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Natte - Brouwerij 't IJ

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71 Ratings
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Ratings: 71
Reviews: 38
rAvg: 3.53
pDev: 14.73%
Wants: 2
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij 't IJ visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
After the ‘Zatte’, this is the oldest beer from Brouwerij ‘t IJ. Natte is classed as a ‘dubbel’, a Belgian category of smooth, dark beers. Because we partly use dark malt, Natte has a reddish-brown colour and a smooth, roasted flavour with earthy tones of brown sugar, nuts and plums. Completed with slightly bitter hops, this is a nicely balanced beer and one of the brewery’s classics.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-19-2002)
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Photo of Filosoof
1.63/5  rDev -53.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Forget the beautiful mill, forget their cosy terrace and shop and then try to be objective: this is really mud beer.

L: nice head but disappearing, ugly, cloudy ice tea colour;
S: really interesting: I have never smellt such a foggy smell; can caramel be rotten, then this is what it would smell like;
T: very tart, a mixture of not very fresh food, brrrr.
M: I do my best, headache beer, carbonation is alright though;
O: people who gave a higher grade than C, must be influenced by the nice view of this beautiful brewery; the beer itself is not drinkable.

Note: this is my second bottle in a month; both I have thrown away after compelling myself to take ten pulls.

Filosoof, Oct 28, 2011
Photo of Absumaster
2.08/5  rDev -41.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

I heard some horror stories about 't IJ, that they had problems with their bottled beers, being infected. This is a story that is true I guess and I don't understand how people in the US can have good bottles, while in Holland we are left with the battery acid shit!

Appearance is allright, a brown murky beer with a nice creamy head. On the side of the bottle is some dried-up beer.

Smell is acidic with no other smells. This is definately an infection. My worst fear comes alive.

Taste is less acidic than the smell would suspect, but is infected. Some caramel and maltbitter is present, but actually this is useless, I am not going to like it!

Absumaster, Dec 08, 2006
Photo of paterlodie
2.35/5  rDev -33.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

No freshness dat readable. Litle and badlasting head and a dark amber foggy beer. Nose is lots of cinnamon, clove , combined with litle brett, sourness and nothing from malts IMO. Taste is harsh, phenolic bitter, overspiced majorly and overall empty. Emptyness and edgy taste make mouthfeel not to the most plesant expiriences. Drinkable but not my taste.

paterlodie, Nov 30, 2005
Photo of jophish17
2.5/5  rDev -29.2%

jophish17, Dec 24, 2011
Photo of MJR
2.63/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle date is stamped 09, 2002. A bit past it's prime...

Appearance: Pours a vibrant, reddish-orange with little clarity. A light tan head starts out small and stays that way. Nice retention and lacing.

Smell: Really strange aroma of grape and an acidic, sour note that reminds me of Orval...watered down Orval, that is.

Taste: Just as strange as the smell... Horse blanket? Farmhouse? Lots of acidic sourness, along with a small dose of fruit. It tries to balance itself with a hop bitterness, but falls short. Comes across as a watered down Orval, with a big dose of weirdness thrown in. Ends with a really faint smokey flavor. Thin in flavor. This isn't anything like a dubbel...

Mouthfeel: A bit watery on the palate with a soft, round mouthfeel. Finishes a bit on the dry side...

Drinkability: This is certainly not like any dubbel I've ever encountered. It's closer to a weak, Orval-clone that didn't quite go right. It's Belgian in character, but that doesn't neccessarily make for a good beer. I'm not sure what the brewer was going for here... On the other hand, this is from Amsterdamn, and they smoke a lot of interesting stuff there...

I would say it's age has diminished it, but I'd bet this stuff is just as bad (and strange) when fresh.

MJR, Apr 19, 2003
Photo of TheLongBeachBum
2.88/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Presentation: Classic Brouwerij ’t IJ 33cl [11.2 fl.oz] brown glass bottle with a white crown cap and the understated but highly recognizable diamond shaped label. Blue background with a white border and the familiar Ostrich with an egg at its feet, stands in the desert affront a silhouette of a Windmill. Listed at 6.5% Vol., Cat.S. Hard to see if the label Best before is even nicked in this case, looks clean. Bottle Conditioned.

