Nieuw Ligt Grand Cru Vintage 2005 - Stadsbrouwerij De Hemel

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35 Ratings
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Ratings: 35
Reviews: 31
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 17.27%
Wants: 1
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
English Barleywine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerBeing on 02-27-2007)
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Reviews by PapaEugene:
Photo of PapaEugene
3.05/5  rDev -15%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Last beer of the second beertasting with rvdoorn.

A: Poured into my Urthel glass. A nice amber color with no head. Small bubbly ring of foam.

S: Alcohol, alcohol and alcohol. After that dark fruits, cloves and caramel.

T: A huge alcohol afterburner that takes away the attention of the rest of the palette. Raisins, plums, malts and some spice. Comes close to a barley wine.

M: A medium body with a low/medium carbonation

D: I really wanted to like this beer.... great bottle design, great brewery and a true vintage beer, but the alcohol spoils it all. Maybe if stored another 5 years...

More User Reviews:
Photo of merlin48
3.5/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2 oz bottle served slightly chilled into a snifter produces a cloudy amber body with a scant beige head that is quickly gone with only a few flecks of lace. Tantalizing aroma is the highlight of the beer, with notes of exotic spices, honey, melon, plum, floral hops, and booze. Medium full body is thick and coating with low carbonation and alcohol warmth. Taste has a floral hop bitterness with honey and caramel malt sweetness. Melon and orange fruitiness remains almost hidden underneath as the hot alcohol surges to the front. Finishes with a hot and peppery alcohol zing. A decent cool weather sipper, perhaps, if you can stand the heat.

Photo of glid02
3.85/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Lee - thanks!

Pours a slightly hazy dark copper color with a half-finger off-white head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of muted caramel malts with hints of deeper chocolate malt aromas. Also present are large amounts of winter spices - nutmeg and brown-sugar-dusted orange peel.

Tastes similar to how it smells, although the spices aren't quite as intense. Sweet caramel malt flavors with mild amounts of toffee and butterscotch kick things off. Midway through the sip mild spices enter into things - again they serve more as a supporting cast member than in the aroma. The ending is mildly sweet.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's a bit on the thin side with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is good. I didn't have a problem finishing my glass and could have another.

Overall this was an interesting beer but I can't say that I was terribly impressed. I could see this being one of the few beers that benefits from serving at a warmer temperature, although I probably won't try that due to the high cost. Don't avoid but don't seek out.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.63/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a snifter)

A- This beer pours a dark amber-brown body that is clear with a matrix of tiny bubbles. There is a thick beige head that sticks to the glass and last and last for the full beer.

S- This beer has a sweet caramel malt smell with a note of sweet honey and a light cream or whole milk smell at the finish.

T- This beer has a dry toasted malt and cola flavor with a band-aid hint and honey comb flavor. There is a caramel malt flavor with a light dry spice finish of all spice and cinnamon. As the beer warms there is a light red apple skin note in the spice flavor.

M- This beer has a light mouthfeel with a soft heat that hits the back of the throat as the beer warms.

D- This beer has a nice flavor and smell of sweet malt with a bit of complexity. The spice flavors are a bit stale and dry but the alcohol heat is soft and warming. This beer has held up pretty well but I don't think the spices added anything.

Photo of AKBelgianBeast
4.33/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a nice clear amber orange with a skim but not thin white head. Nose is caramel and dark fruit with some spice. Taste is alot of dark fruit, some caramel and slight toffee with a good spiciness that doesnt over power. Fruitiness lingers on the palate after each taste. Thin in the mouth for the style, and it could be sweeter, despite the fact that it is already quite sweet. (This is "english barleywine" were talking about right?) Drinkability is pretty outstanding for the abv. Apparently this one has done pretty good with the couple years it has had on it. Really not a bad beer, excited to open another one in a couple more years. Get some.

Photo of Sammy
3.93/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2005 edition is around in places. Pours a bit medium brown, with many drops of lace.Smells like an aged barleywine. A little tingly on the tongue. Above average in volume of mouthfeel. Boozy warming, a little cognac, actually well integrated barleywine. Fairly good drinking, and like a great aged conditioned beer, to the very last drop.

