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Phil's Existential Alt (Brewer's Share) - Full Sail Brewery & Tasting Room & Pub

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Phil's Existential Alt (Brewer's Share)Phil's Existential Alt (Brewer's Share)

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BA SCORE
82
good

121 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 121
Reviews: 47
rAvg: 3.61
pDev: 13.57%
Wants: 3
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Full Sail Brewery & Tasting Room & Pub visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Altbier |  5.10% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
"According to Phil [Roche, brewer and beer developer], a generous amount of Munich and Vienna malts give this beer its copper color and toasty-caramel aroma. German noble hops provide complimentary bitterness and a clean, dry finish. The beer has been cold-conditioned for six weeks and goes down smooth."

43 IBU

Originally a pub-only beer, Re-released in April 2012 as part of the Brewer's Share series.

(Beer added by: RedDiamond on 10-24-2008)
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3.75/5  rDev +3.9%

Knapp85, Dec 29, 2013
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2.75/5  rDev -23.8%

juicebox, Dec 06, 2013
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4/5  rDev +10.8%

JimmyCop, Dec 01, 2013
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2.5/5  rDev -30.7%

Druss157, Nov 18, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -3%

Sazz9, Nov 07, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +3.9%

Fr0stb1te, Oct 19, 2013
Photo of Jadjunk
3.19/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

"This certifies that you are the rightful owner of one (1) Brewer's Share of the Initial Pub Offering of Full Sail Brewing Company's release: ALT a.k.a. Phil's Existential Alt, a copper=colored, cold-conditioned small batch beer concocted by our own Phil Roche, generously imbued with Munich and Vienna malts and German Noble hops." Brewed in the style of an Altbier, this one time brew is likely long gone from stores.

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle to a becker pint glass. Served north of 56º Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a golden-caramel had of a frothy cream consistency over a medium hazy caramel body. Retention is above average. Appearance is overall nice for the style. 3.75

(Smell) Aromas of sweet Munich and Vienna malts, yeast and grain esters and some mild buttery notes. Potency is medium. 3.5

(Taste) Lots of harsh grain, yeast funk and pure ethanol up front, light bready german malt sweetness in the back, faded and thin. A very dry, harsh finish without much bitterness flavor to account for it. This is not a very easy beer to drink, likely a decent recipe muddied with time. 3

(Mouthfeel) Medium-thick with a slick oiliness. Carbonation doesn't do much to remedy this beer, it's overall too flat for the style, and with the flavors coming off as strong and distorted as they currently are, a lack of carbonation could only be a bad thing. Body is medium for an Altbier, medium overall. 3

(Overall) This beer is far gone, always check your dates prior to purchasing. Drinkable, but barely so, time has given the yeast too much power over this style of usual simple and elegant balance, and what is left is a dry, grainy and boozy beverage that lacks flavor and balance. Probably fine at one time, be sure to pass this beer up if you see it in any bottle shop like I have. 3.25

Full Sail Brewery's
Brewer's Share: Phil's Existential Alt

Jadjunk, Sep 22, 2013
Photo of Daktyls
3.58/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a stange-like glass.
Enjoy-by date is 06-16-12. Yikes, picked this up only a few weeks ago, didn't noticed the date in the store.

Anyhow, on to the review:

A: Pours a dark copper-brown color with a one fingered of light tan head that dissipates to a fine lacing around the glass and on top of the beer.

S: Aroma is very muted, there's a slight amount of earthiness, a little nuttiness, but not a whole lot else.

T: There's some flavor! Toasted caramel notes abound with a light hoppiness and some nut- flavors on the finish with some hints of toffee and malt. Not much else that I can pick up on.

M: Light on the tongue with a mild amount of carbonation.

O: Overall, a decent beer, I think the aging of this particular one may not have been a good thing for it, but either way, still worth a try.

Daktyls, Sep 15, 2013
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3.25/5  rDev -10%

SGToliver, Aug 22, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -3%

brbrocc, Aug 18, 2013
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3/5  rDev -16.9%

laurenlo, Aug 04, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +3.9%

ummswimmin, Jul 27, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +3.9%

Kahlerbock, Jul 27, 2013
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3.38/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Enjoy by date: 08 2013 108

Dark copper body with a thick, creamy head riding atop; sticky rings of lacing. Very pleasant roasted malt aroma with hints of hazelnuts and dark caramel. Good grainy sweetness with a touch of esters in the background; fine hop bitterness, especially at the finish. Thin bodied; crisp and dry finish.

The beer starts out with promise, including the taste, but it soon loses much of its appeal. Overall, the malt flavors seem weaker with each mouthful and the body comes across more watery. One is left with a slightly over-bitter ale flavor. I hoped for better, and it's drinkable, but falls flat in the long run.

beergoot, Jul 24, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -3%

robwestcott, Jul 22, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +3.9%

Jame515, Jul 18, 2013
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3.88/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Transcribed from notes dtd Su, 14 July 2013

I had problems with my wireless internet, really with my home land line which I use for wireless internet and so the day became old-school pen-and-ink time as I really did not want to try and write my review through my phone. Needless to say, when my carrier tells me that they only have a skeleton staff on weekends and the problem will be fixed by 1900 h. on Monday, they are getting 86'd!