Appearance: Deep ruddy amber brown, yet again with some small clumps of yeasty dregs which I tried carefully to avoid yet somehow with the small bottle I failed miserably, well that or the dregs were ‘in-situ’ even with a week in the fridge. Tan-beige head that looks good at first, even with the floaties, yet soon collapses. Looks "saggy". Do I have an old bottle I wonder!?

Nose: Pretty low key, took a while to decipher this one, woody dark fruits and a low key toasted malt odor. Low strength with some residual “sweaty sock” notes.

Taste: Dark fruits soaked in old wooden barrels, light yeasts and a hint of caramel in the front with some toffee in the finish. Dare I say, that the Natte, like the Zatte, is pretty much one-dimensional again.

Mouthfeel: Middle of the road, quite literally, for its in a place where you will most certainly not get run over, you’re right in between the traffic lanes but can the feel the pressure waves, like you know it could be more exciting, but isn’t somehow.

Drinkability: Wavering below average, I didn’t mind finishing the bottle, but only because I paid for it, LOL, yet I really didn’t want another one.

Overall: Cast mind back many years, I recall an immensely dark fruity Dubbel, with some chocolate, coconut and candy apples leaping from the Glass. Fast forward to 2205 - yet again, I find myself questioning if this is indeed the same brew which I drank at the ‘t IJ Proeflokaal many years ago, it seems flat, dead and unexciting from the bottle. Immensely simplistic and a second disappointing bottle from ‘t IJ, like the earlier Zatte, it tasted past its best, I wonder if the batch that was imported was exposed to high temperature or just left in crappy surroundings, sure tastes like it, because I know this is better. Tastes like a dry bitter brown ale rather than a Dubbel. OK, but not the best from ‘t IJ and this sample was definitely not worth the money.

After the Zatte…….I feel burned twice now.

USA ‘t IJ Drinkers – Caveat Emptor.

TheLongBeachBum, May 19, 2005
Photo of goodbyeohio
2.93/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

"what'ya drinkin there?" "a natte." "natty light?" "might as well be."

kudos to 't ij for presentation.. beautiful bottle with a nicely placed, shaped and conceived label. a drooling ostrich that just laid a blue egg? in the dutch desert? ok, loving it.

pour isn't too shabby.. murky yet bright reddish brown with a focus on red. light and inferior to most dubbels, but looks aren't everything, right?

nose is pure grape soda. fanta, baby. some metallic notes and milled grains round out the jagged aroma picnic here.

tastes very similar to the last offering i reviewed from this brewery (i believe it was a quad or strong dark, something jaars). similar except lacking any depth of sweet flavors. this beer comes off as watery for starters, leading into a smooth and sour malt overload. a real earthy dirt flavor comes on strong, and that metallic chord plays in the background. fizzy and finishes with a hint of malt becoming belgian dark fruits. leaves much to be desired and seems like a half assed effort, some kind of belgian-style second runnings.

i didn't hate this beer.. i drank it.. but considering its rarity and the fact that this is probably the european equivalent of widmer bros i'll not be seeking it out in the future. i'd be interested in trying a lighter style of beer from this brewery but that's about it.. probably the only way they can break from this big belgian let-down taste profile.

goodbyeohio, Oct 11, 2005
Photo of sfprint
2.98/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: Cloudy hazelnut brown with a beautiful creamy even head. Lots of rising carbonation.

S: Banana, which differs from the atypical hefeweizen or sometimes witbier banana. It actually smells like a real banana. Then there's a chemically alcoholic quality to it, almost reminds me of mosquito repellent with a slight yeast behind it.

T: Taste follows the mosquito repellent smell, but it's not as strong, though the dominating flavor. Somewhat tangy and sour.

M: Somewhat astringent and slightly mouthpuckering.