Photo of cjgator3
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

2005 vintage

11.2 fl oz bottle dipped in red wax purchased at Big C in Winter Park for $10.99. Pours a dark brownish copper color with a small fizzy off white head that quickly dissapears. The aroma is sweet malt and caramel with a small trace of apple and a pretty evident alcohol presence. The taste has a nice smooth malty presence but is far too rough around the edges and can be quite boozy because of the 12% ABV. The medium bodied mouthfeel is lightly carbonated. Drinkability suffers because of the high ABV stands out far too much. Overall, this one definatley could use some more time to age. I don't think it is worth the steep price fresh, but I will be anxious to see how it ages.

Photo of beerthulhu
3.98/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Sampled 12/07. 12% abv.

A: Poured a moderate cranberry ice tea color with a quickly dissipating thin bubbly head.

S: The nose was clean with a light hints of cherry sourness, and ripe fruit.

T: The initial flavor was very tart and acidic with sour malt and apples. Visible carbonation was very light but the mouthful was lively from the sharp acidic nature. There were sour juice juice notes, some sour maltiness and a big spicy alcohol bite for a finish. Higher alcohol fusels were noticelable along with some spiciness (cinnamon). The beer was tart, acidic and overpowing alcohol at times distracting from the flavors. The first initial sips were hard to get down, but surprisingly as the beer warmed up and you progressed the multitude of layered complexity became more evident. There was some subtle underlying notes of sweet honey, fresh apples, and some fresh wildflowers coming through as well some holiday spices (all spice). The beer becomes much easier and enjoyable to drink once you get past the initial impression.

M: light in body, smooth, with a soft carbonation.

D: A very big, tart and acidic grand cru that drinks like a champ.

Photo of emerge077
3.38/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Reddish glowing fossilized amber, spotty ring of lace, glassy surface. Crystal clarity.

Spicy dried apple fruit leather aroma. Fruitcake or spice cookies. Despite the waxed bottle it seems a bit oxidized, but obviously that's expected, and even a positive trait in a vintage barleywine.

Flavors of sweet toffee, burly rich malts, orange peel, musty leather, cloying sweetness. Somewhat dry with low carbonation, lots of residual sugars in the aftertaste. Syrupy. Smooth with no hint of the abv, surprisingly. Knowing this would be hit or miss, it wasn't terrible, but is best shared. This was split 3 ways and that was plenty.

Photo of alcstradamus
2.42/5  rDev -32.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Pours a lifeless cola brown. Uhh.

The aroma is sweet caramel, dark fruit, floral hops, sweet sweet sweetness.

The flavor is cola, raisin, dandelion, sweet maltiness, more cola, some banana, and a final dose of cola.

The body is medium and flat for the most part, but not inappropriate for the style.

This one wasn't horrible, but there was just too much cola sweetness and combined with the body it was like drinking a flat can of Pepsi. I don't think I would drink this again if it was offered.

Photo of Yesac
2.3/5  rDev -35.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Almost no "hiss" when I opened the bottle. Here goes nothing.

A- Pours a murky ditch water brown. Zero head. A few clear bubbles surround the edges.

S- Candied sugar, caramel, Belgian yeast and a hint of alcohol. Faint overall.

T- Reminds me of a jack and coke thats been sitting in ice way to long and now a watered down mess. Faint alcohol and caramel and brown sugar.

M- Very thin, basically no carbonation.

D- A disaster overall. Couldn't finish.

Photo of JohnK17
3.75/5  rDev +4.5%

Photo of DaveHS
2.42/5  rDev -32.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Purchased from Toronado's bottle list. Poured into a 4oz tasting glass.

A-Pours a hazy auburn color with a thin ring of off white bubbles. No head.

S-Candied citrus skins, burnt sugar,sherry, a trace of oxidization,lemongrass.

T/M-Caramel sweetness at odds with citrus fruit acidity and booziness. There's a good beer in here somewhere, but ultimately, it suffers from being too boozy. The alcohol dries out the back palate and distracts from some of the more appealing aspects. I would've saved this another 2 years, but reviews of the '03 seem to suggest that it is oxidized. Full bodied with very little carbonation.

D- Drainpour. Couldn't finish more than one glass.

Photo of grub
4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

DrJay was nice enough to share this one. thanks jay!

