is sweet orchard fruit. Not that spicy - I suppose this is better than overspiced, but it could use a bit more spicy kick. Restrained sweetness in the finish.

Light body and smooth, carbonation a little lower than ideal but very easy drinking.
Can't say that I've had a lot of beer from Oklahoma, but perhaps I've been overlooking the state. This is not bad, not bad at all. I'll be picking this up again. (1,319 characters)

Photo of bump8628
3.92/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Hazed orange with two fingers of slightly off-white, soapy head.

Big fruit presence with apple peel, pear, and even some banana. Malt is warm bread crust with some graininess that fits in perfect with the style. Hops are mild, actually they're nearly absent save for a bitterness that almost balances the malt.

Nice, especially for the price. The fruit gets a little too big, even for the style. Paired well with some nutty Jarlsberg. (436 characters)

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Bière De Garde from Choc Beer Co. / Pete's Place
86 out of 100 based on 44 ratings.