D: Weird flavor. I feel like the quality of the beer is nice, but its hard getting past the bug spray flavor.

sfprint, Feb 14, 2011
Photo of farundrpar
3/5  rDev -15%

farundrpar, Jan 08, 2012
Photo of schavuytje
3/5  rDev -15%

schavuytje, Mar 25, 2014
Photo of brinch
3/5  rDev -15%

brinch, Mar 16, 2012
Photo of maximum12
3/5  rDev -15%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Picked from the local bottle shop...when in Amsterdam, eh?

Pour is massively foaming, to the poinf that I am sniffing the cloudy, tan beer for possible badness. Nose is sweet and sweeter, gentle fruitiness, and a not quite right bit of something. Huh.

Natte ain't quite in the dubbel sweet spot. Sweeet - in fact, it tastes a half-ton like the Strruis I had from the brewery last night. I could pretty much clone that one. Sweet, light fruits, Belgiany yeasts. Add a slight touch of off-putting dankness and knock this down a bit. Would not want to go round after round with this bottle.

Pretty blah, not much more than average. The brewery seems to suffer from the same fruity mid-section in all its beers. Does not work as well here.

maximum12, Jun 30, 2013
Photo of rastaman
3.03/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

i found this to be really strange, acidic sour yeast character which can be good (i think), but just didn't work, something was a bit too much out of plcae, maybe it was the malt or the hops, but i was having a real hard time deciding what it was.

rastaman, Aug 05, 2002
Photo of wl0307
3.05/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

BB 20/07/09, served lightly chilled in Westmalle's broad-rimmed chalice.

A: not even until the cap is fully cracked up, the beer has already stormed out of the bottle and ends in the glass an extremely cloudy dark amber tea-ish hue, topped with a thin off-white dirty cap. Quite a mess - both in the glass and on the table!
S: astringently yeasty, full of rustic, funky and banana-oily notes that totally cloud the overall aroma (if it was meant to be something else, like a Dubbel?)... spicy hints like cloves and cardamom stay firmly underneath, "decorated" by random malts. Overall, the yeast sediments have messed up everything hence a pungent and sour nose.
T: quite a potent spicy foretaste mixed of licorice, cloves, hawthorn fruit and amber malts prevails, ensued by a weird, stinky-yeasty edge like banana oil with a medicinal touch that I can relate only to "ammonia" (the like from oxidised banana skins or grapefruit peels, if you know what I mean); luckily it does fade out as the beer breathes... Lightly bitter in the aftertaste, with a really powdery palate like clove's and star-anise's undertone plus the aroma of very old, dried tangerine peels.
M&D: effervescent on the texture but not OTT, while the body is just medium and manageable vis-à-vis the moderate flavour. Q: Is it my bad luck to always have IJ beers in such a messy-yeasty state, or is it my palate that can't really agree with what these yeasty monsters try to present? I really don't know. I think chilling in the fridge has certainly enlivened the dormant yeasts, hence my disappointment. Instead of being bothered to try the bottle version again, I'm still interested in the filtered version and maybe that has some nice story to tell...

wl0307, Feb 28, 2009
Photo of benfons
3.13/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: hazy, cola colour, creamy head

S: yeast, sweet bready malts, hints of cola, caramel and apple

T: grassy notes, hints of brown sugar, malts, and even citrus

M: medium body, slightly undercarbonated, not dry (as the name suggests)

O: not something I will try again, undercarbonated, too sweet, little character

benfons, Mar 06, 2014
Photo of Andreji
3.15/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Similar to the Struis, I had the natte on bottle rather than on tap.

The pour and taste just resembled what had been my immediately previous experience (struis is what I'm talkin 'bout) but just significantly less compelling. grains, sweets and hops are all about, but it just seems as though this one has been dumbed down a bit from the first one.

nothing to see here, folks, really. well, no. to be fair, one try is enough.

Andreji, Jun 30, 2005
Photo of Jeffo
3.15/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Got this at the bottle shop down the road.

From a bottle into a chalice.

APPEARANCE: Pours a huge 3+ finger off-white / tan head, thick with great retention. Maroon or sangria red in colour, opaque and lots of carbonation. Slowly fades to a thick fluffy foam cap. A good foam cap remains the entire time and leaves lots of lacing down the glass. While the colour is a bit average, the head is pretty nice.