11.2oz bottle topped with red wax.

pours light red, crystal clear, with a bit of very fine white head. a swirl brings it back, but it disappears again almost instantly. no lace.

aroma is nice. alcohol. bit of cherry. touch of lager or bock-like character too. bit of grain. tiny bit of tangerine sweetness.

taste is good. nice warming alcohol. low bitterness level. a bit of sherry-like character. light cherry. tangerine and orange. bready malt. nice earthy character too, almost but not quite smokey.

mouthfeel is good. medium carbonation level. medium body. super smooth.

drinkability is great. the alcohol is very present, but it's nice and mellow. mostly just lightly warming on the way down. very drinkable.

Photo of jdhilt
4.38/5  rDev +22%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Straight up pour gets a three finger head but leaves no lace. Cloudy amber color. Light carbonation and medium-heavy bodied. Raisin/fruity nose. Flavor is sweet raisin and some alcohol. Decent barleywine. Pricey - $12.87 for a 330ml bottle from Liquid Solutions Oregon City, Or.

Photo of John_M
4.1/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bought this at State Line a few weeks back. Finally got around to cracking it open.

The beer pours a toffee brown color, looking more like ice tea then beer. There is minimal head retention or lacing with this beer, which surprises me a bit. On the nose the beer smells pretty good. It is very sweet smelling, with an aroma of vanilla, chocolate and cherry. The flavors on the palate replicate the nose, except there is a hint of bitterness in the background which helps the beer's drinkability. I get almost a cotton candy flavor to this beer as it sits in the glass, and this beer is really pretty rich. Drinkability is fair, though with the sweetness and high abv., a little bit goes a long way. The beer has a medium bodied mouthfeel and is really not the least bit heavy or tiring to drink.

A solid beer from De Hemel, though probably one to be enjoyed in the winter before a crackling fire as opposed to late July in Baltimore.

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.43/5  rDev +23.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Nieuw Ligt Grand Cru 2005 Vintage

Appearance: Opens with a slight pssst of carbonation. Pours a hazy, murky brown. Surprisingly a quarter inch of head forms and dies away.

Smell: Aroma of fig, dark fruits, very much a barleywine. Some alcohol and notes of oak show up as well.

Taste: First off I must say this beer has held up VERY well. Delicious toffee like malt, paired well with an ageless English ale yeast with fruityness still viable. A touch of anise like spice, which the bottle suggests was picked in the garden of Eden (where the brewery supposedly stands, a tall claim). Some alcohol is there, understandably. Subtle notes of oak and woodsy tannins. Caramelized sugar and booze come out more as it warms.

Mouthfeel: Medium to full bodied. Carbonation is perfect, more than moderate, actually alot more than what I was expecting. Warming alcohol can be felt, and ultimately, this would be a perfect brew for colder months. Has an impressive, drying finish full of oaky mildy astringent tannins. Near perfect.

Overall: Very tasty and has stood the test of time. This beer makes me want to start collecting barleywines. Aged to perfection (and well kept during this time), I feel this beer can hold up for several more years. To say this has peaked would be unfair. As it is now, what a delight.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.3/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Another fine ale found at Marrikka's. With a few years of age under it, the beer should mellow out nicely. The pour gives a bright orange, rust color with slight carbonation and only a lace of head formation around the edges of the glass. Lots of legging on the glass promises to be very sweet and alcoholic. Aromas are very fruity, sweetly, and gives some sherry-like notes. Alcohol smells begin to take on caugh syrup proportions. Flavors stand out with very sweet, caramelly malts (English), and with fruitcake flavors of rum, dates, figs, dehydrated fruits-most notibly are candied cherries. Flavors of sharp alcohols prove to be overbearing. Texutre follow up with a fusal, caugh-syrup feel, that becomes far too much of a distraction to be enjoyable. Finishes with a long, slow, fusal - fruity burn. Maybe a few more years will tame the beer down some.