I am dubious about this being a retired limited release as Full Sail only recently arrived in PA and I bought this shortly thereafter.

From the bottle: "Independent Employee-Owned"; "Number 47-C 5143"; "Brewer's Share"; "This certifies that YOU are the rightful owner of ONE (1) Brewer's Share of the INITIAL PUB OFFERING of Full Sail Brewing Company's release: ALT a.k.a. PHIL'S EXISTENTIAL ALT, a copper-colored cold-conditioned small batch beer concocted by our own Phil Roche, generously imbued with Munich and Vienna malts and German Noble hops."; "Featured Brewer: Phil Roche Four times a year we hand the keys to our massively talented brewers and let them throw down. Whoever comes up with the most insanely delicious new brew gets to share it with the entire brew-geekosphere. It's something we call Brewer's Share. Now you're probably wondering what is so darn existential about Phil's Alt. According to Phil, 'Altbier is German and the only thing ancient Germans thought more about than their existence was brew. Early myths contain some 200 verses about the creation of the world, but twice that many about making brew!'"; "Phil's Charity: Phil has chosen to support Friends of the Children, a non-profit that provides Portland's most-at-risk children with intensive and long-term mentors. Visit www.friendsofthechildren.org".

My pour created two fingers of dense, foamy, light-tan head with good retention. Color was a deep-copper with NE-quality clarity. Nose had a lightly molasses-like sweetness. Mouthfeel was medium with a molasses-like flavor on the tongue. Definitely not malty, but not bitter, either. It landed somewhere in the middle ground of the two flavors. Finish definitely had the grassiness of "German Noble hops", which I read as Hallertau. Once more, I was glad that Full Sail has come to PA.

woodychandler, Jul 16, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +17.7%

pathman, Jul 15, 2013
Photo of hreb
3.06/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

22oz bottle best before 08 2013. Pours a beautiful deep red color in pint glass with a rapidly falling head. I can't detect any aroma at all. Flavor is pretty neutral as well, with a delicate graininess of raw barley. Very balanced, but not very flavorful. According to BA's notes this was brewed once in 2012. Maybe this bottle is just too old (though it's an alt, so aging ought to be permitted). Since it's before the best buy date I consider it fair game to review. Drinkable but unimpressive.

hreb, Jul 11, 2013
Photo of mjurney
4.05/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Appearance:
Deep amber color, looks clear. Lots of fine bubble rising up. Thick eggshell color head.

Aroma:
Ripe black cherries, caramel, toasted, spicy hops.

Taste:
Hop forward, mainly spicy and herbal, a little leafy. Deep caramel malts, toasted, bread crust. Some dark fruit note. Finish is bitter, dry and crisp. Medium bodied, smooth, dry.

Overall:
It's very good beer.

mjurney, Jul 07, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +17.7%

Molson2000, Jun 29, 2013
Photo of keithmurray
3.8/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Best by date of 08 2013 094, which I am not sure how to decipher, best guess is by March of 2013?

Appearance - crimson amber color with eggshell white head

Smell - caramel, honey, cherry

Taste - caramel, toasted malt, hint of cherry, hops

Mouthfeel - slight sweetness upfront, ample carbonation, heavier side of medium bodied, bold hop bitterness on the finish, dry on the finish as well

Overall - a good beer that is worthy of a re-visit

Price Point - $4.75/22 oz. bottle

keithmurray, Jun 29, 2013
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3.64/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured dark amber, copper with a tall head of off white foam that really didn't want to fall. Great retention and lacing like cloud patterns in the glass. Left a layer on top that finally fell off to a thick cap. Clear and bubbles up bombing from the bottom. Nice looking dark beer. Nose is herbal with caramel malt. Grainy with a little spice. Malt is sweet and full and offers a little toast. Taste is biscuit and burnt sugar. Grain and toffee sweetness alongside a sturdy bitter. Roasted malt, toast with an herbal, lingering dry finish. It's sticky, it's not quite chewy. Long on the palate but not only from bitterness. The grain tastes of earth and has it's own perfume. Drinks as clear as it looks and it even tastes dark.

This is a very amenable beer with a forthcoming and friendly malt character together with a stately hop bitter.

utopiajane, Jun 23, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -3%

erha2, Jun 20, 2013
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3.95/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a crystal-clear dark amber with a thinnish head. Some caramel in the nose with herbal noble hops being the strongest aroma here. Flavor is CLEAN: something that a lot of US brewers fail to do with alts. Nice caramel, biscuit malts with a little toast (I'd hope for a little less toast still). Nice herbal, grassy noble hop flavors with a sturdy bitterness and dryness in the end. Mouthfeel has some prickly carbonation. Not too sticky nor slick nor heavy. Overall, this isn't the best altbier I've had, but it's one of the very few and rare examples of a US microbrewery actually making an alt instead of labeling a messy, estery, toasty mess an "altbier." Seriously, I'm tired of US breweries making generic dark amber ales and calling them altbier.

goochpunch, Jun 20, 2013
Phil's Existential Alt (Brewer's Share) from Full Sail Brewery & Tasting Room & Pub
82 out of 100 based on 121 ratings.