SMELL: Toasted grainy malt with lots of yeasty overtones. Spicy yeast and touches of coriander. Some red berries in there as well. Very yeasty and spicy for a dubbel.

TASTE: Toasted grain again and quite yeasty as well. A bit more sour than average with some sour red berry notes. A little too sour and tart for my liking.

PALATE: Medium body and medium creamy on the palate. Goes down smooth with a crisp finish. No bite and a finishes nicely dry on the palate. Quite nice really.

OVERALL: A bit sour for sure. Not bad, though not overly enticing either. Was actually better when I had it slightly over chilled at a bar a while ago. Unfortunately, I haven't been too impressed with this brewery. This one is actually the best I've had so far. That said, don't think I'll go back to this one.

Jeffo, Sep 13, 2009
Photo of Beer-Ed
3.25/5  rDev -7.9%

Beer-Ed, Feb 18, 2014
Photo of GClarkage
3.25/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

07/07/07- Purchased at John's Marketplace in Portland, OR.

Presentation- 11.2oz bottle with a best by date on the cap. Apparently a month after it's prime. Poured into my St. Bernardus chalice.

Appearance- Deep ruby-brown in appearance. Full one inch head upon pour, a nice 1/4 inch remains. Mild patches of lace cling after the finish.

Smell- Light whiff of candied fruits...maybe a tad sour whiff? A bit of chocolaty malt as well.

Taste- Glad it doesn't have a sour taste like the last beer from this brewery I had today (Plzen). Very mild flavoring. Some dark fruits (plums and raisins) barely make themselves known. A bit of caramel malt sweetness, just enough to keep this beer interesting. Not really any hops in the mix.

Mouthfeel- Seems a bit watery with a medium carbonation level.

Drinkability- Standard Dubbel in my book. Nothing special here. It is fairly easy to drink though.

GClarkage, Jul 08, 2007
Photo of cb8282
3.25/5  rDev -7.9%

cb8282, Jun 07, 2013
Photo of patto1ro
3.33/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Red brown colour with little head. Toast, toffee, coriander, cream and dust aroma; sweetish/bitterish taste with coriander, cream and toast aromas; long bitter finish with chicory, burnt, cream and toffee aromas.

The house spiciness (from the yeast, I guess) doesn't sit so well with this style. Reasonable, but not exactly typical of this style. One of Ij´s less successful brews.

patto1ro, Jun 29, 2006
Photo of metter98
3.45/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

On-tap at Brouwerij 't Ij, Amsterdam, Netherlands

A: The beer is hazy amber in color. It poured with a half finger high beige head that died down, leaving a thin head covering the surface, a collar around the edge of the glass and some lacing down the sides.
S: Light aromas of yeast, sweet malts and spices are present in the smell.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and also has flavors of pale malts along with hints of candi sugar. A faint amount of sweetness is perceptible.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This isn't the easiest drinking dubbel. I think I would have liked this better if it tasted sweeter.

metter98, Apr 17, 2013
Photo of John
3.48/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Hazy brown color with yeasty floaters. Creamy, smooth tan head. Some toffee and caramel notes in the nose. Caramel and an unusual sour apple flavor. A nutty essence is also present and the yeast imparts a sort of date bread quality. Interesting interpretation of the dubbel style.

John, Jun 24, 2002
Photo of stcules
3.48/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dark ruby colour, beautiful foam, creamy-compact, beige in colour.
Smell of hop, hay, wither flower. Bread yeast. Zabaione? Lightly tart. Warm.
Something in the english ale direction.
Taste: fruity, soft, malty, maybe a little tart. Rosewater notes. A little too carbonated. Grape fuit. Biscuit. Unripe pine apple.
Quite complex.
Medium-light body, bitter aftertaste, with some tartness again, quite persistent.

stcules, Jan 06, 2004
Photo of apasternak
3.5/5  rDev -0.8%

apasternak, Dec 29, 2013
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Natte from Brouwerij 't IJ
81 out of 100 based on 71 ratings.