Photo of albern
3.38/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I was expecting better from this beer. Perhaps drinking 2005 vintage beer in 2008 things just deteriorate, starting with the head. This beer poured a thick syrupy, barely carbonated, reddish copper color. The smell is just too liquor/alcohol that overpowers the spices, fruits, and sweet malts. There is no head, zero I mean, no lacing, and it has a sticky sweetness on the glass. There are definite barely wine characteristics, but this beer is just too liquory with too much of a throaty burn to fully appreciate. The green apple, allspice, overall heavy fruit flavors (raisin, fig, plum) is certainly present, but the very high ABV is not masked whatsoever, in fact, it is too upfront and prominent. I'll enjoy my bottle, but I wouldn't go for a second if it were available. This is one of those beers that is overly pricey but does not live up to expectations. And yes, that silly red waxy crap on the neck and cap of the beer seems equally silly.

Photo of smi
4/5  rDev +11.4%

Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a cloudy brownish amber color with very little head (high ABV and 3 years of age); leaves a few dots of lace

Smell: Alcoholic blend of toffee malt and cardamom

Taste: Opens with a toffee flavor that adds a spicey dimension by mid-palate, with cardamom dominant, but some interesting fruity cantelope flavors as well; after the swallow, the fruit flavors predominate, with orange and cherry accents appearing as well; lingering woody sweetness on the finish, with a bit of earthy bitterness as well

Mouthfeel: Full body with low carbonation

Drinkability: A very pleasant barleywine but short of spectacular

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.58/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Well this certainly is an interesting bottle. I have to say the rubbery wax is annoying as all get out. It's all gummy and sticking to my fingers.

Pours a foggy orange brown with minimal creme head. Nose is really weird to me at first. It comes off as watered down apple juice. The next thing that comes to mind is dirty sea water. Or when sea water gets warm. Flavor starts off okay. Then all of the sudden whoa! Just imagine the really odd face I am making. There is too bright an aspect of this beer. Though it calms down a bit over time. I really find little complexity here beyond a small amount of fruit and a notcieable alcohol. There is a bit of spice that appears as well. Feel is nice, but it is moot at this point. This was nice to try, but it just isn't working for me. I have had several barelywines lately and this is well below the mark those have set.

Photo of DrJay
4.1/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured a clear, reddish orange and produced only a thin ring of foam with a fine skim of bubbles. Lacing was very fine with tiny, sticky bubbles clinging to the glass. The aroma was big on caramel with mellow alcohol and orange blossom, a little earthy spice, vinous grapes and a hint of vanilla. Bitterness was on the low side, letting caramel and toasty malt come forward. Tangerine and muted spice filled out the flavour, along with a hint of alcohol. The finish was mostly oranges and alcohol warmth. Medium bodied with well integrated carbonation, the fine bubbles were nearly successful in imparting a creamy texture. I thought this was a great sipper, very mellow given the abv.

Photo of mikeyv35
3.78/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled on 04/15/2009
11.2oz. bottle into Snifter glass
2005 Vintage

Pours a deep brown color w/ ruby red accents. Thin tan head w/ beautiful lacing - this brew has held up well over the last 4 years. Smell is of raisins, plums, dates, figs, and candied sugar. Taste is a nice malt fruitiness w/ a finish of medium hop bitterness and a medium amount of alcohol warmth. Not overwhelmingly sweet as would be expected by the smell. Clean on the mouthfeel. This is a definate sipper as ABV @ 12% is pretty present. Overall, this a nice brew but I am somewhat disappointed - would have actually preferred this to be a touch sweeter and more malt dominated - IMO it was a touch too hoppy for the style.

Photo of rvdoorn
2.93/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

The last beer of my beer drinking evening with PapaEugene. It slowly becomes a tradition that we end our sessions with a vintage beer. This time a beer from one of my favorite Dutch breweries. Poured this beer into a Rochefort glass. The beer pours an amber color with no head, which is not surprising for an almost 5 year old beer.

Smell: sweet caramel, brown sugar, clove and very strong alcohol

Taste: alcohol, alcohol and oh, wait, did I mention alcohol already? What a pity, it tastes like the brewer added pure laboratory ethanol during bottling. Besides the alcohol, there is some very well hidden taste of dark fruits, caramel malts and sharp spices.

Mouthfeel: Medium-low carbonation, which is surprisingly high for a vintage beer. Soft and somewhat medium-thin bodied.

Overall: Simply too alcohol, spoils everything. Like PapaEugene mentioned, maybe it needs another 5 years....

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Nieuw Ligt Grand Cru Vintage 2005 from Stadsbrouwerij De Hemel
82 out of 100 based on 35 ratings.